It's dead Jim, expect it to go F2P next year alongside the announcement of XI for mobile being F2P too.
Never heard of this game before
Is it any good?
>>317262592
Yep, pretty much best MMO right now, at least better than wow for sure
>>317262796
is it?
what makes it the best mmo? sounds interesting
>>317262592
You've never heard of Final Fantasy 14? Why are you hear?
I enjoy the raiders butt hurt as I get 210 drops in Diadem.
>>317262250
lel
no
>>317263340
One more reason I don't bother trying to find a static. Spend all that time doing that stuff for them to replace it with the next raid tier and add equivalent gear in the next patch for lazy shitters like me.
>>317263340
>Look at all my secondaries stats, one of them is over 30 too.
I've been meaning to return to this game. I made a pugilist but didn't get very far during the trial period of 2.0. What are you guys' favorite jobs and why?
>>317262984
He shits up threads about console games while being generally clueless about vidya.
>>317264117
Monk because pinching stuff is always cool, Warrior because I like axes and White Mage because the AF armor is the iconic robes and I've always liked how they looked.
>>317264117
Black Mage because constant 4k damage drops get me hard
GOOD YEB YOSHEET
>>317262250
Not sure which rock you've lived under, but they refuse to go F2P, they'd rather kill the game than go that route.
There's a source out there somewhere
>>317264523
>Pinching stuff
Best typo, had a right laugh
>>317262592
fuck off trip
I couldn't keep on that treadmill even though I love FF and catboys.
It started to feel like a chore.
Talentless hack
One trick pony
Mad man
What other words describe Yoshida?
War of Emperium > Frontlines
get it together naoki
>>317264117
Paladin, because I want my heavy plate armour with sword & board, also supportive holy stuff.
Love what they did to the Paladin in the expansion, exactly what I wanted.
More combo finishers, buffs and the amazing support heal that works like fucking magic during hectic/panic situations when the healers are overwhelmed.
Although I am a bit jealous of the Warriors absurd damage output, at least in the early stages, fucking feel cleave crits at 10k+
>>317264865
Someone post the wildstar dev saying this for this newfag
>>317265154
The hero the genre deserves
but not the one it needs
>>317265140
This. I gave Heavensward a chance on the off chance they would actually change shit up, then quit after finishing the new main story stuff and Alexander normal when it became obvious it was gonna be the same old shit all over again, with less content this time. It's a shame because the game's presentation is top notch.
>>317264117
NIN for fast and WAR for {fell cleave}{fell cleave}{fell cleave}.
>>317265160
>2.0
>Frequent patches always featuring new content that adds to the previous
>New primals always just around the corner
>Intense, story driven raid content
>Keeps it fresh
>3.0
>One patch since release featuring scraps of content and replacing what endgame already existed
>Nothing to look forward to
>Void Ark and Alexander lack any kind of interesting plot hook
>But check it out you can grind this bland content ad nauseum to keep yourself occupied
>one shit RTS with no strategy involved except rush everything with a single minion that got abandoned day one
>one shit rehashed trial now featuring even more rehashed mechanics like divebombs, stack to mitigate damage and an electric fence that was beaten the second the patch hit
>shit rehashed hunts that are boring and mindless and can give the best gear
>two more shit boring expert dungeons
>one shitty 24 man raid that's even more boring and easy than any of the previous ones
>shitty dailies that take you all over the huge ass map and need an entire month to reach max rank, better stay subbed like a good goy if you want your shitty sky snake
>only 8 shitty story quests that are over in less than an hour and nothing relevant happens
>the devs took an entire month of vacation for this
>they waited 5 months for this patch
>this was supposed to save the expansion and the game
>ARR saves Squeenix from oblivion
>Squeenix reduce budget for the xiv team rather than putting more in
BRAVO
>Dive bomb icon in void ark first boss
>Doesn't actually dive bomb
>Does a completely different mechanic even though the game teaches you otherwise
Someone stop him.
>>317265462
Not that guy, but I'm mainly in it for the story, and the primal fights.
I just go through the new content and then take like a month or two break, and then come back when there's new stuff.
Can't keep up with constantly playing anymore.
