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>you lived long enough to see pokemon die yo-kai watch is
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>you lived long enough to see pokemon die

yo-kai watch is the new hotness
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What is this? It looks way too good to be on the 3DS engine.
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>>316588891
Pokemon TRETTA Ultimate Z
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Call me a genwun fag if you want but I fucking miss when Pokémon was about colored animals fighting each other
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>>316589172
>colored
HOW DARE YOU
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>>316589172
>genwun
>colored
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>>316589172
It always has been. Just play without legendaries.
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>>316589265
What's the problem? We all knew they had colours even if they were red/blue/yellow on our screen.
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>>316588723
Pokemon fucking deserves it.

They had one of the largest franchises ever and in almost twenty fucking years, the new games are still almost identical in form.

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DO THAT?
Even Madden and COD innovated a LITTLE in twenty years. Holy fuck are pokemon games slaves to their original incarnations.

I am so glad something is coming along that might kick it right the fuck off it's throne of mediocre shit.

>BUT YOU CAN WEAR HATS THO
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>>316589172
I miss when Pokemon seemed fresh and new instead of rehashes of the same formula every year.

Black and White were the last game that tried to 'freshen' the formula, and you know what? THEY REHASHED THOSE GAMES WITH A DIRECT SEQUEL!

How does one company manage to lack such self-awareness?
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>>316589745
pokemon has changed a lot since the first games
complaining about the gameplay being similar to the first is like saying mario hasn't innovated because you always run and jump
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>>316589745
>But you can't wear hats HERE because hat wearing is special to ONE REGION IN THE WORLD
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>>316589840
>pokemon has changed a lot since the first games

Oh this will be good.

>YOU CAN WALK DIAGONALLY NOW

>complaining about the gameplay being similar to the first is like saying mario hasn't innovated because you always run and jump

Mario has innovated a LOT in the last twenty years, don't be a stupid dolt.

Mario in the 64 era is like night and day from Mario in the GC or Wii era. Why? Because Mario tried something new with the concept of running and jumping.

Pokemon meanwhile, still has six cities lined up on a grid on map, you still start on one square city perfectly placed so you have to visit them in order, you STILL have to fight NPCs who spend their entire lives staring at the side of a fence on a route, never moving even if you beat them.

What's funny is that it has LOST innovation. You can't call NPCs anymore, you can't use the more useful poketools anymore from previous generations, you can't dial into radio stations or try to see what is going on in the world anymore.

Nope! Half of the pokemon games now have completely worthless bottom screens all because no one ever considered what would happen if the player wasn't online. Can you imagine shipping a game whose crux feature can't be used if they, for instance, shut down the servers for the game?

And people STILL say it's okay. People still fucking defend Pokemon's regression and wallowing in mediocrity.

Going as far as to compare Pokemon's mediocrity every game as being important enough to the series and jumping in super mario.

Do you even listen to yourself?
Have you even asked yourself "Hey, I wonder how a pokemon game would be if it let me do (literally anything that isn't walking around linear routes to each sequential gym).
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>>316589849
SERIOUSLY
WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING? WHY HAVE IT AT ALL?

>They had it for the trailers so they could convince people that it would be "really different this time, we promise!" before going right back to making another copy+paste pokemon game (in 3D this time!)
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>>316590327
now THIS is autism
the worst part is that you have no idea what you are talking about
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>>316589840
>pokemon has changed a lot since the first games
AHAHAHAH FAGGOT

>Meanwhile Yokai Watch lets me go on adventures with my monsters.
>Or help around town
>Or have friends I fucking care about that aren't plot dumps that exist somewhere on the map that I can go talk to.

Feels good to watch the pokefag tears as their game sinks into obscurity.
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>>316590529
>Le autism meme

Looks like he's actually played most of the games and you're just a faggot that buys the new thing.
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>>316590529
Please point out the exact thing that is wrong about my post.

Please point out how Mario HASN'T changed considerably in 20 years while Pokemon is really new and innovative now, guyz!

Or you won't. Your best defense is to scream "AUUUUUUTISM" and clench your destroyed ass.
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>Yo-kai watch is the new hotness

I actually just got finished playing the demo for that game. The game is kind of shitty and boring, honestly. There's no combat interaction whatsoever, and it feels incredibly grindy. Battles take way too long and you don't seem to get much for them.
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>>316590963
Well you'll be happy to know that Yokai's Watch demo is shitty.

It was compiled by a trailer company that gives you a full party so all you have is doing shitty combat with none of the charm that makes the game fun.

So you can go play the actual game, which is actually extremely fun and challenging with no grind at all.

in fact, I would go as far as to say that the game is the anti-grind.
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>>316589840
>POKEMON ISN'T SHITTY, IT'S SHITTINESS IS PART OF THE GAME!

This is why Yokai Watch is going to decimate Pokemon in the West like it already has in the East. No normal person waits for the next game thinking "I can't wait for the next shitty installment of that game I've already played!"
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>>316588723
That thing literally just digivolved to it's ultimate form
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Do pokemon main games have actual side quests yet?
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>>316590963
As a hint from someone who fell in the same trap: Don't play the demo.
The demo is dogshit.
The demo is just "This is what the combat looks like! Here is what the game would look like if we took all the interesting and fun parts out and just had our combat system!"

It's like Hitman: Blood Money's demo, which made it seem like a linear corridor shooter.
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>>316589840
>pokemon has changed a lot since the first games
That depends on what yo value

If you actually give a fuck about stats and nature shit so you can battle online there is a decent amount of change

If you care about everything else there are minor changes that they don't even keep between games half the time
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>>316588723
Megavolutions are the death of Pokemon.
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looks like digimon desu senpai
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>>316588723
I don't get this post. They made a spinoff arcade game and then suddenly the game is dead? Or is it because you just don't like the new designs? Either reason would make you genuinely retarded to be honest family
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>>316588723
Yo-kai Warch looks fucking boring to play.

I hope it still kicks off though just so Pokemon has some competition. Might motivate them to actually not be lazy.

Also yo-kai watch has some bangin' loli and shota porn.
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>>316591405
Ha, no.
You can't even go find your friends and go places with them. They're anchored in one point in the world until the next big event has to happen.

It probably never will, either.
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Is there anything that drives adults to play those games besides nostalgia?

Every time I tried to play a Pokemon game I gave up one hour in, there's no depth of gameplay at all. It's baby's first JRPG. I don't understand why it's so popular with young adults.

