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>tfw found my old Nintendo DS yesterday with AW: Days of Ruin still in it from like 5 years ago and I've been playing it like a motherfucker
I never did beat the campaign, maybe it's time to cross that off my list for good. I also forgot how dank the soundtrack was
never cleared mission 26
>>316797830
the nest claims all weak souls good luck
>>316797830
days of ruin was shit. The fucking edgy dark graphics this game tried to push, and the sprites being pixelated as fuck because 'depth' in the battles, fuck that shit.
Dual Strike is where it's at.
>>316798510
>Dual Strike's tilted camera
>>316798510
>implying 2 wasn't the pinnacle of the series
Remember me motherfuckers?
>>316800881
>wow look, nothing
Not to mention that's the Hard version, which is even easier than Normal.
>>316800881
sup
The post apocalypse bandits should have been a playable faction. With a unique melee-thug unit that sucks ass but can be pumped out like no tomorrow.
>brenner being a cool hope-filled badass
>lin is hot as fuck
>flight of the motherfucking coward
>that god damned mayor
The game gets way too much hate.
The main problem of the series is that it relied in the enemies having some sort of bullshit weapon/missile instead of an actual strategy.
It was complete artificial difficulty, but I guess that simulating actual player movements would be hard
you guys have nothing on this bullshit
>>316805645
DoR's AI would probably be pretty decent at playing DS. The problem is that DoR's gameplay growth eclipsed the AI's growth, leaving it braindead when it comes to CO use.
>>316802058
Dude you literally spam mechs over the hills like 90% of the missions
DoR's story is the worst thing ever and is physically painful to endure, but it's still the best Advance Wars game since it has the best gameplay by far and that's all that matters.
>>316808294
>mech spam
enjoy your B rank
>>316808662
Bullshit you don't need s rank in every category to get s rank for the mission
Who has the best theme and why is itGrit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HivbtzotFCE
>>316809202
Grit is good, but there's a lot of good ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSENH7rwy3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y80cfL409Xg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GCKo7TwSno
Fuck Nintendo and killing off the series in favor of waifu emblem. And fuck nintendrones for enabling it.
>>316809657
honestly its been so long since the last advance wars that i'd buy a waifu wars
>>316809657
Hey, at least Advance Wars died in a semi good way, while Intelligent Systems is still dragging Fire Emblem's corpse around.
The series cold have promise, but no, have some waifus instead. Like, they got Fog of War pretty good in DoR (if I remember correctly about even AI having to actually play with it on instead of it being only there for players), but no Fog of War in Awakening, what the fuck, IS.
>>316810465
I guess you're right. It still sucks that Nintendo dropped Advance Wars like a sack of steaming shit.
I never played DoR, maybe I should try it. The artstyle turned me off when it first came out, I really liked the lightheartedness of the series before it. It was like a saturday morning cartoon.
>>316810648
I've actually been wondering, what did happen with the sales of AW? DoR was ported to Japan pretty late, so did the series just suddenly drop from popularity in Japan?
And while DoR is pretty different from the first Advance Wars, it's still good. Though it's a shame that we couldn't have both it and a regular AW.
Such a shame that these are theDays of Ruinfor SRPGs...
>Final Fantasy Tactics is dead
>Tactics Ogre is dead
>Advance Wars is dead
>Super Robot Wars is Japan only
Our only hope seems to be Fire Emblem, but the series is going in a direction most of us don't seem to really enjoy...
>>316811129
Disgaea is still kicking. But it looks like if you don't have waifus or weebshit, you don't have a SRPG anymore.
New Front Mission when?
>>316811312
Almost forgot Disgaea, though did 5 even sell well? With the original team kinda hightailing it, it might not be around for too long.
But as a person who likes both non-weeb japanese games and weeb games, I find it kinda sad. I don't want them overlapping too much, which is why what happened to Fire Emblem kinda saddens me.
I always wonder why IS didn't just start a new waifu SRPG series instead of dumping the task on FE, are they that desperate for the sales from both old and new fans?
>>316810648
The biggest draw of DoR is multiplayer, and that's pretty much impossible to do nowadays. Even with the mod that re-enables online play, you'll never find another willing person.
>>316811129
>I've actually been wondering, what did happen with the sales of AW?
AW always outsold FE globally when the two ran concurrently. The problem is that no one in Japan cares about the series, and neo-nintendo doesn't acknowledge that the west exists.
