This game is so good /v/ like really good. I would even go so far as to say it's Sega Genesis Sonic era good. Do you agree? Why has Sega gone full retard and haven't continue to make games like Sonic Generations. Instead we get that mediocre mess known as Sonic Lost World and don't even get me started on Sonic Boom (I know Sonic Team didn't make it but Sega still signed off on it)
I just want my favorite childhood video game series to be great again. That's all I ask
>This game is so good /v/ like really good
It's decent
>Sega Genesis Sonic era good
No, the physics/momentum is shit.
Yea I know the feeling. I loved Generations. Not Genesis era I'd say but close, certainly Sonic's best 3D outing to date. The fan service and the nostalgia was just incredible. Also that soundtrack (pic related).
When it's good, it's really fucking great (Rooftop Run Modern is one of the most perfect platformer levels in recent memory), but it's like half a good game where there's these shitty boss and 2D levels that have no flow. Plus, they really need to kill some of the crazy amount of moves Sonic gets, a lot of it feels very superfluous.
>>316829773
>No, the physics/momentum is shit.
This is the most half-assed criticism to the game ever. It has two very different types of gameplay that works very well together and it is extremely close to Genesis era Sonic games. The only problem with this game is the autism of all the Sonic fans.
>>316828909
No it's not
Classic Stages play nothing like the Genesis Games
Modern Stages are just Unleashed Day Time Bullshit that I didn't like in Unleashed so I don't like them here either
It's a rental game at best because it has some awesome fanservice but that's about it
>>316829856
God I hate that Chibi design
That's not how Classic Metal Sonic looked at all
>>316829856
Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6a6su4Do9c
But yeah the game is great, I love it
I recently played this game a few days ago and I really agree that it's the most fun I've had out of a sonic game since adventure 2. My only big complaint is some of the level design punishes you for using boosts by making you miss springs and plummet to your death and some levels are kinda mediocre while others are great.
>>316830056
>and it is extremely close to Genesis era Sonic games
It's not you fucking faggot
It plays nothing like them
There's no Spamdash in the classics
And the roll is completely broken in Generations
The way he jumps is not correct
The level design is average at best...and at it's worst it's utter shit(Classic Planet Wisp was absolute dogshit)
The only issues I had with the game was some parts of Modern Chemical Plant Zone were pretty bad in the framerate department and I fucking hate Wisps.
They were alright in Colors but get that shit outta Generations.
>>316830150
He looked exactly like that though. I mean he doesn't now, but Modern Metal Sonic looks a bit derpy sometimes IMO.
>>316829856
>Fan service and nostalgia
Sonic Generations is the perfect example of fanservice and nostalgia done absolutely right. It's the little small details that I love so much about it
>Sonic clears Green Hill Zone from Sonic 1
>Sonic: "Is it just me or was that place awfully familiar"
>Tails: "Not to me"
That's so subtle it's perfect
Also, my other favorite one
>Classic Tails: "Dr. Robotnik!"
>Classic Eggman: "Nobody calls me that anymore"
>>316828909
I completely agree. Would definitely put it on a top 5 Sonic list.
Classic Sonic was great. Not Genesis good but still good enough that it was a blast to play unlike Sonic 4. Also the level design is really great. Sky Sanctuary Classic has a lot of alternate paths and I love finding hidden invincibility monitors, reminds me of old game design.
Modern Sonic is great too because they perfected his Unleashed formula. Lots of platforming in every stage while still going fast, drift controls that don't suck.
It's just an all-around well designed game excluding Time Eater.
>>316830538
That's the original concept art
This is the final official artwork(pic related)
And in Sonic CD(in-game) he definitely didn't have the chibi design
Again, a nice IP destroyed by nostalgia faggots.
Generations put EVERYTHING that the old fans asked into the game, and did even more. They update the game for a modern game design viewpoint without abandoning the old formula.
But we still have faggots saying that sonic jumps strange and any small change in the gameplay is raping their childhoods.
>>316828909
i really liked it for what it was, but it's more akin to how you would like a party game
>>316828909
it's a 7/10, no more no less.