>>317265160
always
its a good MMO but
>it's an MMO
so yeah
>>317262921
They fixed a lot of classic issues with mmos. Classes aren't restricted to 1 per character. It has really decent controller support for those who want it. It doesn't force you to grind through the early levels (I've gotten to level 32 of 60 just doing plot, and I've just unlocked a level 26 dungeon this way). And there's constant updtates of really interesting things, such as tie ins with ff11, and the Hildebrand quest line.
Golden saucer and tripple triad are pretty good too, if not a bit jewey.
WoW ran warcraft into the ground, where as ff14 is a celebration of final fantasy games. There are a ton of references all over the place (the island Kefka misaligned the 3 gods' statues in ff6 being one of the final areas, for example).
Presentation wise it's pretty great too. It's very aesthetically pleasing with a wonderful score. You can make some pretty nice waifus too.
>>317265678
From what I've seen the FFXIV team is in dire need of more devs and since FFXI team is done with the game they'll probably move them to FFXIV.
>>317265646
>Void Ark and Alexander lack any kind of interesting plot hook
Whoa. I'll agree about Alexander, but Void Ark actually seems like it could be setting up some interesting shit even if the actual raid was piss easy. Diabolos trying to bring the voidsent back has some potential.
>>317265160
>FF14 monks with Asura Strike
>>317265959
Asura Strike woulbe be the bees knees
>>317262921
Fights are fun, fates remove grinding, bosses and dungeons are interesting and unique in design (at least for the first chunk). Game looks great and has a really good ost.
I play a healer and I'm having a lot more fun than in any other mmo. Switching between damage and heals, while dealing with additional mechanics during a bossfight is a blast.
>>317265847
They need more throwback dungeons from other FF games like crystal tower that gives you gear from the games/concept art.
I'm a real sucker for that shit, here's hoping that by the end of void ark we'll get to fight fucking tree man Exdeath himself.
>>317265939
This. I wish the hardcore raids took actually place in the Void Ark. Alexander's story isn't near as interesting as the Coil's...for the moment at least.
>>317265939
>Diabolos trying to bring the voidsent back has some potential
literally world of darkness 2
can't wait to travel to the void of darkness to fight another cloud of darkness and save nero
Its fun for what it is but it does get boring with 3 month gaps for more content.
Reminded 3.1's barebones content has go to keep you going for 3 months.
Think about that for a moment.
Hope you have other games to play, XIV fags might even wanna try out the single player FF games for once.
Please bully.
>>317266250
lel I'm an ex-wow player senpai, 3.1's content is a feast by all comparisons
>it's dead
>>317266250
Isn't it rumored relics coming in December?
>Promised Musketeer for years
>An entire building is dedicated to them in Limsa Lominsa
>Their lore is expanded upon by dialogue, quests and inspectables
>Get "Machinist" instead
>Thousands of players lobby on the forums for months urging the developers to include Samurai in their future content
>Entire class mechanics are constructed for the developers, with dozens of varied abilities that they could have handpicked from
>Get "Dark Knight" instead
The creative department for this game is literally deviantart tier. A Real Reborn was bad enough, but Heavensward is the final nail in the coffin.
>>317266250
I suggest the XV demo.
>>317263887
Not him but a few days after getting my gobtwine and upgrading my 200 chest, i found a different chest part.
It has MORE crit, it HAS det, and it HAS skill speed. It's about i215 is stat values. They can get pretty silly.
Anyone play on ps4, is it fun?
>>317266250
it's the same as always
patch hits, play for 2 weeeks, cancel sub and wait for the next patch.
>>317265396
isn't ff 11 STILL a monthly fee?
And why would the most played mmo on the market go f2p now of all times?
>>317266449
>FFXIV's entire endgame has less content than one WoD raid
>>317266669
I've played it since the beta came to ps4. It play great.
>>317266578
Dark Knights are a final fantasy thing man.
>>317266669
Lot of fun on ps4
What the fuck were they thinking with this cross class horse shit
Why force the player to play as a class they don't like to get skills that are required to make some classes even work properly
>>317266690
The proper XI game will still be a subscription even on mobile. There's a XI spin off game that'll F2P though, I think.
>>317262592
>>317262921
>people not knowing who nep is
>>317266773
And they made them into a faggot tank for gays
>>317266720
That is a lie
>>317266690
>FFXIV
>most played MMO on the market
>>317266796
It more designed to get you to try another class to see if you might like it, that way you arn't restricted and feel bored if you are.
>>317262592
It's pretty obscure man, don't feel bad.
