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Which do you prefer for graphics for games?
Nvidia or AMD?
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>>316814475
>amd optimized game
>runs beautifully on all computers, even on toasters
>nvidia shitworks
>runs like shit on anything but 980ti's on sli
>expect your 980 to run like shit the moment the new gen is out since jews
I've always used Nvidia, but I think the AMD comments like "LOL NO DRIVERS" and "POWER HOG" are exaggerated.
The one that is better for that generation of GPU's, just about any other answer is retarded. If you base your purchase on feelings rather quantifiable numbers and objective statistics then you deserve to be euthanized.
My first build had a 4870 which was great.
My next had a 6950 which was even better.
My next had a 280x which was dogshit that died 12 months in.
Now I have a 980 and it is alright, nothing really touches the sides on in.
I liked AMD while I was a poor student, but the 280x really fucked me so Nvidia got my money for the next few years.
>>316814475
Intel+AMD is the only correct way tbqh familia.
>>316815593
baka desu senpai
>>316814475
for graphics - AMD
for games - NVIDIA
anyone who disagrees is a idiot
Uhh Nvidia. How is this even a question? AMD is irrelevant since like 10 years back
Amd because Nvidia are bigger jews.
>>316815884
>a idiot
it's an idiot
>>316816032
nvidia>AMD
>>316815553
who's 280x was it?
Been having a 7950 for 3 yrs now.. Never had a Blue screen and if I did, it was for overclocking reasons..
Upgraded to a 390, it's a fat card, but damn, it's quiet. Fans never go above 40% fan speed
AMD
someone needs to keep the competition alive or nvidia would go ultra jew on everyone.
NVidia
Yes they have horrible tactics to kill performance for AMD users, but hey do you want to be on the recieving end of the buttfucking or just oral?
>>316816465
Had 2.
First was Gigabyte, had to return it because it was artifacting everywhere. My dumb idiot self thought it was just that one card, so I then picked up the MSI which had coil whine unless I lay my PC down flat.
Currently have an EVGA 980 which I couldn't be happier with. It is a little loud over 40%, but I have it set to never be over 40% unless I am on the sun.
>>316816718
well there's your problem. should have bought it from sapphire. I'm still running a 3850 in my secondary rig.
I used to be a Radeon fanboy until I got burned bad by the x1900 series, been using Nvidia to satisfaction ever since.
>>316814475
I started with a 7870 and "upgraded" to a 970. I honestly don't know if I'm going to continue playing games since I'm turning 30 in a few years. It doesn't help just how Jewish and essjayW the medium has become.
>>316817393
>he "upgraded" to the official meme card
Kek.
Still running AMD here. Might switch over since NVidia are becoming a bunch of greedy niggers.
>>316814475
I would choose nvidia become they are more efficient and handle better, but I don't want to support a company who lies to its customers and kills older gpus so people would be force to upgrade to the 900 series.
>>316817671
What?
AMD
nVidia has been up to shady shit lately, also benchmarks have shown AMD has been putting out cards that have better or ever so slightly worse performance for less cost.
>>316817864
Probably talking about how many games are optimized for Nvidia's hardware, so they run like shit on AMD. Nvidia is a greedy cunt
I have absolutely no experience with Ati sincet ~2009, my last card was x1600 or somethings like that. I didn't bother with drivers back then, just installed the ones that came on CD with it and installed newer ones in 2007 or so. Recently I got for free a 2008 laptop and except that I had to install the drivers via compatibility mode in Win8.1 because lol fuck legacy cards, it runs fairly decentfor the price :^). I wish the AMD folks however that the new Catalyst isn't such a piece of shit to look at.
>>316816773
If AMD runs like shit on that many games, why should I buy it?
>>316818128
Ah, that makes more sense.
for my first build i bought a gtx 770. i went with nvidia because i didn't know anything about amd and nvidia has better marketing so it seems like nvidia cards are just the standard cards everyone should get. now i know better and will be getting an amd card in a year or two when i need to upgrade.
>>316814475
AMD. I can't support Nvidia gimping their own cards to sell the newest ones
Nvidia is Razer of GPUs
I need to upgrade soon and I would go AMD but right now AMD is in a pretty shitty spot. The 390 is their absolute best card because of the price/performance ratio but it's just not powerful enough for my needs. The Fury/Fury X are major disappointments in the high end market.
>>316818790
>not powerful enough for my needs
and what are your needs?