It relies too heavily on the boost mechanic to cover up the horribly imprecise controls and the level design for classic sonic was boring.
I won't even mention the final boss.
>>316830553
Yeah except Generations tries so fucking hard to push the "Classic Sonic is Modern Sonic when he was a kid" narrative which is absolute bullshit since they're both the same age(15)
>>316830958
Such a shame too. Id love to see an expansion pack or a sequel to generations.
Thank god for modders I guess.
>>316830518
>and I fucking hate Wisps.
>They were alright in Colors but get that shit outta Generations.
you couldn't fucking handle them for one fucking level? Are you an infant?
>>316830632
>Generations
>In top 5
That's shit-tier taste nigga
If you don't have the following games in your top 5
>Sonic 1
>Sonic 2
>Sonic 3&K
>Sonic CD
>Sonic Advance 1
Don't even try
>>316828909
colors was better OP
if you haven't tried it, go get a wii and start cracking.
>>316830958
Fuck off you fucking idiot
You don't know shit about gameplay you underage adventurefaggot
Generations is just a shallow ploy to attract old fans
It plays nothing like the classics
I wish you fucking idiots would fuck off
I didn't love the bosses but it's possibly my favorite game ever.
The sub bosses (Metal, Shadow, and Silver) were fun enough though. Kinda wish Metal remained as a race though
NO CHAO GARDEN NO BUY
>>316830958
This, it's hard to appreciate good games like Generations because parts of the fanbase are so fucking awful
>>316831250
>1
>CD
top kek m8
Real Top 5
>Sonic 3 & Knux
>Sonic 2
>Generations
>Advance 1
>Rush
>>316831185
I mean I beat the game and went back and did a ton of the extra stuff too, so obviously I could handle it. Just saying the level was better back in the nature part than the wisp heavy industrial part.
I don't know how me commenting on Wisps being the worst part of the game makes me an infant anon.
>>316828909
its easily the best platformer of last gen
>>316831250
I'd say many of those are debatable. IMO, Sonic CD doesn't exactly adhere to everyone's tastes, Sonic 1 is good but barebones compared to 2 and 3K, and Sonic Advance 1 is kinda like what Sonic 4 was but it played better. That and it looked pretty fugly. Generations is my 3rd favorite I'd say, after S3k and Sonic 2.
>>316831389
Ok calm down there edge lord.
>>316831583
>Rush
Ehh, no. That was garbage.
>>316831617
that's not rayman origins
I respectfully disagree.
This game fools everyone that plays it because it reminds you of much better sonic games that play better than presented here with better physics and MUCH better platforming, but because you get to play levels from different games, you're constantly distracted by the content variety
It's like if you buy a greatest hits album but every song on the album is a live cover of that song by another band
The one thing the game does very well is it lets you go fast, but that was never what made the games good in the first place. Going fast differentiated sonic from the other platformers, but what actually made the games good were solid platforming, variable level design, and multiple level paths. It comes closer than other 3D installments but still somewhat fails on all 3 of those core areas.
The platforming is pretty much non existent, even in 2D mode, and that's largely because the physics are too floaty. The variable level design is also not here, and you would think it would be because they're taking levels from different games, but all to many times they take the same kind of level from many games. For instance, we have Green Hill, Seaside Hill, AND Planet Whisp in this game, that's a third of the game being the grassy introish stage type. This problem could be ammended with DLC, strangely this game is without it (though there is community modding). Lastly, there's next to no multiple level paths. It's a straight shot of mostly boost to win towards the end of each level, and that kills the replayability.
