Now that FO4 is out of the way, is /v/ looking forward to Elder Scrolls VI: Hammerfell?
>The world will level around the player more, it's not fair or fun to meet an enemy with more health or better gear than the player.
>NPC AI even more robotic than skyrim, absolutely nothing dynamic or unpredictable happening. Can't be having any of that.
>nothing happening in the world unless it involves the player. Can't let the AI do things, need to make the player the center of attention.
>Magic will be cut down to two schools to sop it from being complicated, Good and Bad (damage & healing)
>Cities the same size as skyrim with their 5 houses, even more nameless bandits in caves
>Horrendous writing that will have a set backstory for the MC and a storyline with a Dwemer returning to Nirn and villains
>>316636901
But anon, you're getting thalmor are jerks part 2
>>316636514
>implying they'll do another Elder Scrolls in a province they already did
Seriously, Hammerfell and High Rock were in Daggerfall
>>316636901
no one plays TES for the story. they play it for the adventure, immersion, and exploration. every TES game apart from oblivion provided this.
wherever a tower still stands that's where the game will be set
>>316636514
>nameless bandits in caves
surely you mean animals, vampires and draugr in caves
>>316638053
Only a little bit of the north, north/west coast of hammerfell was in Daggerfall. They've barely touched the landmass as a whole in a SP game.
Also
>implying the average TES player has even heard of daggerfall
>implying it's not a totally different game now anyway
>>316636514
I'm replaying skyrim and I don't think it's as bad as people say. It's really comfy and has GoAT music, awesome atmosphere.
However the game itself is mediocre and the writing/quest design is AWFUL.
>murder the emperor
>everyone knows about it
>go to join the legion
>"AYY YO, YOU SUM FINNA KINNA HERO OR SUMTIN, RIGHT NIGGA? YO YU WANNA BE ONE UH US IM-PEER-E-ULLLS?"
>Do quest to become Boethiah's champion
>literally 10 minutes later Become Molag Bal's Champion
>His quest centered around how much he fucking hated Boethiah and involved me killing one of her priests
>My status as her champion is never brought up
>level 100 conjuration, I'm the Archmage too
>Quest to get Azura's Star
>Quest suddenly treats me like I'm a retard and my character suddenly doesn't know what a fucking soul gem is and needs it explained to him
Fuck this shit.
>>316638292
modded oblivion with the likes of OOO, MMM, live another life etc had far better sense of immersion/adventure/exploration than skyrim/morrowind imo.
ten million of the most popular names
get a rideable fire breathing dragon in the first mission with awesome tachometers on the ui
roam around the world looking for dragon stones so you can refill your dragon's fire breath
build your own town and defend it
dialog options are yes, no, and question
>>316638292
can someone please tell me what casuals like so much about skyrim?
they never drop a word about the writing (which is shit anyway) so it can't be the story
everything else is repetitive as fuck
the gameplay is boring, all the dungeons are the same and the puzles might as well not exist
it doesn't even really work as a power fantasy because most enemies only stop level scaling at like level 30
>>316638672
is there a single sandbox game out there that can address every single relationship between every single attribute a character can have accumulated? are you ever going to be happy with video games?
>>316638956
nirvana fallacy
just because it's impossible to address all relationships at once doesn't mean you should not even try to express a single one
I suggest you play Gothic 1/2 sometime
>>316638814
The way I see it, vanilla skyrim & Oblivion are decent for 1 or 2 playthroughs. Nothing special, but decent enough.
However with mods, depending on what you want and how patient you are to put together a proper load order/setup, you can potentially have a fantastic gaming experience. Skyrim with Requiem, frostfall, realistic needs, expanded towns & cities, extra NPC mods, it's just a totally different gameplay experience.
>>316638956
New Vegas and The Witcher 3 (and tons of other RPGs too) handled stuff like that.
