Have you unlocked The Keeper yet, /v/?
>>316658083
Take your shitty meme game back to reddit.
Man I love these rune rooms
>hey guys let's make the lost actually fun to use
>then let's introduce a character that's shittier than even pre-d4 lost
I think my save got fucked up on Import.
I can't go past Isaac/Satan while playing as Isaac, its showing me that I haven't beaten certain final bosses as people I have already beaten said bosses with (and unlocked the things they give), but its kind of random in that regard.
Fuck everything is fucked up.
>>316659545
Yesterday's update fucked things up for me a little, for some reason The Lost was locked again for me and I had to re-unlock him all over again. Doesn't take too long but still, shit's annoying.
Since Afterbirth, my death count is also lower than it should be.
Bump
If the thread dies I'll try later
so this game needs a few things
pushable blocks/graves that could lead into mini puzzles in rooms.
moving platforms
item specific chests item rooms rocks where it is a certain color and if you shoot it unlocks it. can be messed up by you picking up the wrong combo or picking up to much stuff.
enemies that flicker different colors and you have to match them and if you do the doors open.
wall switches or puzzles.
rooma with 2-3 levels just like zelda
a dice item that the higher the roll it gives you random benefits like 10= a damage up item.
an item that allows you to pick up rocks and pots and you can toss them to damage enemies
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multiplayer modes
isaac vs isaac
huge level 1 boss and 2 item rooms with up to four items in one item room
item rooms can have enemies or weak bosses.
your only goal is to defeat the isaac the boss room is open as well but the other iaaac can come in ans kill you and take your boss kill and devil room. make it so you can hear the other isaac using bombs keys and shooting things. could make powerups like sound modifiers so some items make different noises or puts the noise the opposite way. also stealth would be good for this mode. should add footprints if isaac is close. if you defeat an isaac you get some times some of your enemies upgrades somwtimes not.
just you gotta worry about the new isaac on the next level.
item selection.
both sides will have the opposite sides items laid out for them
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>>316662000
>mini puzzles
Kill yourself
I've been going straight for angel rooms for about 6 runs, and the only item I got was the Scroll item.
What the fuck.
Fuck Hush
>>316663290
Devil and Angel Rooms are now really shitty, some super secret room variants are also horrible too.
>>316662819
Proper, actual co-op is the one thing I want, the baby thing is retarded. Let player two use an actual character.
More curses like say one where you have to beat the boss first before getting special rooms and/or the exit may not be too bad either. They should change the way the game is played a bit instead of depriving information from the player or giving them a minor annoyance.
>>316663605
Well, I guess that puts those deal rooms on even ground.
>>316658083
>doing hush runs on hard mode with every character
>easily beat him on the first try with every character (i haven't tried the lost yet) except lazarus
>every lazarus run i get nothing but absolute dog shit items and 0 devil/angel room aside from the guaranteed one at basement 2, even if i take 0 damage
it fucking hurts
I unlocked the negative before I unlocked it lives!
;-;
Does anyone have any advice on getting money in the Greed Machine other than just pure luck?
Whats the fastest way to get enough money in there to unlock the Keeper?
How do you unlock the Keeper?
>Edmund promises new final chapter and area
>It's actually just 4 rooms and a midgame boss you will never touch again once you get its unlocks
Why is this allowed?
>>316664878
donate 1000 coins in the greed machine, have fun with your $100 steak :^)
>>316665006
Oh cool, I already have 999 coins in that thing.
>>316664952
its 2 items (out of 4) plus a shop post the depths, and you can get items in the 4 chests in the middle
if you have a decent set-up its not bad at all.
now BOSS rush is complete dog shit and i will never do it again. how could edmund fuck it up so bad? literally all it needs is the order of bosses to change up and that's fucking IT
only 2 items now most of the time, and they are usually behind rocks or spikes. whats the fucking point?
>>316665169
gid gud ;>)
>>316665169
Edmund hates it when we have fun. I thought everyone knew this by now.
>??? and Azazel's notes are still fucked up
>can't remember what I unlocked without going through my whole achievement list
>>316662996
Hey with mini puzzles maybe it will clear all enemies out of a room so if it is quick i will appreciate it.
>>316662819
Item selection mode.
Each player has the other sides map or item selection. You have to guide and help each other out to get through the dungeoun.
if you guess a item correctly you get that item plus another or bonuses or whatever.
If one isaac dies they both die.
Marksmanship Obstacle
All items are listed that the other people get. You use less items you get bonuses, and if you get damaged the other player will see. Rooms could be bullshit and damage people but it will reward players who are skillful. Who gets damaged the least and gets a higherscore will continue on. If they have precision or skill it could earn them items. If one isaac dies the other one will still continue but it will transpher to the next level so the next isaac can see the previous score and what happened to both isaacs.
Could get bonuses if you guess close or correctly of items/how many times the person got hit.
Isaac vs Isaac update
you can make traps that the other isaac can get in to and get trapped and it will alarm you.
Also a decoy item where decoy enemies/ or another isaac would alert you.
Multiplayer item idea
A item that lets you take control of the other persons isaac for a set time.