I don't like the 1-10 scale because of how it's usually interpreted but since that's the only scale /v/ understands I'll bite the bullet
This game is for myself, an avid sonic fan since the genesis days, a 5/10. It's alright, and certainly not a "bad" game, but they still have yet to get sonic in 3D right, and at this point I'm not sure they ever will
Thanks for reading my shit blog. I'm gonna go play some Sonic 3D Blast
>>316831634
>Sonic 1 is barebones
Fuck off...it's a great game
>Sonic Advance 1 is like Sonic 4
Literally kill yourself
Sonic Advance 1 is NOTHING like Sonic 4
It's the closest we got to a REAL Sonic 4
The physics and the level design are far better there than in GenShit
They're much closer to the quality of the old games(and that's because a lot of the old Sonic Team staff including Naka were involved in it)
Generations has literally become a meme game at this point
It's not good
I'd rather play Adventure 1/2's Sonic Stages at least those control decent enough unlike the terrible autopilot bullshit of the Boost Gameplay Style
>>316832218
>The platforming is pretty much non existent
Stopped reading right there. You don't even know shit about what you're talking about. No one that has played Unleashed and then Generations would ever take that statement seriously.
>>316832341
The game HAS platforming, but compared to the genesis era, it's pretty much boost-to-win.
>>316832218
It fools people because they're literally retards who don't know what good gameplay is and what made Sonic so good in the first place
The only good thing about Generations is all the fanservice
>>316832341
>Unleashed
>Literally Boost to Win
>Platforming relegated to the Werehog Stages
Get the fuck out
>>316832218
/thread
>>316832336
Did you read my post? I was comparing Sonic 1 to 2 and 3K, so in comparison to those it's barebones. Not saying Sonic Advance was garbage either, but it was similar to Sonic 4 in that it took nostalgia tropes and slapped em together to make some Sonic 1/2 hybrid. It plays well though.
I realize Generations also takes nostalgia tropes, but the difference is that was the point.
For the most part I like the older games better, absolutely. Jesus some of you classic fans are so bitter. I mean there's a lot of Sonic that's shit, that's impossible to deny, but the Classic era wasn't perfect either (Tails SkyPatrol, Chaotix, 3D Blast, Spinball, etc. All games that can be fun but they don't play well either).
>>316833054
Sonic 4-2 > advance 1 > sonic 4-1
Best level in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc8BT5uhDVk
Now play the Speed Highway level with Sonic Boom playing. (Mute the First video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRmzY6BKkm4
IT'S LITERALLY PERFECT
>>316832938
>yeah, you go girl!
>>316830553
Except he's been to Green Hill Zone 324 times and Not Green Hill Zone 672 times since Sonic 1
>>316830378
>There's no Spamdash in the classics
What the hell are you talking about? The spindash was in every not-8-bit sonic game after the first one.
>>316834080
He's referring to Generations' super overpowered insta spindash, not the spindash in and of itself.
>>316831870
good point I completely forgot about origins.
>modern Sonic game
>enjoyablenever thought it would happen
>>316834348
UNPOPULAR OPINION
I enjoy Modern Sonic gameplay over Classic Sonic
>>316833054
Yes I fucking did moron
Sonic 1 is not barebones at all
Sonic 2 has 10 zones 19 acts
Sonic 1 has 7 zones 19 acts
That is not barebones at all
Sonic Advance 1 didn't take "Nostalgia Tropes" you fucking retard
The only thing it took from the classics was the gameplay
It had brand new zones,brand new badniks,brand new music
Difference is I never claimed any of those were good games...though Chaotix,Spinball and Tails Skypatrol are clearly spinoffs and they're trying something different
You didn't even mention the really bad ones like Sonic Blast or Sonic 2 for the Game Gear
>>316833290
>Sonic 4
>Being better than Advance 1
This is bait
>>316828909
The classic levels except for chemical plant were shit and it had a level from sonic 06 which is a game that shouldn't even be acknowledged.
Overrated/10
>>316834080
Lrn2read retard
I said "Spamdash" not "Spindash"
Spamdash is basically the boost in disguise in the Classic Stages of Gens
>>316835886
WHOA,
I won't ridicule you, but I desire to know how.
>>316834285
The spindash still got you through pretty much any obstacle save a few where you only had one shot at it.