Void and the new dungeons are decent, but the really need to take another look at the diadem. It's expected for players to find the optimal spot for good gear and specifically farm there. But it devolved into killing dinos in one spot for 1 and a half hours way too fast.
/groupose is neat.
There's also the new Dissidia.
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>>317266879
Oh I'm sorry please direct me to the actual most currently played game, and I mean played not most subs that dont play.
>>317265379
>warriors absurd damage
>drks can pull the same dps
>>317262921
It's actually visually appealing rather than being a shitty middle school modeling attempt like WOW or Wildstar.
>>317266773
So are Samurai. It doesn't change the fact that literally nobody was asking for Dark Knight and thousands of players were asking for Samurai.
They don't care about their subscribers at all.
>>317266796
it's from the original design, where you wehre supossed to level all classes, then select 10 skills for your hotbar, put on whatever weapon/armor you liked and be your own custom class.
Ofc it was imbalanced and everyone where self healing life-absorbing walking nukes thaumaturges in full plate armor.
>>317266826
>People paying attention to tripfags
No anon, you are the cancer
>>317266898
But he is right
>>317266898
The dumbest shit is that most people get yelled at for NOT doing DPS as a healer
>>317266720
>muh endgame
It's easy to compare the entirety of WoD's content to a fraction of FFXIV's.
Don't tell me WoW does anything else than PvE content.
Even FFXIV who has an arguably shitty PvP added a new battleground with the expansion. Meanwhile WoW players are still begging for new PvP content since MoP.
>>317266874
>two dungeons with 3 bosses each
>one 24-man 'raid' with four bosses
>one 8-man proper raid with four bosses in two difficulties
>and one 8-man primal fight that's worth doing
>vs a 13 boss raid with 3 difficulties
It's objective truth.
>>317267020
Not the same, just slightly less thanks to berserk.
>>317266845
And yet lore-wise the FFXIV are a million times more interesting than the FFXI ones and make it look completely natural that they should be tanks despite what a bunch of crotchety MUH OLD CONVENTIONS THAT WERE ONLY IN ONE GAME faggots think.
I always notice ff14 threads are guaranteed 400+ replies. Don't you people even play your game?
>>317267062
I'll take unique and original over tried and true every day of the week.
>>317267026
>>317267026
>Nobody was asking for Dark Knight
Youre so delusional it hurts. Normies play this game more than anyone. They fucking love the edge that is DRK and love having Greatswords.
>>317266747
Do you have a keyboard as well or something?
>>317267121
>the entirety of WoD
Just the HFC patch has more relevant content than Heavensward, if you don't count the main story, which is really the only reason to play FFXIV over WoW anyway.
>>317267198
Watching WoWfags get butthurt is part of FF14's content.
>>317267230
I miss tanaka too, but the original game was broken and unfinished, it's a pity we'll never get to experience tanaka's full vision.
>>317267261
You can for ease of chat or if you're used to one. But I don't
>>317267082
Scholars are expected to dps but I usually don't care when white mages dont
>>317267198
Great way to kill queue times desu senpai
>>317267245
>mfw I painted my DRK up in the brightest most holiest gear I can get my hands on and use a regular looking zweihander glamour instead of a Guts-tier slab
i love this shit
When can I be a lewd cat dancer class in XIV?
>>317267062
My buddie still has weathered plate gear that can be worn by mages. He glamors his cloths to look like that.
>>317267121
They made a huge mistake focusing on mass pvp. Seal rock plays So much better with one alliance.
>>317266640
DET is useless since heavensward.
>>317267412
Heh nice, got an image on hand? I hope youre using pure white dye or metallic gold.
>>317267428
There are already multiple dances.
>>317266578
If Ninja hadn't come first in 2.3, we might have gotten Samurai. But just because it isn't here now doesn't mean it won't be later. I'm pretty sure no one was expecting Dark Knight or Astrologian when they were revealed.
>>317267121
Yeah because XIV's non PVE content is fully populated and doesn't get abandoned the second it hits, wasting resources and money creating shitty content that no one even bothers with.
Oh wait.
>>317264865
Nah they will. It kinda shows with how much they're stocking the cash shop, something of a backup for when they finally go f2p
>>317267026
>>317267245
So far we're only lacking Red Mage.
>SAM wasn't even on the list
>>317267470
Not exactly. 10 det is one mainstat (just about anyway)
That means that if a piece of gear has enough det, it's worth more than skill speed.
