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>21,507
>21,507
>21,507

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/42316/USA/
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Wow, no one could have predicted this.
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Was anyone expecting anything differently?
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I knew this was going to happen. I knew it. You can't just force things and expect them to be hits.

Look at what Disney's been doing with Marvel and Star Wars
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>>317423241
>muh sales
>>>neogaf
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>>317423241
sold more than project steam.
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>IT'S THE NEW POKEMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>vgchartz
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>>317423241
the fuck is this tumblr pokemon shit
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Thank fuck for that.
The last thing we needed is for them to get the impression we want more of this shit.
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Never heard of it. Is it supposed to be like Pokemon ?
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>>317423395
They aren't perfect, but they definitely get the general numbers right. YW fucking bombed.
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>>317423441
>tumblr

really nigga?
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>>>>>>>>pokemon killer
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Fucking hell, guess we're not getting the sequel now.
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>vgchartz

>>317423371

If we're going by VGchartz' bullshit, then didn't that game sell 37k in the first week?
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>>317423518
It's worse
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>>317423358
Except Star Wars and Marvel are already hits.
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i think we all know who's to blame


BILL
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>>317423441
>Yokai watch
>Tumblr

What
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>>317423518
It's Pokemon that is even simpler, targets even younger children, and somehow has worse designs than current Pokemon.
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>>317423441
>Bitching about Yo-Kai
>Yo-Kai is literally just ghost Pokemon
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>weird ass intensely japanese game even after translating sells poorly to kids
No surprise there.

Game is honestly pretty fun though and its a shame the sequels probably won't come over now.
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>>317423645
It actually feels more like SMT than it does Pokemon.

And it isn't that bad. Although to think it could do better than Pokemon is a stretch.
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>"pssst... Pokemon, your time is up......."
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>>317423368
>saving stock images from tumblr
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No real loss for them. I think they wanted it to be big just so they could have Pokemon and Yokai Watch under the belts and make dosh.
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>NoA after splatoon thought they could actually advertise.

Loving

Every

Laugh

They should just stick to saying yoshi is cute XD and shilling mario games.
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Pokémon killer
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It's just Pokemon with somehow less depth and none of the brand recognition.
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Has the anime aired on TV yet?
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It's too Japanese for Americlaps.
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>>317423938
Yeah and it's fucking shit, the localization has the budget of a Youtube series.
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It really doesn't play like pokemon at all.

I wish the people who would say "is pokeyman lol" would actually watch some gameplay. Its closer to a more traditional JRPG with tons of quests and a more open world than it is to pokemon.
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>>317423938
It's been airing in the US on Disney XD of all places.
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Came out at a REALLY bad time.

I seriously think more people would have picked it up if they released it at a better time of year and not up against stuff like BO3/Halo/Fallout 4/etc. Not to mention it is going up against Pokemon Mystery Dungeon on the 3DS alone, and does not have the fanbase that Japan does with it.

Fuck, I would have picked it up at launch if they did it a few months earlier or in the slower parts of 2016.
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Sure as fuck it won't reach the Japanase numbers, but I'd say wait for official numbers. Doubt I did anywhere near their expectations, but I don't think it flopped this bad either.
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Part of the appeal of the game in Japan is how it references their native folklore and culture. That will be completely lost on foreign kids.
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>>317423523
>but they definitely get the general numbers right.
They really don't.
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/71286/eiyuu-densetsu-sora-no-kiseki-fc/USA/
This game's ownership started out at fucking 50k, and only decreased to its actual numbers once Xseed started implying the game didn't actually sell well. It only became actually correct after four years of guessing.

I'm pretty sure 34,000 people didn't suddenly have their copies disappear by the end of 2011. I don't even think 34,000 people knew the game existed in 2011.

>YW fucking bombed.
It probably did, yeah. Literally anyone other than the POKEMON KILLER shitposters could've predicted this, and they probably could have too but wanted to avoid it.
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Well I guess we won't be get anymore of the better sequels. Shame too because I actually like the game a lot. I also have a feeling tons of Pokemon shitters are going to shit up this thread even though Yokai Watch fans don't even try to start shit with them in the first place. I guessed it the only thing they can brag about after such a lackluster and shitty gen this was and Gamefreak not even caring anymore. The only thing keeping Pokemon alive at this point is the competitive side and Nintendrones that'll buy anything Nintendo.
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>>317424107
>XD
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>>317423686
No they're not, they're manufactured fun.

Avengers 1 was a hit, Avengers 2 was mediocre and received not much of a reception on release. Counting the worldwide marketing budget, it made far less than Disney was expecting.

