SFV
Will sfv assassinate sfiv in 2016?
Is it the saviour of fighting games and Esports?
>>316632494
all i can say is the more i played it the more i wanted to play and never stop, cant say the same shit for SFIV, and i'm super into FGs
lets see what happens
I don't know but it's the savior of muh dick
>>316632840
They should be more consistent with the betas, like one day per week or something, fuck i miss the game already
>pirate a cracked beta copy
>doesn't have the BR chick or Gief but otherwise has the rest before them
>try Rashid since he's new
>mfw those combos
Hello new main.
>>316632917
the plots and the backstories are on point t b h
>>316632917
>>316633269
mfw i found out you could use your own projectiles to boost your mobility
>>316633087
Also if we had more betas we would've more gameplay related thigs to discuss
I wonder if they'll censor Laura's butt.
>>316632494
I'm curious about how EVO is going to turn out next year. There's a lot of people clamoring for both SFV and SFIV to be on main stage as a kind of "sign off" for SFIV, alongside the fact that there's really only 5-6 months in between SFV's launch and EVO. I can understand the reasoning, but I don't think I can handle having two Smash and two SF games on the main stage.
>>316633535
>>316634906
We need some hints of the story mode at this point, i want to know more about Laura
>>316632494
Please tell me that Cammy's voice actor from SF4 is coming back.
>>316632494
I'm literally going to buy this game just to jack off
>>316635318
yes, both jap and eng voice actresses are the same
>>316635442
you'll have to play the game anyway to earn fight money or else you'll have to spend real money for everything.
![bbbStreetFighterVBeta-Win64-Shippi 2015-10-25 12-49-28-57.avi_snapshot_00.25_[2015.10.25_12.57.40].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dxsEui2.jpg "bbbStreetFighterVBeta-Win64-Shippi 2015-10-25 12-49-28-57.avi_snapshot_00.25_[2015.10.25_12.57.40].jpg")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6aCpdHISxw&t=49s
Thank you based pc modders
>>316635309
That background woman looks like Poongko.
>>316636702
with Ono dancing skills
>>316636441
>>316635004
Evo's twitter has 70% of ppl voting for both smash games while only 56% voting for both SF games. fighting games are literally ded
>>316637830
The ass is fat.
>>316637183
That's interesting.
>>316633269
That's an option? Downloading.
The FGC will suck off any company and play any game if someone puts up enough money.
Sure there will always be fans of older games but never enough to warrant the size of turnout for the latest money maker.
There's no such thing as the savior of fighting games because it's not a one size fits all genre but what the hell would i know i'm just a dog.
>>316633087
Was it part of their plan to make Cammy perfect breeding material.
>>316638148
it isn't but you gotta look at it this way. we kinda need that one big game to get fresh blood into the scene. lot of fgc big names are getting older.
>>316638148
>The FGC will suck off any company and play any game if someone puts up enough money.
and yet no one wanted to play sfxtk. daigo didnt even play that trash even with the $25k prize pot offered.
kill yourself faget
>>316637183
>>316636441
i wonder if there'll be more moveswap mods in the future
>>316638836
of course. the moment the beta hit pc it was data mined to hell and back. i'm sure capcom knew this would happen.
>>316638267
BUITL FOR SEXCKs
>>316638148
>>316638631
There's this capcom fighting network they wanna implement for sfv, it can be quite interesting and keep big and small tournaments more alive
>>316638148
That sounds more like how Evo picks some of the stage games.
>>316640421
Exactly. Evo organizers want to make Evo bigger, not any particular fighting game, i'm pretty sure they don't give a fuck about what games are in as long as it brings them more ppl and profit to their tournament
>>316635551
damn, that'scute
when's the next character reveal? i think someone mentioned an annoucement this weekend during the cpt asia finals
>>316642582
nah, it'll probably be at PSX in december
Im digging it but I dont think it will catch on
SF4 and SF5 were casualized in different ways. SF4 was casual on its front layer, with ultras, focus attacks, and such. It was harder the deeper you got it, with 1 frame links and stuff. SF5 is the inverse.
Still, Ive had fun so far, and I can see myself still playing it 3/4 years in.
>>316632494
sf community will probably switch games, but i doubt the fgc will ever become "esports"
>>316643749
capcom pushing how easy it is to do everything, but taking away all the fuck shit is really killing the game so far.
>>316643749
i dont think so at all, SFIV was casualized in a way that turned the SF formula into not SF, while SFV has the objective of returning to that formula, now how deep it'll be we will only see later in the games life
>>316644109
all the fun shit*
>>316644109
is it, people already discovered true 1 frame links in the 2nd beta, and we have no clue what people will discover in the games lifecycle
and the appeal of street fighter was never who does the longest most difficult combo, but on good reads, spacing, etc
>Lv8 CPU Rashid
>All those fucking spins
Why does this character exists
>>316644310
that's another thing, normals are all short ranged and stubby feeling.
i'm hoping they'd make some adjustments to them before release. from the last beta everything felt like you had to be touching dicks to be in range.
>>316644779
>fighting the a.i.
if you can find the easy patterns, exploit them and easily beating a.i. in this game you're in serious trouble, friend
>>316644779
game needed a fuerte/blanka for people to be pissed at.