Nothing lives up to crit though.
>>317267470
This is what casuals ACTUALLY believe?
Holy shit.
>>317262250
this ps2 game has always been dead and only played by weeb neets with too much time on their hands.
>>317267548
They just need to make it to register when not in the saucer. Also has anyone had long fucking queues since 3.1?
>>317267368
His vision will be missed.
>>317267296
>relevant content
There we go again.
Are you talking about the content that 1% of the playerbase cares about?
Because from what I've learned catering to 1% of the playerbase isn't the best way to rack up sub numbers.
>>317267062
>lancer could stab 2 or more enemies if they where in a row
>different arrows had different effects
>you gained experience while fighting the monsters, not just after killing them
>monster AI that coudl really fuck you up
>dangerous open world
>player driven economy
>gear was crafted and not dropped
>could start as a crafter and never kill a mob and still get to max level and see the story
>stats mattered because they where shared among classes because the pysical level was unique
Tanaka really had the right ideas, it's a fucking pity he never got to finish the game.
>>317267612
iirc SAM was already confirmed DPS when it's in the game, and it was hinted at during their anniversary event.
>>317267548
>Yeah because XIV's non PVE content is fully populated and doesn't get abandoned the second it hits
Exactly. 3.1 was a mediocre pile of garbage with this stupid mini game. Two new dungeons, one casual crystal tower raid, 1 primal, and 1 hunt like game. It's bleh.
>>317267673
there's something wonky with roulettes
>>317266898
>censoring his name
that shitter deserves any harassment he can get
>>317267470
Are you retarded? The 41 det on it means it has 4 more mainstat than the esoteric 210 chest. Thats about 5 ilvls worth of mainstat
Stop eating up whatever shit you read on reddit.
>>317267412
Too bad that completely clashes with all your edgy dark magic animations.
>>317267717
Relevant content is content that progresses your character to the furthest it can be at that moment. Diadem is relevant content, Void Ark is welfare catch up content. The game needs more of the former and difficulty has nothing to do with relevancy.
Y'all aren't all MMO faggets that never play FF, right?
Everyone here has or is planning on getting a PS4/X1 to play XV baka desu senpai, right?
>>317267990
I'm playing FFXII while I wait for queues
>>317267941
Void Ark isnt exactly catch up content. It is for some people, but if youre gearing up alt classes or got really unlucky with drops, it has some pretty good BiS 200 gear for some classes.
>>317267785
>one casual crystal tower raid
And randoms still fuck it up.
>>317267673
>>317267804
I'm not 100% sure how the instance systems work in regards to server space, but it seems like once a party is matched, most of the time they wait for a tank to complete it. But in order for that party so stay matched, they have to reserve an instance on the server. So my tank friends get instantly queue'd like normal, but for the rest of us it takes much longer because now there's a line to even save a spot to wait for a tank
>>317267990
I'll play XV onmy PC
I only ever play this game when I'm really thirsty.
>>317268071
The weekly upgrade item als makes it somewhat relevant.
>>317267941
Why then is almost everyone on my server geared with ilvl 190/200 items? If the players care about the "relevant" content so much the majority of players should have ilvl 210 gear by now.
>>317268143
It probably will release on steam. I wouldn't be surprised if they announce it at the 'big event' in March.
I was playing as a lv 32 WHM the other day with a just a couple hundred exp to 33, so I went out to the field to cap it off, but got 0 exp from random monsters. What happened? Do you only get exp from monsters close to your level? Some exp cap I don't know about? I was playing on a friend's computer right before it and did a dungeon, don't know if that has anything to do with it.
>>317265862
I'm all for this as long as they keep their shitty asian-tier grinds in ff11 where they belong
>>317267757
The thing I miss the most are the cat ass and hips...
>>317268256
Casuals will be casuals, the majority of the game is full of casuals who never run anything except their roulettes and then log off or ERP like faggots, especially on shittier servers.
Diadem, while being the casualfest it is, is boring as fuck and I know a lot of people who tried it never want to go back despite giving free 210 gear every hour and a half. Besides it's not like the game needs 210 for anything except Savage.
The game still needs relevant content despite this.
>>317268406
open world is dead jim
>>317268575
>playing anything but Highlander
>>317265862
>FFXI team
All 10 of them?
>>317268406
>Do you only get exp from monsters close to your level?
