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What the fuck Square Enix.
>>317485668
>game for kids gets censored on a console for kids
Why is it such a big deal? It doesn't affect the gameplay in any way, why spam threads about it?
Again?
Damn Squeenix, get of this franchises back.
>Hey we have this well done indian outfit design
>but we should replace it with generic white people dressed as the kind of people who kille the indians en masse to avoid being seen as racist.
>>317485668
What changed? They put a hat on her and removed trashy tattoos?
>>317485668
The one on the left looks like an entirely different model to the one in the middle - not just "censored", but the proportions of the model, hair, tatoos, they're all changed.
What's the source of each model?
3DS is a console for children. Learn Japanese if stuff like this upsets you.
They did it again
the absolute madmen
>>317485960
If you don't give a shit, why do you post?
>>317486424
The left and middle are different characters. The character in the middle is the one on the right.
>>317486492
>And then I have to buy a 2nd 3DS
No fuck you
>>317485960
>>317486492
Japan must be a pretty sweet place, if the children there are apparently so much more mature than the ones elsewhere.
>>317486559
So what happens when the character on the left wears it?
>>317485668
Thanks Nintendo.
It's ok if you do it.
>>317485668
Who with an opinion and preferences of worth does this matter to?
The censorship isn't that she less naked.
It's that they've changed the design from being an Indian to being a Cowboy.
>>317486816
oooooh oh no!
fucking weebs do something else with your lives
>tfw playing learned japanese
>tfw playing all the games years before ameriburger
>tfw get all dlc and uncensored just like the creators intended
怒るな、このバカガイ人
>Defeat an Indian Boss
>Get the Cowboy Job
That's kind of fucked up.
>>317486934
Thanks for another spot on my bingo card.
this change has no negative impact on gameplay
this is editing not censorship
>>317486665
They aren't more mature, but they are statistically less prone to have sex and make babies when they're adults, so inhibiting sexual urges is really a no-go.
>>317485668
is this just an USA thing or is EU affected as well?
we don't have a homeland built on the blood of it's original residents so it should be fine
>>317485668
do we really need a second fucking thread?
>>317485767
>>317485668
>Oh no! I can't fap to my loli game anymore!
>>317487324
Somebody post censorship bingo
>>317485668
Nintendo is publishing it
Nintendo is at fault again
>>317487506
>loli
No matter what, they're always a loli.
So do you think any of the classes in Dragon Quest 7 3DS will get redesigned?
>>317486642
Stop crying then
>>317487483
>This thread was posted before the one you linked
you should kys anon
>>317487739
Can't you tell? This is clearly a loli.
>>317486784
>Nintendo in charge of telling square to censor their games.
Nigga you went full retard
Will NoE save us Eurofags from this faggotry?
>any localization changes are censorship
Look, I don't like censorship, but this is getting fucking ridiculous.
Pic related is a Ranma 1/2 game. Does it count as "censorship"? Or just a dumbass localization choice? Replacing sushi items with burgers?
>>317485668
>no longer an indian
>now you get a cowboy outfit
>people are bitching
You're just looking for reasons to blow the censor horn, aren't you?
NoA does it again.
Kill yourself Alison you worthless whore.
>>317488460
I mean, they'd have to censor so damn much of FExSMT that it'd just be pointless to buy the Western version.
>>317488460
NoA won't censor #FE, they'll just raise the ages from 17 -> 18
>>317488080
>replacing sushi with burgers
CENSORSHIP
CENSORSHIP
I'll go get the censorship brigade, the game is literally ruined because NoA took away my right to eat sushi instead of shitty burgers
Does this kind of stuff happen on Non-Nintendo platforms?
>>317485668
I wonder if they changed it because it was sexually appealing or because it is possibly offensive to indians
I'm not even mad because I wont buy it
Wish 3DS emulation was real though so I could just patch then english script with the Japanese game
>>317488812
I wish I still had that source from a guy who was localizing the game in a team. He got fired apparently
>>317488812
if they hid tharja ass in awakening then they will censor it
>>317488948
Do you always have time to wallow in your ignorance?
>>317488812
They did that for BD and STILL censored it
>>317489351
fired over what?