There are so many better JRPG to play out there, I don't understand why Pokemon is so popular. Jade Cocoon, a PSX game, had a more interesting environment and characters as well as a much deeper combat and monster breeding system. It was released in 1998, two years after Pokemon Red and Blue.
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>>316588723
Dude, the serie is already dying in Japan.
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>>316591535
I think this is actually different from a megaevolution. Yes there are multiple stupid types of this now
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>>316591616
Fuck off reddit
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>>316590858
Mario changed from SNES to N64 but it's been literally the same thing since then.
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>>316591645
The issue is that most Pokemon-likes are grindy or have shitty combat systems. Jade Cocoon is the only one I can think of that isn't one or the other.
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>>316591645
You're not wrong. Pokemon games are garbage now because they haven't changed the formula in twenty years. Twenty years and it's still the same story with the same character types with only mixups on the gyms, stats, and team names.

The problem isn't the formula. The problem is that you're playing the only thing the formula had to represent it. Go try Yokai watch, it's like someone took pokemon and said "I'm going to do it right this time!"
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So apparently the date in the Battlefield 3 Paris mission is the same as the recent terror attacks.
Can anyone confirm? What did they mean by this?
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>>316588723
It'll be competition for a few years and die out like all the other "new hotness" franchises. It's happened many times, itll happen again.
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At the very least, now Pokemon has a competitor and will have to actually improve the quality of their games.
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>>316591864
>Mario changed from SNES to N64 but it's been literally the same thing since then.

Holy shit.
It's like you missed that the last twenty years even happened!

But I guess you ARE a pokefag.
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Gen1 and 2 are the only acceptable Generations. Anything past that is shit.
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>>316592025

nigga what the fuck
you lost nigga?
that's some fucked up weed u smokin my man
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>>316591864
>Mario changed from SNES to N64 but it's been literally the same thing since then.

Kid are you fucking stupid? Do you even remember Galaxy or Sunshine or- Fuck it. You're either braindamaged or a troll. Kill yourself.
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>>316591860
>le reddit meme
run into oncoming traffic, family
>>316592081
>YK watch
>competing with pokemon
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>>316591726
it's an alternate forme, something that has been in the games since gen 3
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>>316591645
Pokemon marketing in the 90's was fucking stronk. The games were a crazy new thing, everyone tuned into kidsWB at 4 to watch a pokemon episode, you were competing to see who had the most pokemon cards, you wanted to watch the big screen movie releases, and the kid who had the gb cartridge adapter for n64 to play 3d pokemon was hot shit. Doesn't surprise me that people in their 20-30's are still trying relive some of that.
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>>316592173
>Not knowing the new word filters that have been in place for almost a month
>Telling anyone else to go back to Reddit.

Go back where you belong.
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>>316592006
Except everytime they try to change formula in the gameplay, like with mega evos, you have people screaming pokemon is dead because they changed something.
Also people will forget yokai even exists when next pokemon game is announced
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>>316592214
and yet people try to argue that gen 3 wasn't when shit started getting stupid
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>>316592232
Not just that, in the 90's it was a new thing. No JRPG had something quite like it. It was a remarkable game.

They should have done something with it.
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Gen1fags are fucking retarded. It's never about the games themselves, all they ever fucking care about is the Pokemon designs, which are the least of the series's problems. They're fine, except Megaevolutions.

If you want to bitch, bitch about how the games have become much easier, even for Pokemon. Bitch about the games trying really hard to capture an amazing RPG plotline while still being unable to top Gen 3's simple but effective story. Or the Elite 4 literally being sequestered to 4 Pokemon, with Gym Leaders only allowed to have 2 or at maximum 3, with only your rival and the champion being the only ones in-game to have a full team. Bitch about how they're not going to put customized trainers back in the game because it's too hard, or about the super shit graphics that Yokai Watch, ON THE SAME SYSTEM, puts to fucking shame. Or how bad the music's gotten.

God I hated Gen 6. Even Gen 4 and 5 were better, and they were seriously flawed. Fuck.
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>>316592294
>implying i'm the same guy
>not knowing how to check samefag
oh family
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>>316592307
>Except everytime they try to change formula in the gameplay, like with mega evos

Hoooooly fucking shit.

Is THIS what you consider innovation?
No no, I want you to reiterate this, get back here. Are you calling mega evos 'innovative gameplay'? Like this somehow changes everything or X and Y is an innovative pokemon game because of it?

Please tell me what is now different.
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>>316592159
64, sunshine and galaxy are spinoffs
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regardless who you are, you have to agree the main campaigns in pokemon suck ass now. hand holding out the ass and ultra linear.

also megas were too big of a change. theres NO going back now that megas are a thing.
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>>316592413
Let's not forget how people you find in the wild still stand still forever and ever, or how routes are completely pointless once you beat them except for a select few, or how every 'innovative' feature like customization is rendered pointless in the same game!

But remember:
>>316589840
Shittiness is built into the game! Making a pokemon game that isn't shitty is like making a mario game where you can't jump!
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>>316592307
>like with mega evos
cause they were a badly implemented change. Once you got once it is just do you want to make an easy battle easier?

That isn't a change to formula. That would be like changing the number of moves your pokemon can have, not having trainers just stand or walk up and down, getting rid of gyms for a new challenge or proper open world
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>>316592651
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>>316592413
Fuck off retard.
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>>316592651
64 is a mainline mario game. Good job at least trying to grab at straws, I guess.
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>>316591645
>Is there anything that drives adults to play those games besides nostalgia?

It has a surprisingly big competitive scene. Pokemon is actually pretty complex but you'll never notice that if you only play the story.

During gen V it actually looked like GF would finally acknowledge that fanbase by giving the games a hard mode and releasing DW abilities which helped a few Pokemon a lot. Then they went ahead and through it all in the trash again with gen VI by making it baby tier easy.
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Who here can't wait for the mainline Pokemon series to die so Nintendo can focus on the great shit like Mystery Dungeon or another console Pokemon game like Colosseum?
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>>316592446
I never said anything abou innovation you moron. Let me spell it out for you since you clearly cant think.
They CANT change the formula because if simple addition of something new caused a shitstorm then actual big changes would put the games at a risk of not selling because people DONT want things changed.
Also, every sinle long running franchise, especially the ones that belong to nintendo have the same issue, they stay the same because changing things makes people angry and hinders sales
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best opening music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQWKpDK87Ss
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The only good thing that keeps coming out of pokemon is the anime waifus.

This is now a pokewaifu thread. Let me start with the classic slut.
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>>316592936
>Pokemon is actually pretty complex but you'll never notice that if you only play the story.
You mean once you ban a load of shit and are down to a handful of pokemon that are any good?
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>>316592936
>It has a surprisingly big competitive scene. Pokemon is actually pretty complex but you'll never notice that if you only play the story.

Literally no sane person cares about this. People who buy pokemon games don't do it so they can tediously train EVs to play battles online which are mostly rigged anyway.