Same thing's going to happen with Star Wars. This one might be a hit, but with the spin-off movies they're making, the burnout will set in really quick and people will get tired of the focus committed safe, bland, corporate boardroom manufactured entertainment. Marvel is already down the tube.
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>>317424107
>XD
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They made the mistake of really pushing the entire "multimedia project" show/game/toys/etc. cash grab angle. They should have just treated it like another niche jrpg.
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>>317423241
>Pokemon killer
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I'm sure the game would be a success if Nintendo of America actually knew how to advertize something that wasn't already insanely popular.

p.s Splatoon is a success because lolicons, that's something Nintendo will never admit.
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>>317424123
It literally came out the same day as Black Ops III, which targets the same demographic as Yokai Watch, aka children. What the fuck did they expect?
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>>317424123
>I seriously think more people would have picked it up if they released it at a better time of year and not up against stuff like BO3/Halo/Fallout 4/etc.

im really doubt yokai watch was trying to catch the same audience as BO3, halo, and fallout 4
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>>317424123
>BO3/Halo/Fallout 4/etc
Its not going for that audience, unless parents are getting THAT sloppy with choosing games for their kids.
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>>317424107
>XD

Pls go away
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>>317424190
All their movies make tons of money for little effort. Drop the fedora once in a while.
>muh long post makes me seem knowledgeable
Hilarious.
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>>317424178
>>317424194
>>317424281
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>>317424234
>p.s Splatoon is a success because lolicons
The fact that it has genuinely fresh, good, and addicting gameplay might have something to do with it too.
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>>317424281
Wow you're really stupid aren't you anon. Disney XD is a television channel.
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Damn, Chibi Robo: Zip Lash opened in the U.S. with 26,000, and that was considered a franchise-ending number.
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>>317424107
>XD
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>>317423241
nice source
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>>317424123
>I seriously think more people would have picked it up if they released it at a better time of year and not up against stuff like BO3/Halo/Fallout 4/etc

This is a franchise targeting children, those games shouldn't really factor into its sales. It bombed for other reasons.
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>>317423241
>Game about Japanese culture does great in Japan but bombs in the west
Who could have guessed.

Also, that marketing was outright horrible.
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oh god they invested all that money into bringing the show and toys over as well.
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>>317424149
especially with that AWESOME localization XD
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>>317424190
Alright, /tv/. It's not like you're wrong literally every time.
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>>317424178
>>317424194
>>317424281
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So since Yokai Watch won't be a popular game, does that mean it's safe for discussion on /v/?
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>>317424316
> a handful of sentences is now a long post

When you're actually sitting at a desktop computer it's not hard to type. You milennial smartphone-addled children are insufferable, Christ. Just go back to fucking reddit, and take your shitty attitude with you.
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>>317424151
>even though Yokai Watch fans don't even try to start shit with them in the first place.
I don't really care one way or the other but every fucking thread about this game was "POKEMON KILLER" this or "POKEMON BTFO" that.
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>>317424394
>This is a franchise targeting children, those games shouldn't really factor into its sales
Anon please. Kids fucking love FPS games.
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>NoA didn't advertise
>it doesn't sell

What a surprise.
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>>317423241
That means it's only going to sell 5 copies here in Aus.
RIP Yokai
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IT's a fucking kids game, they should know the market isn't there anymore. Tell me one kid under 15 who owns a 3ds. Smartphone apps are the future. Deal with it.
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>>317424346
If that was a factor than japan and the rest of the world wouldn't have brutally ignored W101 like they did.
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>>317424190
What the fuck are you on about Ultron is like the sixth highest grossing film of all time

It's shit, but that's not the point
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>>317424493
>unironically uses the term millennials
>is probably in his twenties
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>>317423241
What do you expect? Pokemon is still strong here
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>>317424246
>>317424274
>>317424394

AAA games are children games nowadays

Yokai was literally playing with fire and got burned picking that sales date
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>>317424178
>>317424194
>>317424281
>>317424369
The dumbest meme.
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>>317424469
Hell no. You'll never go a thread without someone calling it a shitty pokemon clone. It's the /v/ curse that hits every new game.
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>>317424178
>>317424194
>>317424281
>>317424369

"Disney XD" is the literal name of the channel you retards
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>>317424190
Anon I think you're understimating the normalfags, they will do anything on their power to feel set up apart from the herd and the most not-normalfag they know is liking Sci-fi, and since Startrek isn't going anywhere and you would have to be hardcore to be there the only option remain is Star Wars.