>>317489630
revealing a lot on how the localization process worked while in the middle of translating Fire Emblem Fates
I'm trying to look for it
Welcome to the future.
>>317488460
The one with the Triforce Heroes meme is sad because it's going to date the game just so someone could have a dumbass reference. Why can't people just leave the world of the game separate from any of our pop culture shit?
This shit is getting sad. We should organize a petition or something that asks Nintendo to stop with this censorship bullshit. It's probably too late for any games currently being localized but if we get enough support they might stop doing this kind of thing in the future. At the very least we'd have some to point to and say "see, this is why you're failing" when this game and Xenoblade inevitably bomb.
Honest question, why do any of you guys care if one detail gets changed? Does it really affect the game for you that much? Does it truly stray so far from the original concept that you can't play it anymore?Seriously, this isn't bait. I just don't get it.
>>317489932
>>317489802
Fates is fucked and I hate it.
>>317490075
They won't stop even with a petition.
>>317489802
What game is this?
>>317490091
The job of localization teams should be to get the game over as close to its original release as possible. They aren't in charge of changing content or anything beyond simply converting dialogue from japanese to english in a reasonable manner. It is not a 3rd parties duty to change things just because they find them questionable.
>>317490174
It's worth a try, surely? Unless your Stand lets you see the future?
>>317489932
>>317490132
We need to spam the shit out of them with complaints. They're a fairly small company and I guarantee would not be able to ignore the pressure.
>>317486220
good point. videogame based on the holocaust and they have a nice starving jew outfit, but no thats no PC lets dress him as a nazi....
>>317490174
Maybe not, but again if the petition were to get a bunch of signatures we could use it as evidence that Nintendo have themselves to blame when these games fail. As it stands they'll likely think the market just "isn't interested" and that it's no fault of their own.
>>317485668
Call them racist against Native Americans. Something like they rather have cowboys than a race of people who were stripped of their land.
Get enough people to believe and they will change their decision.
>>317490350
>>317490328
What would such a petition ask for, very simply?
'request that the localisation process for games on Nintendo consoles is changed or revised'? If we start getting our complaints down coherently this should happen
>>317490607
I didn't say we should do a petition.
The word censored has lost literally all meaning
>>317487614
That's wrong tho
>>317490350
Then it would be bullying and have them cry out to the internet about it. You literally can't do anything about this shit, and they know it. Complain? You're sexist. Try and ask them about why they're changing dialogue? You're oppressive thoughts and ideals don't belong in 2015.
They won't even come to the table and discuss this, look at the changes to XBCX. They couldn't just say "Oh, we didn't like the bust slider and it's terrible, terrible effect on the poor psyche of women in video games. So we needed to remove it and make everyone equal" When clearly 1. I can't imagine too many women giving a shit about the game, and 2. Breasts, crazily enough, come in various sizes in the world.
>>317490428
I'd much rather have a Nazi uniform desu. Those outfits were cool.
>>317486942
>ガイ人
>>317490720
the original creator back in japan didnt want to change it or they would have changed it in the jap version too with a patch
some amerifats did so it wouldnt offend them so its clear censorship
>>317490720
They're removing lines and renaming the fanatical group 'Testament' from XBCX. Yes, that's censoring.
>>317490898
thats besides the point lol
It was the safest thing to do to prevent libs from freaking out about MUH CULTURAL APPROPRIATION.
>>317487956
Of course. But they'll never truly be as loli as the loliest of them all.
>>317490607
it's already been tried
https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-do-not-censor-fire-emblem-fates-for-it-s-worldwide-release
>>317490328
Okay, but it's not like they are changing anything with the gameplay or story. It's one minor thing to avoid controversy here. A localization team SHOULD have the choice to be able to choose what will fit the audience and market where they are located, as well as be able to avoid controversy with subjects like underage shit and "cultural appropriation."
Believe me, I get that it's completely fucking stupid and that people are too sensitive. It's just that people have to understand that they are still a business that has to sell, and they will do anything they can to be able to make it sell well. It boils down to do you want the game or not at all.
>>317487956
Nah that's more like petite woman.
>>317490821
No it isn't, Nintendo already confirmed they are publishing it
>>317489502
Do you always have time to defend this sickening sushi to burger censorship?
