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A 50-something VP of a company knows less about his IP's lore than a fucking kid
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Why, why it was bethesda who got fallout license. I would prefer it staying dead rather than seeing it in their hands.
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>>317605436
Yea no shit, that guy was some dudebro in college with a degree in management, he didn't spend all of his time playing video games
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>>317605489

They didn't know Troika or Fargo were betting on it
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>>317605005
Do ghouls need to eat to survive?
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>>317604915

Why would he get into that internet argument to begin with? He should be spending his time swimming in his gold coins pool/safe.
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>people acting like Pete Hines actually does anything with the writing
I mean, he's a retard, but come on.
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>making a big deal about

"""""gamers""""" really are dead
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>>317605693
>what is Van Buren

Is this guy actually retarded?
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>>317604915
>not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls
HE WAS RIGHT
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Todd is getting his rod sucked off by some high class hooker while OP is crying about nerd shit that most people won't notice.
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>>317605005
>>317605436
>>317605693

Reminder that Todd is responsible for this
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>>317605693
>degenerates
what?
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>>317605695
They do. That one trapped by supermutants in a RobCo basement in FNV ate radroachers and drank pipe water or some shit.
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>>317605005
>>317605436
>>317605693
>i don't give a fuck about video games
>i'd better do it for a living
Why? Or better yet,
>guy doesn't give a fuck about video games
>i'd better appoint him to be VP
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http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Vault-Tec_regional_HQ_terminals#Dr._Reid.27s_Terminal
>Walter in the warehouse just told me we received a massive shipment marked "Vault 111 - DO NOT OPEN". So, he opened it...and it was hundreds of gallons of liquid nitrogen! What could they possibly need that for?
>That's it! I can't work under a manager who's so oblivious to what's going on around him. These vaults are supposed to be a safe haven for these people, not a lab to run experiments on them. Davidson still doesn't see it...or he's just ignoring it. Either way, I'm putting in my two weeks in the morning.
This is literally as pre-war as it gets. Fuck you Bethdrones.
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>>317605005
>game has talking mutants and ghouls
>i guess thats a good enough excuse to just fuck with the lore

jesus christ, im not even a big lore fag but that just makes me mad.
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EMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL
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>>317605005
What a bitch out of a goddamn response. Fuck you Pete.

>>317605695
Without water cells can't function properly.
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>You humans made us now pay for your arrogance!
What did he mean by this?
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>>317606104
RIP
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>>317606424
This guy is just marketing, he admitted he was wrong and even claimed he was gonna tell people about the mistake.
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>>317606402

No matter how you look at, being a executive at a gaming company gives you less growth opportunity and more volatility than being an executive at an ordinary company

Its the kind of work you only would do if you like video games or if you absolutely can't land in that position in other companies

I guess he is the later
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>Fallout
>Twitter
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literally you guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYrRqMHQY7o
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Ever since Fallout 3, there have been many inconsistencies.

Like GECK, Supermutants, Moira getting Ghoulified instantly.

I don't really care. If you really did care on an autistic fanboy level, unofficial patches would take care of it.
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>>317605489
>Why
Why are Star Wars games being made by EA?
We live in a cruel world.
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>>317606580
>Why do you humans always fight?

This nigga is literally eating people and shot at me first.
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>>317606659
>wrote it twice
hmm
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>>317606787
>mods will fix it
Back to your chess club, Todd.
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this is also why its set on the East Coast, Bethesda doesn't give a fuck about fallout lore, just the setting, and even then, only their version of the setting.

hence why you are still using bottlecaps 200 years later when Fallout 2 had them already discarded only 75 years later.
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>>317606874

He looks to be a very insecure guy

He probably dressed all up just to take that pic
He even thought "hey maybe if I add this hat I will look stylish"

Poor faggot
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>>317606870
Wait I just realized they mean why don't I just surrender, never mind.
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>>317606870
Maybe it means "Why do you humans always fight BACK when I try to murder and eat you because I am a generic orc enemy"
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It's like the Star Treks fans demanding answers for some contradicting plot points from William Shatner.