>>316812368
Is that so? Then the problem is the fact that IS misinterpreted their western fanbase's likes pretty hard. DoR is obviously a case of "Japan makes a game they think western people would like", which mostly ends up bombing due to people liking Japanese games because they are different, but Japan always fucks that up when they try making a game western people would like.
If they'd instead had made a game like the previous AW, we could still have the series alive and kicking. Maybe.
>>316812956
Dual Strike actually had the worst sales of the four, but because it came out so early in the DS's lifespan it's hard to say how much of the decline was because of the low install base versus people getting tired of the same old same old. I for one think it's more of the latter; I bought a DS at launch because Dual strike was in that original E3 reel that showed a bunch of games that were scheduled for the launch window.
Days of Ruin is the only game we have hard numbers for. According to NPD, it sold 130,000 in the US in its first two months. If we assume it did about as well in EU+AU, that's over 250k, which is entirely healthy by IS standards.
>>316814003
Yet they still dropped the series like nothing? Damn, that is harsh.
Never played a Advance Wars game before, and im interessed in AW Days of Ruin.
Is the story good? Should i play the other games before this one?
What about gameplay wise, is it? Does it have waifu bullshit? Cause it is kinda annoying so i was hoping that it didnt have it.
>>316814539
Gmaeplay wise, is it good*
>>316814539
>Is the story good
No
>Should I play the other games?
Maybe
>gameplay
simple
>waifu bullshit
yes
>>316814539
>Is the story good
I like it
>Should I play the other games?
1 and 2, skip the shitty ds one
>gameplay
awesome improvements over the older ones
>waifu bullshit
kinda
>>316815479
>>316815821
Well there are some cute girls tho, i will emulate it. Thanks.
>>316815942
>ask if there is waifu 'bullshit'
>girls are cute, picked up
Do you like it or not?
>>316815942
the famicom / super famicom game are just trial maps, with no story or characters whatsoever
the two gba games add a story and characters but it's light hearted and goofy
the first DS game gets a bit dank
the second DS game (days of ruin) goes full grimdark
>>316816135
Well, its just that i played FE awakening and i will get fates but the when i was on/feg/people where only discussing waifus, my expectations became lower, so i just hope the pairings would be canon, if not its fine i guess,
>>316816383
>goes full grimdark
then you go to the tactics room and it's all goofy again.
>>316816135
Also didnt say i would pick because of the girl but the story and gameplay, there are some cute girls but thats not the main reason.
>>316816383
>the second DS game (days of ruin) goes full grimdark
And is it a good thing? Like the story is dark like smt games?
>>316816901
It's more like babby's first war stories worthy of cringeness.
>yfw you heard more than 3 seconds of waylons theme
>>316814539
>>316816605
There is no romance or waifushit in AW, ignore the other guys. Some cute female characters =/= waifu game.
Also Days of Ruin is completely separate from the 3 previous games.
Either play 1, 2 and Dual Strike in order, or just play Days of Ruin right away.
All the games are good.
>>316817468
still better than WAR IS FUN
>>316816383
super famicom wars had CO's actually
http://www.warsworldnews.com/wp/category/sfw/co-sfw/
>>316818662
I see. Thats kinda a relief. Thanks man, gonna emulate the game.
DoR = post-apocalyptic
1, 2, DS = High School Drama War Tactics
>>316810465
I agree. Better for Advance Wars to go out with a good game, rather than become a shell of its former self.
honestly nothing was as fun as playing pass around.
>>316818807
>1, 2, DS = High School Drama War Tactics
wat
that's just plain false
>>316798510
>edgy
Nice meme word. DoR is the best advance wars because the core gameplay and balance took huge leaps over the original games.
>>316819297
only because each kept adding a bigger tank
>>316819267
DS turned the whole thing into a over the top goofy snooze fest with shitty petty drama
>>316812956
DoR did well for the series standards actually.
>>316814539
>Is the story good?
It's all right. The characters are pretty damn good though.
>Should i play the other games before this one?
Yes, only because they're great games and worth playing, but DoR's gameplay advancements might kind of spoil them for you. I don't know how it took them so long to make Navy not total shit.
>>316797830
which one is the best one for DS? I never played any of the DS ones
>>316814539
Story was never a strong point for Advance Wars (though I will say video game stories in general don't really impress me), but the earlier games before DoR have a distinctive and unique style that people tend to like. The strength of AW is in the gameplay and that distinct style.
AW, AW2, and AWDS are connected, DoR is its own thing with a different universe and characters. Each game does different things better than the others, IMO:
AW - best campaign
AW2 - most well-rounded
AWDS - most content
DoR - best core gameplay/balance
>>316820520
I should also add that I think AW1 has the best tutorial. It would be a pretty good idea to try starting there.