Multiplayer Idea Rush mode.
Whoever gets through a level fastest wins and then they have to race against a new person who already won the last level.
>>316663605
That is what I want These are just vs modes I came up with other then the item selection mode.
>>316665006
So who is best for Greed runs for having an excess amount of money for the donation machine?
>tfw it jams up after putting in like 10 coins
>>316665448
>do Guardian and Speed and a few other challenges release day
>finish greed mode for half my characters
>notice my post its are fucked once i begin to play regular runs
>have to reimport everything and redo my afterbirth progress so i can see my correct post it notes
>>316665619
They should make special enemies/ bosses that have a combination of tears that you can actually get in the game.
>every Devil room has at least 1 devil item in addition to whatever red chests
>Krampus always drops Lump if you beat him unscathed, always drops Head if you take damage against him
>every Angel room has at least 1 angel item in addition to whatever hearts spawn
>taking an Angel room item doesn't lower your chance for the next two floors like a Devil deal does
There, I fixed Rebirth.
>oh cool, a new secret charact--
>0 hearts
INTO THE TRASH IT GOES!
Fuck you Edmund, I'm done with your bullshit.I'll forgive you if you make Castle Crashers 2
>>316663605
How can devil deals be shit now? They have some of the best items in the game in their pool, how could McMillen possibly fuck them up?
Have they buffed Azazel?
>>316659443
Is Keeper that bad? I feel like once he's got the wooden nickel he'd be pretty good.
>>316658083
>>316658083
I kinda stopped playing after the azazel nerf.
Not because I couldn't beat it with other character, I have the d6 on issac after all, its just I hated the fact that I kept re trying to get a item that doesn't suck on the first room and realized I wasn't having fun anymore.
Isaac is literally fucking up my membrane keyboard. I have to stop playing...
>>316666894
>not using a control
This game was made for a controller.
>>316666956
it was on PC first
>>316666585
By giving you rooms full of Black Hearts instead. as well as deals surrounded by spikes in the cardinal directions. I've had one as a small room too and thus only one deal was offered. Sometimes they have one imp in them too which might take you by surprise.
Could be me but I've noticed Krampus appears more often. He now has a spinning Brimstone attack like The Lamb, hope he isn't up against a wall or else you're bound to get hit.
Angel Rooms on the other hand? Have some of those new blue chests that have a chance of giving you fucking nothing, or even just eternal hearts. They're more likely to be even more useless.
>>316666828
Azazel got un-nerfed.
>>316666894
Use a controller
>>316666710
>50% chance to heal after every room
as opposed to
>100% chance to heal after every room
>sticky nickels
>STICKY NICKELS
>>316666997
The worst thing about Angel rooms is that you can get this.
Edmund is not making angel room runs enjoyable in the least.
>>316666984
Implying that means shit.
Would you place a racing game with mouse and keyboard anon?
Besides the game plays like black widow which I think was for the atari. That definitely used a controler.
>>316667110
You can only get those in Greed mode, and that money is probably more worthwhile in greed mode than most angel room items anyway.
>>316666710
just unnerfed
>>316666997
>Azazel got un-nerfed.
huh, well maybe I'll try getting that keeper then.
>>316666956
i've real platinum god'd rebirth and done everything but mega satan and hush as the lost for afterbirth and i only use a keyboard
>>316667110
Of course I'm not, this is a hardcore game for the most hardcore rouguelike players, there's zero fucking room for fun.
>>316666775
I think if you get the Swallowed penny with the Keeper it'd be impossible to lose unless you're retarded.
>get hit
>drop a penny
>pick it up
>heal
>>316664820
counterfeit penny
add swallowed penny with trinket bag and/or piggy bank(not sure if taken out greed mode, the other stuff still in)
than its all luck, also keep switching up characters
>>316667018
aside from completion why would you want to unlock Sticky nickels? Serious question here.
>Greed Mode as Judas
>become fucking OP as shit, wrecking through levels
>get to Sheol level
>every time I get hit, I teleport to another room and my progress is reset
>get 3 of those bosses that are like polycephalus but they shoot bullethell instead
>get teleported out a lot, finally beat it
>get to womb
>every time I take damage, I still get teleported out and the progress resets
>no trinkets, no items that do that sort of thing (as far as I know)
>quit in frustration, I know I won't have the patience to do that
What the fuck was that bullshit
>Greed mode
>get blank card
>get 2 of diamonds
Game was over right then and there, god damn that was fun.
>>316667626
Did you pick up cursed eye?
>>316667626
>no trinkets, no items that do that sort of thing (as far as I know)
Well clearly you did have something.
>>316667785
Fucking shit, I forgot that cursed eye did that because I never fucking pick it up, but it's been a while and I thought it was mom's pearl
>>316666997
hes still nerfed, just not buttfucked anymore
>Growth Hormones + Death Sickles
head looks spooky
>>316667193
>that money is probably more worthwhile in greed mode than most angel room items anyway.