Pete seemingly got a bit pissy but there's only so much shit you can take, like that guy calling him a degenerate, before you start going passive-aggressive. Twitter is always like that. Most likely there were more insults to which he didn't even respond.
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>>317605436
Look, understand that Zenimax, and by extension Bethesda, are one of the most corporate studios next to Ubisoft and EA. Literally everything is done by committee and as such the management is totally divorced from what goes on in their own company. Unfortunately it is not his job to know these things nor is he responsible for it. The whole point of design-by-committee is to spread the blame out when things go wrong.
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>>317604915

Same faggot that shit talked Evil Within's loading times while demo-ing it.
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>>317606870

it's just bethesda's shitty usage of the noble savage trope
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>>317607073
This. I don't really care either way, but it's pretty clear the people tweeting are just looking to be angry at any flaw.

There are of course flaws, no doubt. But they want him to basically kneel and suck them off going "S-so sorry for messing up Fallout!"
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>>317607187
>noble savage
I wonder if Todd Howard and Chris Metzen are friends.
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>>317607186
the guy tweeting at the exec?
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>>317604915
Can you people stay out of social media?
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>>317607073
Not even comparable, Shatner actually directed those films with said contradicting plot points. Hines is the VP and PR guy, i doubt he knows nor cares what the writers were doing.
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>>317607073
No, fuck off. They could have effortlessly hired somebody that was both qualified and knew the lore.
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>>317606708
I miss the Simpsons
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>>317607313

Pete Hines I mean is the faggot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_Ecyr1HmTA

Can't post a timestamp since I don't remember when but he does it.
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>>317607073
>>317607247
He literally asked for story feedback on twitter and he's surprised people are actually tweeting him flaws and plotholes. The guy is a moron.
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>>317604915
To be fair, it's possible. Perhaps the vault was running smoothly for a long time. But of course we have to consider that they were offering drugs to kids as well as they were being born.
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>>317605693
>degenerates get's
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>>317604915
thank you OP, I'll remember from now on. You don't have to remind me again.
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after reading pete hines twitter enough, he's a bigger hack than todd could dream of being

>dude console commands are EVIL xD
>dude VPNs wtf is those
>dude i'm not stupid ur stupid
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>>317606953
Good god that is dark
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Whoever is seriously upset over this just needs to hang themselves now.

OP is a colossal faggot. Get the fuck over it.
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>People actually liked FO4
I torrented it and even then I still felt like it was a fucking waste of my time.
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>>317607619
It's possible, except the entries all reference and allude to pre war.

So saying "Oh no it doesn't say when it was written" is the worst cop out ever. It doesn't explicitly date the events but it does describe the setting of them. And that setting is pre-war.
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>>317607898

Hi Pete.
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>>317604915
>Not interested in discussing the world
How much of a retard this developer is
The world is the game
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>>317607775
Todd just a better peter molyneux. Better at lying and better at being above the nonsese that comes with getting caught for lying.

But this has nothing to do with Bethseda's terrible design-by-committee game development. This is just their corporate PR guy being a kek.
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>>317607915
Obviously that was him just guessing since he says afterwards that he didn't write it and doesn't know the context. He could have said that with a better tone though so the babbies wouldn't get their feels hurt.
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Might not seem like an issue to some, but it's in fact a major issue in the videogames industry and has been for far too long. People who have no interest or experience what so ever in videogames actually creating videogames.
This is why when we expect progress in a games series in terms of features we instead get regression and "streamlining". They have no clue what they're doing and only sell games based on their names and heritage.
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>>317608065
see>>317607158
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>>317604915
FALLOUTGATE
SPREAD THE TRUTH
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>>317605693
>degenerate

For fucks sake.
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...Why do people in creative fields bother with Twitter?

If there's one thing these shitty threads have taught me, it's that if you're working on something you intend people to care about, and you're on Twitter, it's pretty much inevitable you'll end up in an argument with some asshole and become better known for stirring up Twitter drama than your work.