>>317491324
>flat chests
>woman
Fuck off, pedophile.
>>317490607
I would just say something like "We are against Nintendo's policy of censorship and want it to end. We wish to see the company adopt a straight translation model with as few changes made to content as possible." We'd have to make it clear we're opposed to all censorship and not just cherrypick the sexual stuff.
What the fuck is the point of this change? If it was a Nazi uniform or something, I would understand. Is being Native American something to be ashamed of or something? If anything the original costume would spread awareness and maybe make people interested in Native Americans.
>>317489502
Do you always have time to be a fucking edgelord?
>>317485668
Being this new, and not knowing the first was also censored. Why be surprised?
>>317491439
I'm pretty sure this is bait, but look up "tumblr cultural appropriation" and you will see why.
>>317491439
As much as I think this change is stupid you're reason for wanting to keep the native american outfit is just as retarded
>>317491439
Oh boy, do you live under a stone or something? It#s called cultural appropriation, it's the SJW in thing. Colleges are banning Halloween costumes because of it. Culture war NAU!
>>317490870
they probably didn't want you to make an oppai loli.
which is stupid but it's the only reason I can think of
>>317487956
How the fuck does those legs work?
That's not censorship you stupid neckbeards, that's god damn localization. Do you consider changing rice balls to hamburgers censorship too?
>>317491771
How DON'T those legs work?
>>317486642
IT IS THE CURRENT YEAR
INSTALL CFW
>>317491550
>>317491647
>>317491654
Is adding a cowboy hat to a character from a Japanese video game developer not also cultural appropriation? Your arguments make no sense. Seems like cultural appropriation is just hiding what makes a certain culture unique. So what? Is everyone just supposed to wear t-shirts and jeans now? Should the characters only dress in Japanese outfits? Arent all the knight costumes and other shit from the first game also cultural appropriation? This is fucking stupid and you are all stupid for defending it.
>>317491550
>>317491654
Censoring native outfits because "muh innocent Indians dey dindu nuffin!" has been around long before tumblr.
>>317491960
they're both just as bad
>>317491771
I wish to rub my dick on them.
>>317491229
What controversy are they changing?
They had a minority character - a character from a setting that looked more native american than not. Instead, they replaced said character with a white character with a generic cowboy outfit. You know, the same kinda cowboys who were probably off killing bison by the hundreds to starve indians?
>>317492302
I am not defending this bullshit, I think it's stupid. I am just explaining why it's habenning.
>>317491654
Cultural appropriation has for ages essentially been the culture of both Americans but also germanic folks like Scandinavians and what have you.
Most of the common trader, seafaring, but also travelling and new settling populations thrived on cultural appropriation.
To look down on cultural appropriation, and by extension their cultures at large, is incredibly intolerant.
My ancestors have appropriated culture far and wide from all around the globe. That was their pride.
>>317491229
>>317492302
Why not read before you post? I said that I know it's bullshit. It's really fucking stupid and allowing some extremely sensitive people to dictate what goes into games is gross.
But, thinking you are a revolutionary of censorship or something is also that fucking stupid.
If you were a company, would you cater to the PC generation or /v/?
>>317492763
>If you were a company, would you cater to the PC generation or /v/?
I'd cater to whoever bought my games, which may not be either audience but I would probably assume /v/ is closer to said audience than not.
>>317492412
Have you been on tumblr before? This shit would blow up.
>>317492479
You have figured out the SJW paradox, where they claim to be for diversity and tolerance, while being incredibly intolerant and racist. You will get a free one week subscription to Redditchan, to meet up with other shitlords that know THE TRUTH.
>>317491162
That's a petition for a single game that's likely already had significant amounts of translation work done. I'm talking about a petition asking that all future games that haven't started being localized yet be left uncensored. By making it about all future games rather than just one or two we can cast a wider net for support.
>>317492763
>If you were a company, would you cater to the PC generation or /v/?
I would stay true to the original creators intentions. If sensitive people dont like it, they can either not play it or not choose that costume, or even make their own fucking game.
>>317491960
>Do you consider changing rice balls to hamburgers censorship too?
I don't care what it is because either way its fucking stupid. People always say Japan is full of xenophobes but at least they're willing to embrace cultures other than their own into their media. Meanwhile America is hell bent on eradicating anything they see as "too Japanese".