>The imperials are made hostile to you and/or don't allow you to join after murdering the emperor
>Molag-Bal stops you from being his champion because of your status or you're given a Boethiah option to complete the quest by saving the priest
>you get given a conjuration skill check that let's you tell the guy "I know what a fucking soul gem is."
>>316639287
yeah but casuals gush about how awesome and life-consuming unmodded skyrim is, how does that even happen?
even if you never played a videogame before, it has to get repetitive after the 10th cave
>>316638956
>can't address every relationship between every character
>better make it so no relationships are acknowledged at all
>even the general of the imperial legion and the FUCKING EMPEROR'S MURDERER
I'm playing Skyrim with a 2hander heavey armor build, how do I increase my survivability into late game? Do I just pump point into health and enchant fortified health or is there a better way?
>>316639287
Except casuals don't even use the mods though.
They get it on console.
>>316639158
>>316639460
I don't think devs should try at all, I'm just saying I think they do, and it's a pretty tough job. Also I was genuinely wondering if there actually was a game out there that satisfied people like yourselves.
>>316636514
You mean Elder Scrolls VI: Elsewyre?
>>316639631
shouldn't*
>>316638814
>>316638292
The lore is actually really good, but unless you've read up on it you probably won't understand it.
>>316640016
>>316640016
bullshit
hundreds of books with neat stories that have absolutely no relation to anything you ever do or interact with is not good lore
>>316640263
Hahahahah
>>316640304
Ok Professional Game & Lore Expert, I will be sure to seek your objective opinion on the matter of video game lore in the future.
Thank you for your informative advice.
>>316639660
I hope not. The entire region of Elsweyr with nothing but Suthay-raht sounds awful
Can anyone mod 3rd person dialogue into Oblivion for me? Like how they do in FO4. Also if possible could you mod it and strip down the dialogue choices into only for options at a time? I ain't a big reader.
>>316640501
>you state an opinion
>I state an opposing opinion
>lol yeah whatever you don't know shit
epic
>>316640304
what
the whole point of lore is to paint the background, history & reality of the world that you're now in
There's an absolute fuck ton of TES lore available to read up on (collected online in a few places), most of it is never directly explained to the player via the storylines.
TES has some pretty fucked up lore, shame 90%+ of players will never know of it. Like the world is really just a dream a god is having, and the elves are trying to bring it all crashing down so they can return to the higher existence they fell from. (so did humans, but they like this reality).
>>316638292
Has noone noticed the framed pics in the background
>>316640304
You fucking retard that's what lore is. It builds the world through countless little stories and tidbits.
>>316638292
>The best TES game didn't provide adverture, immersion and exploration
Yeah sure, okay anon.
>Implying oblivion's dark brotherhood wasn't the funnest edgy shit you've done in a video game
>>316640304
>He didn't get a personal copy of the Alchemist's Formulary for his Telvanni house
>He didn't solve the riddles in Mount Kand by memory thanks to having read the yellow book of riddles
>>316638292
low test
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yvc3W9g.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>it's actually fun
>it's actually doing well
>sub fees are kill
>Skyrim Autists kept out because it's not Skyrim 2: Co-Op edition
Best MMO in a while and it just keeps getting better, it's like the MMO underdog.
HOL UP
>>316641618
>not liking lexi
>>316636514
>or fun to meet an enemy with more health or better gear than the player.
..Yes it is. The fuck. If no one has better gear then there's no reason to loot.
>>316638672
Fucking love that artist.
>>316641681
shills pls go
>>316640515
Maybe Bethesda won't be lazy, and actually put most of the different kind of khajiit into the game.
>>316639407
the loading times on console were so long that they forgot how boring the previous area they just left was, and were excited merely to be able to move around again
>>316641736
Sorry I didn't mean the girl, she's fine.
>>316641775
>Maybe Bethesda won't be lazy
TESAKAVIR
>>316636514
The next elder scrolls is a card game
I can confirmed that I played it at ID software here in Texas
>>316641775
>Maybe Bethesda won't be lazy
>>316641746
Did you seriously? Did you seriously just take the OP seriously?