Yes
>>317268575
Textures were just so much better and immersive in 1.0. But the game would not have survived any longer then it already had. If they tried to salvage the crystal engine, it would have spelled disaster for SE. Not to mention there would be NO WAY SE could fulfill their obligation to Sony for a PS3 release.
>>317262250
FFXI has been dead for years and it still charges a fucking monthly sub. They will keep the sub fee until it's not worth the cost of upkeeping the servers (AKA when literally 10 people are left on all servers)
I'm playing as a dark knight now because I never tried tanking
Do I need any cross class skills
>>317268256
current content is so fucking easy that you can clear it with an entire team of 190s assuming it's not a pug
this includes savage content up to a3s and thordan ballad
>>317268721
>>317268830
Only once you hit 50 or so.
>>317268721
they'll probably bump up textures with 4.0 when they drop PS3 support
Can't believe I fell for the heavensward shilling.
>>317268830
Get Provoke
The rest is not as important
>>317268830
Provoke is mandatory for any fight that requires tank swaps.
>>317268830
Provoke and convalescence
>>317268891
>>317267757
>could start as a crafter and never kill a mob and still get to max level and see the story
That sounds like the most boring video game in the universe
>XI for mobile
what. How would that even work?
>>317269034
not if you like crafting and economy games.
>>317268923
They were supposed to increase the textures with the DX11 client. Then Yoshi said that nobody actually cares about textures so it wasn't worth the work and they'd just be changing the lighting.
>>317267548
TFW I'm still 20 wins off the achievement for the title and I've chased my entire server away.
>>317268830
http://www.ffxivinfo.com/job/dark-knight.php
>>317269106
Not in 1.0. Any combat situation could be solved with a minigame called Parley, which was supposed to symbolize your character debating the enemy and talking them down.
Why can't we use the DOF effect in /icam in regular gameplay?
I like ffxiv despite not liking MMOs. I just play it as a single player game that occasionaly has updates to the storyline, and it's pretty fun. Then again i'm aware that i'm doing it wrong. It would be a shame to see it die.
>>317268830
Provoke is mandatory for endgame fights
Convalescence is a must have since it makes healing effects more potent on yourself.
Mercy Stroke is free damage/heal so you should definitely pick it up
Bloothbath gives a nice lifesteal effect that synergizes with your Souleater combo
Foresight/Awareness is optional but nice to have.
>>317269303
no, you are doing it exactly a it has been designed.
>>317268830
Provoke, Convalescence are must haves
Awareness synergyzes well with Dark Dance + Shadowskin for big pulls
Bloodbath is good for that extra hp
anything else is personal preference
>>317269023
No wonder it looked way beyond it's time, and the animations where godlike.
>shitty generic themepark endgame
its so odd that this dog shit is still the norm, like not one bit of complexity, all mmos just grind dungeons for tokens then walk up to vendor like its a fucking arcade prize booth and buy the gear you want
so boring, so lame, so generic. wish developers would try something different, wish the shitty mmo playerbases would demand more.
i mean like, fucking anything is better than this. and im amazed wow is still strong when they will have 0 content updates for a year+ and the same 10 million retards will be sitting there playing the same generic themepark grind
>>317269303
I just treat it as a Final Fantasy game with co-op, it does a nice job at it. I think the combat system at level 60 is better than any other mainline Final Fantasy game released today.
nice backs
>>317269682
>i mean like, fucking anything is better than this
Yeah, I guess games like CoD or Monster Hunter releasing the same game with the same assets every year is better.
>>317269673
Mercy Strike for your 5th>>317268830
>>317269763
>so many people bought minfilia outfit
>>317269981
I haven't seen a single lalafilia yet...
>>317269682
>not one bit of complexity
this is the west's fault not yoshi's
any time he makes content that doesn't require a slight bit of handholding, the playerbase begs him to dumb it down
Steps of Faith is probably one of the best examples of this
More of these?
>>317269981
>cats and lizards who bought minfilia's outfit
>their tails block the ass window
What's even the point?
Also, anyone who buys Yda's costume is retarded. Can't you make it yourself by glamouring normal items in-game?
>>317269534
But aren't MMOs all about the end game raiding and being in-game all the time, hence why FFXIV fails?