I'm not even defending Bethesda here or anything, but fuck Twitter. Seriously.
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>>317606708
>calls it a xylophone
>not made of wood
nerd pls

if it were made of bone it would be an exossophone
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>>317607517
dude couldnt handle the brain experiment minigame.

why the fuck would he talk shit about his own companies product?

Are they that damn tsundere with the mooners?
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>>317608279

Because in some companies, you are "motivated" to get a twitter
In some positions its a soft-requirement even
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>>317608157
He has nothing to do with writing nor developing the game. Hes the VP and head of public relations.

Corporate hierarchy means you can distance yourself from nearly everything in your company and still do your job effectively.
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>>317608103

I have far more sympathy with Molyneux than with Todd. Molyneux is just an over-enthusiastic ideas guy who gets genuinely sad when he realises he's let people down. Todd doesn't give a fuck, he just wants to drum up as much hype as possible.
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>>317604915
>tldr fuck the games lore
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>>317606659

Fuck off Aaron
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I imagine how Todd must be on meetings
he must be the annoying guy who wants everything done his way

He kinda looks like an assertive douchebag
So I kinda don't blame the guy, he gotta work under a douchebag
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>>317605436

You think a VP makes the damn game? He's a VP, he has employees that do that. They probably don't want him over their shoulder anyway. Sure, FO4 has a lot of inconsistencies, I assume they have like 20 people writing all this crap, it can be hard to keep all of them on the same page.
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>>317608143
I help run a small, free game. We get about 200 unique players a week on our server.

I have to carefully watch what I say. I can't promise things that won't happen, or say things that are wrong.

Best I figure is there's absolutely no repercussions for bethesda no matter what he says.
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>>317608279
He asked for feedback, its kind of his job as head of PR.

I dont think he's a "creative guy".
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>>317608573
But he could of handled it better on my opinion. Addressing it as an issue instead of inadvertently saying he doesn't care.
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>>317605693

Didn't Troika collapse into the abyss? And who the fuck are Fargo?

Look, Bethesda aren't great, but at least we don't have a yearly Fallout CoD clone. I'll take it.
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It's easy to make those kind of mistakes. You have to ask yourself "Does this detract from my experience?" if you answer yes, then I think you have a problem.
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>>317608157
>as it's any different in any other field
You should try talking to someone who designs cars.
Passion gets you nowhere, no one gives a fuck about that tiny little detail, only the numbers matter.
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>>317608103
Molyneux is fine. He overhypes games, yes, but not Todd tier lying, mate.
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>I assume they have like 20 people writing all this crap, it can be hard to keep all of them on the same page.

That's everything wrong with AAA development. No focus and no communication between management and creative teams.
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More devs should act like Kamiya desu
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>>317608735
I want to try your game.
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>>317608990
Konami is one known horrendously for lack of communication. One team won't be allowed to see what the other is doing and thus games come out fucked
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>>317608103
to be fair, as shite as Fallout 4, its still a better product than the entirety of the Fable line.
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>>317608279
>corporate management
>creative field

He's got nothing to do with games development.
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>>317609038
based
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>>317609038
He's like one of those teenage celebrities trying to stay relevant.
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>>317608968
whatever happened with the winner of that cube game on smartphones?
the winner was supposed to be the god king of their new game but I haven't heard jack shit about it
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I get the feeling that todd thinks he's some kind of iconoclast maverick who can do whatever he wants to the lores of the franchises he works on because he's just sooo much more creative and innovative than the original writers and he definitely knows how it SHOULD have been.
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>>317609038
I'm pretty sure he wouldn't block somebody who pointed out illogicality in his game.
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>>317609038
Like Capcom hasn't been getting rightful shade for years. Please Hideki
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>>317609361
I guess people lauding New Vegas over his own work must infuriate him.
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>>317609038
>You didn't rike my game? You can't complain, you are a mere customer!
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They rushed FO4 because ESO bombed hard. This signals the obsolence of Bethesda in the coming years as they are struggling with funds right now. You think they are swimming in gold? They just blew 10 years worth of profits into ESO.
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>>317609417
he hasn't even fucking worked at Capcom since the gamecube era.
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>>317609361
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>>317609480
> ESO
> Bethesda
Pick one you dumb nigger
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>>317609038