>>316820520
I see. For me the games look really interesting, and to know each has something better makes me want to play every game. Going to download the gba games so i can play on my mobile. The ds ones will emulate it on the pc, DoR is almost finished downloading.
>>316820796
Maybe i will start from the first one then.
>>316819440
>the mission that introduces War Tanks
>they look just like Mega Tanks
>NPC's freak out because it's the most super-powerful awesome tank ever and whatever
>it's just a medium tank
did they ever say howAPCs could refuel and rearm planes?
>>316822641
A really, really long robotic arm
>>316822641
Jetpacks
>>316822641
Or howaircrafts could be ambushed by submerged submarines?
>>316823492Laser pointers
>>316823492
I thought subs could only attack with torpedos.
>>316824481
That's right, but if an air unit tries to pass over a submerged sub, it still gets stuck.
Is there any good clone of Advance Wars for theVita
have you guys ever felt that DoR Battleships moving and firing in the same turn was overpowered?
No other player ever used one against me, so I wouldn't know
>>316827659
They're not really overpowered because they're so expensive. It's more like the old battleship was such a ripoff that the new, usable one seems overpowered because of how big of a leap forward it was.
>>316819440
And then they have the decency to add a hard counter to said bigger tank.
Also it wasn't a broken mess like DS.
Days of Ruin is the best game based on this scene alone where they not only shit on the 'if you kill him, you're no better than him!' trope, but also shit on the fact that Duel Strike had the exact same scene where Will was to gutless to do it.
![15-Update_3-10[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/yGIUPBh.png "15-Update_3-10[1].png")
Remember me?
>>316828995
I think I speak for the people of the community when I say The Mayor was the best character in the game and had the best interest of the masses at his heart.
>>316827659
Nobody in the old hardcore DoR community really wanted anything to do with sea units, they all thought sea combat was hopelessly broken. If you're worried about game balance stick to land + air.
>>316811129
DOR actually never got a release in japan, only as a club nintendo reward. Weird but true.
then again DS only sold like 30k total in Japan.
>>316811614
D5 sold pretty poorly considering it's a PS4 exclusive, and Japan still is stuck on PS3s. And it only sold like 25 K in the US so far so disgaea might be on the way out too.
>>316814406
Well the production costs of games is higher for the 3ds then the ds. And since half of IS's sales are in Japan, it makes sense that they would prioritize the series that sells in Japan over the series where you're lucky to get over 50 K in Japan.
>>316829486
Sea is fine as long as it isn't forced. Something with a lake in the middle, for example, to give battleships easy access to the enemy, that's great. It's maps that don't have land fronts, island hopping maps and the like, that are degenerate because the number of viable units plummets (from most ground+air units, to only sea units+infantry)
[Defenses Multiply]
>>316828363
>It wasn't a broken mess like DS.
Puppet Master.
>>316827659
No, because Navy was shit tier in previous games.
It needed something.
Buffing battleships made subs more useful, which in turn made cruisers more useful.
That plus the addition of Carriers being able to make Seaplanes and Gunboats being super cheap transport + some small firepower made Navy finally relevant.
>>316831891
He's the final boss, he was most likely broken on purpose. They even specifically banned him for online worldwide back when that was a thing. Sensei/Kanbei/Colin on the other hand...
>>316832250
>building a submarine over a bomber
literally why
>>316797830
The final mission is a doozy.
I beat the game one summer while hanging out by my pool.
My basic strategy was to "clog up" enemy support lines. Basically just occupying space with empty APC's to stifle enemy movements and safely advance my caravan of mechs and rockets.
It was a crude strategy but it worked
>>316832548
What if there's no airports on the map?
>>316832548
Bomber can't protect itself.
Air superiority requires bombers and fighters to protect them. It's a faster strategy but it provides are smaller window of opportunity in the long term.
Naval superiority gives you invisible artillery and a mobile base for sea planes . Investing in Navy from the start pays off big time late game.
I'm so shit at this series
>>316832548
You can play him in other modes and he's still broke as in game. I know because I played against him because my friend was a faggot who loved him.
>Sensei/Kanbei/Colin
As funny as this sounds I can beat two of them with Eagle and certain other Co's. I'm not joking. We (me and my friends) used to play AW2 back when I was a kid. My friend being the faggot he is used to pick Kanbei a lot. I used to get Eagle. I think my other friend used to get Max but as long as I had one airport I was good.