Why do people upgrade that often? I have a 560ti Q9550 and I still can run most games on high or medium at best 1080p 60+fps stable. Worst case scenario majority of performance heavy games have sliders for render resolution. Buying a card more than twice per decade for marginal upgrades seems like a waste to me, not even poor, I just think you could invest that money in better things, like yourC3 Corvette
>>316814475
as someone that used bothnvidia 440mx -» nvidia 8800gts -» ati 5770 hd -» nvidia 670gtxi have to say they're both pretty bad.
and since the rivalry seems to be between who releses the less shitty hardware and software instead of who's releasing the best ones, the overall quality is pretty low.
but to resume it quickly:
>nvidia:relativegood drivers/shitty hardware but better performance
>ati: awful drivers/ medium hardware but with worse performance
so just pick your poison and i hope it's hemlock
>>316818954
Gaming at 1440p.
>>316816921
>>316816718
Seriously this. Never buy from anything but sapphire. They're the only company with acceptable quality control.
>>316818506
Pretty much.
>>316818790
But they're objectively just as good or better than something like a 980ti. Have you looked at any benchmarks?
>>316818963
For real. The funniest part is, whenever a broken/shitty pc port comes out and most people have issues like stuttering and fps drops (Fallout 4), there's always that one guy who's like "oh, it plays flawlessly for me, solid 60fps/1080p." Then someone asks him what his build is and he says he has a 980ti.
>>316818963
I really don't know. I mean I have a fucking 5 year old Athlon II x4 640, which cost like 120$ back then and a 7850 and yet I run most, if not all modern games just fine. Witcher 3 for example, 1080p, high settings with most of the post-processing options on at around 40fps. And that game is supposedly CPU intense.
>>316819563
Yeah no. From someone who ACTUALLY has a 980ti, fallout 4 dips below 60 in towns all the time at 1080p.
>>316819005
>Benchmarks and numbers mean nothing, this one's better cuz I said so!
>>316819563
You know my 780 actually is fine until towns and really random parts of boston
It's so bad that it dips to like 20 fps while looking at random spots in the map
>walk into Best Buy
>see a 970 with Fallout 4 branding all over it
>covered in screenshots and the backplate of the GPU has Vault Boy on it
>"Game not included"
You can have one regularly branded generic Nvidia card come with a free copy of the newest Assassin's Creed but not Fallout 4 for your special "Fallout 4 graphics card"?
>>316819894
>>316819946
Less than a minute appart. This should tell you something.
>>316819775
Get a better CPU. I get dips to 51 on my 970 / 2500k, my friend has a 970 4790k and it runs 60 absolutely everywhere, Bethesda games are extremely CPU intensive
I still have a 560 Ti and my only experience is with Nvidia cards; last one before that was a 8800GT which I loved until it died on me.
Is the 970 really a "meme" card? Because I'm planning on upgrading to one.
>>316819563
I have a 280x and it runs at 60fps on ultra 99% of the time @1200p
>>316820080
Jesus Christ.
>>316820080
The 970 was so popular that games are literally being made for it
I can almost guarantee not one person who owns one is disappointed by its performance
>>316820047
I don't understand what you're trying to say here
>>316820080
970 is a meme because of the 3.5 scandal
you shouldn't spend your money on something that was a lie to consumers
>>316820080
It's not a meme. The problems with it are factual. Enjoy having 2016 games triple tesilation on it so you have to be new newest card, idiot.
>>316820069
>Bethesda games are extremely CPU intensive
I guess thats why it runs so well on my fx8350
>>316820267
How factually wrong can you get? I'm really in need of a job and I have no shame, where can I apply to viral market?
AMD for GPU
NVIDIA for CPUMulticore support is great...when it's supported.[/spolier]
>>316820080
The 970 is irrelevant because the 390 exists. Extra heat and power draw (which by the way are not that large depending on the models of 970 and 390's we're talking about) are not reasons to avoid a card if your case and PSU aren't giant piles of shit.
>>316820080
Get a second hand 980 non-Ti, should be just a little more expensive and will deliver better performance.
>>316815175
this.
>>316816718
>>316816465
>>316815553
I just bought an MSI R9 390. Did i fucked up?
>>316818309
Even though I agree with that train of logic, that's like agreeing to a monopoly based on false statements. No thanks.
>>316814475
NVIDIA.
Haven't really had much trouble with their drivers.
AMD on the other hand...
I dont support Nvidia (last time I gave them money was probably 12 years ago?) due to nasty business tactics.
Funny thing is not only is AMD cheaper it does out perform Nvidia in many games, especially if its not a game with special features to wreck AMD cars (which also wrecks older Nvidia cards so they fuck over their own customers too).