>y-youre not my boss-senpai
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>>317609038
Same logic that got those nips their ass kicked in ww2
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>>317609570
look here fantard and accept the truth Bethesda is going down

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bethesda_Softworks_video_games
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Online
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>>317609480
I don't know why they thought anyone would play an MMO version of a single player game, where the draw is exploration (almost solely now as the franchise is so flanderized and watered down to basically be fucking nothing)
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>>317609801
Good job, moron. The wikipedia you link to prove you wrong. Bethesda merely published ESO, and didn't develop it.
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>>317609480
ESO was made by Zenimax. Bethesda may be owned by Zenimax on paper but Bethesda is still it's own developer and publisher.

Whether Zenimax will attempt to recuperate losses by taking profit from FO4; I can't say 'cause I don't know how the Zenimax/Bethesda relationship works internally.
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>>317609801
They were only the publisher you fucktard.
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>>317609038
Seems pretty childish.
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>>317605693
>troika

open world RPG-heavy 3D Arcanum when
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>There are pre-war chests all over the place with pipe weapons in

Christ, at least make it so they look like Stens or something that would plausibly exist pre-war.
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>>317609269
i don't think he cares about relevancy, he's made his money making games, its already in his bank, he's done it all already
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>>317605005
Why? Why not just go "whoops" or "that may have slipped us" or "I'll ask one of the writers" or not answer at all?

What is it with "important" video game people that feel the need to shit all over their audience? I legit don't get it.
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>>317610014
>>317610026

Don't you get it, that's worse. Developers don't invest money, they get paid for making games. If a game bombs, "oh well, too bad to the investors and probably going to lay off some of us". Producers are the ones who invested money in the game.
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>>317610371
Because they know there are retards who will buy the next game no matter what.
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>>317610450
Ok kid
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>>317608862
>At least it isn't putrid shit
>be grateful for your fresh shit, instead
Shit is shit, and all you are doing is enabling companies like these to do whatever the fuck they want with the IPs
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>>317608862
fargo is brian fargo the producer of the original fallout,he runs the company inexile entertainment now
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>>317610074
blocked
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>>317610314
You think people stop wanting to remain relevant once they make a bit of money?
See Arnold for a great example.
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>>317610791

>PornHub

One of the most based websites out there. They have tons of great statistics and actually take their job seriously.
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>>317606708
In the wide shot where did all those papers on the desk magically disappear to only to repear later when we cut back to homer.

Are we supposed to believe they are magical papers?

Boy I hope someone got fired for that blunder.
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I think it's kind of autistic to go and attack this guy on twitter over this, but at the same time if you're in a position like his, you ought to have a vested interest in your products, and that should hold true for a good number of executive positions. If you're just there to run a company and don't give a shit about what you produce, it comes off as extremely disingenuous when people try to approach you and you know jackshit about your company's service and products. It's like Reggie during that Nintendo tournament earlier this year. He could have at least taken some small amount of time to learn the basic controls, but he didn't and he played Smash Bros worse than a 5 year old. People make him out to be some ebin gamer, but he proved he's no different than the other suits out there. It's like showing up to a debate and not knowing what the fuck you're debating.
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>>317610302
I find random skeletons laying around in lived spaces far more annoying.
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>>317609081
>>>/vg/123153276

Welcome to Spess. It's free and open source. Play where you like.
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>>317610946
I'd say xhamster is slightly better. Tubegalore for the better searching/linking sites.
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>>317606870
Why would super mutants become kamikazes, they've always fought in close or ranged combat, not this pussy suicide shit
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>>317607187
It's more an example of their reinterpretation of them as Radiation Orcs.
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>>317611267
Xhamster has a shit interface with no easy way to download their videos. Their recommended videos are shit too.
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>>317610946
>removes videos because muh copyright
>based

normie get out

xxxbunker is best

that or fuq
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>>317610791

Pornhub releases the best statistics
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>another thread full of people getting mad at twitter posts
remember when we used to talk about video games? goobergate ruined this board
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>>317607898
On its own, it's not a big deal. It's a single entry in a single terminal in a single vault that's not connected to the main story (or any quest, if I remember correctly) at all.