They do it because they want a good single player game with fun multiplayer. Pokemon only has the later part, but lacks anything resembling fun single player anymore.
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>>316588723
>not posting the song

Youkai Watch wishes it can get HOTBLOODEDNESS in its spin-off game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXbg94d7dng

TAMASHII NO ZETTO, MISITE YARU
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>>316593052
>misty with large breasts
This is wrong.
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Huh, I knew Yokaifags would exist in /v/. Reminds me of Digifags.
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>>316592975
>I never said anything abou innovation you moron. Let me spell it out for you since you clearly cant think.

oh please Mister Pokefag, let me hear your brilliant logic as to why innovating in Pokemon is a bad idea.

>They CANT change the formula because if simple addition of something new

Here we go again. Something 'new'.
Last I checked making more evolutions for pokemon isn't 'new'. Even if those evolutions require effort to get.

>Also, every sinle long running franchise, especially the ones that belong to nintendo have the same issue, they stay the same because changing things makes people angry and hinders sales

Mario, Zelda, Metroid, even Starfox are trying new things all of the time. Why isn't Pokemon?

What's funny is that Nintendo could release Gen 4 rom-hacks and none of you apologists would know the difference.
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>>316590529
/vp/ please go.
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When will Gamefreak let the players walk with their fucking Pokemon again?

Why was this even removed in the later games? It still boggles my mind to this day.
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>>316592671
The worst thing is that they give you too much free shit now. In XY they give you a kanto starter and a lucario and even more shit, it's ridiculous.

But my biggest gripe with the series is that each game adds a great new mechanic that isn't carried over to the next game. It's like each game is made by a different studio who has no communication with the others. HGSS had the toggle-to-run button and pokemon following you, both of which were great. But nope, no game after those will have those features.

At least TMs are reusable now. Hopefully HMs will be turned into TMs just so you don't have to go to the Move Deleter. If you can't sell TMs, they're basically the same as HMs anyway
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>>316593390
Yeah, certainly see how Other M helped the franchise.
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>>316593170
It's a different feel, doesn't mean YW isn't better.

https://youtu.be/lAox3PZYmSY
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>>316593412
>expecting something different in Pokemon

FUCK OFF YOKAIFAG BUY THE NEXT SHIT INSTALLMENT AND BE HAPPY

Also don't ask why they removed the cell phone, the radio, the pokedar, any useful pokegear, or didn't incorporate shitty online functions purely to the bottom of the screen, all of which will become obsolete when people stop playing it.
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>>316593439
>The worst thing is that they give you too much free shit now. In XY they give you a kanto starter and a lucario and even more shit, it's ridiculous.
Looks like someone never played the first two gens.
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PURICHII SHOUKAN
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>>316593501
Yeah, but it was something new.
Can you imagine how Metroid would be if it was the same thing as Metroid 1 forever and ever? That's what Pokemon is doing. Pokemon likely missed out on several Super Metroids just because Gamefreak is too paralyzed of trying ANYTHING new.
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>>316593412
This! fuck that was the best feature in G/S having your pokemon follow you around and all you had to do was turn around and talk to them to see how much more fond of you they became. Also loved the text of how they'd jump up and hug you.
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>>316592651
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>>316593412
You want them to add improvements AND keep them?

What is wrong with you? How else will they keep the games fresh and up to date if they don't remove everything and then add only one good new thing?
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>>316593571
Not him, but they turned up the free shit they give you to eleven in XY. It's noticeably different.

Even in Gens one and two you needed to trade to get most of anything worth having.
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>>316593170
I have the strangest urge to rewatch Macross 7.
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>>316589745
>>316589838
>>316590642
>>316591502
>>316590327
>>316593557
>>316593642
The only rehashed thing is the story. It's always the same formula about getting 8 badges and shit but they always added/changed new shit in each generation.

Gen 5 was the one that changed the less probably, yet it still added Rotation Battle, Triple Battle, Hidden Abilities and Animated sprites.

Gen 3 added Abilities, Natures and Double battles.

Gen 6 Added Mega Evolution, Fairy type, Horde battle, Trainer customization (X/Y only), Walking diagonally, Pokemon Amie and Super training which actually show your Pokemon'e EVs and Horde Battle which is extremely useful for EV training.

Gen 2 made the "Special" stat split and added genders, breeding, Shiny Pokemon, Dark and Steel type.

Gen 4 made it so every types can now have both Physical and Special attack. For example, Waterfall in previous games was a Special attack despite you charging on your opponent, because it was a Water type move and every water type moves were Special. Now, Waterfall is a Physical move thanks to Gen 4's Physical/Special split, meaning stuff like Gyarados actually has a STAB physical move. This change alone made it different from previous games mechanic-wise.

With all of these changes and additions, it's obvious that the game just keep changing and if you played several of the games it's quite obvious outside of the story.
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>>316592825
>>316592918
>>316593707
it's true though

the main mario games are super mario bros 1-3, super mario world, new super mario bros, new super mario bros wii and new super mario bros U
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>>316593642
>Can you imagine how Metroid would be if it was the same thing as Metroid 1 forever and ever?
It would probably keep getting games. Hey remember that metroid spin-off? THAT NEW THING? Because that was well received wasnt it
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le epic yo-kai watch killing pokemon meme XD
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>>316591645

>don't even touch the core of the game, the multiplayer
>why people like this game?

You are dumb.
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>>316593761
So they added and changed a bit that only people who play online religiously care about?

In the single player you are killing most shit with 1-3 hits and it gets easier as the games go on
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>>316593761
>ALL THESE CHANGES AND ADDITION AND THE GAME KEEPS CHANGING

>LIKE BATTLE TYPE #1, BATTLE TYPE #2, A SPECIAL STAT, TRIPLE BATTLES WHICH ARE NEVER USED EXCEPT FOR A FEW PLACES IN THE WORLD, AND- AND- HORDE BATTLES, FOR GRINDING, GRINDING IS INNOVATION, RIGHT?
>UM EXCEPT THE MAIN 'GAME' THING. IGNORE THAT PLEASE

Fuck off.
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>>316593642
But Super Metroid is an upgraded Metroid 2 which is an upgraded Metroid 1, then got upgraded once again for Fusion. They are the same game but made better and better each time. Metroid only changed with Prime which some people see in a bad light and with Other M, which is shit. How about Federation Force? It changed Metroid, when people just wanted a game like the classics or the Primes.
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>>316593506
YW music is crap though, it feels generic. At least if you're gonna go generic, at least go HONOO NO SADAME.

>>316593903
>>316593913
>implying those are "minimal changes" on a game focused on battles

that's like saying SF2 to SF3 has "minimal" changes because it still involves two people fighting

>>316593761
>responding to bait posters
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>>316593761
>Walking diagonally
Truly innovation.
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Digimon revival in the west WHEN?!
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>we want the metabot audience
>we want the digimon mega digivolution audience
>we want the gundam audience


it's time to move on and support the pokemon killer that is shota watch!
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Why isn't there serious discussion to shut down /vp/?
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I like how people go "people don't care about competitive shit" and ignore the big sponsored, official events.