Getting 60 FPS while exploring outside (30-45 during battles) on ultra @ 1080p on fallout with a 4gb Radeon 380. No graphics glitches so far or microstuttering. (having i5-2500k and 16gb ram probably helps too).
>>316820080
r9 390 is better, go for that.
>>316814813
>Shilling
>Shilling for a company as pathetic as amd
Holy hell is this issue always divided here.
>>316822568
The problem is Nvidia cards are great (apart from the 3.5gb nonsense), the issue is not so much their price but the business tactics.
AMD cards are also great, and the best value BUT some games have deliberately been designed to fail AMD (compared to the designed for AMD games which also work well on Nvidia and some intel intergrateds).
The best Nvidia card is better than the best AMD card, but thats not how real life works. If you have £200 then AMD is the winner.
Like I said nothing wrong with the N. hardware, they are just cunts of a company.
>>316820182
>>316820348
>>316820360
>>316820823
>>316821667
AMD shills are wondrous
>>316823013
>AMD shill
>reply chain goes back to me saying I have a 780
>>but thats not how real life works
to clarify - most people are not millionaires or have more important things to spend a grand on than a graphics card. if you do then great, but that doesnt apply to most of us,
>>316823131
Who are you quoting?
>>316823418
>You're dick ffels so gooooooooood
-you*re mother last night
>>316823697
Who are you quoting?
>>316823909
My anus with your dick in it faggot
>>316815884
What kind of nigger shit...
>>316824072
Who are you replying to?
>>316824205
Poster # 316823909
>>316814475
Just buy whatever's the best for money you're willing the spend at the time. Sometime's it's amd and rarely it's nvidia. Last time I bought a card the 7950 was the best bang for the buck at like $300 so I got that.
>>316821239
Its fans might get fucked.
They're both shit.
Nvidia cards actually work in Linux, which I use for programming, so I go with them.
>>316814475
I prefer AMD but Nvidia basicaly controls the market and games only get optimized for it which is BS
Literally every time I've gone nvidia the shit's died within two years.
Meanwhile I've got ancient ATI cards that still work.
If amd is cheaper, I'll buy amd.
If they're the same price, I'll buy amd.
If the amd card is within twenty dollars of the nvidia card, I'll buy amd.
I'd only buy nvidia if it was a serious bargain.
>>316826660
I thought the community made drivers for AMD surpassed Nvidia.
This is what happens when a 970 uses more than 3.5gb of ram. Pay attention to the frame rate.
>>316827465
No they have horrible performance and lack key features. They're better than the AMD proprietary drivers but not by much.
AMD do alright by me.
>>316819979
Thats because Ubisoft will literally give away copies of Assassins Creed at this point
>>316822568
Everyone has post-purchase rationalization of some kind.
My 280x hasn't died on me yet, I'll be using it for a while now. Still never have had to overclock my CPU, but that's what I'll probably do first before I ever get a new GPU.
The only real upgrade I can think of getting right now is a few more hard drives to set up RAID5.
Currently have gtx 660 but I'm now leaning towards AMD. >>316816773 sums up why basically.
hopefully the arctic island gpu's are just as good as amds last few generations.
Started with a GT 7300 LE
2nd one was a GT 230
3rd one was a GT 630
Now I have a GTX 980Ti
I did consider to to buy the Fury but after the reviews came in, I choose not to because it did not perform as I hoped
>>316831661
>My 280x hasn't died on me yet
That is because fat tahiti (i.e the 7970/280x) will last forever. At 1100mhz that card will drive 1080p at high settings until the apocalypse.
>>316820724
>NVIDIA for CPU
kekles
>>316832535
I think I have mine overclocked a little higher, I don't know too much about overclocking other than make it higher until you start experiencing crashes and then go just right under that.
>>316823013
We have facts, you have memes. That's pretty much where things are at right now
>>316832846
Its possible you are above 1100mhz but unlikely as GCN starts getting thirsty beyond that point (hawaii cards in particular). Still if it wasn't for secondary features like freesync and a few others the 7970 would STILL be the card to buy today if one buying a card in the 960/380 price bracket.
To think these days a 7970 rivals a 780 in some games and if you suggested that in 2013 you'd be laughed off /g/.
>>316824205
>>316824072
>>316823909
>Nvidiakeks realize they have no argument so they better start meming the thread and saging
>>316820080
See
>>316827731
You might as well buy an alienware and Razer mouse and keyboard.
Enjoy your shit performance!
