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What other games allow me to commit mass genocide or at least be a bad guy that makes people suffer?

>inb4 le edgy meme

I'm just bored and Undertale is too fucking simple with its combat to entertain me, Undyne and Sans get old fast.
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>>316590289
I tried to kill everyone but I just couldn't, it was so god damn boring and unsatifying
>but that's the point
well whoop dee doo then, pacifist all the way
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>>316590434
>it was so god damn boring and unsatifying

Yeah, pretty much, 90% of the gameplay is walking and then alt-tabbing out of the game waiting for an encounter to start.

I also dislike how the game treats you as the bad guy simply because of plot reasons, I mean it's the monsters that attack first not the other way around, fuck them.
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Your best bet is Hatred i guess
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>>316590582
>I hate how the game treats you as a bad guy
>for genociding an entire civilization
excuse me what
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>>316590289
Postal 2
Manhunt 2
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>>316590289
Crusader Kings 2 if you're willing to go a little into autism territory
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Soul Nomad and the World Eaters.
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Bioshock 2 family
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>>316590582
It's pretty much implied that you're actively hunting the monsters instead of them attacking you especially when the encounter rate gets really low.
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>>316590765
Even on the neutral run when you kill somebody they get angry. I killed Toriel and some random Mook the first time I played and Undyne called me a horrible person
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>>316591132
>Monsters get upset when you kill other monsters
Holy shit wtf is there problem right
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Both Knights of the Old Republic games had a decent descent to darkness

>>316590996
>causing suffering by proxy
why
sacrifice ending is best anyways
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>>316590289
>ctrl+F
>no Overlord
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Can I play this on an Intel HD card?
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>>316591132
>why are these people pissed I only killed the queen wtf>>316591213
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Mass Effect
>kill the addled colonists
>kill the hostages
>betray your race
>suicide mission

Or, if you skip the suicide mission:
>kill a mother and her children
>ignore calls for help, kill a transformed colleague
>neuter a race, kill their leader
>space racist for the majority
>kill everyone, doom your cycle
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Chara had the right idea, but he didn't need to destroy the world.
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Postal 2
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dominions 4 as ermor
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>>316591561
Yes

>>316591561
What was Chara all about, re-starting the war right?
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>>316591956
Chara hated humanity and wanted to kill everything.

He's a representation of the average RPG player who kills every encounter in order to level up and become stronger.
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>>316592058
That's retarded but I I'll accept it. So Chara was Flowey? Was Ariel Flowey? Were they both Flowey?
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Kichikuou Rance has a pretty sweet demon ending
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>>316592205
Chara is the first human to fall into the ruins, and is the kid you see in the opening. Flowey is a flower with Asriel's dust on it given an injection of DETERMINATION. He has all of Asriel's memories, but none of his SOUL.
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>>316591132
Undyne is probably the one of the only monster that hates you and wants you dead just because you're human. She shits on you even if you're pacifist.
She's also a best
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>he
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>>316592408
fuck off with your shitty headcanon, tumblr
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>>316592401
Fug I mangled my post
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>>316592408
i hate /utg/
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u mad?
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>>316590289
Overlord
You can be a lawful evil tyrant or a chaotic evil maniac
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>>316592815
lawful evil masterrace
just like Todd
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>>316592058
lol that's so hamfisted and tryhard. There is a VERY GOOD REASON to kill the monsters you encounter in most RPGs. Because they're trying to kill you, or you need to in order to save the world/accomplish whatever objective.

I mean, I get what he's trying to do, but it just doesn't work.
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Roller coaster tycoon.

I used to make unfinished roller coaster tracks and watch people ride to their fiery deaths.

You can also pick up people and drown them.

I used to also make a "prison" where I put people in if they any negative opinions of my park.
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>>316593409
This. Undertale's lesson of nonviolence only works in Undertale and games like it because the games are designed that way. It doesn't apply to something like Dragon Quest AT ALL, even if you decide to grind your ass off and actively hunt down monsters to get stronger.
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>>316592058
>RPG player who kills every encounter in order to level up and become stronger.

Maybe if monsters didn't behave like wild animals out for my blood I wouldn't need to kill anyone
Maybe if grinding wasn't a requirement in most JRPGs I wouldn't kill them
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>>316593927
of course
also god mode in the sims, great way to be a sick fuck in general
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>>316590289

Manhunt and Manhunt 2.