I mean, I know this is a bait thread, but still, you'd think baiters would try harder. Good bait require facts twisted.
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>>316593997
Again, you are killing most stuff with 1-3 hits in the single player. You don't notice that shit at all.

Unless you are obsessed with the multiplayer it makes no difference
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>>316593761
>The only rehashed thing is the story. It's always the same formula about getting 8 badges and shit but they always added/changed new shit in each generation.


So anything that people would want to play hasn't changed, but that's okay because a bunch of meaningless online trash has innovated? Most of which is actually the same thing that's existed in previous games like Breeding which you treat as something NEW AND SPECIAL for some reason.

I fucking LOVE how you wrote "walking diagonally" like this is something new. This is like adding 'controlling your character' as a new and completely innovative concept that no one has thought of before.

It really only solidifies in my mind that people who still play Pokemon 'competitively' have some kind of mental illness. Like training EVs and having the 'perfect' team (except if they contain banned pokes, those aren't allowed) is the only way they can get joy from the games anymore.

Awful.
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>>316593997
>implying those are "minimal changes" on a game focused on battles

Sorry, I didn't realize that I bought a game that only lets me pokemon battle.
I thought for a second there was a 'game' surrounding this grinding simulator you jerk off over. Suck my dick.
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>>316594109
And guess how big that aspect is in Pokemon.

>>316594090
With that said I agree on this. /vp/ is a shithole.
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>>316592413
So what I'm getting from this is that genwunners are not autistic and don't hang to a game with no depth.
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>>316593745
Yeah ok.

>Starter
>Hitmon
>Eevee
>Lapras
>Fossil
>Aerodactyl

>Starter
>Spearow
>Eevee
>Dratini
>Shuckle
>Togepi
>Odd Egg with 1/64 shiny


>starter
>Kanto starter
>Lucario
>Lapras

Fucking amazing how they turned it up, dude.
Really fucking amazing.
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>>316594231
>his game doesn't let him battle
>he still grinds in Pokemon

and sorry I would suck a dick but I can't find yours, maybe your mom has it
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>>316590529

Dude don't be a fag. He's got a point and beat your weak argument with it, just accept it.
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>>316593997
>that's like saying SF2 to SF3 has "minimal" changes because it still involves two people fighting

SF2 and SF3 had genuinely different gameplay styles. Pokemon added some extraneous shit that you don't even get to play online because all online and 'competitive' ever is is the same 1v1 battle with a banlist.

It's fucking awful that people are such apologists in this day and age.
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>>316594238
>how big that aspect is in Pokemon.
not as much as you think, in fact the majority of people who have bought pokemon will not play the online for a huge amount of time
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>>316593997
>YW music is crap though, it feels generic. At least if you're gonna go generic, at least go HONOO NO SADAME.
I disagree.

I think for the most part it's pretty good and has a very recognizable feel and character to it.
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>>316594320
>intentionally skipping half of the shit
>Listing shit you trade for as 'free'.
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>>316591645
Jade Cocoon is fantastic
>mfw blending creatures together as a kid
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>>316594385
>he relies on smogon, an unofficial "tier" list which is only sanctioned in simulators
>fucking 1v1 only

kekkest of kek

>>316594427
when was the last time you actually checked multiplayer, DP era? if anything it's more unlikely not to get an online anything since Gen 6, and again you ignore the huge sponsored activities
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Just played Yokai for 2 hours, boring as fuck, glad I just downloaded it.
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>>316594323
>he still grinds in Pokemon

literally the only reason to play the awful single player is to grind your pokemon to get the right stats and EVs.

Unless you're admitting that you hack in all your pokemon so you can get straight to the online. Please tell me what's what you're doing, because you're basically admitting the game is too shit for you to bother with but you'll gladly lap it up anyway.
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>>316594496
What the fuck are you talking about, you clueless retard?

http://www.serebii.net/rb/gift.shtml

http://www.serebii.net/crystal/gift.shtml

http://www.serebii.net/xy/gift.shtml
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>>316594464
You clearly haven't heard actual good kodome opening anon. You want recognizable shit, go listen to something like Doraemon or Sazae-chan.
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>>316594618
>Crystal

nice try, you fucking faggot.
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>>316594090
This. Replace /vg/ with a new board /es/ - Esports
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>>316594596
>he seriously still thinks it's a grind
>he seriously thinks the perfect mons are hard to get and require hacking

It's not Gen IV anymore anon
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I love how that one faggot went silent after metroid spin-off was mentioned
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>>316594562
>he relies on smogon, an unofficial "tier" list which is only sanctioned in simulators

It's also what most people play.

>fucking 1v1 only
Which is what most of the online battles are.

Are we done here, or are you only admitting that you buy pokemon every year as a shitty JRPG simulator, and you don't even like the JRPG part.
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>>316593847

I thought most people played the games for the singleplayer. What makes the multiplayer better? With such a simple battle system I can't imagine multiplayer not becoming super repetitive after a while. Or do you mean exchanging pokemons? And anyway I suppose you'll have to grind through the singleplayer in order to capture and train your monster for multiplayer.

For some reason that reminded me of the multiplayer mode of the first Golden Sun, I had a lot of fun with that with my friends in high school.

>>316594552

Yeah this game made a strong impression on me. I'll have to try and replay it at some point. I really liked the "Princess Mononoke" vibe of the forest.
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>>316594707
The only change is the Odd Egg, fuckball. And i even forgot the Tyrogue.
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>>316594728
>he seriously thinks the game gives you optimized pokemon.

If you want something that won't get destroyed online. You have to grind for it, because nothing has the right EVs right out the gate.

That's what we're fucking talking about.
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>>316594782
>most people play

"most" of those people never even played pokemon, only the simulators anon

the one who actually play pokemon online tend to be varied, with more people going for 2v2

and no you're admitting that you rely a different statistic for getting data

>>316594882
Yes and again, you imply getting max EVs is a chore in Gen VI
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>>316593847
>multiplayer
>core of this single player franchise.

>most games disabled the multiplayer ages ago.

You are dumb.
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>>316594938
>Mentions EV only
>Not IV
I know iv breeding is easy as fuck right now, but you need some time to get decent ones even with this.
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>>316594839
Try Yokai Watch
Don't play the demo.

The demo is ass.
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The big problem with pokemon is that, if you try ti innovate/overhaul the mechanics as they are now too much? You piss off the fanbase because suddenly legions of pokemon are no longer useable in future games, like the gap between gens 2 and 3. Years of catching, breeding, transferring, events, tournaments, hours spent in the battle tower, all gone because your pokes wouldn't be useable anymore.