>>317489932
who is this?
>>317492925
Tumblr is an irrelevant echochamber that has no impact on actual game sales.
>>317485668
Is this what you call censorship? Looks more like a design chage to me.
>>317493256
Does localisation for Aksys. Probably talking about Zero Escape 3...
>>317492989
You can make one. You already have the Fire Emblem petition having the right ideas of current localization and censoring leading to alienating their older audiences
Personally I think boycotting them would be better than a petition but I gave up on nintendo of america and rather just not buy their badly localized games
>>317489802
That's disgusting
>he still hasn't learned moon
no censorship for me
>>317493310
But yet all of /v/ saying they pirate everything doesn't either, right?
>>317485668
Who the fuck cares
I forgot BD was even "censored" by the time I beat the game
>>317493576
I don't support Nintendo in the first place due to their wonderful take on region locking.
>>317493532
What's wrong with it?
>>317493641
this isn't a nintendo game
>>317485668
>tfw /v/ will be the only place to flip out about censorship so hard they'll boycott a game over it
>tfw the rest of the world is free from this kind of autism
The great thing about the current PC fad is that it became huge out of nowhere and history has shown that such movements tend to fizzle out just as quickly as they escalate. We're already starting to see the pushback and within a few years this entire movement will just be an embarrassing blip in our rear view mirror. In the meantime I'll be avoiding any games that include censorship, including this one.
>>317491960
>indians don't come from America
burgerclap education
>mfw americlaps call genocide "thanksgiving"
>>317493778
>they'll boycott a game over it
You seem to think the people screaming boycott are in the majority. It's a small group of autists.
>>317485668
NOA
O
A
Hah! Mustn't give Native Americans any representation.
>>317493736
It's exclusive to a Nintendo console, and their handling the translation and localization of it. So how is it not?
>>317493543
Okay but why not both? Boycott the game, and when Nintendo wonders why the sales fell short we can point to the petition and say "here's why".
>>317493778
I think this is the funniest part of it all, because none of the shit on here is taken seriously by other people.
>>317493919
Those goddamn Injuns dont deserve to be in this game, we need to replace it with a good old 'murrican cowboy.
>>317485668
Why are people pretending to be so surprised by this?
I mean the first game had censored outfits.
What am I supposed to see uncensored anyway? A bellybutton? Who the FUCK cares?
>>317486942
Yet you can't type kanjis
>Finally a cool game with cool native Americans
>NoA
>NOPE
Fuck them. I wanted this in the game.
>>317493870
>>317493778
how is boycotting a bad thing now?
why is being a sensible consumer linked to "autism" now?
are you just being contrarian for the hell of it?
Just yelling the word "boycott" is a fruitless effort but the idea is in the right path
>>317493920
You're simple.
Follow the conversation far back enough, and you'll see a guy telling you to learn to speak moon. The Japanese version is not published by Nintendo (or translated for that matter--why would they for the Japanese release).
You can buy a used Japanese 3DS and still support this game.
>>317492132
Do I need a gateway or something to do the CFW to install patches? Or is the gateway only for playing ROMs
Links would be nice
Feels really good to know japanese.
You faggots deserve this.
>>317494048
>No more Indinian waifus.
>No reason to care.
I care.
>>317493967
Good point.
I wish you guys luck then
>>317494253
play the Japanese version then if you want it so bad.
>>317493778
>>317493870
>>317494004
Hello Treehouse. Or is it 8-4? Either way enjoy looking for a new line of work in a few years.
>>317494173
>sensible consumer
I don't think you know what you're talking about.
>>317494173
>how is boycotting a bad thing now?
When you do it over something so damn trivial
>why is being a sensible consumer linked to "autism" now?
I'm not calling sensible consumers autistic, I'm calling you and those who feel the same way you do autistic
>are you just being contrarian for the hell of it?
I really should be asking you and your friends this question
>>317494353
>projection
epic, have fun with your sure to be successful boycott senpai.
>>317494353
Yeah, you got me! I'm Allison!
Someone will make an uncensored patch just like with BD. You can run patches over retail games now so it's not a big deal
>>317493778
The rest of the world won't even know the wonders they missed because you are doing a really poor job showcasing the game.