>>316643749
>It was harder the deeper you got it
you didnt even play sf4 if you believe that
SF4 gets easier and shallower the deeper you go, the game is reduced to almost nothing with the prevalence of option selects, vortex, safe pressure options with big rewards when they 'eventually' work out and not having to commit to anything
What's your best accessory to Play Like the Pros?
>>316642582
None shall ever top Necalli
So, is the butt slap still censored?
>>316646520
people are saying that build was buggy as shit. will see. the video in question did have sound issues during her whole CA.
>>316632494
No Sakura no buy.
>>316648167
guess you'll be waiting till 2017 then.
>>316632494
I really hope they adjust the frame of that so we can't see her buttcrack. It's honestly disgusting. I'm so glad that Capcom properly censored R. Mika's butt slap it didn't match the character at all. Like what kind of professional wrestler would slap their butt in a match. I have to go to church now later.
>>316648268
No point in ever playing a vanilla SF anyway.
>>316648379
such weak bait
>>316648516
that logic is retarded. the best time to get into a sf is when it's new and people are still figuring shit out. instead of coming in two years later and getting wrecked as soon as you go online.
It'll "assassinate" sfiv in the sense that the community will be encouraged to move on to the next product and the old game will eventually just die from people wanting the newest version regardless if whether it's better or worse. There are still people that think this strike is the best street fighter but that didn't stop iv from becoming the go-to game.
Reminder that Mika is a mans name and Rainbow is a term used by the LGBT community and that Rainbow Mika is canologically a transsexual.
>>316648549
>obviously a joke
>bait
I love Cammy!
>>316648549
This is the most accurate-to-game-models fanart I've seen. MUH
>>316650234
the game models are thicker
I hope we get some cool UI mods for SFV
>>316632494
Is Juri good for a beginner??
>>316650430
Stick to Karin.
>>316650361
Where did that Cammy pic come from? She looks..off.
>>316651160
probably someone posing her model
>>316632494
>Will sfv assassinate sfiv in 2016?
Of course it will. That's how sequels, fighting game sequels especially, work.
>Is it the saviour of fighting games and Esports?
Of course not. Fighting games aren't in danger and neither are esports
>>316651305
Whatever they did, she looks thicker than she does in-game.I don't like it.
>>316651641
feels the same to me, her ass is huge from some angles. Anyone could download and pose her model in xps or sfm and see for themselves
>>316650369
mugen projects still exist?
>>316638148
Lmao Blazblue put up $30k for Evo2014 and no one gave a fuck. It had a bigger pot than SFIV and no Japanese besides Tokido were there.
ArcSys and Aksys constantly threw money at their games and no one played them. Meanwhile SFIV grew way befire any CapCup or real pot bonuses. You can't buy a fanbase, look at KI, Persona, and Kofxiii.
I cannot wait for the massive butthurt you'll get from all the SF4 players who relied on fraudulent shit
There will probably be some new stupid shit, R Mika was definitely showing potential, but at least the game looks like you'll have to be able to play fighting games to play SF5, which will likely be very distressing to Ibuki/Seth/Fuerte/Viper etc etc players
>>316653098
sfv is a better game imo, just felt slower
>>316652660
no japanese, top 8 was literally well known BB players and 1 american, and what the fuck did you think would happen they announced that 30k pot prize, what, a month, month and a half before EVO, you my be the greatest player in a specific FG, doesnt mean that if you change to another FG without any real practice time you would be instant Top 8 status, it may not have been as big as SF, but it was full of killers there
>>316644310
They took away a lot of spacing options by merging close and far normals limiting a lot of options.
http://strawpoll.me/6009852
>>316653098
you can already tell who mained those characters by what they think of SFV
>>316653681
It is a better game solely due to ridding itself of terrible shit like Ultras and focus/FADC that only existed to the detriment of the actual neutral game and gave huge reward/risk in places it shouldn't have
SFV seems to just be trying to be a simple old styled fighting game which is good because every modern fighter somehow feels the need to add some stupid mechanic that allows players to completely bypass huge elements of the game or to compensate for skill difference between players, which is why so many modern players can spend years playing them and never learn proper spacing, anti airs or other extremely basic things without it actually mattering a great deal depending on who/what they play
It's not exclusive to SF4 by any means but it's something that shows a lot in some people who started on SF4
>>316653809
i'm sorry but close and far normals is the worst shit i've ever seen in FGs, thank god that shit ws removed, and thats not limiting, thats giving you better control to the player
>>316654020
>I'm an idiot who can't into proper spacing
Naw
>>316654112
sure buddy whatever you say
>>316653098
If you are shit at SF4 you are going to be just as shit at SFV
>>316654540
Yeah, but if you're good at SF4 that doesn't mean you will be good at SF5 or that you can play fighting games generally
What I was getting at is that elements and characters of SF4 allow fraudulent players to completely bypass fundamentals which is something I don't think anyone familiar with SF4 will dispute, and it's clearly the main thing SF5 has been trying to avoid with its anti setplay and 'no free meterless mixups' approach
>>316654017
>anti-airs are just as weak as SFIV
>V-Trigger cancels allow most characters to land Ultra level damage off of random hits once a round
>mashing beats projectiles
>mashing beats throws
>hell mashing beats getting knocked down half the time
>>316654745
Im sure thats what you actually tell yourself when you get your ass beat none stop.