The reason it gets talked about a lot and made to feel like more than it is is because it's an easy poster-child for a larger issue - which is that Bethesda bought up an IP because it was A) a setting they found appealing and could work with for open-world, and B) had some credibility with consumers, already, and they could use that as launch pad for interest. They clearly had no love for the lore of the game or anything 1 and 2 did. They used as much canon as they wanted just to set up FO3 and beyond, but at best neglected the finer details and at worst openly discarded them in favor of a quick joke or "something cool we wanted to do."

When Bethesda fucks up its own lore in each subsequent Elder Scrolls game, that's one thing; it's their own story. But when they start cutting up something some other team made, it feels worse.
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>>317611267
>>317611413

>not following their twitter and blogs

They release a great amount of statistics which are very fun to read, they're up to date with many current events, and they can take a joke. They're also awfully mature about the porn industry.
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>>317611731
I guess you should head back to reddit then
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>NMA autists getting BTFO
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>>317611934
>goobergater telling others to go to reddit
lmao nice one kiddo
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>>317612018
Does the word gamergate trigger you or something?
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>>317610450
>Argument completely changes when proven wrong

I genuinely hope you seek mental health care.
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>>317611308

And since there is a finite number of super mutans, one would think they would take care of themselves.
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>>317612095
>jimmyjubbler gets upset when someone makes fun of his ebin flamewar
>goobyjizzler chooses to shit up /v/ instead of going over to reddit where his bullshit is encouraged
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>>317612260
What the fuck?
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>>317612095
yes, but that doesn't matter since most of you are at 4+4chan now, how does it feel that your home is now ours shitlord?
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>>317612260
Why are you using funny words in place of GamerGate?
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>>317610450
Bethesda didn't actually publish it, their parent company ZeniMax did. Being the owners of Bethesda, of course they would want to attach the name to an Elder Scrolls product. The only negative for Bethesda in this case is a slight hit to their reputation among consumers.
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>>317612260
Are those the sounds of your trans gf's cock slamming your throat or something?
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>>317611731
Been like this since a very long time now, really all over popular 4chan boards as well. The old 4chan has been dead for so long I can barely remember what it was like.
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>>317612337
>gets BTFO
>can only reply with WTF?!?!?!?
my work here is done, come back when you have something to offer
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>>317612260
We are talking about developers here. You might have a point if it was some e-celeb shit. You can fuck off now and hide this thread if it upsets you so much.
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>>317605005
How's everyone enjoying Copout 4?
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>>317612260
Where do you think you are? This isn't tumblr or some fucking safe place. 4chan always has and will always be full of racist, selfish, putrid ass holes.
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>>317612432
Maybe you should cease to exist just like your 4chan "Golden Days"

Ive been browsing since 2006 and its the exact same dont delude yourself buddy.
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>>317612462
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>>317608424
He said played like a xylophone not that it was a xylophone
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>>317611731
>factually wrong since e-ecelebs and meta were before GG
>"muh GG boogeyman" mentioned out of nowhere
>being so butthurt at them you have to avoid using their name and still obsess over them 1 year later
Noose yourself.
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>>317612578
>since 2006
so you're part of the cancer? good to know
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>>317612392
>implying people go there
That's funny
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>>317612578
>since 2006
He's only been here for 9 years
You poor babe
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So is the game even worth a pirate? Ive been craving a new fps lately.
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>>317612392
What are you even talking about? I never took part in some gay twitter war. I just think you look assblasted when you type goobergate.
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>Jet appears in vault loot lists and shit in Fallout 3
>Bethesda removes it
>Jet is said to be a prewar drug in Fallout 4
>w-who cares about realism
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>>317612517
hella fr*ckin epic!!! *fist bump*
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Remember - this is the future you chose.
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>>317612736
They should. You're kind arent welcome here anymore. We may still be assholes, but we're at least INCLUSIVE assholes. Get bent, scrub.
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>>317604915
Pete Hines is a fagtron but it's pretty obvious you've never played Fallout 2 if you really believe Myron would never pretend he created Jet just so he could take credit for it.
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>>317611731
>claiming GG out of nowhere
>muh GG boogeywoogeyman