2 gives you the option to be really murderous or not, if you're looking for the OPTION of being a violent guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PR2apfLBzw
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>>316591132
>Why do these NPCs think being a murderer makes me bad?
There's a decent chance you are actually retarded.
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>>316594362
>PS2
Oh, shit, reminded me about The Suffering series.
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>>316590289
Dynasty Warriors
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>>316590289
Iji is a game that's somewhat similar to Undertale in that it has a pacifist and what I guess could be called a "genocide" route, although I don't think it's on quite the same scale. You can kill all the enemies and the survivors will become terrified of you, anyway.

It seems like it might execute the idea a little better honestly, because it gives you an actual in-character motivation to kill the enemies and a mechanical reason to do so, whereas killing enemies in Undertale is just being a dick for no reason.
The developer described the gameplay as basically being a sidescrolling System Shock 2. It's free, so you may as well give it a try.
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Thanks for not posting this in any of the other threads for this game.
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>>316594654
I don't remember this screen in Iji
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>>316593927
>I used to also make a "prison" where I put people in if they any negative opinions of my park.

I think we all did this. And people say kids are innocent.
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>>316594654
>that art
Iji is fantastic, but it really shows its age.
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>>316591132
What I want to know is how does Undyne know you've killed Toriel if nobody's seen her in ages?
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>>316595256
Ghosts and underground monsters can still get into the ruins.
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>>316595256
something about feeling the hearts of everyone
Plus, Napstablook or something could have told her.
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>>316595256
Dead monsters turn into dust. She probaly spots dust on your body
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>>316595741
yeah, I'm going with this explanation
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>>316590289
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>>316591373
You always kill people who are much more evil than you are
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>>316591213
They're not people, so it isn't murder.
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What are games that do a good job of making it feel like everything's at stake? I thought genocide did a good job of conveying how much of a threat you were to reality as a whole.
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>>316597174
I also would like to know if a game communicates this feeling as well. Undyne's monologue before her fight really set the overall tone for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD_yKzrR_cc
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>>316597050
I guess he's just an evil mastermind with a heart of gold, eh?
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>>316590289

SPEC OPS: THE LINE.

The supreme massacre simulator.
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>>316591132
>I killed Toriel
Dpes the game want you to do this the first playthrough.

I was trying to weaken her, then I did a fucking 300 damage crit out of no where and killed her.
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>>316594498

Manhunt and Manhunt 2 are also for PC, anon.
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>>316597770
do whatever you want but get the fuck off the internet til you get the true end
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>>316597770
Lore explains it, go read a book, why would you attack someone you don't want to kill blah blah blah
>>316597662
Doesn't do it was well since you're trapped by the narrative. Still liked it.
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>>316597954

OP wants a game about killing everyone and Spec Ops lets you literally kill everyone and everything.

Postal 2 and Manhunt 2 are trash.
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Precisely how do you pronounce Undyne?
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>>316590289
I don't know if this counts
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>>316598115
I say "uhn-dine"
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>>316590289
SMT franchise
postal
Overlord

those are off the top of my head
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>>316590289
>at least be a bad guy that makes people suffer?
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
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>>316598246
0/10

Marche was right. Fuck that cripple for valuing his own life over everyone else.
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>>316598246
huehue
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>>316597770
Yeah, she says she wants to know how strong you are before the battle and you seemingly can't spare her at the beginning of the fight. A reasonable response to this situation would be to whittle down her health and then spare her, proving to her that you're more than capable at fending for yourself. Then suddenly at about halfway through she suddenly loses all her health, basically telling you "this wasn't the correct way to spare her."
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Drakengard
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>>316598115
Un-dine
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So, I just made a battle theme for Gaster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SdSt_zGvQY

Thoughts?
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>>316590289
Have you never heard of the fucking RPG genre before?
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>>316598424

Why is Marshe such a dick?