>>317268830
play warrior instead
watch your dps get salty as fuck when you outparse them
>>317269896
cod releases new assets
you're paying monthly fees for the most generic endgame possible
>>317270391
>But aren't MMOs all about the end game raiding
The sad part is that people really believe this shit. MMOs are fucked.
>>317270352
Monks can't equip the plate boots and you won't have the aether specs thingie.
>>317269682
SE tryed, but released XIV unfinished, the company almost went bankrupt and when they remade their game they acually needed to earn some dosh.
Also blame all the fucking lightning games on the XIV debacle.
>>317270148
aw but I like Haymaker
>>317270642
The toadskin greaves would make a good sub for the boots if you dyed them red.
>>317270642
>knock off Yda
What a scrub.
>>317270824
Terrible
>>317270148
>have to B4B after the 2nd snap punch because the dragoon instantly casts battle litany
fuck, just wait ONE more CD fuck you rat bastard, same issue as other classes let me get hot shot up fuck
>>317270391
That's the problem, people liked RPG's for the story, the level up and getting stronger on the way to defeat a great evil and save the world.
RPG's aren't fun on the endgame, they are fun on the way there, so designing a RPG (multiplayer or not) focusing purely on the endgame is plain retarded, and I don't understand why developers keep doing this shit over and over.Well yeah it's cheaper and easier.
>>317270879
>he doesn't get the feral meme
Why couldn't this game manage to stay relevant for more than a year?
Why are MMOs such a dead fucking genre?
>>317270824
It really only made sense for druids
>>317271256
Because they keep putting hacks in charge of them.
>>317271256
>Tanaka with Sakaguchi create the most memorable MMO ever in FFXI
>SE fires Sakaguchi after the Spirits Within fiasco
>Wada takes over the company
>fucks SE for over 10 years
>Tanaka is creating the successor of FFXI with really interesting ideas >>317267757
>Wada forces him to cut corners and outsources the development to china
>Wada wants to beat WoW with FFXIV
>Make them release the game in a beta state when every beta tester clearly stated that the game was unfinished and felt clearly incomplete
>Almost crash and burns the whole company
>Again
>Fire Tanaka and puts a westabo in charge
>The westabo created a WoW clone shit game.
>Wada retires as the savor of SE
I'm so fucking glad Wada left the CEO position finally.
>>317272141
Don't forget, DQX never ever in the west.
>>317269303
This type of play-style is perfect for FFXIV, with one exception. When players like this try to step into arenas where working with other people is mandatory, or making sure you're pulling your weight with DPS/heals/tanking is a MUST - its really frustrating.
If you want to play by yourself, thats fine. There are plenty of things for you to do and accomplish that can be done solo that don't require a deep understanding of the game. Just don't join a Ravana EX as a solo queue and expect to complete it if you're shit and used to easy things that you can solo.
>>317262250
It's not "dead". It will never go "F2P". The mobile ver. of FFXI's name is FF Grandmasters (i play it), and it's along the lines of FF Record Keeper (i play it).
>>317272389
>>317271256
look at the thumbnail of this screenshot and tell me from what game it is.
This is what is wrong with MMOs
>>317272474
I don't do anything on Extreme. I don't give a shit about getting the best gear since it doesn't fit with my "constantly-updating single-player" playstyle. I did farm the autism-inducing Zeta but exclusively because Longinus looks cool.
>>317271256
Endgameraidfags ruin everything for everyone. If the mentality of "endgame is all that matters" didn't exist many MMOs would've been sucessful when they are presently not.
>>317262921
Nothing. It's a crappy industry standard (meaning wow clone) MMORPG that can't get some things that WoW - and even FFXI - did right a decade ago.
>>317272730
Thats fine, and grats on your Zeta, I know that shit is super fucking annoying to get done.
I can't tell you how many fucking morons I see in EXs. I thought "don't stand in the fire" and "lol dragoon" were just fucking memes until I started to farm Ravana. Every time I tell someone to uninstall, I actually fucking mean it.
>>317272689
look at the thumbnail of this screenshot and tell me from what game it is.
This is what is wrong with fighting games
>>317272389
maybe if VII and VIII 3DS sell
>>317272141
Don't forget
>anyone could have been put in charge after Tanaka left, Yoshida was just one of the safest and cheapest bets, coming from DQX which had solid direction from Horii
>more than half of the updates during 1.0's lifetime were already half way done during Tanaka's time, all Yoshida did was give them time to finish shit, because Wada himself gave him the time
>none of his ideas except his shit job system, the original Moggle Mog fight and parts of the 7th era storyline were implemented into 1.0, and even Dalamud and the Moon were part of the original planned story.