Nobody could use Sensei right in our group and Colin along with Hatchi were the only ones banned.
>>316833492
it's not like fire emblem, don't be afraid to sacrifice or throw away units. can still S even losing some
>>316833713
I know that. I'm still really crap.
>>316833812
Keep trying. Play around in the war rooms as well as general vs. Pick out a CO that interest you and stick with them. Learn how to use others just in case. Too bad you can't play online with a 3DS or I would help you out.
>>316834014
Well I have a flashcart, I do this.
https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator/wiki
>>316832704
Lin to win. Air is required to keep her monster tanks in check, and if your only potential answers are battleships and seaplanes, you're going to lose before you scrounge up the money for them.
Or Greyfield or Tabitha to win if it's an island map.
>>316833419
Fighters are redundant in DoR because they don't one-shot bombers anymore. Dusters do the job equally well for less, and have the added benefit of being able to harass infantry.
Naval only works on maps specifically geared for them, and those are kind of unsavory because the changes needed to make those four units viable ruin at least ten others. If land is an option at all, investing in ships other than the rare wacky battleship play is just throwing away money.
>>316833519
>didn't ban grit
>lost in AW2 as Kanbei
damn son you guys are awful.
You know tiers and meta stuff only apply at high level play, right?
>>316828995
Fuck off, Mayor. The only thing more annoying than your civilian bullshit is Brenner constantly letting you fuck him and his men in the ass for your petty sake.
>>316814003
days of ruin cannot have sold in NA. DARK CONFLICT is what the NA VERSION was called by its retarded yankee translator team.
>>316835656
>unironically liking Babelfish Wars
shaking my head to be honest family
>>316828741
Lin best girl
Dat Taticoolmidriff!
DoR made it to where you don't pick a CO to counter pick the map, which was cool, but I didn't appreciate its darker style compared to the original AW style.
Mechanics-wise, 2>DoR>1>DS
cast:2/1>DoR>DS
>>316808328
Dark Conflict's MURRICA FREEDUMBZ FARK YEAR! level story is shit.
DAYS OF RUIN is the EU VERSION translated by a different team and the story / dialogue much closer match to the jap story.
>>316835990
>Liking war as a jolly day out where everyone has a good time.
>>316836195
well. actually the older aw titles bring back cannon fodder feels for me. the juxtaposition works. especially with veterancy.
>>316836195
Look man, you think I wanna play a realistic war game, with nothing but solemn tones throught? Fuck naw, I like my happy anime war game with Monkey D Luffy as my CO.
But don't misconstrue my message, I loved all of them.
>>316835916
uh. have you READ my posts? I hate dark conflict. feels like a different game entirely compared to days of ruin. it's crappy merican translation shits up the story so hard.
>>316837204
days of ruin is what it's called in the US
>>316837204
Days of Ruin was the US release that got a localization.
Dark Conflict is the European/Australian machine translation.
I think you're mixing them up on purpose just for shitposting's sake.
>>316837452
I NEED MORE TABITHA ARTLash is also acceptable
>>316836195
Don't they say that the units are robots?
They mention it in DoR, when talking about why you can't just roll your army from the previous map to the next one
>>316798510
Dual Strike was the piece of shit that killed the series. It flopped so hard they decided to develop the next game for a western audience only, not releasing it in Japan.
Thread theme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH5-H3_5ISY
>>316835656
>>316836005
But wait, wasn't the NA version Days of Ruin, and the EU version Dark Conflict?
Superior mayor coming through
>>316825071
I know theres that sony one called field commander on PSP.
>>316834458
Are you looking for a game?
It sure sounds like it, but since that never actually happens, I feel I should ask for clarification.
>>316840607
It's getting a bit late for me to vidya and I'd get rekt anyway.
Sorry. Next thread?
>>316840782
Sure thing.
we should do a netplay sometime
>>316839369
>And if that happens, we're all going to die horribly!
>Wait, that's not a pun.
>>316843669
yeah, we should.
Do any DS emulators support netplay? What about GBA?
>>316843669
Which game, and how?
>>316843861
yes, but DS didn't have a wifi battle function
>>316843878
Our options are AW1, 2, or DoR.
I did a poll last year and more people were wanting to play Black Hole Rising, GBA netplay is so easy even I could do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nkEiubJXb0
>>316835656
>>316839023
I'm not sure. All I know is, as an Amerifat, the version I bought was called Days of Ruin.
>>316809992
>Marry your COs
>Child COs
>Love blooming on the battlefield
Let's go boys.