Outside of 4chan I can't even badmouth that film because I have earned enemies for that, but basically It won't bomb no matter how much they milk it.
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>>317424623
thats right and shove that i -in your hairy ass
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>>317424534
Another aus cunt here planning on getting it, where are you?
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>>317424657
>literally went out of his way to put XD in the Disney logo
Just stop, man.
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>>317424496
It's all bait, no person in their right mind said this was going to be more successful than Pokemon. Not even Yokai fans thought that. They knew the game is niche and wouldn't be successful to begin with.
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>>317424190
>manufactured fun.
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>>317424592
You can't even fucking compare those two games. W101's gameplay isn't easy to grasp and splatoon's is simple, easy to pick up and master, and inventive. Splatoon also actually has long term support.
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>>317423241
Being an SMT/Pokemon rip-off helps nothing.
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HAW HAW!
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>>317424632
Retards are technically a different audience than children, anon.
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>>317424347
>XD
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>>317424529
>>NoA didn't advertise
Dude. This game is ALL they advertised for the past month.
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>>317424246
>>317424274
>>317424394
You would be very, VERY surprised how many kids plays that crap. Not even joking, I added those particular games for a reason.
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>>317424796
fuck off
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>>317424739
Radelaide, mang
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>>317424745
The dumbest meme.
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>>317424836
CoD maybe, but not halo and fallout
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Does this include e-shop sales because I'm pretty sure it's been number one there for a while.
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>>317423523
>but they definitely get the general numbers right.
[citation needed]
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>murrican kids don't like game with japanese monsters in them
No way
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>>317424246
>im really doubt yokai watch was trying to catch the same audience as BO3, halo, and fallout 4
You mean children? Because I'm pretty sure that's the audience they were aiming for.
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>>317424951
Kids love Halo, especially creating shit in forge mode.
My little brothers and their friends all bought Fallout 4 too
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>>317424951
>Halo
>Fallout
>Not for kids
Who are you kidding? Besides, what 6-year-old these days hasn't played Skyrim?
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>>317425062
>what is Pokemon
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>>317423315

Hipsterfags were, there were threads claiming it was a pokemon killer, but look where that went
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>tfw we probably won't get the sequel now
And I heard it was a massive improvement over the first.
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>>317425110
Not about Youkai
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>>317425113
Read >>317424751
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>>317424560
Pretty much this. The only reason pokemon still sells is it has been around for fucking 20 years now. Kids recognize it in the same way they recognize Mario and Mickey Mouse.
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According to the same site, Super Mystery Dungeon had 36,000 preorders in the U.S. as of two weeks before its release.

So SMD beat it with just preorders.
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>>317425110
Not him, but Pokemon has been huge in the west for a while
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So how is it though?

Picking up a 3DS tomorrow probably and need some games. The last Pokemon I played was Y I think but I didn't get far into it.
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>>317424810
>literally playing memestone
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>>317424316
>>317424417
>>317424610
>>317424723

You guys are just not seeing the big picture here. Disney acquired Marvel as a long-term property, and the fact that their movie revenue is already dropping off this fast is not a good indicator for the next 20 years.

> All their movies make a profit!
Not as much profit as you think when you add in the worldwide marketing they do for them. Added to this is the fact that the returns on sequels drop off the longer the franchises go on. Iron Man 2 made less than the first, and 3 made less than 2. Same with Avengers, same with Thor, same with Captain America. Once they retire these guys they'll have nothing to hold anyone's interest.

They're doing the same thing with Star Wars with the spin off movies. They're literally turning Star Wars into serialized capeshit. Imagine the year 2019, when yet another Star Wars movie is coming out, and your first thought is that you might wait until it hits Netflix to watch it.

That's what's happening with these properties. They're bland, they're safe, they never take any risks, they're full of pandering to autistic fanbases, and they're corporate manufactured fun. "You WILL like this. It WILL be a hit". Disney is going to find out their rope isn't as long as they think it is.
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>>317425227
I swear to God, if Metacritic fuck this thing up again i'm gonna do something.
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>>317425267
I like it.

It does not play like pokemon in the fucking slightest. They were trying to capture that same market but they're pretty different games gameplay wise.
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>>317424394
Have you been living under a rock for decades? Kids love FPS games, and they loved skyrim so they will like fallout 4 too.
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I never expected it to really take off like they were expecting it to. It's obvious from all the merchandising they were hoping to repeat pokemon's success from the late ninties/early 2000s, but the playing field is just too different now a days for it to be that kind of success.

Pokemon came out at a time when broadcast stations still had strong cartoon line-ups on the weekend that most kids watched and the gameboy had practically no competition in the handheld market.

Now practically no stations have strong cartoon blocks thanks to streaming programs, and handhelds are getting raped by the mobile market.

It basically had no chance of repeating pokemon's success.
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>>317425110
He means based on Japanese culture. Only a few Pokemon do that, but their designs are mostly universal. Yo-kai are based on actual mythology and ooze Japanese culture. The awkward localizing attempt probably didn't help either. We're talking 4kidz tier work.
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I work at gamestop. and my local nintendo rep came into the store talking this game up so much.
He told me he couldn't wait to see the how they'll handle the third game in america.
He's completely in denial of how much this thing is flopping.
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>>317424810
What the fuck am I even looking at here. Yes, I'm the guy you replied to.
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> ignore xcx
>market garbo like mario tennis, amiibo party, and yokai watch
>this happens

NoA getting what it deserves
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>>317425420
any examples of bad localization?
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Kinda surprised how its avoiding controversy, though.