Going to be funny to see all the excuses from shitters like you when SFV hits and you are garbage and have no more excuses, but im sure you will think of something else to blame.
>>316653882
Am i the only one who feels Ken is better than Ryu so far, i mean clearly better and more fun?
>>316655191
I'm fine at SF4, though I main KoF13 instead because I dislike elements of the game for the reasons I stated, though I gave no indication to my ability at the game anyway.
Are you saying I'm wrong? Does SF4 not have characters/mechanics like that? Or are you just randomly insulting the skill level of an anonymous poster?
>>316655117
SFV looks like hot garbage
>>316655324
>I main KoF13
i lol'd
>>316655290
Ken was quite clearly a lot better than Ryu in the recent beta, though Ryu was weaker than the previous beta so I doubt it'll really stay that way honestly
>>316655324
No, you're just bad.
>>316655615
How so?
>>316655290
Isn't that always the case?
>>316642976
This art isn't canon. That is a thing that never happens in the game.:^)
jesus fuck why don't you two just play each other in sf4 and see what happens
![fxs.mp4_snapshot_02.02_[2015.08.13_23.04.32].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ITCrfuf.jpg "fxs.mp4_snapshot_02.02_[2015.08.13_23.04.32].jpg")
i need a third beta ... fast... pls,,
>>316655851
The guy crying about SF4 would get bodied and it would be a waste of everyone's time.
>>316656058
i don't care, either put up or shut up either of you
>>316655724
each has different strengths in each sf iteration. In 3s however, Ken was clearly better, while in 4 they both had their ups and downs on the tierlist.
In theory Ryu should be the most balanced character within the sf roster, while Ken's position in the tierlist fluctuates depending on updates.
>>316655724
Ryu's a lot better than Ken in ST
>>316656151
Cry more
>>316656354
ok
but all this "u obv sux at sf4" is just blowhard bluffing bs just the same coming from a guy who clearly cannot even back up his shit-talk
stay free
>>316632494
I heard that you can get a download of the beta that will allow you to mess around with training mode. Did I hear that right? If so, what characters is the torrent of?
>>316655928
I love Cammy!
>>316657696
All but laura, gief and sim
>>316657696w11.zetaboards.com/SFxT_Mods/topic/11386575/1/
>>316657726
>>316650029
i'm sure she loves you too anon!
>>316658131
MY NIGGA
U
DA
BES
If there's 2 smash games at Evo but only one SF then Wizard is a hack who loves nothing but money.
>>316658131
Cammmmmyyyyyyyy
>>316656513
Looks like you just let slip you were samefagging, typical shitter behavior.
You will never be good at street fighter.
Stay free.
>>316659373
sure thing ok
>>316659062
that would be pretty sad imo
>>316659062
I thought that there was talk about only having one game per franchise for the next EVO?
If V is after 3 than how come Mika is so young
>>316659541
Why is the FGC so stupid to allow Wizard to commit so much faggotry? What's stopping spooky from making his own EVO?
>>316659541
Depends on the twitter poll results it seems
>>316637830
>>316660127
Backing from the big companies
Ability to run an event that big
Lack of the name EVO
>>316660165
I don't get it. Why do people not want to see SF 4 if it has been the premier game for so long? Does Capcom really intend to let SF 4 die off when SF 5 come out?
Is SF5 the money maker, their way into big time e-sports?
>>316660250
Pretty much all of these.
Although, I would love to see a big Sp00ky event. Is he in talks with Capcom about SF 5 streams and locals? Will SF 5 bring a change to his streaming?
>>316660337
I dont speak for everyone obviously but I am really tired of SF4
Shit man every major the main attraction for me is fucking MKX. I really wont mind if 4 isnt present at EVO, though it would be appropriate to send it off.
>>316646520
That old dude in the background..
>>316661091
Mr.Smith
I'm going to be playing this seriously when it comes out
My background is Soul Calibur and Smash, what do I need to know?
>>316660594
That game needs more competition. I'm tired of Sonic Fox winning fucking everything and YOMI trying desperately to counterpick and do everything they can to not look like jobbers.
?Honeybee? The D-vorah dude is pretty cool. I like his play but he always gets bagged in top 8.
>>316661393
watch the vesperarcade tutorials and the maximillion dude adventures, follow the eventhubs tier lists and listen to gootecks advices on how to get a grilfriend
>>316662113
>listen to gootecks advices on how to get a grillfriend
But if SF 5 wont have FADC, how will I get a girl to FADC back to my place?
Will I have to learn to V-Trigger a girl back ot my pad?
THE FGC IS NOT ESPORTS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>316661806
I dont mind SonicFox winning because the game changes a lot and he adapts to it
Its not like back in Injustice where every final boiled down to Fox Batgirl mixing up whoever was lucky to get there
But yeah, people really need to caught up with him.
>>316632494
God I hope so. I'm so sick of today's games all sucking shit. At least with FGs I get a ton of replay value and a sense of progression as I get better. Saves a lot of money too, not constantly buying new games.
If it's true that 1 frame links are gone, all the better.
I dunno how many of you have actually looked at the recent change logs but you should. Characters like Ryu got page long nerfs and lost tools out the ass. Bison was swiftly crippled from his AA to all of his special moves especially lk sk as well as his dash gaining like 8 more frames of startup.
