What the FUCK?! What kind of father is the one who carries the baby around when the mom is right there??
>>316662358
>black baby
You thought we wouldn't notice did you senpai.
but then he wouldn't get killed in bethesda's forced narrative
we can't have that happening
Hate op
wtf ru talking about asshole
>>316662358
daddy issues: the post
>>316662413
My female character is asian
>>316662524
The lighting is shit then
>>316662358
Into the >>>/trash/ it goes!
>>316662524
This is actually the lowest settings, running on a HP Pavilion G7 laptop. It fucking slow but it works and still looks better than the console version.
>>316662435
It's ridiculous, Bethesda didn't even change the entire animation sequence where your husband gets shot instead of the wife.
>>316662358
What's wrong with a father wanting to hold his own child?
>>316662358
That whole intro was stupid and contrived to show off the 1950s shit to the normies who bought the game because of TV commercials.
The whole story is awful in every respect.
>>316663265
It's not masculine. Red blooded American men smash their own infant children underfoot.
>>316663265
>his
>>316663265
Realistically, most women would want to hold their babies in a dangerous situation so the man, who's 75+ pounds heavier and around 7-10 inches taller can defend them.
>>316663398
>That whole intro was stupid and contrived to show off the 1950s shit to the normies who bought the game because of TV commercials.
Good point.
>>316662358
is his canon name seriously Nate
my best bro's name is Nate and he loves Fallout
>>316662813
Keep telling yourself that you have an better experience than ps4 owners with your shitty shitty pc
>>316663873
What was he going to do in a situation where bombs are raining over their heads? Realistically, the baby would be safer in the arms of the stronger, faster, more-rational and less emotional person as they rushed to the vault.
>>316663876
>>316663398
I thought it was pretty cool seeing what things were like before the war
>>316662813
>still looks better than the console
As someone who considers himself a rabid, autistic PC fan, I'm gonna have to disagree with you. Consoles don't look good but they don't look that shitty.
>>316662358
I'm sorry your father never loved you
>>316664127
You see more of that cut-scenes in the original Fallout than you do in the opening sequence of Fallout 4.
>>316663107
Watching them both just tug on a baby with their full strength was hilarious
>>316663873
>and around 7-10 inches taller can defend them.
Maybe if you're a basketball player
Why did they make Tranquility Lane utopia simulation a reality in Fallout 4 completely shitting on original Fallout lore? Is entire Fallout 4 a simulation while you are in some vault?
>>316664127
You are just locked in the house with some appliances.
>>316664293
>bethesda
>giving two shits about lore
Did you forget all about Fallout 3?
>>316662358
This also got on my nerves, No mother would let their husband hold her baby when the world is goin ham in a hand basket. they couldn't be bothered to change the sequence depending on your character? Maybe have the dad break out of his cryo tube after they take your baby from you and they blow him away?
>>316664164
>being a kek manlet
>>316664474
What a utterly nonsensical reply.
>>316664293
Yeah i cant lie the writing is shit.
>>316664462
>No mother would let their husband hold her baby when the world is goin ham in a hand basket
And no father would put up with a woman's bullshit in a life or death situation. The moment she screams and demands to hold the baby he'll say no.
>>316662358
A good father who knows that a woman can not be trusted with a child in a crisis.
Why can't a father hold his baby? What the hell difference does it make who holds it?
>>316664581
meant to reply to >>316664274 desu senpai
Here, I'll fix everything wrong with fallout 4's intro.
>game starts, character is violently woken from a cryo pod by vault technicians
>medical diagnostic team run a scan on you while you are strapped to a lab table (Face maker)
>they pull up your file about who you were (Special stats)
>all other data is corrupted because power failure or whatever
>suddenly disaster, your character escapes vault into wasteland
>man-out-of-time, amnesia, be whatever you want
Infinitely better than this "find the baby" horseshit.
>>316664818
Sounds dumb and gay. There's no hook for a narrative there, no reason to be personally invested.
>>316664915
Good, the best part of these games is wandering around, not listening to whiny ugly NPCs complain about shit.
Fallout 4 goes even further by making your canon PC the whiniest bitch of them all.
>>316664915
And a baby you know literally nothing about and have no real emotional investment in because you spend 5 whole seconds with them is?
>>316664915
Well some dumb baby might not get some people emotionally invested, especially people who arent parents.
>>316664915
Are you retarded? That's pretty much the same structure that New Vegas had which has miles better writing and dialog than Fallout 3 and 4. New Vegas spun a narrative about the world around you instead of you yourself but you seem like too much of a drooling fucking retarded to understand that.