You'd think a game about befriending ghosts and demons would raise a few eyebrows.
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>>317425350
Are you some sort of insider and have real numbers? Literally the only one there that made less than its predecessor was Age of Ultron.
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>>317425565
ISIS are too busy being the main topic just about everywhere.
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>>317425350
Capeshit was a fad and there was too much of it squeezed out at once. I won't be surprised if everything Marvel becomes niche again
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>>317425420
>We're talking 4kidz tier work.
I challenge.
They call riceballs and ramen by their names.
A lot of the yo-kai keep their japanese names.
They even mention "Tsuchinoko" as if any american knows what the fuck that is.
They americanized character names and location names, but pokemon also did that, so try harder.
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>>317425507
What do you guys even consider "marketing"? All the stuff you don't see?
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>>317425361

that's good if it doesn't play like Pokemon. I find Pokemon really boring to be honest.

I'm only interested in this because I find Japanese mythology cool, as weeb as it sounds.
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>>317425507
They're not ignoring xcx, they're too busy fucking with it to market it.
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>>317425507
They marketed Yokai Watch?
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>my fucking face when people were saying this had any chance whatsoever of being near the popularity of pokemon in the west
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>>317423241
Is this a surprise? Just look at those dog shit creature designs. They make newer pokemon designs look fantastic in comparison.
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>>317423241
There are 3 problems with this.
1. vgchartz numbers are meaningless.
2. Christmas is soon, and parents may not have gotten it right away since they plan on picking it up closer to Christmas.
3. The toy line isn't out yet.

Yo-kai Watch ratings on Disney XD are better than Doraemon, but that's not saying much. This week it did almost 400k. For reference, Disney XD's most popular show, Gravity Falls, can have anything from 900k to 1.5 million. Wander Over Yonder, the 2nd most popular show on Disney XD, does about 400k too. If Yo-Kai Watch can keep those ratings at that level it'll be OK. They dip to 150k-250k at times though.

I'm interested in what the numbers for the game will be post-Christmas season.

Has there been a Pokemon-like phenomenon since Pokemon?

t. Level 5 employee.
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>>317425648

Good point.

Ah well. Anything that only airs on That-Channel-That-Used-To-Be-Toon-Disney never had a chance anyway.
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>>317425507
>ignore xcx
Nin kid related games sell like garbage on Nintendo systems in the West. This was their best bet.

Their big problem was the company developing all these smaller, amiibo reliant titles that are scoring poorly. Hope the can pick up the pace next year because the past season's been really bad.
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Kids don't have portable systems anymore. And they don't have cartoons either. They have phones and TV shows produced by pedophiles.
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>>317425110

Yokai Watch is based on japanese mythology.
Poekmon is just regular animals and things turned into monsters.
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>>317425790
Hey Level 5 employee, is the west getting more LBX 3ds games?
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>>317425790
>Has there been a Pokemon-like phenomenon since Pokemon?
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>>317425424
The fact that this is flopping so hard likes me, not just to shut up those retards who where raising deathflags on pokemon all these months it also will shot to fucking Ninthendo What's the real demographic of Pokemon. Pokemon made its big hit on the 90's where things were simpler and that success is what have been keeping it as the Bahamuth it is now, but now they see that nowadays kids gives a shit about these games they will notice that they will eventually start to stop giving shits to Pokemon too, and the only thing keeping it afloat is us the nostalgiafags and maybe they will start to pander a little to us and drop that Family image bs.
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>>317425912
>TV shows produced by pedophiles.
Nothing changed, then.
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>>317425791
Doraemon gets pretty good ratings. It even got a second season.

>>317425507
I don't understand what you expect outside of commercials, which I'm sure will air the week of and before release. It's fucking annoying when games get commercials months or weeks in advance.

>look how much money we're spending on this
>hey look, you can't play it for three months, but we have a commercial are you hyped?

Fuck Resident Evil 6.
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>>317425920
>Poekmon is just regular animals and things turned into monsters.

Do you even lore?
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>>317426035
Good ol Dan Schneider still has work
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>>317426052

Yeah, whats good on that channel is probably cancellation-worthy on Nick or CN.
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>>317425997
Nah, it'll just tell them American's don't like Japanese culture that much.
Yo-kai watch is huge in Japan, and Poemon continues to be too.
No breaks on this train for Nintendo.
For NOA, maybe.
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>>317426145
>lore
you mean headcanon
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>>317426145
I think he meant by the appearance of most of the pokemon you have a bunch of animals n shit
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>>317425790

Just the fact it's on Disney XD, and not Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network, is already pretty sucky for it.
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>>317426160

You mean Dan "She's A Fighter" Schneider?
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>>317425350
>>317424190
>>317423358
Are you from /tv/ or /co/?
>Avengers: Age of Ultron grossed over $1.4 billion worldwide, making it the third-highest-grossing film of 2015 and the sixth-highest-grossing film of all time.
>Advance ticket sales for the film resulted in online movie ticket sites crashing. Vue Cinemas, the U.K.'s third-largest theater chain, sold 45,000 tickets in 24 hours, 10,000 of which were sold in 90 minutes, a record for the theater. It pre-sold a record breaking $6.5 million worth of IMAX ticket sales on a single day. IMAX has never previously registered more than $1 million in pre-sales on a single day

Sorry but I think that's a hit to me. Comparing Yo-kai watch to Pokemon is silly because Pokemon has always been a hit everywhere while Yo-kai watch just came out trying to milk on the franchise.