>>316833110
You seem knowledgeable. What's the cheapest I can go and still game at 1440p? It's something I've gotten to experience thanks to a friend and it's been on my mind lately. I'm hoping it comes at much less the cost of 2160p gaming, I haven't taken the time to research properly yet.
>He fell for the AMD meme
>>316833721
Depends on how high you want to crank sliders, but realistically you are looking at a 290/390 at minimum if you want to play on high/ultra. The equivalent from Nvidia is alas the 970 and I personally feel it is a fundamentally flawed card so I do not suggest it, but thats the performance bracket it falls into. Naturally some games are pure card killers so ultra for everything isn't going to happen.
Star wars battlefront runs like a fucking dream on just about everything for example. Witcher 3? Not so much.
>>316834095
Is there a way to exchange a lower tier card for one higher up? I've never sold anything online before and I know no one locally will buy the card because it's a small town with no real enthusiasts. Its the sapphire vapor x 280x.
>>316833740
This proves nothing
I prefer AMD, best cost for price/performance.
To this day, I still use the 7870. Or is it 7850? To this day, I still don't know. The PC/card only reads "7800" series and this bitch hasn't given up on me since 2012.
I have a 280x spare still in the box waiting though. I think I will upgrade it until the end of the year. Hasn't upgraded yet because hasn't seen the need, but I saw the 280x on promo and I was afraid my card was getting outdated when all new "next-gen" games were coming.
Protip: It fucking isn't.
I'm happy to see some positive comments on the 280X. It will problably last the entire of this generation unless I want 4k gaming. Which I don't, I don't even have a monitor designed for that right now.
Nvidia
>>316833740
...And?
Notice that no one here gave positive comments on the Fury X. It's not bad but it was a disapointment. Who cares when they are releasing newer ones next year...
Also, I see no 280x on that chart. Are nvidiafags that afraid?
>>316833740
>shitposting this hard
Peak power draw does not matter. Peaks in line current happen for microseconds, and do not represent average draw whatsoever.
>>316835427
280x is pretty much the 7970 GHz ed
>tfw 280x sapphire
From my experience Nvidia has a 2 year life cycle on their graphics cards
From day 1 you get superb performance then after 2 years it somehow just drops either to failure in the product or driver gimp
Amd has a much longer life time.
They are basically the complete opposite of Nvidia.
From day 1 you have shitty performance and you have to wait for the driver optimization but you will end up having a faster graphics card after 3 years with the Amd card.
in short:
>Nvidia
>I WANT SPEED NOW
>Amd
>Uhm next month? uh what ever
>>316835637
The 750Ti is also pretty good from what I hear. Didn't quite get the meme though
>>316814813
Fact: AMDfags are the worst of PC gamers. Look in any gpu thread and the first shitposter is always an AMD kiddy spouting memes.
>>316834672
Selling old hardware to get dosh towards newer stuff is a sensible plan, but you have to remember things devalue fast as a rule. As you have a 280x my advice you be to overclock it as hard as you can and use VSR in catalyst to give you an idea of what sort of performance you will be getting at your desired resolution.
The resolutions don't always match up but its close enough for most ballpark figures.
https://community.amd.com/docs/DOC-1301
>>316814475
It really depends on the money you're ready to invest in a new GPU, but if the price is not a problem I'd buy Nvidia.
Currently using r9 280oc, so I'm not Nvidia fanboy.
>>316835956
it was an edit done in a 750ti thread several months ago. you'd really only get it if you were in the thread.
I used to have a 7770 series AMD card, it was really average. I'm not complaining though, because I didn't pay much for it. In the end I decided to upgrade to the 780Ti and it's been serving me much better, but I guess that's because it's a much better card all around. I'm liking Nvidia shawdowplay and the control panel, I think it's better than AMD's catalyst even though the pretty much do the same thing. It's nice to beable to play those games which kept crashing on my AMD card because DRIVERS now, but there weren't all too many.
Nvidia + Intel is working pretty well for me so far.
>>316836328
I had seen VSR before in CCC but never messed with it. I'll give that a shot, thanks anon.
Have a Radeon 6850, got it like 4 years ago. Can't afford a new GPU.
Fallout 4 decently playable.
Thank you AMD :3
Is AMD the way to go if I only care about 60fps, 1080p on high settings?
>>316836073
Kinda ironic that you and all other Nvidia fags are spouting memes eh?
>>316837010
Any decent card can do that.
But yeah, if you want it cheaper.
>>316833740
There is no need to be upset. You're 980ti will keep you warm this winter.
>>316837047
It is just as bad in /g/ - evidence showing AMD as a viable option gets drowned under dank memes.