>>317494173
>why is being a sensible consumer linked to "autism" now?
Because caring about a costume redesign that in no way changes anything except aesthetics is autistic.
>are you just being contrarian for the hell of it?
No, just not autistic.
>Just yelling the word "boycott" is a fruitless effort but the idea is in the right path
No it's not, especially when the majority of the people screaming it don't even want the game and just want to ride the new /v/ controversy train.
>>317494353
>new line of work
No one except /v/ cares about this shit. Also, this comment is funny as hell because I literally just got done saying if you don't want to support them and want the "original version", you should just learn Japanese and play that version.
>>317493778
Yes we're petty to complain about a trivial thing, but its also petty to complain and get a trivial thing censored.
No argument on /v/ would be complete without a terrible food analogy. Imagine you order a fucking meal, and the faggot vegetarian next to your table complains about meat. The waiter then tells you the bacon bits have been removed from your meal because of the faggot vegetarian. Even though its a small thing that doesnt make a big difference, you should be fucking pissed that something you like was removed.
>>317494546
>the wonders they missed
It's just one edited outfit, no need to go full retard over trivial shit like that, it doesn't even affect gameplay.
Would you say I look a quarter Native?(I am)
Arguing with someone over this and they don't believe a "white guy" like me has any say and they don't believe I'm native
>>317494524
>over retail games
I never fully understood that. How is savefile compatibility?
Does it work just fine even if you apply or un-apply the patch in the middle of a as of yet uncompleted game?
Or do you have to start fresh and commit?
>>317494664
>No argument on /v/ would be complete without a terrible food analogy.
Why would you make a terrible food analogy and think anyone would take it seriously
>mfw this was the last straw for me after xenoblade X
Time to buy a gateway and just pirate every game out of pure principle.
>>317494752
>>317494752
Tell them they're racist if they think a white person shouldn't have a say so.
>>317494752
You look like a Mexican who's about to be taken to the border.
>>317485960
in western culture blood and gore is ok but sex is a nono
in eastern culture its the other way around
>>317494803
m8, you just want to pirate because you want free shit. Just own up to it already.
What was even the point of this? I don't understand. Why did that need to be changed?
Is this thread just gonna devolve into arguing and shit-flinging now?
>>317494506
>When you do it over something so damn trivial
if you are not as passionate about videogames or your hobbies being watered down by companies then I don't know what you're doing in this thread
it's trivial to you but not for people that want their products to be handled better
But I'm mostly with this guy >>317494234
Might as well learn Japanese if I want to play the game that bad
>>317494823
Well I'm 3/4ths white.
But pure natives are pretty much extinct now, and you can never be racist again because because reasons
>>317494910
Some people just want uncensored games and play games without supporting censorship.
>>317485668
i made that shitty image in paint after reading it was from tumblr in the first /v/ thread
didnt expect it to be used everywhere i guess they guy from tumblr is happy i didnt show his name lel
>>317494959
If you're 3/4ths white. You're not white.
>>317494940
>if you are not as passionate about videogames or your hobbies being watered down by companies
This is not watering down my experience.
>>317486784
>>317490075
Senran Kagura, probably one of the lewdest non-porn games in existence is on the 3DS. I don't think Nintendo is to blame for Square's decision.
>>317494910
Fuck you buddy, I was a proper little consumer before all this. I even bought bravely default and gave a proper message to nintendo that "I don't agree with the censoring of outfits, please refrain from doing it again".
WELL THEY DID IT AGAIN SO I'M DONE
>>317494794
It's sort of like a soft-patch. There's a homebrew app called HANS that can redirect code to the content of an edited package of the game. I've been using it to play as Kris in Pokemon ORAS. You can apply it in the middle of save that's already in progress just fine.
>>317494989
Nah, some people want to be cheapasses and pirate shit.
It's okay to want free stuff, but drop the morality facade. I pirate porn, video games, music, TV shows, etc. But I only do it because I don't want to pay for it. It's okay.
>>317485668
>I AM ENTITLED TO THE ORIGINAL ASSETS OF THE GAME
Don't buy it then, if you think that way.