>>317425565
You lurk /v/?
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>vgchartz
Are you fucking serious m8?
Not doubting that it bombed, but come the fuck on.
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>>317426052
>Doraemon gets pretty good ratings. It even got a second season.

If that's true it's surprising considering the time slots they gave it.

I'm convinced they must have shelled out a bit of money for them to put Yokai watch in a 5 PM time slot instead of dead am hours like Doraemon was getting.
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>>317426052
>I don't understand what you expect outside of commercials, which I'm sure will air the week of and before release.

Did you saw the fucking marketing campaign that Fallout 4 had?, htey have obcene numbers of sales because of that, they made believe to the average joe that he needed toi play FO4 to stay in touch.

There are tons of things to expect before a game's launch, Nintendo is just shit marketing anything that isn't Mario.
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>>317423523
multiple developers have fucking said vgchartz numbers are no where near right
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>>317423241
Is the show even popular? I have a little brother who watches a ton of tv but I barely see him watch this shit
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>>317423241
A extremely japanese centric game and one of the monsters in the commercial did a literal fart attack. Who cares but JPN?
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>>317426308
Can't edit but the second one is Star wars. I don't give a damn but saying that Marvel and Star wars suck in terms of sales when both series have been milking normies and fans alike even before I was born is silly.

Comparing this to DC btw with them cancelling half of their Nu52.
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>so few sales AFTER ALL THAT ADVERTISING
God damn Nintendo.
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>>317426308

Lurk? I've been here for six years.

>>317426423

> they must have shelled out a bit of money for them to put Yokai watch in a 5 PM time slot instead of dead am hours like Doraemon was getting.

Probably the same way Nintendo pays CN to keep airing Pokemon.
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>>317423241
>Americunts killed the pokemon killer
If you fuckers weren't so busy stuffing your faces with burgers you could've helped make this great game a success.
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>>317426467
That's funny though, since Bethesda lets it's other games rot if it's not Fallout or TES.

Do you remember The Evil Within's marketing campaign by any chance?
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>>317426532

No. The show's been playing since early October, but on fucking Disney XD.

I haven't watched it (of course not), but the commercials for it during Gravity Falls make it look atrocious.
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>>317426682
But I bought it ;_;
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>>317424190
if their marvel model was performing below expectations then Disney wouldn't have been so quick to do the same with Star Wars. As tryhard as your analysis is, I'll believe the 200 people whos job it is to monitor and predict these things over at Disney over you.
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>>317426308

Age of Ultron was a failure in the eyes of Disney. You're not factoring the worldwide marketing budget either, which has been pegged at upwards of $400M. These movies aren't making ENOUGH money to justify these IP purchases to their shareholders. They keep trying to force them on people and they keep not living up to their expectations. Eventually this leads to implosion.

> According to Bleeding Cool’s sources, even though Age of Ultron made a butt-load of money, and got solid reviews (it has a 74% "fresh" on review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes), it didn’t make enough money, and it didn’t earn enough praise. Especially when compared to the 2012 original, which made $1.5 billion and has a 92% RT rating. Perhaps when you standards are that high, your definition of what is and isn’t a failure starts to change.

> This "failure" also had some unexpected consequences. Over the last few days, there has been a great deal of talk about the shake up in the executive ranks at Marvel, specifically the rift between Marvel CEO Isaac Perlmutter and Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige, and the dissolution of the so-called Creative Committee.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Why-Disney-Executives-Apparently-Think-Avengers-2-Was-Failure-80867.html
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>>317426682
>great game

You're a funny guy, Anon.
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>>317423241
That's pathetic, but even more pathetic is:

Legend of Zelda: Triforce Heroes
- Week 3
19,464

- Total Weeks
113,749

That's a 484% drop in sales from in week 3 from weeks 1 & 2.
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They took too long to localize it.

Hype died here the same time it started slowing down in Japan
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>pokemon killer
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>>317426682
don't you have some more franchises to kill level 5 shill?
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>>317426951
The game is shit, this is justified the drop.
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>>317426970
Only shitposters said it would be the pokemon killer
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>>317426560
Disney only acquired Star Wars because George Lucas decided to sell the company and literally approached Bob Iger with a steal of a deal. Lucasfilm and ILM are worth way, way more than $4b, George just wanted to wash his hands of everything and pass on the company to someone that he thought would "take good care of it". Star Wars literally just fell into Disney's lap.

>>317426839
see
>>317426854
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>>317426951

People still buy zelda?
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>>317423241
>people thought this would be the next pokemon
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>>317426854

At least Star Wars will never face that problem.