>tfw SEGA will never make "that" perfect Sonic game we all dream of
over 15 years and I still hope
>>316835969
>Sonic 1
>7 Zones
What Final Zone? You mean Scrap Brain Act 4? No that's not a zone. And that means only 6 levels vs 10, and where as Sonic 2's final boss was interesting, Sonic 1's was just crushing pillars. Sonic 2 also had a more interesting special stage, 2 player mode, and Super Sonic.
and Sonic Advance levels:
Green Hill Mach 7
Metropolis
Casino Night
Ice Cap
Sky Sanctuary
Scrap Brain in Rocket
Random nostalgia boss rush using Sonic 1 and 2 bosses.
Doomsday Zone
Seems Sonic 4ish to me.
>>316828909
Game is a solid 9/10 on PC
>>316836860
If it gets a zone title card, it's a zone whether you like it or not.
Pic related is /v/'s favorite zone bracket. Final is on there.
>>316837473
>2%
Very popular zone. Would play again
>>316837473
>Ice cap
psshhh dont even remember that fucking zone,
Collision Chaos is the best Sonic zone in any game ever
Sonic Team accidentally made a decent game for once, so they decided to make up for it with Lost World
>>316838523
>for once
Colors was alright.
>>316838523
>mfw i see lost world on steam
>mfw i torrent just to see how it plays, maybe like generations
>mfw sonic moves at the speed of a snail
What the fuck are they doing? Are they purposely making shitty Sonic games?
It saddens me that the only thing it takes for a Sonic game to be good these days is to get the gameplay right, cus that's the only thing Generations does correctly.
Everything else, Unleashed did better.
But still it is worth something since I guess that's the main reason you would play a video games, but to be so disregarding of alternate content... that's just not good
>we couldve had dlc stages of remade stages every few months for years
>instead we get lost world and boom
>>316840316
To elaborate just so that it doesn't sound like 'good gameplay doesn't make a good game', fthe game is awesome. The variety (even though most of them are first stages) and customization in gameplay is awesome and so are the bosses.
It's just that when I play a Sonic game, or any game for that matter, I look at everything it has to offer, not just the gameplay. That's why I find Unleashed better.
>>316836860
Final Zone counts as a Zone
Advance 1's levels were very different visually from all those old zones unlike Sonic 4 which is a straight copy/paste job and you know it faggot
>Scrap Brain in Rocket
This just shows your retardation
If anything it's closer to Wing Fortress and it still looks very different
This is just as retarded as me saying
Casino Night=Spring Yard
Get a fucking clue
>>316837473
>Death Egg
>Better than Marble Garden
>Ice Cap
>The best one
/v/'s taste is shit-tier
>>316828909
Lost World wasn't all bad, just kind of a misstep. Aesthetically it was great. No dumb shit like Werehog or an edgy feel like 06. They just didn't have very fun gameplay.
Fuck Boom.
>>316840316
>the only thing it takes for a Sonic game to be good these days is to get the gameplay right, cus
That's not an easy feat at all when the original 4 set the standard too damn high
>That's the only thing Generations does correctly.
No it doesn't
And Unleashed is just shit
>>316840658
>I look at everything it has to offer, not just the gameplay. That's why I find Unleashed better.
Unleashed would have been better if they removed a majority of the shit that was obviously included just to pad out the game (werehog, medal collecting, having to wander around hubs to talk to people, pointless QTE tornado missions, etc).
Generations may be a really short game because it lacks these features, but at least there wasn't as many moments where I found myself wishing that I could just get back to playing the actual fun parts of the game.
>>316840894
>aesthetically it was great
It has good graphics, but its overly-simplistic, floating-blocks-in-the-sky art-style is trash, especially compared to the other games. Pic related is a typical background from Sonic CD.
>>316837473
literal plebs who did this survey
>>316841780
Not a single one of those background is in sonic cd. You do also realize its probably a lot harder to render 3D environments on the hedgehog engine than making sprites right? Unleashed still has the best graphics in a Sonic game, and that was 2008. All of the realworld influences and cultural details were really well done. To bad they had to cut the engine down for consoles to get a stable frame rate for Generations. Hopefully the next year game uses the original Unleashed hedgehog engine.
The best 3D Sonic game is Colors, but I loved Generations too.
Too bad Sega fucked up with Lost World gameplay. I want a true sequel of Colors, not this.