>>317494550
>especially when the majority of the people screaming it don't even want the game and just want to ride the new /v/ controversy train.
you can't really back this shallow claim up
>>317494937
All "censorship" threads do. That's why this thread exists. If you're looking for a circlejerk on why Nintendo is shit, then get >>>/out/
>>317495185
>you can't really back this shallow claim up
In months when we're playing BS, the threads will be filled with people talking about the game and not bitching about this inconsequential shit. Same thing happened with BD.
>>317495172
Or just buy the original game.
>>317492763
/v/ honestly, as a developer or a video game company, my duty is towards the gaming community that will buy my game, not pansies, feminists or social justice bloggers who barely play any games at all.
>>317495150
>You can apply it in the middle of save that's already in progress just fine.
And it has no chance of corrupting the saves or anything?
I know these are no old school roms or anything like that. But I know that modding old SNES games thoroughly raped all save data. And I have messed up quite a few save files for PC games too through over extensive modding.
>>317494796
Do you have zero sense of humor you retarded fuck? Do I need to put meme faces for you to understand something is tongue in cheek?
>>317495296
Fucking this. The same thing happened with Awakening.
>>317495387
Or pirate and patch it
>>317495474
And this is why /v/ will never be taken seriously.
>>317495439
>my duty is towards the gaming community that will buy my game
>marketing to /v/
something here is not adding up
Why don't you just accept people ruining your games?
>>317495451
It depends on what the patch in particular changes but there's no reason why a simple model switch should corrupt your save. You should be backing up your saves in advance regardless.
>>317495296
I got Awakening and BD used though
I still care for the cause but I can't just not play them
It's cognitive dissonance and I wish to have gotten a fuller experience
>>317495638
was bravely default ruined by its changes
>>317495569
why?
>>317495638
Because it's one fucking outfit, not a plot detail.
>>317495723
Ruined is a strong word. But it most certainly was made worse.
>>317495040
Nintendo didn't localize Senran Kagura. Nintendo are localizing Bravely Second. Do you honestly not see the difference or are you just shitposting out of boredom?
>>317495786
There's one word in there that's going to tip of any major publisher. Just saying.
>>317495825
If it was a plot detail you wouldn't even know it was changed because no one is going to translate the entire game parallel to NOA's trans to make sure they didn't fuck something up
>>317495892
how was it worse
>>317495995
He didn't have a stiffy while he played
>>317495723
yeah, they took out the best part
Japan gets all the best DLC
>>317495982
>If it was a plot detail you wouldn't even know it was changed
Bullshit. When BD came out, there had already been a group of English speakers that experienced the title.
Same thing for any big Japanese title. If you look in the right places, you can know everything about the game before it comes out here.
I don't get why the game industry doesn't do what the music industry does and offer a clean version and an uncensored version for games they feel need localized. They could even make the uncensored version only available to purchase online or something if they are so worried about sheltering children.
>>317496115
>>317496116
like clockwork
>>317495951
Except that world wouldn't be a part of the conversation if the game was uncensored. If the publishers alienate and piss off their hardcore fans they can expect to lose sales.
>american release being handled by NoA
Literally everyone saw this coming.
>>317496239
The truth hurts. It's not very hard to call it like it is.
>>317496143
>When BD came out, there had already been a group of English speakers that experienced the title.
And no one would've bothered telling little ol EOP shitter the real plot. They wouldn't even know because no one is going to play both versions
>>317496287
>world
Meant word obviously.
http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-bravely-second-swaps-native-american-headdress-for-cowboy-hat-322021.phtml
>Destructoid just received a heated news tip in our tips inbox stating "...I learned that Square Enix has replaced a Native American class called Tomahawk with Cowboy class in Bravely Second's western version. I find this very untasteful considering how natives were genocided and their culture was almost completely destroyed in the US. I hope you can spread the news and hopefully Square Enix removes cowboy pandering." The email included the image seen above, which has the file name "cultural genocide".
just reading that makes me want more censorship
>>317495995
The bravo bikini jokes and plot line was made a huge mess out of the disconnect between the characters' dialogue and reactions to the bravo bikini versus how tame it ultimately was even in comparison to many of the regular battle gear.
But more importantly. As far as the main story itself is concerned, the ages of the main characters makes no damn sense relative to when events transpired in game and what the characters themselves shouldn't and should have experienced.