There are too many obsessed hardcore fans to let it fail. The kind of fans who buy every single toy and re-enact entire films with their collection.
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This seems to be a pattern with Level-5.

Remember their 'Zelda killer', Dark Cloud? Where is that now?
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>>317427147
You know what's funnier, people aready are playing the 4chan defense and pretending to be trolling when they said that, after month after month of nothing but "YW will kill Pokemon once for all" shit.

It's glorious.
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>>317427137
Not that one.
It was a vague attempt to revitalize the 4swords concept of multiplayer Zelda. But without proper comunication online and a single player mode tacked on, it was dead in the water.

I beat it the other day. Remarkably uninspired.
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>>317427380
>I'm am so fucking retarded that I fall for obvious bait
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>>317425927
Little Battlers Experience met sales expectations. There is definitely interest in bringing over more of the series, but right now the focus is on facilitating Yo-Kai Watch's growth in western markets. Don't expect Danbōru Senki Wars to come over, but you can be fairly optimistic about Danbōru Senki W Super Custom.

>>317425956
Wow. I can't believe I forgot Minecraft existed. That's definitely huge.

>>317426284
Yeah. I would prefer it be on Cartoon Network myself. It would get way more exposure and it's easily better than most of their day-time shows.
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>>317427213
This.

I know several fans who literally will eat any shit that has Star Wars strapped on, Disney knows that there are tons of retards like this and they wont stop of milking the damn franchise
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>>317427368
It was weird because the game was nothing like Zelda at all.
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>Chevy Corvette = Yo-Kai Watch
>John Goodman = NoA

NoA literally Americanized the game by getting rid of everything Japanese.

Seriously WTF. Yokai is Japanese for supernatural monsters but they changed everything else for the US release.
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>>317423241
That's what you get trying to sell a game about spirits to Bible Thumper the country.
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>>317427513
Whatever let you sleep at night anon.
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>>317427565
Same thing goes for pretty much everything people accuse of being a Zelda killer
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>>317426613
I don't see you on /v/ I see you on /co/ which is why I asked.

>>317426854
If it's such a failure why are they making not one but two more Avengers movies? Sorry but if it cost 400 million and they made around 1 billion I don't see that as a failure in my eyes especially considering that Fantastic Four failed and they are making another one.

>They keep trying to force them on people and they keep not living up to their expectations
That only applies to comic fans with 'muh lore.' Reminds me of all of the people who bitched about Nubo. Normies don't give a damn about comic books from the Golden or Silver age.

>>317426951
>>317427087
>>317427137
The sad thing is that I bought this game and I'm thinking about selling it on Craigslist or Ebay.
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>>317427616
what did they change?
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>>317427616
Nintendo didn't do it on their own volition. It was a choice made by Hasbro and Dentsu USA. I'm sure Level 5 had something to do with it too.
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>>317427565
it's almost like magazines came up with it to sell magazines because it was a sword adventure game on the ps2
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>>317423241
Why would kids buy Yokai Watch when there was a new Call of Duty coming out in the same week?
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>>317427524
Star Wars burnout will set in before 2025. Screencap this post. When you have 1 Star Wars movie per year, with the intent to ramp to 2 and possibly more, people will get tired of it. If it's not a numbered Episode, the sales will drop off.

The reason Disney is unhappy with these movies is not so much because of how much they spend on them, but how much TIME they spend on them too. You have to factor the time value of money into this equation. Why bother producing huge tentpole billion dollar movies if you don't meet your forecasts and projections. Shareholders demand continued growth. These movies don't move Disney's net worth, the overall merchandise sales do.

>>317427712
If the Disney executives consider these movies failures then they are failures. The only people who success or failure matters to are the Disney execs. If they don't meet their goals and projections, they are not successful.
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>>317424657

Stop memeing this hardZ
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>>317427712
I'm a Zelda fan, I bought the game, and I'm telling you, If you can sell it do it because it's my biggest buyer's remorse in a long time, I could have bought LBX but noooo I had to fell for the nostalgia faggotry and buy this piece of crap.
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>>317423241
would you say it was an atom bomb, baby? *snrrk*
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>>317427519

So you're actually a Level-5 employee? What the hell, do they pay people to post here, or are you so invested in your employer that you enthusiastically promote their IPs here off-the-clock, for free?
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>>317427368
Level-5 never called Dark Cloud a "Zelda Killer".

That was all PSM, and a few other rags followed without having played even a demo of it (they just saw a guy in a green hat holding a sword and running around in a big field).
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>>317427919
So if someone had a high expectation and sold beyond what they expected but they consider it a failure it's still a failure right?
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>>317427752
They changed everything that is Japanese related to US related stuff.

>>317427756
>Not teaching kids about Japanese culture

I don't get it. Why? Its like with 4Kids where they get rid of everything Japanese related in a goddamn JAPANESE ANIME they are localizing. Makes me think they do not want kids to know Japan doesn't exist or some bullshit.
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>>317428039
>falling for bullshit
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>>317428004
I didn't open it so I can probably still sell it along with the book.
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>>317427919

If Star Wars Burnout was ever going to happen, it would have in the last 30+ years.

