Let's talk about these games
Which has better gameplay?
Is disgaea weebshit?
>>316578332
Fuck off and kill yourself OP
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>>316578469
Yes, get over it.
Well obviously Senran Kagura has the best gameplay out of all three. No contest there. Also best fanservice.
Atelier has best story.
Nep has... funniest characters. I guess you can say it has best characters.
I love all three.
>>316578332
Atelier so far
>>316578636
>muh senran
literally phone tier animation + camera is worst in gaming.
Hope the pc release fix that nasty camera.
>>316578469
Who gives a fuck if your game is an ebin buzzword or not
They are all the same game.
Atelier.
But Senran comes pretty close
Neptunia is dog shit and the $10 budget really does it more harm than good.
>>316578332
>Neptune even being an option
Come on now. Nobody plays it for the gameplay, it's pretty mediocre.
>>316578806
>camera is worst in gaming.
how new are you to gaming
>>316579000
I Do
Remove senran. Is shit.
>>316579071
Get better taste.
>>316579083
Remove your dick. Is useless.
>>316578963
>3rd row
I'm pretty sure Atelier has more similar tutorials than this one.
>>316579139
But U mom loves my dick.
>>316578963
Kill yourself you ignorant fuck
>>316579119
Maybe you just don't understand
Atelier.
>>316578963
>leaves out the crafting part from Atelier, that's basically 50% of the game if not more
>>316579310
>Recycled factory dungeon
When will it end?
>>316578332
Atelier > SK >>>> Nep
>>316579427
U and noire
>>316579419
>They differ in one minigame
So you agree that otherwise they are identical?
>>316578332
SK and Neptunia have both canon-rapists in it.
Does Atelier include non-consensual strap-on dicking? No?
Then it's inferior.
ez math
>>316578469
Defiantly
>>316579615
>minigame
The crafting is the game you fucking ignorant faggot.
>>316578963
But Senran is NOTHING like that.
>>316579671
Then why do I see Atelier threads where people discuss the story, music and characters.
Why have I never seen an Atelier thread where people discuss the crafting?
Doesn't seem like a part people care about from my perspective.
>>316579745
Why do you fucking care you pathetic shitposting nigger? Do the world a favor and shoot yourself in the face.
>>316579285
>>316579419
>actually getting baited with this
Sasuga.
>>316579745
Because you never look at threads and the 10 minutes you spent googling for images to support your point that don't even support your point anyway is the extent of your experience with Atelier
>>316579814
Show me a thread where people discuss crafting.
Best everything out of all those is Atelier
but Neptunia is catching up
Senran has stagnated
>>316578963
>Atelier has better gameplay
>>316578332
Neptunia is the superior series that's why it's on PC for the master race.
>Superior story
>Superior characters
>Superior gameplay
Everything is better.
It even outsold Legend of Heroes because everyone knows it's so good.
Neptunia always wins baby.
>>316579745
The same reason you see bloodborne threads only discussing never ever or PC port, or project diva threads only discussing which vocaloid is the best.
>>316579851
Show me a video of you killing yourself
>>316579869
>Senran has stagnated
I agree.
The asses on the 3d-model in EV are exactly as flat as they were in Burst.
You'd think the most powerful console this generation would have the capabilities to render them thick and jiggly.
>>316579427
It already did
>>316580042
They do jiggle.
Atelier > Senran >>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elder Scrolls > Neptunia
SK
>>316579638
We aren't told exactly how Astrid molests Rorona, or Tiffany molested Esty.
>>316578332
>Senran
Gets boring and repetitive, it's not the games fault it's the genre because the same happened when they did a Nep game with similiar gameplay
>Atelier
Ok characters, story is hit or miss but the gameplay itself isn't that great, it's biggest adventage is the crafting system
>Nep
Again, ok characters, hit or miss story, the only difference is that they keep throwing something new each game to make the gameplay itself better, it works for the most part. Nep's strong part is that it covers multiple genres
Bottom line: like what you like, post cute girls from your favorite and stop shitposting
What method do people use to time the Ether Wheel in Mana Khemia? I went with stamping my foot to the rhythm of the wheel, as if I were trying to keep the beat to a piece of music.
>>316579638
Totori was raped by Melvia.
>>316580205
>atelierfags still delusional
It's not even funny anymore, just pathetic
>>316580661
Slit your wrists shitposter
>>316578332
>dat atelier logo
too lazy to find a real one OP?
>>316580717
Look who's talking
>needs to bring up shit and elder scrolls in comparision of weeb games
>>316580205
>tfw still no Neptunia-mod for Skyrim
>>316580904
Once again. Slit your wrists and kill yourself you pathetic waste of air.
What sort of end-game equipment do people use in Atelier Shallie? (item attributes, I mean)
It took me too long to realize the advantages of having an auto-triggered Elixir with buffing attributes.