>6 cents
>equivalent to a bomb
>>316667971
My point still stands
>Cain can now start with the Paperclip
>Eve can now start with the Razor
>The Lost can now start with the D4 and the Holy Mantle
>Even the Keeper can gain a few things
So why don't the other characters have unlockable starting items or trinkets? That includes
>Maggy
>Judas
>Blue Babby
>Samson
>Azazelas if he needs one
>Lazarus
>Edenhow the fuck would that work
>Lilith
Feels somewhat incomplete, at least Isaac getting the D6 made sense since he's the main character
>>316667971
However it comes at the end of a round, when you can't get any more money normally. It makes a difference when you've got 14 cents and the godhead is sitting right there in the shop and you can't get money from anywhere else.
If you're playing as Keeper and Greed boss appears what happens?
Wait? So if the keeper is in the game does that mean all the fags crying about him withholding content got btfo? I know there was the bug that originally locked the machine at 109 coins, but after that was the keeper added in a patch or had nobody just gotten to 1000 coins yet?
>>316668154
It wasn't a bug, it was intentional.
The 109 limit got removed by a patch later, but it was there to make a point.
109 was the number of hours it took for dataminers to find The Lost when the game was first released.
>>316668057
or you could maybe just get godhead free from the angel room?
>>316668210
>109 was the number of hours it took for dataminers to find The Lost when the game was first released.
Is that true? Edmund can go fuck himself the salty cunt.
>>316668397
>implying angel rooms ever have items, and if they do, they're not just shit ones like holy grail
>>316668030
Maggy: Maggy's Faith
Judas: Judas' Shadow
Eden: Eden's Blessing
Lilith already starts with 3 items.
>>316668210
>109 was the number of hours it took for dataminers to find The Lost when the game was first released.
What, so did he withhold the content for 106 hours or something?
Games fun but I think devs might a bit sensitive.
>>316668154
He was always in the game, it's just that the dataminers were bros and kept info about him hidden until the ARG was complete.
>>316668502
Ed earns for the days when kids would discuss legendary cheat codes that may or may not exists and all sorts of hidden content
He's basically sour that he's almost middle-aged and no game has secrets anymore due to dataminers.
>>316668485
Fair enough too on the latter
>>316668210
109 is also the item ID for Money is Power.
if the keeper is boring old greed, then who's the old man?
>>316668485
>Judas: Judas' Shadow
Yeah, because people need yet another reason to never touch Lazarus.
>>316668650
A red herring for dataminers.
>>316668605
But those days were shit.
Stupid fucking truck.
>>316668030
>Eden how the fuck would that work
Eden now always starts with a random trinket
>>316668674
Oh wait you're right.
Better just give Judas Judas' Tongue then.
>>316668650
Noah
>>316668880
>character based around animal summons
>starts with mulligan, infestation 2, my shadow and guppy's head
>lowered damage multiplier to avoid being too OP right off the bat
So do we have all the Afterbirth items, yet?
>>316668747
nah they were cool
your whole middleschool was working together to find a glitched out pokemon that only one person saw.
No internet but us just trying to find one pokemon.
>>316669256
Don't think so. Keeper himself only unlocks 3 items.
Boss rush is sticky nickels in runs, It Lives, Mega Satan and All on Hard is more babies, Sheol, Cathedral and Hush are existing things for Keeper to hold.
>>316669282
which is great when your a middle schooler with a community of friends collaborating together to find shit out. But imagine if instead you're just some poor sod playing the game by his lonesome, some of the shit that's hidden in games can really one be found out by chance if its not done intently, and a single lone player is never going to run across it.
>>316669440
Edmund said all the items are obtainable now. 95 items plus a bunch of trinkets
>>316669572
Edmund said a lot of things.
>can still do infinite donations with the Glowing hourglass
>>316665006
>donate 1000 coins
>$100 steak
>greed machine
wait did he
did he really like
did he really make that joke
I'm still on version 1.0, are these things timed unlocks or updates?
If it's updates that bullshit.
>We hid it so well it's not even in the game, LOL!
>>316665006
>>316665696
Just use CE or something once you beat the boss to give yourself infinite coins.
This games padding can be silly at times.
>>316670675
but that's only a 10 dollar steak at most
>>316670856
Yes, it was a real life ARG that he wanted people to solve before he finished adding in the rest of the content. A kind of bullshit way to make up for people dataming the lost and 'ruining' the experience he wanted people to have finding out about it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/3ss8oo/the_afterbirth_arg_a_stepbystep_summary/
>>316670856
Timed updates. he added more content and achievements after a certain amount of time passed and passed it off as "bugs"
He's that salty about the lost
>>316671416
Oh, right. My bad.
Shouldn't try overthinking shit at 3am.
I wish I had the webm.
>Cant do boss rush with him or else I get sticky nickels
Is edmund genuinely retarded? This expansion was terrible.
>>316669629
He doesn't want people hating him more though.
>>316669572
Didn't the DLC advertise 120+ items?
>>316671948
Seriously though why would anyone want sticky nickels. It's not an unavoidable progression unlock like the Everything is Terrible ones. You can just simply never do boss rush with keeper.
>>316671787
The source is Black Dynamite
>>316672484
thats probably the trinkets hes talking about