And that's pretty much why pokemon is extremely limited in how it can grow.
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>>316593412
They would have to redraw the sprites for every pokémon plus make new sprites for gen 5 pokémon.
And they knew that if they did that in Gen 5 they would have to animate every single pokémon of the more than 700 pokémon that exist for X and Y.
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>>316595039

Noted anon. Thanks for the recommandation.
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>>316594956
>pokemon
>not multiplayer

wat

>>316595018
you only brought up EVs anon, and the only time you need to spend is starting up the wheel, once you get it going you won't have trouble

>>316595052
nigga they can't bring 12 to 3 because of different data structure, nothing to do with gameplay systems since they change them alot every gen
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>>316593913
>>316593903
If you would have actually played the game you would easily notice a lot of these things I mentioned are noticed and used in the game even outside of online.

The only things that people don't give a shit about or don't use it outside of online are Rotation/Triple battles, maybe Super Training and EVs, Breeding, Horde battles and maybe Natures, it depend.

>>316594130
>Online trash

If you wouldn't be a dumbfuck and played the games you would easily notice most of those are noticeable and used even in-game. Where did I say that Breeding was news for newer games?

Special/Physical split, the new types, Animated sprites, Double Battles, Trainer Customization, Abilities, and more are obvious and very noticeable changes/addition that you use/see in-game. Without those, games like gen 5 wouldn't be the same. Horde Battle also make it very easy to EV train Pokemon in gen 6. You just don't know what you're talking about, pls go.
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>>316591645
Fuck yes, Jade Cocoon was great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK4StMPRg3Y

Shame about the sequel.
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>>316594938
I just went and turned on XY right now, and it was covered in a list of 1v1s with a few 3v3s.

I would do the same with Black, but Nintendo fucking disabled the multiplayer for it. So as far as you're concerned, it's just a fucking paperweight now with zero reason to play because they never bothered trying to make the JRPG part fun in their fucking JRPG video game.

Which goes back to my point: If you buy Pokemon specifically because you want the number and grinding simulator: you are not the 'average' person who plays it.
Pokemon is getting WRECKED in Japan by Yokai watch, wanna know why? It's because Gamefreak never once thought that having the same fucking game forever would ruin themselves.

Apparently there are still some people dense enough to cling to it.
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>there are people right now who thinks Pokemon doesn't heavy carry a multiplayer aspect

I mean, there is baiting, but this is just another level

>>316595262
>Nintendo
>not Gamespy
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>Look at metacritic scores of Youkai Watch
>It's like 75

Seems like a shit game to me.
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>>316589172
That isn't a genwun thing. Anyone who was around for gen 1 or gen 2 knows the designs went to shit starting in 3. Gen 5 they went full shit
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>>316595262
Now I'm being trolled. 2v2 is one of the most popular matchups in the game right now.

You can literally filter match types. And 3v3 is definitely the least popular.

>that rest of the statement

nevermind, thanks for admitting your stance, and here I thought I was actually educating a shitposter
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>>316595195
>pokemon
>multiplayer

Okay, hey I'll meet you in Shalour city, and I'll summon you so we can go fight trainers together. How does that sound?

Oh right, I fucking can't do anything even remotely close to that because Gamefreak are a collection of old men stuck in the past unable to even comprehend that 'online' exists.

DO YOU SEE WHY CALLING POKEMON A MULTIPLAYER GAME SOUNDS SO STUPID TO ANYONE THAT PLAYS ANY GAME EXCEPT POKEMON?
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>>316595262
>Pokemon is getting WRECKED in Japan by Yokai watch
was
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>>316595262
>Pokemon is getting WRECKED in Japan by Yokai watch

Having competition =/= getting wrecked
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>>316595262
>wrecked
We'll talk when next mainline game gets announced, at this point yokai is FOTM like new games always are, we need to see how it fares in a year or so
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>>316589745
If Nintendo had the rights to make main games probably pokemon would be a lot better nowadays
GF are a bunchbof clowns and if you buy any pokemon game after that garbage of X/Y you're cancer.
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>>316595198
>I'm a dumb fucking faggot that got called out and now has to resort to backtracking

Backtrack harrrrder, and harrrrder.
And you STILL keep listing minor shit that should have been in the second the technology allowed.

Fuck, animated sprites were in Crystal and they took those out because I guess Pokefags couldn't take all that 'innovation'!

Hey, I have this romhack I want to sell you.
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>>316595513
>he thinks multiplayer works like that

nigga there's a button there at the touchscreen for online and local wireless, automatically brings you to the multiplayer screen, much less intrusive and less retarded

you're supposed to make me angry for shitposting pokemon, not acting stupid, goddamnit anons!

>>316595606
Not really actually, in fact even with Iwata magic they could barely put everything in gen 2.

>all those shit in Gen VI
>being able to put in Gen II

In fact they use different data systems hence why they can't be brought to gen 3.

See now this is better trolling. At least you don't look like an idiot.
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>>316595514
>>316595571
>>316595572

gamerant.com/pokemon-sales-outsold-japan-2014/

Yes, Is. Pokemon is getting wrecked. This isn't up for debate, it's happening and trying to deny it is blinding yourself to the reality that less and less people want your by-the-numbers pokemon games anymore.
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Yo-kai watch is a bad game that people are trying to justify because it's like Pokemon
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>>316595772
>he thinks multiplayer works like that

Is Pokemon the only game you've played the last two decades?

No, I want to know. I want to think no one is so stupid that they don't think that Multiplayer can work that way, and it isn't provably fun.

Are you seriously telling me you never thought "Boy I wish this Pokemon game had co-op, or something to do in this world besides follow the same routes!"

Because if you haven't, that's your problem. The rest of the gaming world has moved on and Pokemon is still desperately reaching for scraps.
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>>316593745
to be fair there are also like 6 times as many pokemon now it balances out the catch em all grind
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>>316595581
GF is the source of all the issues.

They suck at coding and never improved(X/Y had frame rate issues just the same as B/W)

They are very nazi about the pokemon IP even to nintendo even though nintendo holds a large ownership in the mainline games.

They are oblivious to obvious cheating and instead focus to obscure cheating(They release a patch to fix trade cloning but it took nintendo getting on their ass to fix injection)
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>>316595791
>2014
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>>316595897
Yeah, those are the same people who think Pokemon MMO is something coveted when it would be the most ill-conceived thing to happen.

Oh god please make me angry by shitposting pokemon, not by looking stupid. It's so low tier that fucking Smash threads had better responses.
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>>316595772
>nigga there's a button there at the touchscreen for online and local wireless, automatically brings you to the multiplayer screen, much less intrusive and less retarded

>you're supposed to make me angry for shitposting pokemon, not acting stupid, goddamnit anons!