Basically every character got damage/framedata nerfs out the ass. And not just small ones like +1 moves becoming -1/-2 and alot of moves losing 30-40 damage. More options have been lost and nothing has been gained.
This makes me especially sad the E3 build/Ken builds looked amazing to me and yes i'm sure some framedata needed to be changed but everything was looking good so far. I even agreed with the idea to remove most light to medium links but keep a few here and there.
They're now doing shit like removing special cancels on useful normals like Ryu's st lk well keeping his cr mk just as stubby. I fear for SFV because of how amazing it looked at first. All that talk of high stun/high damage/strong characters Capcom spouted looks like its going down the drain and we will be in for another MU heavy meta game instead of the player outplaying the other Capcom talked about in bulk at first.
Its looking more and more like a Rising Thunder type situation. Where they're making it simple and plain with easy execution but adding nothing in depth. So the good players will still rape the shitters with fundamentals but the good players won't have much to play around with and discover so no body truly wins.
I really don't want to see a bad SFV after how good the first 2-3 builds seemed and see a game survive off of pure money/brand fanaticism. But mostly it'd be money.
>>316662295
1 frame links are gone but i wish they'd make the buffer window 1 frame like it was at the first few builds. Now its 3 and you can basically mash links with 100% consistency with most characters. I mean it was triple tappable and easy as fuck at first but not to the ugly degree it is now. I dunno who has hands so retarded they can't perform a 3 frame link that is auto plinked for them.
>>316632494
SFV will put USF4 in side tournaments like it should. Also it won't be a savior but it will be popular because its SF of course. I just hope its the Alpha 4 it looks like and no dumbed down weak crap like 4 ended up.
>>316662698
It's good that they're changing all those things though. Hear me out.
If the community doesn't like them, they can change them back. Nothing is set in stone and the fact that they are messing with so many things isn't all that bad because they're trying to get as much data as possible to make SF 5 what they want it to be.
The community can help form their decisions through feedback of gameplay, frame-data, changes.
I'd rather they change a ton of shit now then have constant fuckery when the actual game comes out.
>>316662956
It's that easy now, huh?
>>316663042
I can't tell if you're hilariously naive or being paid.
>>316663042
See if this was the team who designed Guilty Gear or a earlier KOF i wouldn't be so worried.
But this is Capcom they're basically deaf. Have you forgotten Deejay? A character who remained terrible for the entirety of his existence in SF4 despite constantly being brought up as shit. Characters like Blanka who were mid tier saw unwarranted nerfs. Characters like Dan who are low tier got buffs but coupled by nerfs that basically offset the buffs.
Its hard to trust a company to make characters strong. So that is why i was hoping for little change to strong characters in early builds and just focusing on making characters strong out of the gate. Because Capcom themselves are largely incompetent when it comes to buffing/nerfing as of late.
>>316663042
Why change stuff people had already adapted to? No one was complaining about anything post light to medium link nerfs. But all we've seen are nerfs and more nerfs. I haven't heard a single pro say such things about the game like it needs to be weaker and needs less options. FOR FUCK SAKES XIAN/INFILTRATION WERE WORRIED IT WOULD BE TOO BASIC WHEN EVERYTHING WAS STILL STRONG! How the fuck is taking shit away and making tons of shit negative going to make it less basic?
People were praising the high damage/stun and now its almost as weak as the average damage on SF4 BnBs with most characters.
Also let me remind you. THIS IS A GAME WITH A ALPHA COUNTER! That alpha counter has been ass for three builds now with most characters it too slow and baitable even with mediums. Hell its so easy to bait you can just not cancel half the time and you'll get a punish on reaction.
So what does Capcom do? They nerf tons of damage/stun/pressure tools and in a few cases hitboxs with some are unwarrantedly bad and don't reach as far as the normal itself is hitting.
So we have a mechanic with a strong potential use in the meta game but instead we ignore it and nerf what people liked in the first place?
>>316663161
>>316663303
I'm not being paid. Although, I will admit that it seems i am kind of naive and perhaps a bit blinded by excitement.
I am optimistic about the changes they are making because I am excited for the game.
However, I know that we are dealing with Capcom, who isn't that great with this stuff. However, I hope they dont fuck it up and am hoping that they are just messing with stuff so they can actually better the game.
>>316662698
i only paid attention to Cammy's changes and it happened to her, less options during her v trigger, she lost the cr HP crush counter and overall damage got reduced even more, she got some new stuff like jab into target combo and cancelling her target combo into ex hooligan tho
SFV will share SFIV a mainstage event at evo 2016 I would imagine, probably not though, and SFIV will be moved to side pools.
I liked SFV in the betas i've gotten to play, all the open area tests i've gotten to try too. Hopefully they make their way to a few more cons i'm heading to in the near future so I get to try out rashid some more, he was ablast.
>>316637183
>Yamato's spine during the butt slap
>>316663789
I don't understand why we have dumb gimmicky airdash shit like this, air legs, or I don't know the entirety of this version of Dhalsim but can't have actual Street Fighter things work.
>>316663789
So 3 good passive options lost especially the CC for in return 2 things she probably had in the first few builds? Brilliant.