>he got all the credit and reputation of saving 1.0 despite doing jackshit
>he's now the sole face of XIV despite being a big hack
>>317272689
is that Chinese WoW?
>>317273002
you are absolutely right, fighting games are the same shit as MMO's and FPS.
>>317272689
even if I maximize it it could be any of the WOW clones, but I don't know which one.
>>317272689
looks like Rift
>>317272689
This is such a blatant WoW clone it hurts. I would believe it was just WoW is a lot of mods.
Who /levi/ here
>>317272689
I recognize that it's RIFT right away but people who don't spend time with MMOs would probably not know. It really does just look like knockoff WoW.
Every time I play an MMO on my PC and someone who's unfamiliar with these games sees me playing, they ask "is that World of Warcraft?"
>>317268146
Who are you and why do you have a picture of me
>>317273056
>Dalamud
the rest is true, but this isn't, yoshi watched wow cataclysm and wanted to do the same thing but more epic.
Also, most of heavensward was already planned, the aiship construction and exploration etc...
But it was planned on a different way, as crafters doing parties and makign bigger shit.
>mfw they had naval battles and boarding parties planned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cW56J8Gc5A
>>317273002
blazblu i bet
and i don't even play fighters
>Go into the most populated NA XI server
>1k-1.2k on usually
>>317270148
>trying to make this shit seem complicated
kekerino
>>317273534
>They had these things planned
Thats the thing that i'm hating right now, they have 3+ years of content already planned but they give us shit that we don't want and give us tiny trickles of content. 3.1 is a fucking joke.
>>317269682
>same 10 million retards
Down to 5.8 or whatever now.
>>317265646
this is why I never rush story content once you hit endgame your just glam jamming
>>317273761
>enjoyed leveling from 1-75 immensely
>quit around Aht Urghan
>return shortly after abyssea
>mfw
>>317273764
It's the most straightforward rotation picture you could find. Get some neurons for fuck's sake.
>>317262984
>hear
>>317274056
>go get a brian morans
If you honestly need a flowchart to tell you to use cooldowns on cooldowns and use potions and shit, you need to get a whole set of nurans, morans.
>>317270148
Post 60 warrior please
>>317274138
>If you honestly need a flowchart to tell you to use cooldowns on cooldowns and use potions and shit, you need to get a whole set of nurans, morans.
I'm not the one finding a simple flowchart complicated m8.
>>317273761
Yeah, it came as a shock to me too when there was no one in the usual partying areas. At least /ffg/ made a Linkshell so now I feel less lonely.
>>317273534
>>317273816
They should have kept Tanaka and give him the same support and resources to finish his game, instead of making him release early and outsourcing the development.
The only thing Yoshi did right was replacing the game engine, but he won't even deliver the same or even visually similar graphics as 1.0 version.
>>317274226
It's just a 2000x2000 image with the Fell Cleave icon blown out on it.
>>317274392
>Warriors who don't keep Eye of the Storm up
>>317273534
Not the moon falling, but Dalamud being the moon's hound was part of the original plans including the moon itself, he just made it fall. No one knows the exact plans, but a catastrophe of some sort was also already planned as evidenced by the falling meteors in the opening cutscenes, obviously not involving Dalamud at first.
Hamlet and both types of companies were planned during Tanaka's time too, except free companies didn't make it until 2.0. They also mentioned plans for Hamlet like content against the "dragon horde" in Ishgard for 2.0, it's 3.1 and it's nowhere to be found.
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>>317273056
If I had one wish, it would be to go back in time and stop them from making Spirits Within and instead focus all resources on their game development. That way those two would never be fired and Squaresoft would still be around.
>>317274329
I said they're "trying" to make it look complicated by putting all that shit in different sections.
I didn't say it was complicated. I'm saying they explain a lot of things you should already know by 60 so that a newcomer that reads this thinks 'wow so many word! so many thing, wow' when MNK is an easy DPS.
>>317262250
Shouldn't have been called XIV, fuck you SE.
>>317265847
A major thing that these posts miss is, everything is shallow. The gameplay and rotations? Shallow. The fights and gearing process? Shallow. Jesus the gear itself the only reward in the game? You guessed it, shallow. One of the things people enjoyed, crafting, has become entirely useless.