>>316837047
You sir, are so right.
>>316837152
Sauce? I don't recognise the watermark.
>>316836701
Dude, with all due respect, your previous card was outdated as fuck.
You would say the same thing with literally any other updated card.
Congrats on the 780Ti though, it's fairly decent and not a meme card.
Whichever provides the best performance for the money at the time.
There's no such thing as brand loyalty on PC and only retards that buy prebuilts think otherwise.
Can anyone help me out here, my shitty AMD 6850 cant run fallout 4 (well) so want to buy a new card but cant really spend too much. I've looked around and its come down to these two:
http://www.newegg.com/global/uk/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487164 - £125
http://www.newegg.com/global/uk/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202150 - £131
Now the GTX has 4GB of video ram compared to the 2GB the R9 has, but the R9 has a memory interface of 256-Bit. Which is better?
pic related
>>316837294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLaSASWQ_o4
The company that isn't the one who gives graphic options to game companies who use those tools that rape any card the tools weren't designed for.
>>316837668
>some youtuber with 5k subs
>just a power meter plugged straight into the wall
this is so fucking retarded, I can't believe that A) someone thought that was an accurate way to measure power consumption and B) you actually took screenshots and posted them
But hey maybe I have the wrong end of the stick and you're doing this to intentionally mislead people or even worse "epically trolle" people
>>316816680
That analogy... is completely wrong. Please refrain from trying to make any in the future.
Also, their tactics also cripples their own performances, retard. Good luck trying to get Shitworks to ...well, work with any Nvidia that isn't the 900s series.
And yes, the games would look better on Nvidia if they didn't try these retarded tactics. The tesselation also affects their card's performances and would look better and with higher framerates if they didn't go out of the way to being giantic ass jews.
I will never even understand why people buy Nvidia. Cards that costs more, don't neccessarily offer better performance, lasts less... Wtf?
Ok, the 980 is a beast, but if you're going for anything below that, just get a fucking AMD.
Oh, and the 980 is also getting obsolute next year when they release new cards. Knowing Nvidia they will problably fuck up their old customers like usual.
>>316818790
>The Fury/Fury X are major disappointments in the high end market.
Really?
What is so disappointing about it?
Askin as I am/was planning on getting one.
>>316819005
>that image
>man
>that hand-writing
>those hearts
Jesus Christ...
>>316818963
My new PC parts just came in the mail. Just waiting on my CPU to put it together.
I'm replacing a 5 year old GPU that I owned for 4.5 years. It served me well, but there's games coming through the pipeline that I can't expect it to handle to my satisfaction.
A good CPU+GPU will last a very long time.
>>316814475
Whichever one has the best price to performance rate in my price range. Being loyal to brands is bad for your wallet.
>>316814475
I switched to Amd after the 3.5 fiasco.
>>316826431
Why source ? im about to buy one.
Had to get a R9 390 for WQHD as nVidia has nothing to offer besides the overpriced 980ti.
>>316840641
In a similar situation. I think my i5 2500k is fine and so is my motherboard, spent a lot of money on getting a good PSU (why does no one ever talk about the importance of these for a good computer build?) and ram. But I also have a 560 Ti but kind of worried with the mid-tower size case I have that I'm limited in options for a gpu upgrade.
Looks like Geforce
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html
I prefer VOODOO
>>316841345
>switching to the worse provider after a meme on /v/
nice
>>316841735
>passmark
>accurate for anything at all.
Yes please tell me more about how a 680 is faster than a 690.
>>316840225
People were hyping it up too much, it's fine just doesn't beat the 980 tiyetand people were hoping for a titan x killer.
>>316815132
This, iv actually had more driver problems with Nvidia than AMD, its either that or I was sent a fucked up 989 ti thanks to EVGA going full jew and selling cards by their asic quality to the point of where they barely operate properly.
>>316814475
Depends on the generation and pricepoint.
Generally Nvidia, AMD from time to time (eg. when the 290X was discontinued, and you could get a good new one at £190).
The catalyst control center is fucking awful though. Nvidia inspector is, on the other hand, fantastic. AMD's case would be helped by some functional software.
>>316841735
They list the 390x as the same thing as a 290x yet oddly the 680 and 770 are different entries.
>>316841709
Man. Everyone who bought that 2500k picked their noses and pulled out a 24 karat nugget of gold.
That thing is still somewhat viable despite being ancient by PC standards.
>>316841870
Where do you find reliable benchmarks anon?
Please enlighten me with your knowledge.