>>316663761
The problem is i'm beginning to see more and more that this is Capcom. DMC4SE just came out and SFV's first few awesome builds were fresh in my mind. But throughout all these last builds they've reminded me that they're modern Capcom.
I pray for a miracle and shit turns out like a more advanced version of the first few builds with tons of options , everyone is strong/cheap as fuck , Alpha counters are very viable and everything good damage/stun and doesn't have shit framedata.
The most prominent things making me cautious as fuck are Bison's lk sk going from -1 to -4 so its basically jab punishable now for a combo and Ryu losing his st lk cancel and getting like 20 damage/stun nerfs.
I mean i still have GGXrd and GGXrdR looks great but i wanted a SF game like the old ones. I fear this game will end up like worse USF4 where basics are key but everyone is so weak the game becomes a counter pick mess like USF4. But it would be even worse because without the hard kds to allow characters to make comebacks like in USF4 bad matchups would be even more atrocious and counter tool oriented.
All we can do is pray and voice our concerns. Fuck Capcom even had a bulletin during a early conference saying something like "We plan to buff weaker characters and not nerf stronger ones".
I'm sad to say it seems like that might be a release only plan. I don't know what the point would be if strong to them means mediocre and boring.
>>316664321
You sound like the kind of person who probably looks down on anime fighters and KOF. Because it has air moves/viable jumping strategies it must not be good right? Its a gimmick right?
I bet you sure got fired up when you saw Zangief could combo into ex SPD off st lk and cr mp? its okay i'm sure they'll remove that too. Its not like every other series has something like that right? Oh wait they usually do.
![STREET FIGHTER V (BETA) Laura vs Cammy - YouTube.mp4_snapshot_02.17_[2015.11.12_01.00.34].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/B88MNU5.jpg "STREET FIGHTER V (BETA) Laura vs Cammy - YouTube.mp4_snapshot_02.17_[2015.11.12_01.00.34].jpg")
>>316664237
the original mika buttslap animation breaks her spine just to get more accentuated butt, cammy's intro shows cammy's crotch in a weird angle. Capcom try to hide it by changing the cameras but nerds call it censoring instead. it was just capcom trying to hide their unfinished animations and nerds overreacting to it
>>316664385
I didn't watch much of the newest build, to be frank, so I can't rightly comment on them.
The older ones remind me of playing SF when I was a kid though. The damage was fucking humoungous and the stuff for it didnt seem all that complicated.
It reminded me of all the fun I had with Alpha 3 when I was younger.
Also, all the characters looked really strong, almost too strong in some cases, and the game speed was really nice and fast.
I just don't want SF 5 to be so fucking slow like SF 4. I like SF 4, but I need a fucking change. I don't want this game to be simplified SF 4.
>>316664579
>You sound like the kind of person who probably looks down on anime fighters and KOF
Well I'm not so you can stop right there.
If I was in the mood to play a game with stubby normals, glacial throws, and mandatory universal input character gimmicks I would play BlazBlue (actually I just pick Nu and ignore all that shit) If I'm playing Street Fighter I'm expecting a normal heavy ground based game.
>>316633535
is there any more like this???
videos, images, gifs, anything???
>>316638824
Im wondering why no one replied to you. Youre dead on
>Will sfv assassinate sfiv in 2016?
SFV will kill the FGC. The game is trash where every caharacter plays the same. Command throws have FIVE FUCKING FRAME startup, pressure is trash, and the positional game is nonexistent. People will be bored of it in no time.
Meanwihle, just by being new it will diminish USF4 numbers and CapcomCup will no longer support the game. Instead of playing SFV, SF4 players will just go on to do something else with their lives. Tournament numbers will dwindle. By 2018, EVO will be a Smash tournament.
And b4 people say "hurr durr it's Street Fighter of course it will be popular" look at the FGC between 98-08. Street Fighter was THE MOST POPULAR arcade game in the early 90s. All it took was releasing scrubby games like A3 and 3S to kill it. With SFV it's happening all over again.
>>316664948
I'm going to frank with you anon. The recent builds/changes and even easier execution that went from easy auto plink to literally mashable make it seem so disappointing.
I honestly thought it looked like ST/Alpha 3/3s kinda mushed together at first. Now it looks like 3s at a SF4 pace and everything is getting weaker with only Ryu having a weak parry compared to the 3s parry.
Characters are getting nerfs left and right. Alot of resets/mixups have gotten removed like Karin's reset that was removed in the latest change log even bore people could adapt/see what it really took to block it.
Capcom promised a strong classic SF returning to its roots. I'm afraid they're so wrapped up in their delusion of being MOBA popular that they're dumbing the game down. And that just won't work. Even in a game like Rising Thunder shitters got beat by people who knew fundamentals. So all you're doing by removing tech/making people weak is taking fun from those who really like your games.
I pray they fix all this but i wouldn't get my hopes up. But i'm exceptionally sad because they crippled Bison/Ryu in one fell swoop and they're both my characters. I know Bison was considered one of the best with Karin so far but they just fucked him. A character with okay mobility/no overhead apparently deserves to get his AA nerfed to trades with everything status and have all of his specials made jab punishable on block.
I gotta say if GG wasn't moving in full force for a anime game i wouldn't be investing in this genre anymore. I wish i was into 3d fighters more because they seem less abused by devs overall.