>>316664915
>There's no hook for a narrative there, no reason to be personally invested.
>But MUH BABY is
Fuck off bethdrone.
>>316664915
>implying there's reason to be invested for a family you knew for two minutes
>>316665068
Fuck you, there has to be a main plot. There's always been a main plot, a reason to be personally invested. In 1 it was getting the water chip to save your vault. In 2 it was getting a GECK to save your village. In 3 it was finding your father. In New Vegas it was tracking down Benny and the platinum chip. I don't care if you don't like main plots, but these games gotta have 'em.
>>316665243
>Are you retarded? That's pretty much the same structure that New Vegas
No, new vegas gave you a revenge story and a mystery to solve (find out why the chip was so important). that anon's idea gives you nothing. damn armchair critics on /v/, they really don't know shit.
>>316665068
>>316665159
Fallout 4's intro is really, really bad, because we're too used to quality.
Seriously, after TLOU's introduction to get you hooked and emotionally invested, Fallout 4's is a cheap copy to get you attached.
I dont know. Bethesda needs to step it up.
You want pathos? You want families that matter?Write a better fucking story.
There's a hundred good "Father looks for his family" stories out there.
>>316664915
Was anyone personally invested by Fallout 4's into. Why the fuck am I supposed to care about a family I have only known for literally 2 minutes when SHTF. Especially babies. No one likes babies. No one thinks babies are interesting or cool. Their parents like them. Everyone else hates them. The last thing I want to interact with in a high concept escapist fantasy is someone's fucking baby.
>>316665159
That might be the reason I actually thought the main quest was emotionally intense and so many others don't like it. I didn't know how to feel and just wandered around numbly for maybe an hour when I finally found Shaun. I'd been chasing after him for so long and so single-mindedly only to find out that the situation was entirely different.
>>316665538
>TLOU's introduction to get you hooked and emotionally invested
Literally who?
>>316665310
I think Fallout needs to fuck off with the whole 'past' shit, and move forward.
I'd prefer a story that actualy involves the actual politics and problems of the wasteland; and not this cheap 'family' crap to try to get you emotionally invested.
I'd feel more emotionally invested in the story if it actually took time to build stuff up.
>>316665068
>>316665086
>>316665159
>>316665243
>>316665303
>>316665309
>>316665550
Holy fuck, /v/ is full of retards. Yes, Fallout 4's plot is bad. But replacing it with nothing is just as bad, if not worse.
>>316662358
What a sexist pig.
>>316665708
We dont want the main plot to be replaced with nothing- but we want a goddamn GOOD main story.
I'd like, for ONCE, to see a good story with politics, maneuvering, and factional exchanges, focusing on the WORLD, not on your "Family".
If you're going to have a "Family", then dont fucking build it up and tear it down in two seconds.
Dragon Age Origins made me care about my Warrior's family.It made me completely single minded about killing the asshole that betrayed my family.
>>316665243
Do you not remember most of New Vegas? The mystery of your amnesia and the people who shot you was only the main focus on a handful of quests the rest consisted of world building and other peoples problems. If the games goal was a revenge story then why didn't it end after you found Benny?
>>316665591
>thinks that just because the game didn't write a 4 page novel on the main characters personality and backstory that the game doesn't have a story at all
>what is the Half life series
>what is actual decent storytelling and not just hamfisted exposition and forced characterization
>>316665708
No it isn't. It's a video game, not a film.
>>316665928
Easy with the projecting greentext. I just said I thought the story was good. Finding the institute was a really cool moment that I thought was much closer to the ending than it was.
>>316665928
Meant to reply to
>>316665371
>>316665928
Fuck what the hell is happening? I meant to reply to this guys post >>316665708 not yours>>316666198
>>316665928
The mystery of your amnesia and the people who shot you was an important narrative hook that got you personally invested in the story that would unfold. Getting the water chip wasn't really the main plot of FO1, but it was an important narrative tool to get you to run around the wasteland and eventually come into contact with the Master. Same with FO2. Heck, even FO3 used looking for your dad as a device to embroil you in a larger conflict.
Omitting that hook entirely is a fucking asinine idea cooked up by someone who has no idea about narrative structure and just wants to find one more reason to hate Bethesda. They have enough reasons to be hated without throwing basic storytelling techniques under the bus.
How come dogmeat is the only one getting a specific companion perk? It's cool but every companion should have at least one.