take your agenda and jump off a bridge subhuman nigger
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>>317612820
good post
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>>317608424
shut the fuck up you fucking pretentious music nerd. Go back to marching band faggot
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>>317612820
YOU. REDDIT. NOW. THAT SHIT IS UNACCEPTABLE
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>>317608143
>He could have said that with a better tone though so the babbies wouldn't get their feels hurt.
Of course he should've, he's a PR guy, that is literally his fucking job.
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>>317612814
Think of Jet as being a generic term applied to both actual Meth in the Pre-War period, and also "Meta-Meth" developed by Myron or whatever Post War.

It's basically Jet to the people encountering it, even though Post War Jet, is not your Daddy's Jet.

For one it's made with (undoubtedly Radioactive) cowshit from two headed, mutant cows.
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>>317612932
make me fagatron, here at 4chan we dont play by the "rules"..... now get out of here before i make you regret it NIGGER
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>>317612578
Yeah I don't remember constant 500post threads everything some tranyfeminisnt makes a comment on twitter or anyone every saying something stupid.
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>>317604915
>Game by another company, with writers all too different to the originals, have to write a million of these stories to fill in terminals
>"Hurr muh continuity!!"
You faggots sure amount to nothing.

Seriously folks, you got a game by Bethesda and you actually care about the writing? not amount of blood in your stool arguments is going to change the fact you are retarded. You are not different from all the fuckers who want gun control
"Hurr some retard kill himself with a gun, it is the gun's fault"
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>>317612729
>>317612745
I wasnt bragging and Im genuinely depressed that you two are somehow proud you have been here longer. I dont know how Ive spent almost a decade coming here.
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>>317612820
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>>317612932
>SH*T
umm I'm preeetty sure you're not allowed to say that here.... ?
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>>317608279
I agree 100%. Too often companies let audiences molest their creative processes. Not to mention that this kid who called the VP out is just grabbing for attention. If criticism was shifted back to e-mails and phone calls, the issue would have to be actually significant for someone to spend the time calling it out.
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>>317613151
youre making a big mistake buddy, we 4chan boys are evil racist putrid assh*les you dont wanna mess with us
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>>317612932
>>317613151
By taking him seriously you all expose yourselves more newfaggy than he will ever be
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jesus I feel terrible, please stop insulting Fallout 4 directly to this kind man
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You'd think people would be more annoyed by the CANS OF GAS that are scattered all over boston
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>>317613268
>posting a reaction pic = taking him seriously
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>>317609415
He's blocked people for far less
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>>317605005
It's fantasy, ain't gotta explain shit.
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>>317605005
WHY is it so hard for them just to admit it was a mistake and their continuity girl didn't catch it?
pic very related, every time you expect something to make sense in-game, these guys come out of the woodwork with their "IT'S FANTASY SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP"
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>>317611308
my guess is without the master the newer generations are each getting a little more insane in the membrane.

That and the east coast strain of FEV is different from the west coast...

But seriously where the fuck is all the FEV coming from? Did west-tek just make enough of it that there's going to be super mutants being made till someone (probably a supermutant) blows up the sun?
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Hey, girls. Want to see how to pinpoint all the misogynists? Check this out *clears throat*

Gamer Gate.
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>>317611786
>When Bethesda fucks up its own lore in each subsequent Elder Scrolls game, that's one thing; it's their own story. But when they start cutting up something some other team made, it feels worse.