And no, I am not being sarcastic, I really want to learn.
>>316841765
My nigga
>>316842081
Short answer: look at multiple sites to get a good, well rounded view of how shit performs (i.e do your own research).
Passmark however is fucking worthless for gpus and barely useful for cpus - it is on par with those sites like gpuboss which just compare numbers on the box and declare the higher number better.
>>316842054
Pretty much, it was a great processor and Intel just did the right things to make it still stay relevant somewhat. Pretty happy with it. Still if I had the choice I'd probably drop it for a 4690k.
>>316817393
This isn't Logan's Run. You can continue to play games regardless of age.
I'm Jewish so Nvidia.
>>316842284
Good to know.
I am slowly upgrading my PC and my next step is getting a new GPU (I have a 6870).
In this day and age is it worth buying a 960? Be honest. I just want to play some modern games and do a decade's worth of catch up.
>>316840225
Bad price/performance ratio. One doesn't need a Fury/980ti for FullHD but there's little point in getting the Fury for WQHD or higher as it lacks memory. 980ti has 6GB at least. The low quality cooler pump also makes high pitched noises and you have to open it up to fix it by glueing something between case and pump to apply a bit of pressure.
Just get a 390 (non-X) for 350$ and wait for next year before upgrading.
Always Nvidia and Intel, don't be poor. Don't be delusional. AMD will always be second.
>>316842556
go away nvidia shill
>>316842513
>Fury for WQHD or higher as it lacks memory.
4gb doesn't hold a card back at 4k - see the 295x2 on this chart.
In b4
>its a dual gpu!!!!1111one
Vram isn't mirrored yo and when you run out of it you are FUCKED.
>>316842631
Derp
*is mirrored
Forgive my transgression /g/
>>316814475
AMD is the best bang for your buck but are hilariously incompetent while being pretty liberal about everything
Nvidia is overpriced while delivering the most powerful products, but are pretty much the equivalent of a supervillain with how obvious and and overboard they go with anti-competition practices
>>316815884
Angel?
>>316836073
>FACT
>Then posts an opinion and a meme.
Want a real fact? Your favorite company lies to you constantly and you still come crawling back for more.
>>316837231
*tips le fedora*\
My pleasure m'lady.
i wish AMD was better, but they release shit drivers that don't work properly with half of the new games released so i'm forced to buy Nvidia until they get their shit together
>>316821239
i hear R9 390 has a ton of driver issues with more gfx intensive games anon, google it
>>316841849
>Facts are now memes
How does this work.
I need to replace my old graphic card, what do you guys reccomend? I was tempted by the GeForce GTX 970, I've had amd until now.
I want to play next gen titles at 60fps god damn
Maybe you guys can help me.
I always heard that, for example, if you have an AMD CPU you need to have a AMD GPU because they work better than a AMD CPU and GeForce GPU. Is it correct or just a myth?
>>316842081
Youtube comparison videos. It has to be running a GAME. noT a benchmark program, those don't demonstrate game performance very well.
>>316843395
Depends on resolution, cpu, psu etc etc.
>>316843431
Its total bullshit.
>go to store as kid to buy first ever gfx card
>Riva TNT 2 Ultra, heard this shit was the bomb
>next to it is some obscure new card no one has heard of yet, called "GeForce", lol!
if only i could go back in time
average AMD owner: THIS GAME SUCKS, CAN'T EVEN GET IT TO WORK, IT KEEPS CRASHING AND GRAPHICS ARE GLITCHING OUT!
>>316843395
>390 proven to pump out more FPS and costs less.
not really hard.
>>316843212
They update catalyst drivers every month, the no drivers thing was true in 2008, it's now a meme.
>>316843395
Im also in the same position, ive been investigating for a few weeks now. Apparently the Msi r9 390 is the best option.
>>316816773
>tessellation
AMD is still garbage at optimizing tessellation for games after all these years
>witcher 3
The game ran fine for AMD users. The only ones complaining were the ones using nvidia settings. Why use something clearly not designed for your card? Also tessellation lmao. They also didn't have a driver out
>project cars
No drivers. There was a moment where it's been 100+ days since AMD put a driver update out for their cards. People complained about the game using physx but the game used a different type of physx. Xcom physx is different from borderlands/metro physx. Also the devs even said that they tried to. Get a hold of AMD to work with them but AMD were just like "nah not right now"
I understand that competition is healthy for the consumers but AMD hasn't done any competing at all for a very long time. They won't even work with devs.