>>316664915
The player will just invent in their head some idea for who their character is and go from there.
>>316665708
not really. The intro that guy explained would have been way better. No pizza is better than a pizza with turds as a topping.
>>316666647
This is what I've always done with Fallout, barring 3. It's the most fun way to play, I think. That is, when my dialogue isn't limited to 4 options that equate to yes, no, sarcasm, and question. Roleplaying is part of what made Fallout great.
>>316666904
No it wouldn't be. You dumb spergs would just bitch about having no motivation to do anything just like you're bitching about having no motivation to look for your offspring.
ITT: People who don't have children
>>316665901
>I'd like, for ONCE, to see a good story with politics, maneuvering, and factional exchanges, focusing on the WORLD, not on your "Family".
Then go play New Vegas, because it does exactly that. Not every story needs to be like that.
>>316666556
Because the main quest forces you to bring Dogmeat along even if you don't want him
>>316667021
>muh strawman
dude, I don't even think its a bad game, but the opening is poorly written and bad.
As someone else in the thread pointed out, The Last of Us tried a similar approach but actually did it well because they characterized the characters and made us empathize with them before they asked us to become invested in them.
The characterization of the protagonist's family in fallout 4 can be summarized in
>hes a babby, his name is shaun
>shes muh wife, she has a law degree
The entire population of the earth dies all in one day and im supposed to give a shit about one baby and one woman I don't even know anything about?
>>316666556
Dogmeat is actually the only one that doesn't have a perk.
>>316667021
The way they handled the whole intro is so stunningly laughably flawed that I was actually very put off and almost quit playing because I resented that some game dev would insult my intelligence so blatantly.
So for me, having no storyline would actually be an improvement.
>>316666954
I actually have a question about the new dialogue system.
My expereince with fallout is pretty limited, only new vegas and 3. But with those other two when you went down a question dialogue path to have things explained to you the conversation would loop around back to where it started or you could go back to the start of the conversation so you could explore other conversation options or ask the question again if you didn't catch everything the first time.
It seems like that isn't the case in fallout 4? Ill ask a question and then my options will be gone or different after the explanation is over and i cant get back to the root conversation menu. Is this on purpose or am I doing something wrong? Also do I need higher int for the dialogue options to make more sense? Like Ill occasioanlly get dialogue choices that literally just have the word (Sarcasm) as one of the choices along with other one word choices that leave me with absolutely no clue what my PC is going to say, even if the conversation has some context. When do the one word dialogue choices stop?
>>316667239
>complains about strawman
>does nothing but attack a strawman
In this conversation I have reiterated again and again that I am not defending FO4's main story hook. It is shitty and stupid. But omitting a story hook entirely, like in the original anon's greentext, would be fucking dumb and met with just as much ire. There is absolutely no precedent for this in the Fallout franchise.
How is this so hard for you to comprehend?
>>316667404
>When do the one word dialogue choices stop?
when you stop playing the game
>>316664041
Yes. MC = Nate, FeMC = Nora
>>316667602
Your argument seems to be that having a negative factor is better than omitting it altogether, which should be very obviously illogical.
>>316667404
That's why the new dialogue system isn't liked by older fans. All of what you just described was done by Bethesda on purpose. You are doing nothing wrong and you don't need higher INT to get more descriptive responses. It really is that dumb now.
>>316667404
Nah that's just the system. Don't worry though. You're not missing too much with the other responses. They are usually just repeats of the 'yes' with 'sarcasm' being the most unique.
Also 'sarcasm' is literally the dumbest fucking option i've ever seen implemented into a dialogue wheel. It's not a fucking sentence. It's a noun. It's a fucking tone of voice. That single option tells me nothing. Is it a sarcastic 'yes', a 'maybe', a 'no'? Am I just going to act like a salad-tosser when I push that option?
>>316668112
The worst part is, there is no consistency with what the MC will say when you use sarcasm, so you can't even learn a type of sarcasm that they will respond with.
>>316667749
Even if the story's fucking stupid it's still a story, a framework that contextualizes the actions of the player and his role in the world at large. You can't just say it's bad and thus it's better to remove it entirely. Would you remove all graphics because the graphics are bad? Would it be appropriate to remove all shooting because the shooting is wonky? We are talking about removing key elements to the game's functionality, and whether you like it or not, a story hook is fucking important in an RPG because STORY is fucking important in an RPG. Imagine if FO1 just started with you hanging around in Shady Sands. Nothing happens, you're just there, just some guy. It'd be fucking shit.