>>316665254rule34hentai.net/post/list/Cammy_White%20Source_Filmmaker/1
>>316665553
>Characters are getting nerfs left and right. Alot of resets/mixups have gotten removed like Karin's reset that was removed in the latest change log even bore people could adapt/see what it really took to block it.
Pressing jab, by the way
>>316655364
Try it out, the beta was cracked weeks ago for PC
>>316665158
>Stubby normals
Sorry for what i said anon but this disappoints me as well. Ryu/Ken have such stubby cr mk's that Ken can't even do cr mk into light hado with his current hitbox. I'm pretty sure both are still missing the end of the foot on them also which is why its so hard to make them safe on the hado like the last 1/3 of the foot.
I like some of the normals in SFV i really do. But Capcom seems to be fucking with hitboxes and making normals not hit where they reach for whatever reason. Necalli's entire set of normals feels like hes missing the fingers on his swipes and shit.
If a normal doesn't hit where it reaches out its considered a failure in my book. If its stubby its stubby. But it should be hitting where the move itself looks like its hitting. Also
>BB
Nigger why aren't you playing Xrd.
>>316665327
Actually it could revive the FGC anon. GGXrd is gaining steam and people like Daigo/Sako are returning to it as well as people like Dieminion saying they will pick it up soon after CCC.
A new Tekken is on the approach and KOF14 might turn out to be decent gameplay wise.
We could see a new renaissance where people end up returning to all their roots and Western FGC tournaments are just a front for Capcom circle jerks and Smash faggots.
>>316662113
>>316661393
This, been watching Max and excellent adventures for the last 2 months, before I couldn't even do a DP reliably, but now I can do Ken's target combo into Super in 3s.
I sincerely cannot wait for the death of USFIV.
Every time I see Rolento, El Fuerte, Decapre, or Elena on screen I count the days until this game is put out of its misery.
>>316660127
Spooky is one person and his talent is hosting streams/moderate damage control. Lord "King of 3s and Kof" Haunts is Spooky 2.0 and does a few streams for Capcom. I've never seen a Capcom stream fuck up recently, but I'm sure Haunts wants Spooky to get more Capcom money since they're both iplaywinner.
>Be a PKek
>Fucked if SFV is shit
>>316665553
>I honestly thought it looked like ST/Alpha 3/3s kinda mushed together at first
This is the exact reason as to why I have been so fucking stoked for this game.
Everything else in your post is worrying though. I do not want Street Fighter 4: We Took Out The Tech Ultra Hyper Turbo Fighting as SF 5.
It's obvious that Capcom is trying to get that MOBA money, but it's just not going to happen . I hope that the changes they make in order to make the FGC e-sports won't end up absolutely killing this game.
>>316665669
It has a window to check it with jab? See its shit like that which annoys me. She basically would need to condition a good player who knows that into not hitting a button during the ex dash reset to get that mixup.
But next build? Removed. When players like you and i'm sure others already found this out its removed. Reason? I don't know. I can only imagine Capcoms staff who are largely terrible at their own games tested it and could figure this out so it had to be broken.
At least GG is on the rise right senpai?
>>316662261
No, you use your V-skill to get them home, then you use your v-trigger to trigger their V.
>>316665910
You're an idiot.
Daigo/Sako were payed to play the game for promotion. They don't touch it regularly. Dieminion says he'll play a number of games but never does. Takken 7 is doing horribly in Japanese arcades and people don't like it over TTT2. KOF14 looks like absolute garbage.
The FGC deserves to die because of people like you. Tasteless shitstains who can't cultivate a community.
>>316665553
I'm still not incredibly upset because my background is mostly 3-d fighters, so if SF shits the bed, I still got Tekken to look forward to.
>>316666052
It looks grim anon. I was especially stoked early on when ComboFiend was everywhere since hes a make everything broken and force adaption man throughout his history in the FGC.
All we can do is pray but the evidence is pointing towards a pussified version of the original builds and that being said it will probably be matchup oriented as fuck if it ends up that way. But worse without the Ultra/hard kd game of USF4. Can you imagine a character like Hugo beating a character like Gouken/Rose without hard kds? Without the massive mixups the tool sets will counter each other even harder if they're weak and without tons of strong options.
>>316666020
I'm a idort but i feel bad for you anon. I wish Arksys liked PC because GGXrd is alot of fun and you probably won't get it until GGXrdR is about to be updated.
>>316663161
If he is a naive person, then you're being pointlessly mean to him. Like making fun of children.
>>316661393
Have you ever been to a major for Soul Calibur?
>>316661806
Was going to pick it up, but then I saw the Mileena crouching bug that NRS started tagging copyright infringement over and I decided to stick with SF4 and Xrd. Bitch can't even hit people with her crouching 1. I hope they patched it, but the way it was handled was a bitch move. Literally input bug 2.0.
>>316666226
>Sako
>Just for promotion
Except he is still playing it more then he plays USF4 and is regularly in Mikado tournaments. Where as hes rarely seen in USF4 tournaments as of late.
For the rest i was just stating shit to make a argument for other fighters. Also KOF14 looks bad graphically but gameplay wise the little we've seen is the same speed as KOF13 or slightly slower and its not enough to discern anything. But yes the graphics are bad.