It's a competent WoW-clone in an FF skin. It's strength is it's mediocrity. But HW hasn't done enough to justify the reset, and that's why people left and won't come back.
>FFXI final Rhapsody credits
>see thisYoshida is the one overseeing the talks with Nexon for the mobile portenjoy your cash shop.
>>317275068
And I think you're just a paranoid fuck who is convinced that absolutely everything the community does (including helpful flowcharts) is an attempt to advertise the game to poor unsuspecting gamurs.
>>317275454
It's not like the cash shop matters if I just don't look at it. Plus the cash shop wouldn't be that bad if the prices were one fifth of their current cost, or if they didn't lock previous years' event items behind i-OH FUCK
>>317274391
Tanaka was the hero we needed. It's not his fault he was forced to use the shitty FFXIII engine ;-;
>>317275249
Just because mommy doesn't let you use her credit card doesn't mean the FFMMOS are bad
>>317275424
That's the problem, they tried to change that shallowness with 1.0 but due to being forced by that hack Wada to release the game before it was finished, it was met with horrible reception.
There was so much more to the combat system alone, like the weapon skill chaining.
If you set up...I think it was called a regiment, by selecting the icon to the left of your action bar, used your attack then wait for your companions to select their attacks you would add debuffs from the chain you did to monsters, or break off pieces of them. Like if you had a Marauder use their skull smash attack and a pugilst chain with haymaker you could knock the skull off of a skeleton mob, making him unable to use his Death Scyth attack because he couldn't aim anymore. Also making him drop Skull Eyepatch headgear.
>>317275249
It's one of the best Final Fantasy games. Easily the second the best since the PS2 era only behind FFXII.
![[HorribleSubs] YuruYuri S3 - 05 [720p].mkv_snapshot_07.56_[2015.11.13_22.25.14].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/COANZDB.jpg "[HorribleSubs] YuruYuri S3 - 05 [720p].mkv_snapshot_07.56_[2015.11.13_22.25.14].jpg")
>mfw doing diadem
This is physically draining.
Why do we have to lose 5 minutes looking for currents too? Fuck you.
>>317276114
that's not really an achievement considering it's the only non-XIII game since the PS2 era
>>317276114
>one of the best
It's just a shit WoW reskin. It's only seen as "good" because the entire XIII series was such a big pile of shit and the spinoffs have also been shit for years. It's down there with FF2 and FF8.
>>317275654
Wanted Not-Lucina's outfit from the XI collab so you can pretend to be a SAM? Fuck you pay money
>>317272534
>The mobile ver. of FFXI's name is FF Grandmasters
There's 2 games, dipshit
>>317275981
There were a lot of fundamental problems with 1.0. But SE's development didn't find a happy medium between 1.0's extreme to the bare minimal extreme we're currently in. They just kinda flipped the switch and went about their business.
>>317276257
You're forgetting dimensions, explorers, record keeper, 4 heroes of light, theatrhythm, type-0, all the bravest.
>>317276486
Oh no, I'm not disagreeing at all with the amount of issues the original game had. I just wish they had kept the combat as that was the best part of it I personally believe.
>>317276447
What? Isn't the SAM outfit the reward for finishing the questline?because I'm pretty sure it is considering the headband has become standard glamour on my character
>>317276702
Too bad you can't dye it.
I want to be snake
>>317276902dyeable version comes in 4.0 with SAMor 5.0whenever the Doman expansion is
>>317276902
It'll be dyeableonce it hits the cash shop.
>>317269170
Transfer to another one where no one knows you?
>>317276351
Why does everyone of these threads have to have some XTREEEME counter shill?
No one takes you seriously when go to these lengths with hyperbole. This is the same reason no one takes Gavin Mcinnis seriously.
>>317276257
That doesn't mean it's automatically a bad game.
>>317275036
I hear you man, I hear you.
>>317265959
I just want then to give me an equivalent to throw spirit sphere and maybe a quick way to get 5 chakra in one go. God I just want monk to become RO monk.
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>>317277069
no, I like it myself, just the endgame is a little weak right nowand playing ROG/NIN first spoiled me on job quests
>>317277069
It's not hyperbole when it's true. If people want a decent WoW clone, then FFXIV is perfect for them. If people want a good Final Fantasy, then they'll play FFXI.