>>316843632
jeez I dont know I'm not a fucking NASA scientist
Help a nigga out please, /g/ told me that I just need to change card and maybe buy an ssd
>>316843908
Yeah you only need a new gpu - that cpu (especially overclocked) will last forever.
What's the largest video card I can put in an Antec 300 /v/?
>>316843992
Just about everything bar those monster coolers sapphire slap onto hawaii (and possibly fury).
Specs say the case has 279mm clearance at a glance and some of those tri-x coolers are over 300mm long.
>>316843873
You keep deflecting the fact that we've demonstrated that it forces AMD cards to do a lot MORE tessellation than Nvidia to make it run worse.
>>316836073
>>316843873
Amd:
Witcher 3: Turn of Hairworks 60 fps.
Fallout 4: turn off God rays 60 fps.
Why the fuck should i buy jewvidia ?
>>316844361
Need dat superior image quality x64 provides!
>>316844361
AMD tessellation hasn't on par with nvidia for many years now and it's always been one of their weakest points. You'd think they would you know...innovate or actually do someshit to improve something on their gpu to compete and help the consumer or something. Why the fuck does this board worship that company? It's like AMD does nothing wrong ever here
>>316842513
>he low quality cooler pump also makes high pitched noises and you have to open it up to fix it by glueing something between case and pump to apply a bit of pressure.
I thought that was fixed?
>>316844851
People in forums still complain about it and I've read at least two professional reviews where the site still claims this to be present, despite having gotten a new review model from AMD with the claim "pump noise is fixed".
The main issue as consumer is that you won't know if you are affected until you bought and installed the card to actually run the pump. It's likely the vendors get those cards returned immediately and then just sell them to the next guy.
>>316844269
Really?
So even something like this you'd say: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487069 ?
>>316845619
Apparently so. Really this is all easy information to find out.
>>316844664
I like features. The can understand witcher 3 Shari but why turn off fallout God rays? It's one of the things that actually make the game look good.
>>316814475
AMD is objectively better for playing games on. Both their best cards perform the same with the difference in performance being between what game it is. Sure nvidia has more driver updates, but why do you think they have so many updates? It's because they are slowly gimping your card so you can buy a new one. Now that's a shit way to treat your customers. AMD is much more worth it with the prolonged use of the card with the better value out of the two. AMD is clearly the smarter choice and people that say they have buyers remorse after buying an AMD card is either a shill or an nvidiot with buyers remorse after wasting hundreds on a gimped card.
>>316814475VIAfor cpu
NVIDIA for gpu
>>316846143
They don't and the implementation is fucking awful.
>>316846380
Are you that retarded...
nvm don't answer everyone already knows you are.
I've been needing an upgrade for a while, since my sli 470's are just giving me problems every week now.
I've been looking at the R9 380. Thing is, Id love to have a good shadow play feature, since my friends and I like to capture fun/great moments when we play together, so we can watch them later. Call us gay, idgaf, when you play with the same people for 8 years, stuff happens.
Does anyone have experience with that GVR feature on AMD? Does it work properly, especially on capturing backwards?
>>316846543
Damage control
fidna get one dem 390x desu senpai
>>316839486
>Oh, and the 980 is also getting obsolute next year when they release new cards. Knowing Nvidia they will problably fuck up their old customers like usual.
980 here, was desperate for an upgrade, got impatient waiting on 300 series GPUs and was tempted by "full" DX12 support at the time.
I am worried of them pulling another kepler. Especially with VR just around the corner where low framerates can turn my PC into a vomit machine.
Funnily enough I don't own a single game with gameworks features most of them are shit anyway. Might switch back to AMD if my 980 performs poorly granted their 14nm GPUs are any good, I hope they do well in the VR department and don't fuck up.
My 980 should last for a few years until 4K 60+fps on a single card becomes a thing, rather not upgrade until then.
I am more concerned about the trend of games coming out lately that look like ass and perform like ass requiring bloated specs to achieve the same level of graphical fidelity that could've been achieved with lower end hardware if it were properly optimized.
>>316846521
I don't get that graph, how much of a difference is there between high and ultra god rays for the performance impact?
>>316814475
AMD, better performance in nearly every category and they care about your freedom
>>316820870
this.
spend 50 more on a 980 which will give you enough performance till the next cards come out next year. 970 is good but why get a card which can have potential memory problems when you can spend a little extra and get a more powerful 980 which will run any game at 1440p ultra/high settings. my 980 can run mgs5 at 4k with a mix of veryhigh/high and it doesnt drop below 60.