>BU- BU- BU STOP ACTING STUPID THO

I would fucking buy a game where you could hop into another person's world in an instant. Are you really so fucking stupid that you've never heard of a game that let's you do that before?

Again, you're acting like a fucking chump. You're sucking down Pokemon's shit and your best defense is "I JUTS WANT TO BATTLE IN MY FUCKING SANDBOX NO DON'T DO ANYTHING INNOVATIVE LIKE LET ME PLAY WITH ANOTHER HUMAN IN MY GAME WORLD, I WANT TO LIVE IN THE 00's FOREVER".

Eat shit, you're fucking hopeless.
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>>316588723
>Pokémon die

Fuck you OP, finally Pokémon becomes great. Finally Pokémon becomes the only true "mon", Digimon.
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I miss when pokemon was just a simple RPG about fighting animals.

Now it's a systems packed spreadsheet nightmare which attracts the worst kind of autists.
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>>316595606
>And you STILL keep listing minor shit that should have been in the second the technology allowed.
>Minor

My point about you never have played the game is just getting obvious at this point. By animated sprites I'm talking about them being constantly animated in battle, not just an entrance animation.

>>316595791
>10 months ago

Like >>316595514 said, was. It outsold ORAS (For one Yokai game) but that doesn't mean ORAS wasn't a big success too. Is the game even successful in the west? VGchartz doesn't deliver.
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>>316596073
Again, try harder. I'm bored of shitty responses like this. Make a post in similar to sound like you know something, like the "coding" and data structure of mons.

Here, let me help you with that
bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/
go randomly search an entry, and make shit up. At least you won't sound like a broken record. At least try to be different and not be boring.
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>>316595897
>co-op

what would that even entail
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what's this /vp/ thread doing here?
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>>316595791
>2014
>2
>0
>1
>4
Nice, retard. Two games sold 500k more with a FIVE MONTH HEADSTART.
Not only it surpassed them long ago, but global sales of it are way, WAY bigger than all the YW games COMBINED.
Literally off yourself.
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>>316596143
ebin
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>>316596072
>Yeah, those are the same people who think Pokemon MMO is something coveted when it would be the most ill-conceived thing to happen.

Says the autist whose only fun is jerking off over numbers in multiplayer.

Also pic related, that's you.

>>316596273
>>316595897
>HEE HEE YOU'RE S-SO STUPID THOUGH I'M NOT THE ONE CLINGING TO A TWENTY YEAR OLD GAME DESIGN THAT NO ONE FINDS FUN, NOT EVEN MYSELF.

At least pretend you're not crying on the inside before you post again.
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>>316589172
>Pokeballs
>Sludge monster
>Sambo doll
>Mass-o-vines with feet
>CGI rocking horse
>magnets with screws
>Kirby reject
>Chack N' Pop reject
>A fucking rock
>Faggot clown
>Primordial Ooze
If you're not baiting, probably didn't catch them all. It was never colored animals fighting each other.
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>>316596321
hey, give the guy some credit, at least he didn't use vgchartz

>>316596432
>using pics

ahahah anon I'm playing something else and only pop out when I see an exclamation point

here let me trigger you folks more, I'm playing Guild Wars 2 :^)
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>>316596024
>>316596193
>>316596321

>T-TEN MONTHS AGO THO

It's fucking last year, the last year we have to compare to two in terms of sales because 2015 isn't over yet.

This isn't fun anymore. Pokefags are getting BTFO around every corner and the best they can do is grasp as their "muh shitty multiplayer" straws and repair their bandaged assholes.
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What if the old pokemon ate the new ones every region, and the only old ones still around were rare and actually difficult to capture (because they're strong and not because of some shitty roaming around gimmick)
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>>316595791
The games are not selling more, it's the anime that's more popular (which right now is actually losing steam). Besides which that's only in Japan, it's irrelevant in the rest of the world.
But you're right! Pokemon killer!
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>>316588723
that looks pretty cool to be honest family
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>>316596073
>Are you really so fucking stupid that you've never heard of a game that let's you do that before?
not that guy or anything but that sounds stupid. i never even connected to the online part in the souls games, fuck other people
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>>316588723
>We digimon now
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>>316596640
>now
1996 called
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>>316593052
You blew it.
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Yo-Kai Watch is never going to beat Pokémon in the West. The games are cool but there's no appeal because the designs are way too Japanese.
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>>316590327

pokemon could have evolved the way of pokemon snap, where in order to capture each creature by actually exploring, tracking them down in their natural habitat and then battling them, instead of constant massacre along your route.

I`d be all for having less NPC battles in general, Instead I`d rather have 2 or 3 of different trainers in each town who you can battle again and again. But every time you repeat the battle, the trainers team gets progressively harder and exploits different tactics and adds more pokemon to his team.
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>>316596524
>ahahaha :^)

Every time. You're only proving that you lost long ago and your best argument at this point is "SHUT UP AND LIKE MY SHITTY GAME".
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>>316596640
Hah, Digimon wish it has Dragon x Tallgeese Gundam
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>>316596706
Well? What the fuck do you want 1996? I'm kind of busy here.
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>>316596624
If you don't like playing with other people. Why do you like a fucking pokemon game of all games?

You heard it yourself, from the pokefaggot cult infesting this thread: The only fun is the multiplayer. There is nothing else fun in the game, and they don't want it to be fun, either.
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Pokepark wii was the best departure from the formula ever, and showed the most promise with a real-time battle system. I wish it had been more popular so we couldn't had a real-time battling console game. I gave up on "pokemon mmo" when I was 12, real-time battles are the dream.
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>>316588723
>people save your webms and use them to start shitpost threads
whyy
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>>316596729
>fb
Angry cooterhurt landwhales crushed his tumblr, eh?
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>>316596837
Pokkén is the best you'll get for now.
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>>316596846
probably someone form /vp/
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>>316595217
I liked the sequel...
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>>316596729
he keeps posting that image, amazing!

you should really just post porn, at least after I alt tab I have something worth to see
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>>316588723
pokemon died with mega evos coming from holding an object.

Also the mandatory loading screens even when opening the menu killed the game even more.

X/Y starters were retarded too.
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>pokequeers in this thread

>YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO LIKE THE SINGLE PLAYER, THE SINGLE PLAYER IS TRASH I ONLY PLAY IT FOR THE MULTIPLAYER IN WHAT FEW GAMES DADDY NINTENDO LETS ME PLAY ANYMORE
>THE ONLY FUN IN THE GAME IS TO JERK OFF WITH PEOPLE ONLINE IN MY TURN-BASED JRPG

That's fucking depressing. Do you faggots listen to yourself?