>>316667198
> the main quest forces you to bring Dogmeat along even if you don't want him
Are you having trouble? Never used him for any quests.
>>316668415
You didn't get to the Valentine story arc then.
>>316667198
But you can kill the dog, right?
>>316663873
But since the man's stronger he can get the baby out of danger faster if something goes wrong. Given that they were making a mad dash for the vault it makes sense she'd trust him to get their son there.
>>316668508
Wrong.
>>316668290
My favourite was how "Sarcastic" at one point made my female character flirt with an old lady. Thanks Bethesda.
>>316664293
what part of that contradicts with fallout 1 lore?
>>316662358
OP: The sort of a man who 'babysits' his own child.
>>316667636
This was the single most immersion breaking plot hole in the entire game. Forget about how the game forces you to play only one type of character and you get no choice, there is still NO FUCKING WAY my character in any possible interpretation would ever marry someone called "Nate".
Jesus cunting christ. That's not even a real name. "Nate". What the fuck.
>>316668350
>Imagine if FO1 just started with you hanging around in Shady Sands. Nothing happens, you're just there, just some guy. It'd be fucking shit.
Not the same guy.
But I'd have no problem with that. If you'd actually played Fallout 1, you'd know how fucking annoying the water-chip fetch bullshit is. And the game benefits whenever you're not dealing with it. It's removal would have benefited the story. And other than that, you being pushed out of the vault in 1 is entirely different compared to the shaun-hunt of FO4.
>>316668350
I think what's needed is a compromise between story and no story. You're right, a framework is needed. It should be a loose framework, though. Something that gives you and over arching objective, but doesn't give you a wife and a kid and establish that your character was in the military. Part of the reason so many don't like the story, I think is because you can no longer create and roleplay your own character. Now you are forced into to being a middle aged dad looking for his son.
>>316668745
>Forget about how the game forces you to play only one type of character
Where does the game force you to do this?
>>316668916
By giving your character a kid, a wife/husband and an establishes background.
>>316668448
You know he doesn't replace your companion right? He will just follow you around and go to the breadcrumbs. I had Nick with me the entire time I did that quest.
>>316668916
Every time the stupid fucking bitch opens her mouth, she acts like a ditzy and friendly housewife. Sometimes you can also make dad-tier jokes, but other than that you have no input on what kind of character she is.
>>316664915
There is no story to get invested in Bethesda's Fallouts anyway, the main appeal of these games is just aimless exploration and fucking around doing sidequests so it would work just fine
>>316666003
>not a film.
Using muh famuly is fucking cheap shit to get the audience invested in a story because they can immediately identify with a character.
>>316668991
Well all that does is force you to be canonically bisexual instead of lesbian/gay. I dont see a problem with that.
>>316669053
That could be more of an issue though.
>>316668856
>middle aged dad looking for his son.
This is partially why I find the plot of FO4 so fucking boring. Especially since we have absolutely not characterization of the kid and the father.
>>316669098
What if you want to be a character that isn't middle aged and has a kid?
>>316669098
And be married.
And owning a house in a nice neighborhood.
And being part of the military.
And living before the bombs hit (did this ever matter?)
Also you're playing as a character that can only say 'yes', 'maybe', 'more info', and 'sarcasm'.
There is no roleplay in FO4. This is a shooter-game with lite-rpg elements.
>>316668290
>>316668636
>choose "sarcastic" when talking to Captain Cornflakes
>I'll send you to hell you mercenary motherfucker
what is sarcastic about this statement
>>316669058
>Using muh famuly is fucking cheap shit to get the audience invested in a story because they can immediately identify with a character.
>mfw the moment the bombs dropped I was zipping out of the house and halfway down the street
>mfw I wouldn't have remembered the baby existed If I hadn't heard nate shout "ILL GET THE BABY" Right as I hauled my ass out the door.
>mfw felt nothing when shaun was kidnapped and nate was killed
Either Im a jaded, cynical sociopath or there has got to be a better way to actually get me invested in that family.
I don't know why you would think a player would be invested in a baby that does literally nothing and a spouse you've known for two minutes
At least 3 gave you a few scenes to theoretically care about your dad even if you didn't. You could at least maintain the illusion that they were trying to get you to get the player invested in finding him later.
>>316669308
I hope I'm not the only one who renamed his gun "Golden Crunch".