And maybe a Amy Rose spin-off game with dating sim elements and cute things.
>>316842142
Colors is fucking shit becau
>And maybe a Amy Rose spin-off game with dating sim elements and cute things.
So youre just an autistic furry shitposting then, nevermind.
>>316836193
Because I love the speed of Modern Sonic. It plays like a racing game and just seeing Sonic go balls to wall fast is so satisfying
Maybe I'm autistic but Boost makes it fun for me
>>316842142
>Colors
>3D
Colors is sidescroller with occasional Crash Bandicoot-esque 3D segments.
Still a good game though.
>>316842045
>Not a single one of those background is in sonic cd
What?
Also he was talking about Lost World not Unleashed/Generations/Hedgehog Engine which look great
>>316842281
You're definitely autistic
And I might I suggest Sonic Dash
It's on the PC also if you don't like Mobile Gaming(but I believe it's a Windows 10 exclusive...could be wrong)
>>316842412
The file name is qqbf. Quartz quadrant bad future from sonic cd. The final zone looks nothing like that. Lost world used shitty graphics because it was on the fucking wii. You cant expect it to look as good as an xbox or pc game.
>>316841780
>Purple sky
>no menacing yellow lights
>grabbing your shit from the Spriters'-Resource and not bothering to change the placeholder colors to the actual colors in the game PROVIDED AT THE BOTTOM
Nigga do it right
>>316842580
Pretty sure that was in Quartz Quadrant(the top one)
Lost World was in the Wii U which is more powerful than the PS3/360
It just seemed more low budget that's all
>>316842045
>Not a single one of those background is in Sonic CD
Then what the flying fuck is this? OOPS. And what engine the game is running on doesn't matter fucking matter in the slightest. Lost World looking like a Mario game was purely an artistic choice.
>>316841440
>tfw Sonic Unleashed will never be Sonic Adventure & Knuckles
>>316843262
Forgot image.
>>316843469
oh now I see it. I remember it having a strong yellow orange tint to it. That yellow/blue/purple didnt look familar at all
>>316842279
What's wrong with that idea? Better than Shadow the Hedgehog being edgy, using fire weapons and vehicles.
>>316828909
i liked everything about it. a lot of the missions were unique too. the bosses were good, except for the last one.
>>316828909
Agreed OP
Sega lost a big opportunity, they could've milked the game with DLCs of past games stages and I'm sure a lot would've bought it, I know I would.
>>316845985
That looks like a Homing Shot
They just had to bring in some Adventure Faggotry for Adventurefags didn't they?
>>316846721
they didn't even have a doomsday zone track in the game, but i don't care anyway because the boss was shit
>>316829773
>its decent but the physics and momentum are shit
Why are basic sentences so difficult for people to understand
>Playing Lost World for the first time
Why didn't they make Generations 2?
They could have just made Generations 2 and Sonic would've been back on track.
Why did they do this?WHY IS THERE A FUCKING INSTA-DEATH STEALTH SECTION IN A SONIC GAME JESUS CHRIST
>>316835886
that isn't an unpopular opinion at all
>>316847569
Well you know how the sonic twitter guy browses 4chan. Maybe he
Maybe just maybe he saw one of those threads about bullshit in games. And then he saw the underwater time escort insta death stealth with bad control/ai shitpost thats common here. And then he relayed that to sonic team saying americans like that.
>>316848608
as if SoJ gives a crap about what SoA has to say
>People love Generations
>Gets praise for bringing Sonic back to his old roots
>Many claim the Sonic Cylce is broken
>This game would be one of the few games that would actually benefit from DLC
>Not a single DLC
>Sega ditches the formula that made Colors and Generations a good game
>Sonic is more dead than ever before with Boom
They could have thrown in so many stages as DLC. But the decided to focus on Sonic Lost World. Why is Sega so backwards
>>316830056
>the only problem with this game is something that has absolutely nothing to do with the game at all
if you died nobody would be upset
>>316850315
this
>>316830056
i think the most ironic part of your post and you as a character is that you alone surpass the autism of all sonic fans.