You're buying a sixty dollar game to play the turn-based portion of, and only the turn-based portion of, on the internet with other people who did the same thing, all the while pretending the problems that exist in the base game aren't real.

Do you realize how fucking pathetic that makes you look? You're literally saying that the main part of the game is inferior but you're so stupid you'll buy it to do the same thing you can do online for free.
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>>316596552
Because you're saying that Yokai IS outselling Pokemon, but it actually WAS outselling Pokemon because this article is from fucking 10 months ago, and people are saying Yokai is actually losing steam as time pass, so much for the fucking "Pokemon Killer". Well at least the fanbase isn't bad and is actually civil outside of "POKéMON KILLER XDD" shitposters, from what I've seen.

>>316596729
Let me help you bro.
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>Tfw you just enjoy the games without caring about the people who keep shitposting
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>>316591287
I'm playing Yo Kai watch as well. I didn't get far but it seems like a promising game. Pokemon NEEDS competition if it is ever going to try to better itself as a franchise. Now Gamefreak may actually have to try to make their next game fun.
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>>316597045
>Because you're saying that Yokai IS outselling Pokemon, but it actually WAS outselling Pokemon because this article is from fucking 10 months ago

It IS outselling pokemon, until proven otherwise.

The delusions in your head are not a reliable source of what is or isn't selling. Fucking retard.
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>>316596726
That sounds tedious as all hell. I'd love it for a spinoff but the mainline games should stay generic JRPG with collectible monsters.
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>>316597119
this

feels good to not be a pleb
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Pokemon is trash now, and the multiplayer is literally the most autistic shit.
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>>316597138
It WAS unless you have a current source
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>>316596983
What else is there to say? You're clearly a faggot that doesn't care about the quality of the games. Your best reason for buying them has been walking diagonally and animated sprites. Both of which can be found in every fucking JRPG made post-2000.

You're a fucking idiot that wants to keep buying the same dogshit game over and over again on the basis that Nintendo told you to buy it. A literal brainwashed retard.
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>>316592173
Apparently YK watch was a huge success in Japan; where it matters.
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>>316597236
It IS unless YOU have a current source proving otherwise.

Go on, show me the chart that shows Youkai Watch falling behind Pokemon, go.
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>>316590327
it's all Gamefreak's fault. They know they can keep getting away with minimal effort.

I fucking hate Gamefreak.
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>>316597138
>It IS outselling pokemon, until proven otherwise.
Ok.
http://nintendoeverything.com/youkai-watch-2-pokemon-omega-rubyalpha-sapphire-lead-holiday-sales-in-japan/

This is from 9 months ago, too.
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>>316596975
So did I, but the fusion system was dumbed down so much it was practically pointless, and having to find/buy/trade eggs was way more boring than capturing the beasts. It was pretty much a different game altogether.
Though I will admit, the new combat was an improvement.
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>>316589172
>uses smeargle
literally the bane of my existence
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All I want is my Dragon Eevee evolution. Pokemon can fuck off after that.
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The only way for pokemon to redeem itself is to get rid of special event and to make all pokemon available to catch in one and only game.
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>>316597261
>he keeps posting again
>without porn

goddamnit anon stop wasting post counts
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>>316597042
Anon, the whole point of playing Pokemon was entirely about battling and trading with others since DAY ONE. If you think this is optional to the experience, why bother playing it?
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>>316597236
>>316597045
>>316596024
>toddlers getting destroyed.
http://nintendoeverything.com/youkai-watch-2-pokemon-omega-rubyalpha-sapphire-lead-holiday-sales-in-japan/

>NO THAT WAS LAST YEAR THOUGH THAT DOESN'T COUNT REPAIR MY SAVAGED BUTTHOLE
:^)
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>>316589172
gen 5 has some legitimately 10/10 designs
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>>316597261
I dunno why but this is the most ironic thing I've seen.

>complains about discksucking a game because "Nintendo" did it, even though it's mostly The Pokemon Company
>proceeds to do exactly the same thing, which IS a game that Nintendo pushed
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>>316597541
I meant gen 6,but 5 has some really good ones as well
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>>316597042
>>YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO LIKE THE SINGLE PLAYER, THE SINGLE PLAYER IS TRASH I ONLY PLAY IT FOR THE MULTIPLAYER IN WHAT FEW GAMES DADDY NINTENDO LETS ME PLAY ANYMORE
>>THE ONLY FUN IN THE GAME IS TO JERK OFF WITH PEOPLE ONLINE IN MY TURN-BASED JRPG

Barely to no one ever that said

>>316597138
And what is your source that Yokai is still outselling Pokemon, at least Yokai Watch 3 or something? You don't even know if future Yokai Watch will be as much successful and 2, and again people are saying the game is losing steam.

>>316597261
See >>316593761

>>316597479
I really want the Battle frontier back.

>>316597520
>Youkai Watch 2 (2.447 million units) and Pokemon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire (2.591 million units)

Thanks for destroying your own argument.
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>>316597520
>2.447 millions is bigger than 2.591 millions
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>>316597503
>Anon, the whole point of playing Pokemon was entirely about battling and trading with others since DAY ONE.

Anon, the whole point of pokemon is that you had a great world with a new take on the JRPG formula, battling and trading others was part of that formula. It wasn't a bubble that the rest didn't exist in.

Now that the rest is mediocre trash that you don't even want to talk about. Why the fuck are you playing it, then?

If you just want to trade and battle with others. There are countless games that let you do exactly that and do it better. The only thing Pokemon had over the other games was the adventure aspect of it. Do you want to play that fucking part again? I don't. It's shit.
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>>316597503
If that's the case why not just play exclusively on pokemon showdown? The single player needs to be at least decent to make the game worth purchasing.
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>>316597724
it may actually surprise you but people actually want to fight with the mons they raised
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I don't understand. There's people crying "rehashes" in this thread, but the actual fanbase doesn't want the formula to change. Aren't the lot of you fags against devs pandering to demographics outside of their core userbase?
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>>316597853
>forming an emotional attachment to pixels and bits of code
I do that too.
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>>316597616
>See (This post that got fucking wrecked because it listed things like animated sprites, EVs, and walking diagonally)

Fix your butthurt, you stupid kid.

I can go find literally any JRPG made in the last ten years and get 3/4ths of the things that post mentions. Most of it was Nintendo playing 'catch-up' to the industry years after it already left them behind.

Only proving to me that Pokefags are the most cancerous playerbase. A literal playerbase of autists who buy minor roster updates every year.
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>finished Claw Island
>still no porn post
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>>316597683
>Anon, the whole point of pokemon is that you had a great world with a new take on the JRPG formula

What is Dragon Quest V? Granted, it didn't leave Japan in its debut but Pokemon didn't start that shit.
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>>316597853
So you admit you play the single player and grind in it?