Certain key plot elements takes place before the characters were even born, which was central to the story itself. But then they upped the age and it no longer makes sense unless they have the worst memories ever.
>>317496326
no, i'm with you on your explanation as to why he thought it was worse
>>317496326
There's no truth involved. You're handwaving away arguments with insults which is the exact same bullshit tactic the SJWs use.
>>317496483
Changing it to a cowboy is actually more sensitive though because we don't want to appropriate native American culture and put it in our Japanese and white people video games. It's their culture, not ours.
>>317496483
Well at least people are trying
>>317496621
>There's no truth involved.
This is right up there with people pretending they pirate for moral reasons. You just want to masturbate to your games. There's literally no other reason to care that a woman became less naked. Just admit that you want to masturbate.
>the asterisk holder is changed into a rootin' tootin' southern belle
>>317486273
They made her a Cowboy instead of an Indian.
>>317485668
americans are sexually repressed and parents dont want their children playing games with stuff like this. it hurts sales.
>>317496756
So you do it again. Unfortunately for you and your like-minded peers anyone with critical thinking skills can see past your bullshit.
>>317497009
No one under 25 would play Bravely Default. It's an RPG calling back to the 90s.
>>317486665
It is sweet. My childhood has been nothing but elementary kids passing lewd hentai art. Even asking classmates to draw them if they are good.
>>317497084
You're not really pointing out how you don't care about anything but your stiffy.
Not even saying there's anything wrong with boners, but it's hilarious seeing you people try to act as if you have some other, non-mastubatory reason to care.
>>317496662
You are being sarcastic, I know, but it was really hard to tell. Be careful with sarcasm, anon.
>>317497009
Why do people keep bringing up sex appeal when the costume is still lewd?
>>317487506
they didn't even reduce skin shown
it's about not looking like a stereotypical indian
which is a real shame because the feather accessory looked way cuter than the cowboy hat.
FUCK YOU NINTENDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>317497272
Love your argument. it's like when Muslims say "But well what's wrong with women wearing full veils in public? You Westerners only care about your stiffys so you can leer at women showing skin!"
>>317497665
>trying to derail this into /pol/shit
kek
>>317496756
as a person who dealt with Megaman Battle Network 6's terrible localization removing content (literally anything related to Boktai, battle chips and extra scenario included) I hate getting products that are less than their Japanese counterparts
I hated Lunar Knight's localization and I hated Starforce's removal of things.
Then I hear this big controversy of the Xenoblade wiiU game about altering and removing allusions to Christianity and Budhism (which is a pretty huge thing to alter for such a big release), that and the fanservice being altered and people have the right to be pissed off
But fags like you and >>317496326 are the type to accept it. Also the type that spews "you only care because you can't masturbate to it"
I just strongly believe that it is wrong to censor a game or localize it poorly. Even if it is a costume change, it's these small changes that lead companies to reign over bigger ones.
As a consumer of course I am going to express my dissatisfaction with companies that do this
But no, keep telling me on how I only care about jacking off to Yoshida's character design
>>317498083
>it's these small changes that lead companies to reign over bigger ones.
right off the slippery slope we go
>>317493853
It's already been proven Indians waged war several times before Europeans settled here, what makes you think they were going to be peaceful?
>>317492302
>Is everyone just supposed to wear t-shirts and jeans now?
If you want to look like a generic black guy, sure
>>317498083
Finally some reasons. Thanks for the post anon, now I can better understand where you are coming from. I don't know why your fellow anons can't be arsed to come up with some proper points of why they are upset.
That being said, in the case of Bravely Default the only thing being censored is the outfits. That isn't a big deal to me, no. Also capcom fucking sucks so I'm not surprised about Battle Network
>>317493778
>tfw the rest of the world is free from this kind of autism
Japanese Otaku boycotts have literally bankrupt Studios. They don't do some flip-floppy shit in the west "oh this thing is bad I'll boycott in it that I won't by still buying it but make a blogpost about being angry", when they boycott something, they fucking boycott it.
Would you pay a man to censor a game of things you didn't like?
>>317494752
Does it matter? Native Americans were nearly 1/3 European and 2/3 Asian
>>317498682
>>317498682
>Japanese Otaku boycotts have literally bankrupt Studios
3 examples?