Seriously, he was obviously the villain in that game.
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>>316593409
I think it'd be more accurate to say Chara is the representation of the kind of an RPG player who's completely disregarding of story or trying to be immersed and just cares about seeing numbers go up be it level or money. Hence why their name is just short for "character".
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>>316597137
>They're not people, so it isn't murder.
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>>316590925
this is the best game in this thread for what OP is looking for
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>>316599104
>megatron
my sides, anon, you just killed them
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>>316599104
>Aphys
>Undine
>Temet
>Valtiel
>Megatron, MEGATRON >mfw
Seriously though, what's going on in this image, I like the designs but what
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>>316591213
In my first playthrough I literally only killed one of those frogs at the beginning by accident (still didn't know how the game worked), spared everyone else and she still called me horrible. Had to restart my entire save because of a measly frog. At least the first Undyne fight isn't that far in.
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>>316599104
>that image
I'm confused
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>>316597854
I know, but the console reminded me of The Suffering games. They're also multiplats, but the PS2 is where I played it.
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>>316599963
Nigga you killed someone. That's like saying I only murdered one chick in the entire club that day.That said, they do attack you, and I think Sans mentions that too if you've gained some kills during a neutral run.
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>>316599104
stupid sexy megatron
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>>316599160
it isn't manslaughter, its still murder
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>>316602409
Actually murder is defined as the unlawful killing of a human being by another human being with malice aforethought.
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>>316590289
Fable
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>>316600006
>>316599624
>>316599493
>>316599104
Just reverse searched this and found the artist's site where they posted this
>i tried drawing all of the undertale characters from memory based off of what i’ve read about the game off of my dashboard to entertain some people on skype. one of them said that i should upload it here, so here it is.
Makes a lot more sense.
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>>316593409
It works just fine. Actually fighting things is tedious when you can just do one or two 'acts' and end a fight
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>>316593409
It works perfectly find in his context, the monsters are basically us with magic and vastly different appearances.
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>>316590289
get out tumblr
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>>316590925

>Is this what you wanted?

>>Doesn't matter, it was fun
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>>316603613
>>316604894
It doesn't work because the point of the genocide ending and working up to it is to make the player feel bad for being a videogame player. OH GOD MY MURDERBONER IS SO HARD AND SWOLLEN THE NUMBERS ARE GETTING HIGHER KILL KILL KILL HURRRRRRR

No, nigga. No. Making numbers go up is fun because progression is fun and growing stronger is fun. To villify that is the ZENITH of pretentious wankery.

Again, it ONLY works in Undertale and games like it because they are specifically designed so that the context of making your numbers go up as high as you can, the grinding to the max concept, specifically involves being a murderous psychopath. Meanwhile, everyone on the internet are tripping over each other to gag themselves on Toby Fox's dick because they think his violence concept is some sort of deep introspective look at gaming in general WHEN IT FUCKING ISN'T. Undertale is SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED so that you HAVE TO GO OUT OF YOUR WAY and NEEDLESSLY MURDER as many monsters as possible in order to unlock an ending that attempts to punish you for your morbid curiosity. A cool idea that works for this one game, but holy fucking shit am I sick of people making it out to be as if "Oh man, it reeeeaaaallly makes me just....THINK about being a gamer duuuuude..." like a retarded stoner making a profound mountain out of an obvious molehill.
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>>316598967
Most RPGs don't really have a specific reaction to the player attempting to kill absolutely everything. You can kill almost everybody in FNV for example, but while certain characters will notice that you've killed certain other characters, they won't notice that you did it as part of a campaign to genocide everybody in the wasteland.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQDiDDb1_9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0dgaYe2LZw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=til3dA-vzZ4
bravo Toby
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>>316599104
>In one ending, she tries to eat him

Wait, really? Which ending?
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http://vocaroo.com/i/s12RC2moyBMw I've been finding these voice actors across threads now. And well, they well made me feel a thing I didnt know existed, alot of them especially those distorted ones, give me shivers and I clutch my shoulders on instinct or something to that effect. Its addicting so im wondering if theres more an ill post my reactions.
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>>316599104

so Chara is the average Korean MMO grinder?
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>>316591132
Go murder someone IRL and tell me what happens Anon
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>>316607457
None
see >>316603158
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>>316590925
No game gives you a better feeling of being a game boss than this game.
Also, queen a qt.
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>>316590582
the game in a weird way punishes you for killing them. you dont get any good music, everybody treats you like a serial killer, ifs grindy, unsatisfying, and jump scares you at the end, not to mention permafucks itself so you can never actually get the good ending

unless you edit the files but that doesnt change what you did. this game is too meta i need to go outside
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>>316592331
>doesnt have asriel's soul

what the fuck was that final boss then
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>>316610616

filled with the souls of every creature in the underground except napstablook, the mind of asriel inhabiting flowey was capable of feeling compassion again, and regretted his actions. however, after breaking the barrier and releasing the souls to their owners, he returned to his form as a soulless flower.
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>>316610470
>. you dont get any good music
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2jVbSI9H4o
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>>316610616

Neutral run is Asriel using the power of six human souls.

True Pacifist is Flowey using the power of the six human souls + the soul of every monster in the underground.
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>>316606974
creepy song structures are always the same, they're a thing
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>>316610828
the other 99% of the game is weird ambience
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>>316592408
I don't blame Frisk. Who can resist cute lolis with knives?