..that is a very good point.. someone should let them know this. I would but I don't have a twitter account and have no reason to get one.
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>>317613030
Being a PR guy doesn't mean your requirement is to be as PC as possible. You could very well call everyone faggots and that would get you on top of Reddit for a few days. Extreme example.

But as long as he isn't told by higher ups he doesn't need to change anything.
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>>317613345
>get trolled
>NO WAY YOU DIDN'T TROLL ME
whatever helps you sleep at night kiddo
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>>317613480
my fallout lore knowledge isn't the best, but didn't FEV come from one source? Mariposa, right?
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To be fair, this dude has to sit on twitter and deal with retarded autistic spergs sperging out on him daily.

I'd be bitter and give no shits too.
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>>317608849
could have
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>>317613536
I am like le triggered anon
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>>317613612
Well you know what I meant, his job is to say things that keep consumers happy one way or the other, whether he does that by being nice to them or by cultivating a "brutally honest" image or whatever.
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>>317613480
There's no fucking reason for FEV to be in the East.
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>>317613702

It'd be fine if he were a complete dick, but instead he's playing both sides of it. One or the other.
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Is there any explanation in the game at all for how the children of atom survives living in that crater? Fucking hell it's so stupid
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>>317610098
after cyberpunk 2077 which has official been announced for release in never ever
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>>317614014

Bethesda is basically the Michael Bay of RPGs nowadays.
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>>317614014
by atom's will
checkmate atheists
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Feels like NMA in here.
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>bawww my game isn't how it should beee ;____;
bitch more, bitch boys. Bethesda can do whatever they want and it's canon. Your silly "jet" argument is over, it is now a pre-war drug.
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so the children of atom at the Crater of Atom, the fucks up with that
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>>317609313
>whatever happened with the winner of that cube game
absolutely nothing. They stiffed him entirely, even going so far as to invite him to their offices so Molyneux could shake his hand, look him in the eye and lie to his fucking face.


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-02-11-the-god-who-peter-molyneux-forgot
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>>317614014
I don't even get why they're there at all, to point you in the direction of Virgil?
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>>317613857
you seem to be
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>>317613692
Nah there was a supply in vault 82 in the DC metro area, that seems to be the east coast source of super mutants but it ran out a bit before the events in FO3, however it all goes back to West-tek (may or may not have been an enclave shell company like Poseidon energy I'm sketchy on that bit of lore) which was more or less the creators of the FEV.

there also may be an FEV source in the commonwealth but I haven't gone exploring and hunting for it yet.
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>>317614303

Molyneux is the perfect spokesman for the potential of games. He otherwise needs to be kept far away from videogame development.

He popped my idealism cherry with Project Ego/Fable. I don't even know what the Carter Brothers are doing now.
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>>317614351
I guess players are supposed to be like WOAH THIS IS SO CRAZY PEOPLE LIVING HERE XD BETHESDA=GODLY STORYTELLERS but it's just really really really fucking retarded
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>>317613982
Vault-tec experiment shenanigans?
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>>317606708
since when is a rated M for people 17 or older something for children?
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>>317608573
>Chairman only deals with CEO
>CEO only deals with manager
>Manager has to heard 7 other idiots

Always the middle man who gets fucked, I swear.
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>>317614563

That's kinda the point of the middle man.
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>>317610039
this sounds reasonable enough.
Where is the problem?
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>>317611246
Goddamnit Deadpool, you know you aren't supposed to post outside the /vg/ thread.
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>>317614640
Not deadpool, don't blame him.
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>>317605436
>I'll pass it along. I didn't write it, I don't know the context
That's actually a pretty good response considering the others.
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>>317612409
Zenimax IS Bethesda. They may own the Bethesda studio, but essentially, Zenimax is Bethesda, with many other studios under their wing.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZeniMax_Media
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>>317606454
It's not like the lore was bullet proof.
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>>317614375
I know that the Institute has/had some due to poking around trying to find the serum for Virgil, but how they got it isn't explained either
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>>317614690
DON'T LIE TO ME, I KNOW ITS YOU!

who are you then, so i can metagrudge you
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>>317614875
__________no
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>>317606659
>>317606953
>>317608620
he is a gigantic faggot. you should see his twitter
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>>317614014
I've been wondering this myself.