>>316828995
>>316829198
Fuck off mayor
>>316844391
So more Fire Emblem mechanics for CO's? As dependent as DS was on CO ability, that might not be too bad an idea to implement sort of a CO fusion mechanic.
>>316835656
no, dingus. DoR was NA, Dark Conflict was EU. US here, I bought a copy of DoR the year of release from Gamestop.
>>316844183
AWBW already simulates AW2, for the most part. Is this really much improvement?
>>316848029
I dont know what that is.
>>316848128
http://awbw.amarriner.com/
>>316848334
oh cool. What do you think of it aside from what you've already told us?
>>316844647
Personally I think a great mechanic would be combine the way COs worked in the first 3 games and in DoR. Have an overall commander and then a field officer. Overall gives smaller, but universal, buffs and the filed commander gives localized but stronger bonuses. Some characters can do both while others only can do one or the other.
>>316838157
They say that about vehicles, something about them needing to stay near factories
In the same game, Will is shocked when your infantry scout is killed, and they talk about protecting the troops for like half of the game, especially when Brenner is on screen.
>>316849092
Well robots are people too.
>>316849092
I'm guessing it is more just a thing put in t be helping them smooth over an obvious plot hole.
>>316839369
>This guy and his dumb jokes exist
>People still insist on calling DoR edgy.
>>316851135
DoR doesn't suddenly become lighthearted just because it has a comic relief character, especially given his reasons to be one. Same how the first three AWs don't suddenly become profound because of half-assed feels in the first two games and the retarded moral dilemma in AWDS.
But I wonder why people like to lump "grimdark" and "edgy" into the same pile these days.
This is one of my favorite series, although I've honestly never beaten a single one of the games. But I've played them all at some point, although I literally only popped in DoR once and went into the War Room just to see how it felt compared to the rest of the series.
With 2, I got right up to the penultimate level before my save data got erased, so that pissed me off. Maybe I'll beat it one day.
Dual Strike, I'm pretty damn far into it, but I stopped playing because of my ADD. But I'm pretty sure I'm into the last 3/4ths of the game or so.
First one I played on an emulator way back but I don't think I got very far into it.
It's a really hard series. Brutal difficulty at times.
Also the music of the series is really underrated.
I'm really hoping we get a new one someday.
>>316819440
>DS had stealth fighters
>they hard counter everything even themselves
>>316855092
>unimpressive damage all around
>gets btfo by a fighter if you don't get first strike
>easily boxed in with infantry and left to starve if you try to do anything cute with it away from the front lines
If you're gonna blow that much money on one unit, at least make it a black bomb.
>>316797830
When I got days of ruin I sold dual strike and I regret it very much.
>>316837452
>machine translation
Please. It was a good translation.
>>316839369
>>316843669
>DS
>netplay
I fucking wish
>>316834934
We didn't ban Grit because half of the maps we used Grit had a disadvantage. This was during AW2 mate.
>You know tiers and meta stuff only apply at high level play, right?
It doesn't make Puppet Master any less broken in DoR. He's the main reason why that game isn't balanced. Even if you ban him the game is still a pain in the ass with a lack of options. I wanted someone like Sami not Will. A person exactly like Sami.
>>316861213
AW2 is Grit's best game by far. His stats are a lot worse in AW1, and he struggles in DS because other CO's SCOPs kill him before he can set up, or, if he manages to, he gets demolished by black bombs.
>lack of options
well memed. With barely a third of the CO's, DoR has twice as much variety as DS.
>>316862187
Advance Wars is the one thing Gamefaqs was good for.
But Adder is hands down the most powerful commander across all games.
>>316862187
>With barely a third of the CO's, DoR has twice as much variety as DS.
That was the problem. It had a lack of options. I had to pick either Waylon or Revenge girl. I couldn't have both options. I couldn't have a Sami only option. I had to deal with a person that was a weird fusion ha of Max/Sami/Whatever. Lyn was useless outside of FoG against anyone else, especially Puppet Master.
I have DoR. I have almost all of them but AW1 but the point is DoR isn't the best game. It's a matter of opinion on which one is the 'best' and you're not going to change my mind on it mate.
I like AW2 the most out of all of them but it doesn't mean it's the best game.
>>316862925
>Lyn was useless outside of FoG
Yeah you never played this with anyone.
What still interests me, though, is your apparent phobia of the word Caulder. It kind of reminds me of NessHelper, our series's best lolcow. Are you hiding something from us, anon?
>>316863367
What the fuck is that image of Lin...
>>316862490
>tfw no war room convo about smackdown rat soup