>>316847612
The chart merely shows the performance impact of the settings. Half of the issues with FO4's shit-tier performance is that godrays murder performance but offer zero difference in image quality going from low to ultra - yet as the chart shows it nearly halves your fps on the most powerful card you can buy.
Plus the FO4 launcher is bugged (iirc) so turning godrays off doesn't stick because bethesda can't QA for shit.
>>316814475
nvidia are huge fucking jews. unfortunately their cards perform better than amd though.
>>316820080
Get a 390 fool, 125% more VRAM and it performs better, and it has better DX12 support potentially
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9cKZiJw6Pk
>>316848097
shut the fuck up retard
>>316848231
suck my cock faggot bitch.
>>316846521
i just realized when i owned a 970 i would get absurd framedrops in bioshock infinite, mostly around areas with light shining into the room. at the time i would have blamed it on the memory not being to handle parts of the game but now i know for a fact it's because of the the godrays (light shafts) bioshock infinite uses.
it sucks that everyone's blaming nvidia for the shit performance in fo4 when it's actually just one of the effects that's naturally taxing on graphics cards.
>>316848371
It's shit and a ripoff
>>316848438
FO4's godrays are implemented part of gamesworks, hence the absurd tessellation (yes, they fucking tessellated light).
Godrays have been implemented in many other games in a better way. Still, I want muh real-time ray tracing.
>>316848371
Should have gotten a 380
Should I just wait till next year for the new cards to come out? I'm patient and I have a backlog.
>>316849956
Yes.
>>316848760
Once the new Power Play patches go live in the kernel I'm considering it. They'll need to get the tessellation performance up to acceptable levels, and add compute shader support as well. I'm confident they'll manage it and still kind of in shock. AMD is now very close to having good drivers. By next April there may be no reason to buy Nvidia.
>>316848231
>buying amd garbage
>calling other people retarded
top kek
>>316850449
I agree.
>>316845382
>It's likely the vendors get those cards returned immediately and then just sell them to the next guy.
>>316850525
it's like the more you demand out of your graphnics card the less output it has...
whoah..
>>316850525
im not defending this but what the fuck do people expect to happen when you increase the resolution from 1080p to 4k? you think it'll magically stay the same fps?
seriously, i havent decided which card to get next but im starting to have second thoughts about choosing amd since every single amd owner seems to have a point to prove all the fucking time whereas the nividia lot laugh them down. i dont want to be some constantly depressed guy as a result of buying amd
>>316850791
Yes, losing 2/3 of your framerate is entirely normal behaviour.
>>316814475
AMD
best bang for my meager bucks
>>316851019
>fucking time whereas the nividia lot laugh them down.
Well if they didn't laugh they'd cry given all the evidence posted showing them getting fucked.
>>316851030
i love cherry picked benchmarks against 970s. post the one with AC unity dipping to 0 and then you'll be out of 970 bait pictures.
I can't believe all these memes about graphics cards. What the fuck is this shit? Who gives a shit what people think
>>316851451
>Who gives a shit what people think
The smartphone generation. They spend most of the day reading social media bullshit and believe it matters what some cunt said on the internet.
>>316851030
How is the 390x wrecking that 980?
>>316851330
There are plenty more pics showing the 970 suffering - denial doesn't make them go away.
>>316851670
Game eats memory for breakfast.
>>316814475
I'm still sitting on my first build which was budget when I built it and it was AMD of course.
Phenom 965 and a 6850. I've had zero problems with them. Surprised I can play Fallout 4 on this build although I had to turn shit down considerably.
No idea what I'll do next. Might just upgrade this AMD build or I might build an Intel/Nvidia build since I have more than enough money to go big now.
>>316851809
how does it feel knowing 970s out perform your current AMD card in fallout 4? without having to turn off features.
>>316852073
Pretty good - a driver can fix FO4's performance but the 970 is broken forever.
>>316852373
feels good to know my oc'd 980 wipes the floor with all those amd cards and they have absolutely no chance to ever match my performance
>>316852671
You've got your work cut out.
>>316820267
Gonna have to agree. I own one and even though I know its a flawed card I can't complain about how its performed so far.
>>316852671
Pretty sure the Fury competes with an OC'd 980
>>316852951
>feels good to know my oc'd 980 wipes the floor with all those amd cards and they have absolutely no chance to ever match my performance
>oc'd
>posts stock benchmarks
you should get those eyes tested asap
>>316853227
>you should get those eyes tested asap
The implication is you need a hefty overclock to basically get reference 980ti performance.
>>316853076
it beats the fury in many titles whilst being £50 cheaper give or take a few quid