>Male character was in the army, explains why you can just pick up a gun and be cool with everything
>you could have had 0 intelligence or 0 perception and still made it out of a war alive, it happens
>your wife carries your baby, mothers instinctive natures kicking in and shit
>game makes sense
>go female
>you have a degree in fucking LAW, ridiculous if you have 1 int
>pick up a gun and start killing everyone in the wasteland no biggie
>your husband is hogging your kid
Its fucking hilarious how something as simple as GENDER breaks the role playing aspect of the game in the first 5 fucking minutes
>>316667198
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>>316662524
>ela
What a stupid name haha lol
I didn't see people complaining about forced characters in GTA V, Witcher 3 or Metal Gear Solid V.
>>316669385
They put literally 0 thought into the female character being the MC, and generally RPG and story elements altogether. Todd has no interest in that talky shit, it's only still in the game because he can't get away with completely removing it.
>>316669319
No you're not. A good story has to give you more than: this guy has a wife and kid or that chick has a mom FEEL BAD FOR THEM.
>>316662358
It's 2077 you cishet shitlord
>>316669463
Those are not RPGs
>>316669319
>there has got to be a better way to actually get me invested in that family.
By spending more than 5 minutes with them before they are taken away. It wasn't as bad in 3, because you see a lot of your character's life as they grow up and the dad is always there, thus giving him characterization and making your care.
>>316669463
Because they are not RPGs in series where you have ALWAYS been able to pick your character and decide what they are like, and they are not games that pretend to do that while completely failing.
Actually in The Witcher you get more choice over what kind of Geralt you have than you get over your character in Fallout 4. And fucking loads of people complain about being forced to play Geralt in The Witcher.
>>316669463
GTA V and MGSV aren't RPGs. The Witcher 3 actually had an established fleshed out character, not a lazy in inbetween of self insert and actual character, and it wasn't in a franchise with a history of you making your own character.
>>316669527
Yes they are. You play the role of the character.
>>316669319
>Either Im a jaded, cynical sociopath
Nope it's just lazy story-telling.
Any writer worth their salt knows that characterization is king. It's why you probably can't remember the name or look of a Fallout 3 companion right now (other than dogmeat). To put it simply, the son and the other parent are not characterized and bethesda didn't care.
I saw someone arguing that a narrative hook has to exist, and it does. But I'm pretty sure Bethesda was all like 'nobody gives a shit about this story. Make it four minutes long and get them into the wasteland. They're playing this game to loot shit."
>>316669605
By that logic Gran Turismo is an RPG, Call of Duty is an RPG, Mario is an RPG, etc.
>>316669605
You don't get to create those characters and make them what you want. In Fallout, you could. With the exception of 3.
>>316669463
In Fallout 1 you are FORCED to be vault dweller, I mean HOLY SHIT where are the RPG elements?
>>316669639
>It's why you probably can't remember the name or look of a Fallout 3 companion right now (other than dogmeat)
Hey I remember Fawkes because I remember how fucking stupid it was that he couldn't activate the Purifier.
>>316662813
Actually looking at the specs of your laptop I'm hopeful that my laptop can actually run fo4 on my laptop. Mine has a faster processor, more ram and a better dedicated graphics card.
I might pick it up now.
>>316669760
They are. Role Playing Game is a buzzword that usually means "adventure game with inventories and skill trees"
>>316668745
>implying your name is any better
>>316669605
Oh stop with this tripe. Fallout has always been a crpg. And there's only one crpg that ever did a forced protagonist correctly.
Besides, it says something about FO4 when I have more control over what kind of character Geralt is than I do my middle-age dad with a shaun-complex.
>>316669829
Lel, the same here. And he had a memorable name. If you told me him and Dogmeat were the only companions in Fallout 3 I'd believe you.
>>316669783
The point is you were just a vault dweller,there wasnt any other personal stuff already attached to your character,thus giving you the ability to self-insert,or actually ROLEPLAY as a role you choose.
>>316663873
>honey, hang on to the kid while I punch the nukes out of the air
>>316669829
Who?
>>316669853
Are you fucking serious or just baiting? I really hope you're baiting. Do you not understand what roleplaying is? It's being able to create a character that you want to create and letting them have the personality you want them to have. Things Fallout has always done.
>>316669896
That CRPG was Baldur's Gate.
Bethesda INVENTED the "ARPG".
>>316669783
But you get to pick what kind of person the Vault Dweller is in dialogue, you don't get that choice in Fallout 4.
>>316669983
roleplaying is the ability to move a plastic figure across a 40 x 40 inch piece cardboard using restraints defined by your imagination, and none other.