You seriously did not just take the OP seriously.
OBLIVION2
>>316641753
who is he?
I tried playing Oblivion and it felt like it was trying too hard to be Peter Jackson's LoTR's movie series.
It's going to be set in High Rock, my dad works for Bethesda.
Screenshot this post.
>>316642113
I only read the one line before replying.
>>316642226
https://twitter.com/mgk6455
She's a qt trap.
>>316642240
it really did. it was the first TES after the whole series had been out. even the iron armor sets attempt to mimic the gondor armor
I've been thinking about getting Oblivion GOTY for PS3 and then playing it via remote play on my Vita over winter break
>>316642675
i would only do that if you really, truly can't run it on your pc. the game is pretty gnarly on console and bethesda games are especially bad on ps3. i played it on ps3 years ago and there's a bunch of broken quests that never got patched.
>>316642240
It's literally how it went. Skyrim also tried to get on the GoT train.
I miss Morrowind and Daggerfall desu senpai baka
>>316636514
>Implying it won't be Valenwood
http://www.elderscrolls.com/valenwood/
>>316636514
I really hate level scaling. It doesn't make any sense. Why would the world around you become more powerful as you level? It's a huge fucking immersion breaker and I hate there being a downside to leveling up and improving your character. That should be a purely beneficial aspect that allows you to access places you couldn't before and steamroll shit that used to wreck you, period.
I should be able to spend a few hours working on my Smithing without everything in the world suddenly finding Daedric armor or whatever.
>>316643094
I played Oblivion on 360, expansion and all.
Played fine to me.
>>316643176
Does Skyrim have hilariously bad dialogue and needless profanity like HBO shows?
Fuck, I gave the expansion of Oblivion a chance too. The one that's inspired by Alice in Wonderland. After the cool fight with the giant guarding the door(?) I lost interest. It was fun watching that party getting slaughtered and then looting their corpse.
>>316643094
the point is so the I can play it on Vita while comfy, in bed
>>316641152
well she is a hugely famous porn star
>>316640263
Jesus fucking christ, my sides.
Something about that drawing is the funniest shit I've seen in a long goddamn time.
>>316640716
No one said you didn't know shit. Just that it's your opinion that you don't like the lore. Do you not know what the term objective means?
I predict a late 2017 - 2018 release, chances are the team working on it also did fallout 4, and the gap between that and skyrim was four years
Unless they have two teams and they've been working on this game since 2011, with actual production probably starting a tear ago, in that case fuck me it better be the best game in the series or I'm off games forever after that point
>>316640304
What the fuck did you miss the whole Wolf Queen quest in Skyrim?
>>316641681
The thing that bugs me the most is that almost all of the armors are just textures with a few modeled bits around the wrists, legs and waist. It's really fucking distracting.
Even in that image, the gauntlets, waist armor and helmet are modeled but everything else is just a fucking texture.
Is Battlespire good?
>>316638814
Honestly I hate the game but I get the appeal (and if you don't you're probably autistic)
It's just a big game, and size/scope alone can be enough to immerse people in a world
yeah i know it's actually shit but i'd be lying if i said i never had fun just roaming around doing nothing in skyrim, as with GTA or the witcher etc.
>>316636514
>>Magic will be cut down to two schools to sop it from being complicated, Good and Bad (damage & healing)
Nonsense.
You really think there will still be skills at all? Get real, this is Bethesda we're talking about.
Step 1
>Acquire Requiem
Step 2
>Enjoy Skyrim
>>316643363
valenwood+elsweyr
i want the game to be you starting on a boat and arriving at a penal colony that tamriel has started on an island near akavir. obviously the player is a prisoner. when you get there story evolves and you are tasked with setting up a frontier town in akavir or joining akavir to stave off tamriel's invasion. to go big time, have all of tamriel and all of akavir explorable. just release each section as another 30$ update. town building with FO4's ingame building only the architecture is whatever the local area should have. i dont care if its 200gigs just fucking do it
>>316643989
it's an MMO where you have tons of players running around on screen and it was built with low-end machines in mind. It's just the nature of the genre.