This is a franchise that is just plain immune to failure.
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>>317423241
>tfw almost bought this
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>>317428039
I do it off the clock. I started visiting here way before I joined Level 5 though.
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>>317428089
If it exceeded their forecasts they wouldn't consider it a failure. Do you lack basic reading comprehension? This is how the corporate world works. They set targets and goals for products and services. If they're not met, they're not considered successful. This is economics 101.
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HIPSTERS BTFO

Pokemon killer? lmao Yo-kai is shit.

I know this one guy that loves this series so much he RP's as the female lead. Probably on suicide watch, he's on smashugbox.
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>>317423241
21k is a bomb now?

The crash cannot come fast enough.
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>>317428167
The same Hasbro that doesn't want kids knowing Transformers is actually Japanese.
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>>317428184
yeah if it survived the prequels, it can survive anything
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>>317423241
>Game aimed at children
>Expecting it to sell well right before Christmas season

Are gamers really this fucking stupid?
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>>317425775
>They make newer pokemon designs look fantastic in comparison.
Genwunner/Johtoddler please leave.
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>>317427919
>You have to factor the time value of money into this equation. Why bother producing huge tentpole billion dollar movies if you don't meet your forecasts and projections.
I don't think you're applying the time value of money correctly.
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>this actually managed to sell 21,000 copies

Kinda impressive desu.
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>>317423241
>Yokai watch

...WHY!?
Why do they keep making clones of the "Boy and his pet ______ fight/collect other _____" trope?? It doesn't fucking work, it's been done to death. No one cares, not even kids. The ones that do have all pretty much become devote followers of pokemon, and that will NEVER change, just like the CoD faggots will always buy those new games, regardless of how many better FPS pop up.
The only way this dumb pocket-monster trope would even have the slightest chance of having any kind of success is if they didn't aim at the pokemon audience and instead a new demographic entierly. I am still surprised no one has made a mature game based around this mechanic yet, and even though it would probably not do too well either, it would have a better chance then anything dumb enough to try and steal a piece of the pokemon pie from the kids.
A gruesome, prehistoric cockfighting ring with dinosaurs would be pretty cool. I'd like to play that.
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>>317428302
Why the fuck is Hasboro not wanting kids to know Japan? Are they racist? Kids need to lear about the world and culture and all that. Not shielding them from foriegn countires such as Japan. Jesus Christ, Hasboro is already making my blood boil thinking about it.
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>>317428167
The CEO of 4kids blatantly said that he wanted kids to not be able to tell that his adaptions came from a foreign country.
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>>317428303
Even with storm "ooga booga where da white wimin at" trooper and forced interracial keking?
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>>317428237
>If it exceeded their forecasts they wouldn't consider it a failure. Do you lack basic reading comprehension?
Are you a retard? It doesn't work like that in the video game world. There are people who sell beyond expectations and it's still considered a failure. It happened with P4U. It sold beyond expectations but it's considered a failure. Seriously go back to /tv/ or whatever the hell you came from. Nobody cares about Marvel or whatever.
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Fuck, do I have to buy another copy? I already have it twice
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>>317428184
> Star Wars
> 3 movies released in 1977, 1980, 1983
> ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FOR 16 YEARS
> 3 more movies released in 1999, 2002, 2005
> ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FOR 10 YEARS
> Movie in 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, ....

Do you see where I'm going with this? It's like surviving Auschwitz with scraps of bread, only to be rescued by the Allies who feed you whole meals and you die from your stomach bursting.

>>317428398
Time they spend on franchises that don't meet expectations is time that could have been spent on other things that bring higher returns.
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>>317428501
>It doesn't fucking work,
It does in Japan.

Real fucking well.
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>>317427919
Anon I want too this bombs hard but it won't happen, this motherfucking movie is so overhyped right now that could break record sales.
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>>317424347
>XD
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>that turbo-retard debating what game he should get for his 8-year-old niece
>he actually wanted to get her YW to play with other kids at school
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>>317428575

Dude, Hasbro has made toys of, and this is not an exaggeration, every single character that has ever appeared on screen in all six of the live action films.

And you know why? Because there are fans dedicated enough to buy them. And this has been the case since 1977. If anything, a steadier supply of material will make the hardcore fans even happier.
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>>317428514
Star Wars always had black jedis, why is that even an issue?
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>>317428513
Goes to show the CEO is racist. Not to mention not wanting kids to learn about Japan from those shows is total bullshit.

I studied about Japan during my elementary school years during the 90s, reading maps and such and watching animes that aired during that decade and knew they were from that nation.

These companies attempting to not wanting kids to know about Japan can go fuck themselves.
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Japans hivemind be-the-same-as-everyone-else mindset is the reason it took off.
The monster designs are terrible aside from like 4 or 5, which they always use in promotional stuff

There is no real challenge. No random encounters and its an auomated battle system

Graphics music and some basic gameplay elements are good, but there is nothing substantial or very interesting here
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>>317428664
That's a weirdly spesific scenario.
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What? The game sold like shit?