>>316592467
Considering neither Frisk or Chara have a canon gender, it sounds like you're the one with the headcanon problem, Mr. Frogposter.
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STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl. You can kill everyone besides the Barkeep, Sakharov and a few guys in the Bar.
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best character
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>>316606974

https://d.maxfile.ro/beryidzssq.webm
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>>316590289

Going to go for a genocide run after getting true pacifist and having the final battle really get to me.

What am I in for?
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>>316611994
Heartache and 2 super bosses
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>>316590881
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>>316611238

It also takes a little longer than an hour, not including Undyne and Sans, to get through.
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>>316594370
>comparing killing some mooks to IRL murder
>false equivalences
Autism.
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>>316610803

>terrifying ultra-murderous monster stealing everyone's souls for ultimate power
>Napstblook just closes the curtains on him

Best ghost is based.
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I'd like to find a game that made me feel emotional extremes and become attached to its characters. Its been a week and I keep thinking about undertale.
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>>316612946
Play Nier.
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>>316611905
Friendly reminder that Napstablook > Sans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFu3N9PhiCg
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>>316590289
Play Rollercoaster Tycoon and convert your park into a torturous hell after a year.
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>>316598982
>Marche is a dick
>not that shitstain Mewt
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>>316598849
If you're still here, I like it very much.
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>>316590289
fallout 2 lets you be a real asshole to everyone
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>>316612946
Mother/Earthbound
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>>316590289

Paradox games if you have autism.
Subduing natives and creating totalitarian states is pretty much what they're all about.
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>>316597483
I assume I should start with the original yes? how are the other two games?
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>>316608416

Okay, I did and got an erection. Now what?
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Would you smooch a flower?
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>>316615819

Flowey's probably one of my favorite characters.
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>>316597662
>>316592090
worth 4$?
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>all the monsters try and kill you when you meet them
>get mad when you fight back

Fuck 'em.
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>>316611905
Stand back, pal
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>>316615819
Better question is...
Would you smooch a ghost?
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>>316618394
Well they're related

Clearly the blooks are the best family in the game, hands down. Goats can gtfo.
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>>316618430
God damn that's adorable.
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>>316619272
They also did Papyrus and Sans
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>>316618430

What is going on in the upper right?
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>>316620394
HEADOGS
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A
D
O
G
S
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>>316614553
Thanks anon!
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>>316618430
>>dat mtt and mad dummy in the upper right

>>316620530
humanized ghost mettaton and angry dummy
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>>316612770
How did you get IRL murder from that person's post? If two lines of text calling someone evil is enough to cause someone to complain, how does it not make sense when you killed a main character and at least one monster?

I guess it's just normal for a braindead faggots to label something as autism if someone uses cognitive thinking skills they're too retarded to use themselves.
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>mass genocide
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>>316615085
First Overlord is a really cool game, it mocks fantasy stereotypes and has a cool twist at the end. The DLC to it also makes you feel like an ultimate badass.
Second one I didn't like at all. You are fighting an obviously evil Roman Empire, you are playing as a 20 something dude raised by goblins because it was his destiny to become an evil overlord or something and it's town management mechanics are ridiculously boring. An evil overlord should have better ways to control the populace rather than personally mind controlling every single person in the town he conquered.
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>>316590582
>I mean it's the monsters that attack first not the other way around
I'm pretty sure you get the first strike in almost every fight.
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Might and Magic

there's a spell just for wiping out all weak creatures on the map. You can fly and murder peasants from the sky like a huehue.
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>>316590289
Fallout, Skyrim. If you choose to be that way, anyway
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So, did you got bored of him too, anons?
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>>316622923
When do you see this?
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>>316623072
At the end of a neutral-pacifist run if you keep fighting asgore again without changing anything Flowey has some interesting things to say and doesn't bother going to Omega mode
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>>316592408
>they
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>game has cool music, locales and flavor dialogue
>gameplay is utter garbage
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>>316590289
shogo
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>>316623206
> Flowey is so mad because he could never beat Sans.
Makes sense.
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>>316623314
I've seen this particular style of drawing before. I don't know who's making these.
But whoever it is, bless his drawing hand. My dick salutes.
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>>316624360
It's made by railroad mejic:

http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=7923480
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>>316624425
Thanks for providing sauce anon, appreciate it.
Can't say I quite like the inclusion of the goats into the whole thing. Frisk/Chara are definitely the hottest by themselves.
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>>316623206
>At the end of a neutral-pacifist run if you keep fighting asgore again without changing anything
How many times
I purposefully did nothing but spam "talk" and died 4 times to him in a vain effort to try and spare him my first playthrough
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>>316606719
>is to make the player feel bad for being a videogame player.
Or you know, being retarded? Did you actually think exp stood for experience, and that LOVE wasn't something more sinister RIGHT AFTER HE LIES TO YOU AND TRIES TO KILL YOU?
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>>316625919
You have to beat Asgore