If you think GG is a bad game though you're just a petty fuck especially if you thought USF4 was notable also. What do you even mean? I play multiple fighting games , give my feedback on places Capcom might look constantly and shit on stuff like Rising Thunder that seeks to dumb down the genre.
Is it only cultivating a community if i play sleep fighter 4 and bash SFV to death?
>>316666386
I wanted to pick up MK X too, but I bought it on the PC. Feel free to have a laugh on my behalf.
I'm fairly new to PC and had no idea how bad that game actually was. I thought it was just /v/ being /v/ lmao not even close.
It is fucking molten garbage, with some of the worst online play I have ever had the displeasure of playing and I have no interest in double dipping and getting it on ps4.
>Thanks master race for letting me play Mk X with connections that feel like me and my opponent are at the bottom of opposing oceans.
>>316666386
Give MKX a chance, man
Its loads of fun.
Isn't Ono going to be on a panel at Game Start tonight? Think we might get Fan's trailer?
>>316662956
>Alpha isn't dumbed down weak crap
Alpha 2 is official kusoge in Japan
Alpha 3 was dropped in both countries in about a year
Alpha is the least successful mainline SF series for good reason. No one goes back to play Alpha 3 except scrubby Aism BRs. Karin is the most braindead easy mode characters ever created.
SFV is gonna fucking BOMB so hard and no one will expect it. Capcom is already nerfing any tech that gets found. The game is gonna come out basic as shit and turn off the "pros" who will go back to SF4, the "story mode" will be some low rent shit that casuals won't like nearly as much s MKX story, casuals will still have trouble with traditional inputs and still get stomped by pros causing them to quit, and the game will just be a total failure. Not to mention Capcom will make earning characters difficult to try and force people to use real money since they won't be able to make a windfall of easy cash with super and hyper and turbo editions.
This is going to be the final SF game and the nail in the franchise coffin once Sony gets pissed they wasted money funding this shit, and Capcom decides fighters just aren't profitable anymore. Ono will get fired for wasting funds, that or forced to work on mobile crap. Meanwhile Boon will laugh his way to the bank knowing he can churn out shit games that sell thanks to blood and gore and shitty hollywood movie story modes.
>>316666226
I agree with you, although I heard Tekken 7 was actually doing real well in Japanese arcades. Some attributed it to some weird membership program where you gotta pay for damn near every customization in the game, including different shades of colors.
>>316666532
>shit on stuff like Rising Thunder that seeks to dumb down the genre.
making fighters much easier to play isn't the problem, the problem are dumbass devs literally just trying to make SF but "with easier inputs". Smash was the right way to make an "easy to play" fighter.
>>316666681
>clunky bland gameplay entirely based on 50/50 option selects
>fun
no thanks
>>316666681
Dunno after hearing Tom Brady butch about the netcode literally fucking up with Sub Zero execution I'm worried. My archetype is primarily trap, zoning, or someone who dominates at midrange.
Subs has those ice clones, but apparently it's hard to adjust from offline to online to combo off of them. I believe him since MK9 online was a clusterfuck.
I'm gonna miss Gief being the god among gods of whiff punishing like he is in 4. Honestly, I can't see any character in 5 getting much reward off whiff punishes, which is sad because that's my very favorite part of the neutral game.
![1447559594656[1].webm](https://i.imgur.com/wMh9hf7.jpg "1447559594656[1].webm")
Post if your main is never, ever, ever tier
>>316668713
who knows senpai, birdie and nash made it
>>316666386
>Have you ever been to a major for Soul Calibur?
No, only locals. Had some pretty good players fly in a couple of times but that's about it. I have been to majors for Smash but Soul Cal just didn't last long enough
From fgg
Footage from that SFV exhibition in Korea
(Itabashi, maybe?)Zangief vs (Kazunoko)Karin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXtAa2xRp80
(Momochi)Vega/Karin vs (Infiltration)Nash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOHc2ZvhwM8
(Random Guy)Rashid vs (Chocoblanka)Necalli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY6-4pqmER8
(Random guy)Rashid vs (Infiltration)Laura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmEJ4tAsPkI
(Momochi)Ryu vs (Kim Byungchan)Ken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOpda5f2dG8
>>316669708
Why doesnt anyone play Mika
Fuck this world
what's more frustrating is that capcom sometimes leaves us with these 2 or 3 weeks with no sfv news whatsoever every fucking time
>>316668042
the crush counter game will be there, you can get some big damage from them at least
Back in the day, they only announced a new sf major version when something drastically changed in the mechanics or the engine
Doesn't look like that's the case with sf5 so why did they even bother
>>316671702
Are you serious, nigger?
>>316671702
sfv carried no mechanic from sfiv and introduced a bunch of new stuff, also since it runs on UE4 now it's open to introduce even more new things
>Five thrame command throws
This isn't a big deal, regular throws are 5 frames too.
What is a big deal is throws getting snuffed by everything under the sun
>>316673341
regular throws are 4 frames. But there's more things that they gave to all grapplers (gief, laura, mika):
1) they can combo into their CA
2)they can combo into EX command grabs
3) armored moves
4)air command grabs
>>316672172
It doesn't look that way from the videos, nogger
>>316673848
Still, not being able to use SPD for punishes on a lot of things is going to be hard to adjust to.
>>316673848
>2)they can combo into EX command grabs
Is that confirmed for everyone?