Why? What possible difference does it make playing the grind game in single player than just asking the computer to give you the pokemon?

Do you get hard over numbers?
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>>316597930
it's not really an attachment but more like people wanting to feel "official" about it
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I just hope super pokemon mystery dungeon wows me. I haven't played a single mystery dungeon yet so I hope it delivers.
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>>316588723
>yo-kai watch is the new hotness
You wish. Yo-kai watch is just a fad. Its impossible to recreate the success of the Pokemon series in this day and age
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>>316598047
Weird reasoning but I guess to each their own.
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>>316597616
>Thanks for destroying your own argument.

That's one game, you fat idiot. There's still Youkai Watch 1 sales going on.
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>>316598025
last I checked simulators aren't "official"

again, people like to think what they get is authentic too, and also the target audience don't play the simulator but fight with their friends
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>>316597924
>but the actual fanbase doesn't want the formula to change

The fucking furries in /vp/ don't want the formula to change, and the shit-tarded little kids who have invaded this thread don't want the formula to change.

Everyone else wants to do SOMETHING besides another rehash of the Red and Green formula. Everyone else don't derive their enjoyment from shaking their tiny dicks to people they can't even see or interact with in multiplayer.
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>>316597520
>>Youkai Watch 2 (2.447 million units) and Pokemon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire (2.591 million units)
Oh family
I didn't think it was possible to be so retarded
It's funny how the most smug shitposters are always genuinely retarded
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>>316598137
You do realize that going by that you have to include XY's sales too right?
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>>316589172

>genwun fag
>colored animals

10/10 bait
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>>316598287
>T-THAT WAS LAST YEAR THO

How does it feel getting fucking destroyed?
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>>316597936
>>See (This post that got fucking wrecked because it listed things like animated sprites, EVs, and walking diagonally)

Shitty arguments that I debunked sure wrecked me, woah...

>I can go find literally any JRPG made in the last ten years and get 3/4ths of the things that post mentions.

So games like Xenoblade has a "Fairy type", a "Special stat split", "Rotation battle"? What?

>Only proving to me that Pokefags are the most cancerous playerbase. A literal playerbase of autists who buy minor roster updates every year.

I'm sure the one that is butthurt here.

>>316598137
And X/Y exist as well a Yokai 1. What is your point?
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>>316598137
There's still XY sales going on too.
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>>316598287
>Youkai fags on Youkai watch
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>>316598137
You might acyually be retarded if you count previous games too, lets count XY then too, hell, lets count red, blue and yellow on virtual console once thats out
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>>316598452
this guy
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>>316598385
But anon, you're the one that said last year YW surpassed Pokemon...while people posted a link from last year showing that Pokemon surpassed it. You said yourself we can't count 2015 because it's not over yet.
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>>316598387
>Shitty arguments that I debunked sure wrecked me, woah...

Sorry kid, you're the fucking faggot that thinks walking diagonally is a major innovation. Sorry you're so stupid that you've never played another JRPG before.

>WOW THO, WOW

>So games like Xenoblade has a "Fairy type", a "Special stat split", "Rotation battle"? What?

They have "Type 1" and "Special type 2" and you can swap out for members in your party, yeah.
All Pokemon has done is take the same RPG mechanics that other games have been doing for years and put them in Pokemon. Too bad you've never played another game before and are too stupid to realize that.

I'm laughing about how retarded you sound coming to the realization that there are other games besides pokemon that exist.
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>>316598137
>There's still Youkai Watch 1 sales going on
Then you need to count XY too
>>316598385
you would know senpai, if you've noticed all the posts literally disproving everything you're saying
>reading comprehension
>implying I said anything about it being from last year
>being so desperate that you have to make information up to try and save face on an anonymous image board
also
>literally proving you're a retard
(2.591 million units) > (2.447 million units)
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>>316598596
>You said yourself we can't count 2015 because it's not over yet.

You can't, because it hasn't ended yet.
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>>316598282
Nah senpai. Most people wouldn't play pokemon if it wasn't the same. The biggest draw of it is getting to see new pokemon, attacks, and areas as you explore the world. How would you change it and not alienate the fanbase?
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>>316598692
>you would know senpai, if you've noticed all the posts literally disproving everything you're saying

>HEE HEE LITERALLY DISPROVING HERES MY CARTOON REACTION IMAGE

That's nice, but Youkai watch still outsold Pokemon in 2014.

YOU KNOW, THE YEAR THIS WAS POSTED IN?
http://gamerant.com/pokemon-sales-outsold-japan-2014/

What's funny is that you're so stupid that you don't realize that there are other sales besides YW2, Like maybe the cartoon, or the merchandising, or the everything that counts which Pokemon is secondary to.

Just because the rest of /v/ are being shitty retards that can't read the numbers and the stats, doesn't mean you have to be as well. Dumb cunt.
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>>316596818
i just like capturing. honestly i'd prefer if it was a more open world instead of having everything gated by gym progress so i could run around and catch and breed while ignoring most of the battling.
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>>316598917
YEAH, Because any normal person wouldn't want to buy what is essentially the same game over and over again. You're a normal person for wanting a little bit of change in the formula after twenty years.

Everyone who says "POKEMON DOESN'T NEED TO CHANGE AT ALL" is a hopeless nintendo fanboy. Literally the last person who should be forming arguments on the game.
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>>316598692
>>316598596
>>316598287

you guys are fucking retards. Those were just holiday sales.

I guess "reading" is a hard thing for pokemon faggots.
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>>316598909
>Yokai watch still outsold Pokemon in 2014
but family you just said that last year didn't matter
look
>>316598385
I know you're retarded but please just calm down
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Yokai Watch is casualized trash and if Pokemon were try to compete with it, it'd just be a matter of fart jokes and making the game play itself.
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>>316599182
You don't know how Greentext works, do you?

>T-THAT WAS LAST YEAR THO

That was making fun of you for being such a dumb queering piece of shit over "MUH 2014 SALES" even though Yokai Watch BTFO pokemon last year.

Have fun being destroyed.
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>>316599181
Please show us the current(as of November 2015) sales of both games, then.
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As some other anons have already said, Pokemon really hasn't changed over the years. Same shit, different game. If you played one, you played them all. My friends dropped the game but I keep buying every new iteration because I'm an autist. I get so bored playing them I have fap to pass the time. Now the only thing I find genuinely exciting anymore is hatching perfect shinies.
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>>316599182
nice facebook dog!
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>>316598909
>Like maybe the cartoon, or the merchandising, or the everything that counts which Pokemon is secondary to.
Do you have numbers for that? Do you have numbers for pokemon merchandise? And if you want to count things other tan mainline games, how about the mystery dungeon that recently came out?
You just keep digging that hole deeper, its not even baiting at this point, you just keep making a moron out of yourself
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