>>316669994
Bethesda invented something shitty in FO4 when it comes to roleplaying. I won't deny that.
>>316669994
>Bethesda INVENTED the "ARPG".
Why the fuck would you even think that? Of course they didn't.
>>316670126
Enlighten my asshole.
>>316669994
Just like WoW invented MMORPGs right?
>>316670102
>restraints defined by your imagination
It's the same with video games. You are given more, but there's no reason you can't add to what's going on in the game with your own imagination. It's only limited by how immersed you want to be and how much effort you are willing to put in.
>>316670168
When do you think they apparently did this?
>>316670201
No. Blizzard took an idea and said, "that's looks pretty shitty, but what if we put it on a massive metaserver?". There was nothing to be invented there.
>>316668745
Nate is short for Nathan though
>>316669304
Er, if you're going to complain about this, then complain about the entirety of Lonesome Road in New Vegas for pulling the same forced backstory shit
>>316670269
Elder Scrolls Arena was originally intended to be a dueling combat game, but they decided it needed board game mechanics, combining 'action' with 'rpg'.
>>316662358
Better babby mod when?
>>316662435
>implying the Survivor won't be a canon male in F5
>>316670352
It's also a terrible name.
Only name worse than that is Hunter.
>>316670421
Real talk here, have you ever actually played an Ultima game in your life? I don't mean read about them on wikipedia, but actually played?
>>316670498
There are plenty of other terrible names out there
>>316670498
Tron
Jesus
Hitler
Shanneiqua
>>316670530
I don't play "RPG"s.
>>316670680
That's why you enjoy Fallout 4.
>>316670560
True.
There's a bunch of names for guys that prove that your parents don't deserve to have you, like Aiden, Jaiden, Kaiden, Braiden, Raiden, Maiden, Haiden, Asher, and Jake.
Why did they write the protagonist to be so shitty?
I would have been okay if they went full on mass effect, but it's just shitty that the dialogue is reduced to short phrases that don't affect anything.
>>316670530
goddammit you're making me want to go back to my UO freeserver
>>316670418
I already did. But even then Lonesome road didn't define my character's entire personal life and backstory. Until then you were just someone who took on a mail job and got shot in the head.
And honestly having a force backstory wouldn't be so fucking bad if the main character didn't have shit writing, limited responses, and terrible voice-acting for the male. Also if one of those responses wasn't always "sarcasm".
Really, Fallout 4 has no roleplaying elements. ME and Witcher have better options and one of those games forces your gender, profession, and entire backstory.
>>316670731
Why would I enjoy something because I hate something else?
>>316670762
Did you know the Fallout 4 voice director's name is literally Kal-el
His dad actually named him after fucking Superman
Wait, what, does FO4 have George Clooney as a VA?
>>316670498
>not naming your kid after the last great American
https://youtu.be/NHeSC_Ws5Ic
>>316670871
One of the main complaints is the there is no ability to role play in Fallout 4. You don't enjoy roleplaying anyway, so this doesn't affect you, thus affecting your opinion of the game.
Was that so hard to piece together?
>>316670762
>>316670602
>>316670560
Hunter is the worst name. All of you are objectively wrong.
The only thing that comes close is the kid named Dovahkin.
>>316670882
No, but Danse sounds a lot like him
>>316670762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxqCGTkV5wg
>>316670873
Is his dad Nick Cage?
Either way, at least his name isn't Kalaiden. Because then he should kill himself.
>>316670970
What about Gunner?
>>316670953
>what is an outside opinion
>>316671051
I made an observation on the facts you gave me.
>>316671043
I feel like his dad felt gimped at being named 'John,' the most boring name of all time, so he wanted to name his son something wacky as fuck
>>316671110
You mean the theories I gave you.
>>316670910
>>316671016
>>316670762
>>316670602
What is /v/ going to name their kid?
Post so everyone can tell you how fucking terrible it is.
>>316670680
Anyway, Arena just used Ultima Underworld's combat system copied and pasted, but added in the pseudo open world stuff. Ultima Underworld is literally the most influential game of the 90s, it kickstarted ID to start the FPS genre. It's the granddaddy of first person games.
so can i edit the guy then switch over to the woman and edit her too or will it reset the other to default?
>>316671150
>I don't play "RPG"s.
That's a theory?
>>316671225
Sounds primitive and limited, to be quite honest.
>>316669385
Albert did it first, man.
>>316671316
What are you even trying to communicate in this post?