Which does Todd love more, Elder Scrolls or Fallout?
Todd walks on E3 2016 stage
>audience claps and hoots nervously
"Hey guys I just want to thank you guys for making Fallout 4 the biggest selling game in history...
>The audience claps loudly. All audience members grip their armrests in anticipation of a standing ovation.
"As you all know it's been some years since the last installment of Elder Scroll series has been out and now I can tell you a bit a bout it"
>the audience erupts in clapping and chants of FUSRODAH
"So far we've been to Skyrim and Morrowind..."
>The audience holds their breath and then the silence is deafening
"For the sixth installment, we aren't just going to Valenwood or Hammerfell or even back to Cyrodiil..."
>The audience begins vibrating intensely leaning in in anticipation
"We are going to go.... to.... ALL OF TAMRIEL"
>The audience begins clapping so hard they burst into flame and their lungs explode. They start pissing themselves from cheering, which fails to put out the flames but makes everything smell like burnt hair and urine. An older gentleman has a heart attack and dies on the floor, burning and covered in piss. The earth trembles below the studio, opening a gaping crack into the underbelly of the earth. Several members of the audience are dragged into the blackness, clapping so hard blood spills from their hands as they descend into the molten core of the earth, smashing into the rock as they fall. The continued laughter echoes off the rock, causing the largest known earthquake in history, crippling the powergrids of several of the world's major cities, plunging humankind into darkness for weeks. Martial law is called into effect as the riots increase in size and aggressiveness. As food begins to run out, half of the world's populace is dead, with the survivors now resorting to cannibalism and subsistence farming.
>>316645119
elder scrolls by far. it's his baby. as a kid, fantasy games were always his favorite.
>>316638292
>they play it for the buzzwords
>>316638292
who is this schlong sentinel
>idiots believe it's going to be hammerfell
The 3 possibilities in order of probability
1. "We aren't planning to make another Elder Scrolls game, when we can expand and do so much with ESO."
2. Elder Scrolls VI: The Dominion (Elsweyr, Valenwood, Summerset Isles)
3. They might listen to public demand, and actually make a game in Hammerfell.
>>316645324
lexi belle
>>316645302
not buzzwords
>>316645324
lexi belle
>>316641987
>>316644703
aw shit son
>>316645141
they did that in TESO
>>316644703
even this guy lacks ambition
What we need, is EVERYTHING
>>316645461
>1. "We aren't planning to make another Elder Scrolls game, when we can expand and do so much with ESO."
That's stupid, you're stupid if you think that's even a possibility.
>>316645785
we need to go bigger
>>316643552
I don't think it had needless profanity but dialogue was hit or miss depending on the scenario
>>316645324
>he doesn't know lexi belle
Are the planets I see in the sky during Skyrim nights the fucking realms of the divines?
>>316645968
>being naive
>ever
>>316646368
>Assuming an MMO developed by another studio for a separate audience would somehow influence what Bethesda does
You're dumb, dude. Really dumb.
It'll be Summerset Isles, with either Thras or Pyandonea as DLC.
Oh, who am I kidding. Weird elven provinces won't sell with the normies.
It'll be fucking High Rock or some shit.
>>316636514
I wonder how much of a sales hit it'll take because it isn't named "Skyrim 2" and casuals won't know what an "elder scrolls" game is
>>316646237
Those are moons, retard.
>>316636514
>TES games taking place in only one province
I hope this meme dies. Let's get a TES game set solely in Oblivion or on Secunda or something.
Only gonna be interested if they make it an actual RPG.