Necalli/Vega can't combo his and AFAIK Mika can't either.
I mean you could argue those two aren't grapplers but still.
>>316674341
gief, mika and laura are grapplers, nobody else, only they can do the things i listed so far
>>316674470
Oh and Birdie can't do it either.
>>316673848
>regular throws are 4 frames
Not in beta 2 they aren't.
>>316673341
>What is a big deal is throws getting snuffed by everything under the sun
Why the fuck do you think they get beaten
>>316653098
We'll see. I think a lot of that will depend on how the roster pans out over the next few years.
>>316632494
Dead Genre: The Game
>>316674857
yes, so far birdie is a semi grappler but he's not treated like a real grappler like the other 3.
>>316674947
>Why the fuck do you think they get beaten
Norange and no invincibility
A man should not get thrown out of a command grab, that's just wrong.
>>316675008
In what way isn't he a real grappler?
He has possibly the best grab in the game, an amazing trap grab and since his damage nerfs he can't just headbutt to kill anyone in two hits.
Ken looks cool
>>316675094
You can get thrown out of an SPD in SF4
>>316676070
Only an EX.
And an EX is strike invincible.
>>316675094
Command throws shouldn't need invincibility.
>>316676559
When they're 5 frames they do.
>>316675094
command grabs should not have any sort of invencibility unless it's an EX version, then maybe
everybody got the shaft:
divekicks are shit
fireballs are shit
command grabs are shit
DPs get fucked hard
movespeed is shit
justdeal with it
>>316677853
but muh fundamentals
>>316676165
Actually you can throw people out of regular SPDs, too, it just has to not be a reversal.
>>316669708
It doesn't really look so much exciting.
>>316679816
Infil mauling ppl that barely have touched the game? you don't say
Did Rashid get changed from the beta 2 or not ? Right now I'm maining Necalli and I'm thinking of Rashid as my secondary, so the faster I learn him the better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwetE8f2UpE
>>316681953
there's no garantee, everybody is getting changes at some point, combofiend said that the game had more than 9 different builds already. Rashid looks promissing as a character
>>316682079
Okay, I'll just stick with the cracked beta build for now and learn the basic combos and shit.
>>316676698
I'm of the opinion that grabs should be throw invincible and only hit invincible on EX but also slower, the way SF4 did it.
Make you choose between them.
>>316682151
infil played rashid today against xian during a sfv exhibition : about 1hr 10mins in
twitch tv/gamestartasia/v/25896698
>still no trailer showing the alt costumes in motion
>Fan confirmed for fighting with poison
Drunken fist finally?
>>316684694
there's nothing actually confirmed, just the leaks
How long until the next character reveal?
infiltration vs poongko from a few hours ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmkWIZ4h8JE
Why did they make Cammy so hot in this game.
How do I play Sagat's midrange game?
>>316688583
to sell more videogames
>>316688758
the visible navel and nipples make such a huge difference
>>316686715
Leaks that confirmed his relation to poison.
>>316632494
How can the art style be so fucking ugly? They look like sex dolls
>>316689740
It looks way better than SF4
Just fucking look at pic related, how can you say it's ugly
>>316636092
Are these target combos or links? If they are target, that's too powerful. If they are links is ok, but I thought the said they would get rid of links
>>316689914
they would get rid of 1f links, not links.
>>316683584
I normally don't buy alt costumes but damn those ones look too dope to just ignore.
>>316689914
cr.jab, target combo into specials.
>>316689871
It looks more detailed and with better lighting, but the character art is atrocious. Have you seen Vegas face? Cammy's face is terrible too, even after the "improvement." Don't get me wrong, SFIV looks like ass too, but they had less polygons to work with. Here is really about art style.
Bus look nice tho
>>316690097
So then I assume that there will be some heavy damage scaling, or they really want these matches to be done quickly
>>316655290
HATE CAMMY
>>316690261
Eh, that's not really much, they're only light confirms.
>>316690261
There are no stupid billion hits combo anymore so why would we need heavy damage scaling ?
Seeing this >>316636092 , if is mainly target combos, it looks like is too easy to deal heavy damage (specially since jab is a low risk button.) But upon further inspection, it also seems that this is the kind of combo that you can only do once per round, since you have to build the bar.
I'll get it if Cr MK > Hadouken still works with Ryu
That shit's what's won my matches since 2009 because I've never been able to do the fancy FADC stuff
>>316635309
why is peggy hill in brazil?
>>316691483
cr.mk is booty now and the cancel is unsafe on block and interruptable.
>>316691483
I pity Ryu mains t b h, they have to deal with an absolutely non-charismatic character, a complete jobber story-wise, and nerfed as fuck in SFV when the game isn't even out yet.
>>316690095
they're pre-order bonusesfrom different retailers
>>316692839
Autistic "Muh fundamentals" husbando is best SF husbando tho desu.
>>316655290
By Zangief's expression, Cammy is the only tight one. As expected from the best waifu.
>>316658131
Is there a way to just stop the update? I'm getting disconnected because my internet is shit right now.
>>316683584
Where do I get ryu and cammy' alt costumes?
I'm a physical copy troglodite so this is important
>>316669708
Wow, i'm a newbie and i feel like i can face them on SFV. This show how shit and boring the game feels right now.