>>316671234
I'm grounded in your mom's pussy, not science.
>>316671231
You get both.
Don't bother editing the one you're not playing. If you want to race-mix, change the skin-color you kek. But you're kid literally doesn't change based off features.
>>316671234
>>316671361
I think he's just trolling.
>>316671219
Hunter, Hadrian, or George
>>316671386
I'm surprised civil discussion lasted this long. It had to end sometime.
>>316671361
Based on what you've said alone, it seems like the developers of the game spent so much time on innovation that they had throttle back in terms of storytelling and playing of roles.
>>316671489
Well yeah but I'm bored as fuck, thus playing along. Too tired to play Fallout, just shitposting about it.
>>316662358
The kind of father that has a INDEPENDENT WOMYN FOR A WIFE SHITLORD
IT'S 2015
>>316671219
My kids name is Isaac.No, not after Binding of Isaac you fucking faggot.
>>316671526
Which game? What are you even talking about?
>>316671621
wow what a fucklong
>>316671651
Ultimate Shitlord the so called grand-daddy to BUNGiE's genre.
>>316671219
Jack. It's bland and unoriginal, but I like the ring to it.
>>316670762
brent, trent, doug, todd, jessi, sean, dean, and rusty
>>316670818
>Witcher
>Roleplaying
It's the exact same shit like in FO4 with a set character. It's even worse there because Geralt has a largely defined personality and doesn't deviate much from it.
Don't use ME and TW in the same sentence when comparing roleplaying.
>>316662358
>planned on leaving the bitch with the kid in 2-3 years
>not ready for this level of responsibility
>start thinking about dealing with this int he vault for the rest of my life
>panic and huck the baby off the pad as the elevator goes down when everyone's distracted
>>316667636
I named my MC "max" and codsworth greets me as "mister max" fully voiced
Are some other common names fully voiced?
>tfw just beat the Institute questline
Blowing the fuck our of the Brotherhood of Steel was satisfying as fuck. Fuck those righteous assholes.
What do I do next /v/, Railroad ending or BoS?
Saving Minute Men for last because that'll be my main save.
>>316671219
david desu
>>316671745
You're not very good at this. I'm sorry anon, I'm trying to play along and get mad but this is just getting tedious now.
>>316671819
Shitlord and Cis Scum are both fully voiced.
>>316671506
How could one man be filled with so many terrible ideas.
>>316671621
Sounds like some urban fuck that stole my tv last tuesday.
>>316671769
Better hope he doesn't play rising and get the edgy-phase where he's running around outside saying "let'er'rip".
>>316671797
>Geralt has a largely defined personality and doesn't deviate much from it.
You actually have quite a bit of influence on Geralt's personality in W3. There aren't many scenes that don't give the player control when it comes to Geralt's turn to speak.
>>316671621
i assumed deadspace.
>>316671870
Maybe you shouldn't try out-shitpost a shitposter next time, senpai, I'm out.
>>316662358
What the FUCK?! What kind of gamer is the one who picks the girl character option when the male option is right there??
>>316671930
It's normally more fun than this.
Why the fuck was the guy from vault tec so worried?did he know?
>>316671219
Christian Chandler Jr.
>>316671819
>Are some other common names fully voiced?
Yes, it was a really big deal during the E3 reveal back in June
There's a growing list on
>>316671819
Common names and pop culture names. He will call you fuckface and boobies.
>>316671797
>Don't use ME and TW in the same sentence when comparing roleplaying.
I will. Because both do it better than Fallout 4.
Over the Witcher series I've had more control over what Geralt says and thinks than I do over fallout dad. He's always a concerned parent who always has dumbass, vague responses.
>>316672054
The MEMES, Jack!
>>316669304
I liked the military part.
honestly why didn't they give us a list of options and then also just have an option for other where the audio involving his background would jsut be ommitted.
>>316671898
>Hunter S. Thompson
>Great Roman emperor and architect
>George Orwell
I know you're shitposting, but c'mon
>>316671898
>urban
Just say nigger, you nigger.
>>316672054
>>316672101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMSZIsy8tbA confirmed here
>>316672121
Okay. I said nigger, you nigger.
>>316672109
Hunter = white trash that hangs out with Cletus.
Hadrian = easy bully fodder "Hehe, you're dad named you after a faggot".
George= boring name for the underachiever in life.
>>316672259
yeah but you're factually incorrect
>>316672259
George is a pretty standard name m8.