Yokai is why.
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>go to Best Buy to buy Yokai Watch
>can't find it on the shelves
>ask employee
>checks computer
>"Oh, we have 60 copies in stock."
>goes to the back and brings a box full of Yokai Watch
>buy the game
>takes the box somewhere
>a week later and they still haven't put the game on the shelves
How the fuck do they expect it to sell if it's not even being put out? Every store I've gone to has maybe one copy of the game hidden behind other games.
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Game bombs?

Yokai is why.
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>>317428553
Sales expectations are not the same as sales targets. You can do all the accounting and say "ok, for Dead Space 3 to be successful we need to sell 5 million copies", then you can have the analysts come out and say "hey look, we're probably only going to sell 3 million max".

This is how large corporations work. It works the same way with movies. Giant mega companies like to know ahead of time how well they think something is going to do so they can adjust ahead of time and either shitcan the sequels and work on something else or ramp up production.

I can't believe I'm telling 15 year olds how the world works on /v/.
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>>317428873
>I studied about Japan during my elementary school years during the 90s, reading maps and such and watching animes that aired during that decade and knew they were from that nation.
And what was the point of that? It's all useless trivia.
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>>317428795
Yeah the merchandise will always sell, no one's arguing that. What I'm saying is that Star Wars burnout will set in, no matter how hard Disney tries to artificially keep the hype going years down the road.
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>>317428990
Best Buy is shit? You don't say.
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>Bad kitty, thinking you could compete with me outside your little island
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>>317428575
>Time they spend on franchises that don't meet expectations is time that could have been spent on other things that bring higher returns.
Yeah, but that really isn't time value of money.
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>>317429152

Possibly. Possibly not.

Star Wars has just become this... thing. This massive cultural beast that transcends all media, all criticism, all logic. I wouldn't be surprised if, thousands of years from now, its STILL a pop culture cornerstone.
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>>317429295
Yes it is. That's the dictionary definition. Employees working on flops like John Carter and the Lone Ranger are a waste of money. You pay for that time. What about that don't you understand?
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>>317424178
>>317424657
>XD
Fucking triggered.
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>>317429052
Not really trivia, Other elementary grade kids study about Japan and other nations and would know the difference between a US animated show and a JP animated show.

Think about it, these US companies that doesn't want kids to know its from Japan is literally blocking them from learing about Japan which sorta fucks with education.
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>>317428868
Lando isn't a fucking Jedi
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>>317429321
If you turn it into capeshit and pump out sequels and spinoffs into the aether, it will fizzle out. Nothing can sustain itself forever.

Star Wars built its hype over a slow burn period of decades. Once the fans finally get what they truly want, they won't want it anymore. They'll be tired of the 7th spinoff movie about Bib Fortuna.
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They really were pushing it pretty hard over in Japan. If there were ever anything Pokemon related, there'd be something Yokai Watch related nearby.

Pokemon Center? There'd be a Yokai Watch themed store nearby. Some street vendor selling Pokemon stuff? There'd be a similar vendor selling Yokai Watch stuff right next to it. Little Pokemon trinkets in a shitty souvenir shop? You can bet your ass there'd be shittly little Yokai watch trinkets right below them. At one of those weekly firework festivals they have in the Tokyo Bay during the summer, they had some fireworks going off shaped like Pikachu's head. They were followed by Jibanyan right after.

I decided to give it a shot to see if it lived up to the hype at all. It's O.K. There isn't a whole lot of plot going on, but there is definitely more dialogue. It feels very Japanese, from the convenient stores to those chirping crossing lights on the roads. The only real complaint I have is that the battle system isn't as engaging as Pokemon. There's some tactical planning about the placement of the Yokai on your team. how well their abilities work together, and when to execute some special moves. Sometimes it just sort of feels like you're sitting there watching the Yokai battle it out though because they do stuff automatically.

It's no Pokemon killer, I like Pokemon better. It's decent though, it'd be a shame if it completely flopped.
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>>317428873
They're trying to kill off weeaboo faggotry. Seems like a pretty admirable thing to me.
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>>317428960
i was waiting for this
instead i'm wondering why there are people in this thread saying nintendo didn't advertise it
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>>317426951
I'm an avid Zelda fan and even I had buyer's remorse from this garbage. It's shit.
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>>317424274
Kids do play those games. I do volunteer work at an elementary school. This kid would not shut up about CoD and Fallout 4
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>>317429602
Of course he did. He even did the trench run with Luke because he was such a good friend.
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Why is Pokemon so popular around the world?

It's furaffinity, isn't it?
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The 3DS eShop actually has an entire episode of the cartoon for viewing.

There's something weirdly desperate about that, to me.
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>>317429714
Not just weeaboo, they are killing off teaching kids about Japan and its culture.
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