>>317489802
Better start learning moon runes.
>>317498682
It probably helps that they are in Japan, boycotting Japan companies too.
>>317498787
Don't worry, there won't be any games of worth coming out of Japan in 10 years or so the way their population crisis is going.
>>317486665
Japan is full of pedophiles. That's who buys these games, not kids retard.
So how do you win in this situation if you're a fucking Politcal correct retard?
If you leave the costumes and class as it is, you're appropriating their culture.
If you remove the costumes and change the class you're white washing away the appearance of an underrepresented culture.
>>317499052
huh?
This little pink shit needs to check his privilege
>>317499319
???
>>317499293
>If you remove the costumes and change the class you're white washing away the appearance of an underrepresented culture.
That's actually a pretty great claim against this sort of this
>>317498212
The removal of philosophical and religious references from XCX is already a big change. There's no need to suggest a slippery slope because we've already fallen down it. Yet faglords such as yourself claim we only care about sexual content even though the fucking OP of this thread is not about sexual content at all (as has been pointed out, the new costume is just as lewd as the replaced one). The issue here is that content was changed in order to keep from hurting the feelings of the overly sheltered PC crowd and dipshits like you enable such harmful behavior.
>>317499424
Kill yourself my man.
>>317485668
That's too bad. The tomahawk outfit is way better designed.
>>317499439
Nah, they just say that the creators should create a character/costume that isn't based on stereotypes and leave it at that. There is no winning with these people.
>>317499293
It's always safer to remove, especially since it's a Japanese game. It isn't a game made by Native Americans, so it's less problematic to remove cultural elements that belong to them.
>>317491085
Spoiler that shit you pedo
>>317499752
So the ultimate end result will be the systematic removal of Native culture from all forms of media so that new generation will never be exposed to said culture and it'll end up forgotten and erased from the public conscious.
Great work, let's continue the genocide and marginalization of the Native people till they're gone.
Why don't you guys pose as Native American activists on twitter and decry the removal as destroying/whitewashing depictions of your culture? Fuck NOA in the butt for this.
>>317487513
>>317499293
The biggest problem is that they're named after Tomahawks which makes no sense because their specialty weapons are crossbows and no other class in the game is named directly after a weapon.
What they should've done is change the name and maybe edit the costume a little to be less of a stereotype. Instead they changed Native Americans to Cowboys which is a problem of its own.
>>317488460
Dude don't give her the attentions she seeks or you'll get in that spoopy google doc
>>317499980
No, because the sjws will force tons of token native Americans into positions in the industry and their depictions will be allowed, but only theirs
>>317498682
I find it kind of sad that people do not realize what sort of power we have as consumers. You know what would've happened if every single one of the neckbeards complaining here boycotted FE:Fates, XCX, Bravely Second etc.?
There would be change and heads would roll, you best believe it nigga. The only way to influence corporate decisions is by hurting their revenue son. We as consumers control that revenue.
Do you think we need cultural quotas in video games? Like say for every 1 white man you need to have 1 African man, 1 Asian man, 1 Native American man, 1 hispanic man, etc?
>>317500576
>We as consumers control that revenue
This is what I've been saying.
But then we get idiotic people that try to discourage other's by saying "it's doesn't affect the game!" "you are just losers that want more things to jack off to" "autism!"
This isn't even a stretch of a claim, you can find this toxic behavior in this thread
>>317500736
This is hardly a "cultural quota". Silicon Studios probably thought that Native American warriors looked cool and tried to make a class based on it.
>>317485668
How hard would it be just to leave shit like this alone?
Seriously, why?
Who is going to get offended by one of these outfits and not the other?
also
>turning native american outfit into a cowboy outfit
How is this not more offensive than showing some skin?
>>317500070
Please keep that shit away. I'm completely anti-censorship but people spamming that image just makes us look bad. Instead of handwaving away their arguments with a meme image let's actually try debating with the censorship people. Their arguments are flimsy anyways so it doesn't take much effort to poke holes in them, and we'll look all the better for it.
>>317500070
I really hate this bingo meme. All bingos are basically made to try to prevent discussion. Its like getting mad at people for posting reaction images.