Is there ever any explanation anywhere as to why they even exist? They don't seem to have any purpose in the game other then saying "yeah that virgil guy is over there" and there's no real explanation of how they exist.

My assumption is that they have a unique genetic strain or something that makes them practically immune to radiation. So there was probably a group of them many years ago who can survive out in the wasteland and they just settled out there and had kids with each other, and the genetic strain gets passed down. They probably assumed they were immune for a reason and took it as a sign of a god so they created their little cult to some made up god.

Not sure how they survive with such little food or water around though. Something else i'm curious about is does the institute know they exist? Virgil knows they exist at least. If their cause of radiation immunity is in their blood like i think it might be, then it's possible if you take some of their blood you can make yourself immune too. If the institute knew these people existed why would they have taken some blood by now? Virgil at least wouldn't have to transform into a super mutant.
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>>317604915
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>>317605436
>>317605693
>harassing some exec who has little to no involvement with actual game dev with minor story inconsistencies
>exec actually takes the time to respond to people and is even-toned despite being insulted

Is anyone else kind of embarrassed?
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>>317605005
isn't billy more of an Indiana Jones easter egg?
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>>317615075
maybe they're in the process of being ghoul-ified.
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>>317614836
Yes and no. Bethesda is still very much its own company with its own shares on the stock market.
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>>317608103
>Molyneux gets called out on his bullshit
>But others like Todd Howard or Tim Schafer don't, even though they're actually worse in some cases
Okay.
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>>317615075
you put in more thought then they did
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>>317605693
>Troika could still be alive making Vampire and Fallout games.
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>>317615243
Thinking leads to overthinking. Let the fans make up their back story, it'll be more immersive for them.
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>>317615263
How? They didn't die because they weren't making vampire and fallout games.
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>>317615075
I think it's explained that since its in the Glowing Sea the Institute didn't even bother sending someone out to find Virgil, so they wouldn't find the children of plot holes
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>>317606402
Money and power goes to those with most ambition and greed.
Not to those who care or have talent.
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>>317609224
Eat a dick.
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>>317615075
really far fetched, and it's just bethesda not giving a shit
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>>317611401
>no easy way to download their videos.

They're one of the easiest. Their video player is entirely flash based and videos will still play without it so all you have to do is disable flash and right click to download.
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>>317604915
Tle lore in Beth games don't matter. Fucking deal with it, nerds
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>>317615364
That make no sense at all.

>Institute heavily relies on Synths to do their above ground shit
>Synths are immune to radiation, at least the generation 1 and 2s are as they have no biological components, and we can CLEARLY see generation 1s still in use through-out the game.
>Glowing Sea is bathed in radiation

The real reason they don't is because they think Virgil is dead
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>>317615075
....so what you're saying is due to a genetic fluke their blood is potentially for all intents and purposes rad-x or even rad away......

I smell caps, and not just a few, a whole fuckload of them.
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>>317615619
>nerds
I <b>am</b> a nerd actually, thank you very much. A nerd is somebody smart, an intellectual, someone who thinks and considers. Thanks for the compliment (:
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>>317604915
Jet is a prewar chemical that Myron just used. He didn't invent shit.
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>>317615737
Nerd is someone who is a misogynist.
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>>317615737
Top tier bait
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>>317615772
>Edison didn't invent electricity, God did
shut up
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>>317615772
doesn't change the fact that postwar jet is basically jenkem...
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>>317604915
Don' t you get it? Fallout became a normie game.

Normies don' t ask those kind of questions. They just find this shit funny.

Makes ya think, right?
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I don't even care about a minor lore detail, but they really fucked up this game with stupid dialogue and quests.
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>>317615871
>jenkem slows time
brb gonna go make some jenkem
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>>317616050
what if I really hate newspapers though
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>>317616208
It leads you to the same dialogue path, even if hate or support newspaper
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