And not kill Flowey
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>>316626140
Well shit, I killed Flowey.
>'I always knew you had it in you'
>or letting him go and risk his return
Lose-lose, really.
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>>316623206
>flower bitch never got passed getting dunked on
This is why I have SAVE powers and you don't.
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>>316626325
>or letting him go and risk his return
Even in the "best" ending you can't get rid of him. There's only one way.
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So I was gonna start this today.

I was thinking of going genocide just cause. Is that a bad idea for a first playthrough?
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>>316627058
It's an objectively bad idea according to the creator, but hey, power to you.
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>>316627058
Sort of

If you really complete genocide all the way to the end, you will never get the happiest ending
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>>316627058
Yeah, It changes the post credits image on true pacifist and few other things.
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>>316590289
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>>316627058
Genocide run focuses on fights and lets you skip all puzzles and 90% of the dialogue and is generally very grindy unlike the other runs so I wouldnt recommend it
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>>316627058
It loses almost all impact if you don't do a typical playthrough first to get attached to the characters.
If you aren't the type of guy who gets attached to characters, there isn't much in Genocide for you anyway besides the two boss battles.
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> meme games
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>>316627058
>Is that a bad idea for a first playthrough?
Yeah. Its also tedious and boring as hell, and fucks with your ability to get the happiest ending. Just do it after a no kill run if you really want to
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>>316627058

It's actually a great idea for a first playthrough since 99% of the planet did a pacifist route first, you will have an unique view on the game then, totally do it.
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>>316627058
Do whatever you want.
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>>316627058

Don't listen to those idiots that say it's grindy, it really isn't at all and if you are bored you can simply move and ALT+TAB out of the game and you will keep running in place so you can trigger fights and until they start you can just shitpost on /v/.
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>Asgore killed six people knowing he could get through the barrier with just one and you just kind of move on

Good on Tori I guess
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>>316627058

pacifist = shitty memelord jrpg weebshit tier
genocide = ow the edge memelord crawling in my skin tier
neutral = a best, kill every boss only for the best ending ever
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>>316627856
That whole family is made of fuckups of varying degrees but yeah Tori leaving was probably the smartest decision she's ever made. Can't raise kids with someone who's killed 6 of 'em.
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>>316627856
Kinda makes sense because Asgore is very reluctant to hurt anyone until he absolutely has to, so he would rather wait and hope no one comes than actually go on a murdering spree. Also hes dumb.
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>>316627856
He probably didn't, the way weapons and armor are scattered around implies previous humans didn't even make it to him.
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>>316627856
>Asgore killed six people knowing he could get through the barrier with just one and you just kind of move on
Why?
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>>316628167
Apparently there's a dialogue like "The Lost Soul sees the faces of humans past" or some shit like that. He's definitely skewered a few kids.

>>316628063
>reluctant to hurt anyone
>still killed 6 kids
>still trapped his people underground
Worst of both worlds desu
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>>316628167
Except his literally did
"You stare deep into the eyes of the Lost Soul. He remembers the gaze of humans past..."
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>>316628405
That's the one. Asgore "Hit the flowers, dead in hours" Dreemurr is a convicted kiddie killer.
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>>316628570
>>316628405

I don't know, it doesn't necessarily mean that. He could be remembering Chara and the humans from the great war ages ago.
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>>316628783
How could it mean anything else? The lost soul interactions are supposed to provoke deep reactions from the souls, why would you staring into his eyes make him remember angry humans in the war? It's clearly meant to reference the other human children he had to kill
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>>316590289
Practically every game out there except like sports and racing games allow you to cause widespread death and suffering.

Or did you think that the enemies you mow down in CoD doesn't suffer just because they don't fuck around with your save files?

Do you think that people who become homeless in when you decide to tear down their houses in Sim city just disappear?
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>>316628783
>humans
>as in more than one
Face it anon. Asgore "Spare the trident, spoil the child" Dreemurr killed those kids, anon.
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>>316623543
I'll agree with you, but sans is really really good, I just go back time to time just to fight him
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>>316629726
>Or did you think that the enemies you mow down in CoD doesn't suffer just because they don't fuck around with your save files?
>Do you think that people who become homeless in when you decide to tear down their houses in Sim city just disappear?
anon, they're video game characters, not people. they aren't real
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