Bethesda hasn't made a proper role-playing game since Oblivion, arguably Morrowind. Roles barely even exist in Skyrim, stats barely matter and you can master any skill you want at any time with minimal effort and grinding.
>>316639158
Gothic 1 railroads you into the new camp but it's still a fantastic RPG.
>>316646772
But the day and night cycle is like in real life, but there are several different moons? That makes no sense.
>>316646237
Lorkhan, "The Missing God", was sundered into two halves during his destruction, becoming both Masser and Secunda. The two moons symbolize his duality, reminding his man-creations of his struggle. Their cycle determines the form Khajiit take at birth. Masser revolves around Nirn and Secunda revolves around Masser
>>316646849
What the fuck would you do on Secunda?
>>316636901
>storyline with a Dwemer returning to Nirn
Todd actually gives a fuck about TES since he's partly responsible for the lore, and in fact he's the only thing stopping them from bringing the Dwemer back.
>>316638727
How do people run this shit above 60fps with mods, mine just tanks and ive got a pretty strong pc.
>>316646964
Do you have any idea how day and night cycles work? They don't have to do with the moon idiot, the earth could have no moons and it would still have a 24 hour day.
>>316646657
That's why Bethesda will actually make Skyrim 2.
>>316645461
TESO already has more locations than any modern TES game. By your logic they'd never make another main-series TES unless it took place on a different continent.
>>316645141
>all of tamriel
the whole area would house about 14 npcs, maybe less.
>>316647135
Ok you're right. So there are several moons then.
>wanting another game about arab after all those isis attack
>>316647141
man i wouldnt even play it. theyd slap some new stupid story in and add the stuff they added in fo4 to it but how would it make sense to change anything drastically about the terrain unless it was 40,000 years into the past or future. maybe if it was like man vs the elements survival during an extinction period on nirn where there isnt any civilized society and or skyrim is where you crashland your spaceship and shenanigans ensue. otherwise, im out
>>316647360
multiple people have already brought up akavir
>>316647434
>>316647397
this would be way cool if they did it right. you could play as someone who becomes one of the divines during the shaping of the world. or you could be an extremely early inhabitant of nirn surviving against the elements then you ascend to godhood and sow your seed across your kingdom for millenia before leaving tamriel as a legend/god
>>316645785
>Using the non-MK-approved map
>>316647080
Explore Khajit colonies obviously.
>>316647080
Fuck cats.
Drink skooma.
>>316645975
>>316645785
Both these diagrams suck tbqhwy
>>316636514
>The world will level around the player more, it's not fair or fun to meet an enemy with more health or better gear than the player.
...why would they go back on something they reintroduced in FO4?
I hated Oblivion, Skyrim. FO3, amd FO4, so my only hopes for the next TES are for an Elsweyr setting so other people can post pretty desert screenshots.
>>316648036
>>316648127
So we'd just be playing as furry skooma-addicts in space? Sounds pretty cool, actually.
>>316636514
I don't even want Hammerfell.
I want Summerset Isle. The lore surrounding it is nearly as crazy as Morrowind's. Plus it would give the player a chance at playing behind the scenes of the Thalmor and Dominion. Weaknesses and strengths that it has. Maybe even make you see through their eyes and give you some perspective.
Oh who am I kidding? They'll probably shove that shitty ME dialogue system in there and fuck up what little bit of RP was left from Skyrim and it will be set in Hammerfell. Might as well get my mind prepared for it.
>>316636514
I understand why you're frustrated, but making threads like this doesn't help.
>>316645785
fixed the map for you
>>316645785
>Akavir being that massive
I'd imagine it being more like>>316648034
since it seems to be based on Japan/China since Akaviri architecture and and weaponry look quite a bit like that.
>>316636514
just give it an invasion / summon mechanic like the souls series to keep the kids happy
>>316651339
Could and never would work.
Gamebry...I mean Creation Engine would never support that. Hell, they can't even create a stable Fallout 4 on the damn engine with a few graphical tweaks.