>>316668682
That everything is completely fucked by 2077. Mass-riots in the major cities, blackouts, fuel shortage, not a happy 50's style utopia.
>>316672140
Does anyone other than Codsworth use your name?
>>316672379
Thus it's a boring name for the average underachiever in life.
>>316672361
Well... You got me.
It's a little difficult to run a social experiment to determine if people name Hunter are both white trash and hang out with a jobber named Cletus.
>>316672434
Nope
>>316672434
Just Codsworth. The novelty wears off quickly.
>>316672550
Exactly, faggot
plus everyone knows the Romans were the height of humanity
>>316671965
yes he knew, when you tell him no he gets nervous as fuck
its so obvious bethesda are making it so that vault tec mastermind everything to run the vault experiments
>>316672434
Not that I'm aware of
>>316668112
word for word taken from superbunnyhop
>>316672140
what about sandman?
>>316672619
Was it ever actually canon that Vault-Tec masterminded the war?
>>316671965
>>316672619
I wish you could've kept the Vault-Tec Rep as a companion. At least you can invite him to live in Sanctuary Hills with you.It would've been nice to have him as a romance option too. Poor guy deserves some love after what happened to him.
(You're not a freak, Reppy, you're beautiful the way you are.)
>>316672737
Rather, was it NOT canon that they did.
>>316672617
And Hadrian was the height of faggotry. Who starts a religion over the loss of their nubile boy-ass? Hadrian does.
>>316672737
Hah, no. F3 jokingly implied that aliens dropped the first bomb, but it's not canon either.
The actual 'canon' answer is that "no one knows who launched the first nuke."
The whole no shadows at the start is really annoying me. Was it just a bug that I've seen time and time again or does the vault really have no shadows or even people shadows? whats up with that?
>>316672727
Who?
And how does it make my opinion less valid if it's shared by someone else? My opinion isn't a special snowflake.
>>316662813
Whats your frame rate?
>>316672917
The whole interior of the vault felt flat and boring to me. The lack of shadows only made it worse.
>>316672416
Does the Fallout Lore say that Boston was completely fucked by 2077?
Maybe that was one of the few places that was reasonably normal before the nukes.
>>316672737
aliums
>>316666003
>>316669058
Fucking this.
>>316672839
>not starting a war over the best booty in the empire
Hadrian is considered to be one of the five great emperors, among Trajan and Marcus Aurelius
>>316665708
No, I'm tired of
>"You can be anyone you want!!!"
>...As long as that someone who is a parent that was also in the military (or lawyer) and a concerned father/mother who has to go out and find his son and only expresses himself through
A: YES!
B: NO
Y: Maybe?
X: Don't know
Even Fallout 3 allowed more role playing.
>>316671852
Minute Men exist solely for "radiant" infinite quests and have storyline.
Do them along with railroad since it won't change anything and with the BoS you bully people into your protection.
>>316671219
sven
if girl svetlanaI'm not sweedish
>>316664293
No they didn't, play the fucking game, retard.
>I MUST FIND MY SON!
>NO FATHER I FATHER!
>and then i hated newspaper
>>316664293
>he doesn't know about the pre-war advertisements for Jet
I don't know how they let that one slide, considering it was kind of a major subplot in Fallout 2 and not just a piece of setting fluff.
>>316671219
Jericho.After my brother, since it will be a miracle if he lives 5 more years.
>>316664083
pc has console commands and day one mods.
discussion over.
>>316665708
>what is planescape torment?
>oh the greatest fucking RPG that was ever made?
>sounds bad i like fo4 because you have a baby haha! :)
kill yourself.
>>316668916
KILL THIS SETTLEMENT OF PEOPLE BECAUSE WE DONT LIKE THEM
PEACEFUL RECONCILIATION?
WHATS THAT LOL!?
(A) DURR OKAY
(Y) RAPE CORPSES?
(X) SARCASTIC
(B) HATE PEACE
>>316670418
lonesome roads didnt force a backstory though, all it did was say that youd been a courier for at least 2 years and that you carried packages to the divide
that is the full extent of the "forced backstory" in lr
>>316675783
>responsible for literally hundreds of deaths
>responsible for driving ulysses nuts
>responsible for creating the divide
>not forced backstory
k
>>316662358
A compassionate and caring father who love his son.
That is your answer.
>>316676005
>responsible
>literally just delivered a package you may or may not have known what it contained
>>316676005
and the game explicitly states that you were just doing your job as you would with any other package
>>316676094
>who love his son
>his son
>his
the kids black anon.