>>316578332
Played all 3 and It's hard to compare Senrans to other two.
Between Neptunia and Atelier, I think I like Atelier's gameplay better.
Still, I prefer Senrans to the other two, but that's because I'm more of an beat-them-up type of games than RPGs.
>>316580959
edgy, but not clever
>>316578735
I actually find titninjas to be better characters than neps. Haven't played enough Atelier to judge the story yet, but it seems most serious and best so far.
Same as you, I enjoy all 3 series, but I like SK the best.
Give me the best games of each series and I shall judge the games and maybe your anonymous taste too while I'm at it.
>>316581385
Nah fuck off.
>>316581385
Because we really give a shit about your opinions right?
>>316581385
Estival Versus, Shallie, VII
>>316581385
estivel versus, rorona, the action game
>>316581385
The first five Atelier games are only available in Japanese. Do you read Japanese, anon?
>>316579419
Can I save this Sheev?
>>316581385
Estill versus, iris 2, VII
>>316581385
I will be eagerly awaiting your opinion weeks from now Anonymous-sama! It's very important to me.
>>316581385
Does this judgement involve actually playing the games?
>>316581728
>implying
>>316581728
I don't think we've played any of these
>>316581728
>/v/
>playing video games
>>316581934
Maybe you didn't, I've played all 3 series
>>316580625
When do I get a turn
>>316582253
get plats on all arland games Vitsa versions for secret ending
>>316582346
Atelier is too tame for that.
On the other hand, the DLC for Ar Tonelico Qoga has a bit where you can "hug" Ar Ru in 3D.
Ateliers > Senrans > Nepus
>>316581385
Sophie, estille versus, vii
>>316584643
>Sophie
that's not even out
Atelier is the comfiest shit I've ever played.
>>316584682
That's what you think
SK > Nep > Atelier
Atelier isn't really about the combat, but rather the crafting and character interactions. Ateliers are probably the most enjoyable games out of those 3 but the gameplay definetly isn't its strong point.
>>316579869
>saying that SK has stagnated while Nep has improved
What are you on? Senran Kagura improves with every single release, consistantly. The games have changed MASSIVELY between releases. Burst was a sidescrolling 2.5D action game with a shitty framerate. SK2 fixed the framerate, added the tag system, gave us huge boss battles, and so on. SV changed the game completely into a much bigger-scale full-3D character action game with much better controls and a much faster-paced kind of fighting. EV is sufficiently different from SV, and has gotten a ton of free add-on content and (at least for a while) got consistently patched with additional things (like those robots you can get in in some of the levels, which is pretty neat).
Nep has had the same fucking gameplay for THREE games now. The best changes that I can even think of during that time are what RB3 did with ranged attacks and how RB2 gave you the extra party member. Nothing else changed very much. It's a decent formula for gameplay, but damn if it isn't getting old really fast.
>>316580042
that is disappointing, but the EV butts are a little bigger than SV. Ayame has a big butt.
>>316584968
The crafting IS the gameplay. You can't just snap your fingers and put Veteran Skills on every weapon.
>>316586098
You still craft alot less than you do the fighting part in most of the games.
>>316580042
How are the EV models compared to SK2's? SK2's models gave the breasts some gravity that they did not have in SV and Burst, did this carry over to EV?
Senran Kagura is a shoddily-made, barebones brawler
Neptunia is a shoddily-made, barebones JRPG.
Most Atelier titles are actually very polished gameplay-wise and have a well-defined, if niche, design direction and gameplay focus.
Atelier wins.
>>316585441
Nep rebirths are just V ports tho
>>316586280
That will carry you throughout the main game but not post game.
>>316586393
EV models are more like the SV ones than DC ones.
Which is kinda sad, because the design of the DC models are simply superior, it´s just held back by this god awful hardware.
>Tfw no mention of ar Tonelico
All alone here :(
>>316586767
Yeah but then you learn how to make an infinity meteor with gods slayer trait and have auto ressurect whenever your HP is below 50% and the game becomes a joke. 99% of the combat in this game is 'Press X until you can run up to the next enemy'. It's simply not as much fun as having something as flashy as senran kagura or something more active like neps. It's fun to get the hang out of the alchemy system and getting overpowered as fuck, but once you get over that the combat system is mostly mindless button mashing. I still think the ateliers are overall the most enjoyable out of those 3, it's just that the actual combat isn't as fun.
>>316585441
RB3 did change the EX system by making things reliant on your SP, added 5th attacks to combos,and the ability to search for item locations in the menu.
VII finally stops the rehashing, improves the shares system, and is all around a good game.
Sega hard girls adds a revamped mission system, non-menu based towns, and a fleshed out class system allowing for more customization.
>>316587015
Oh and you also need defense, speed, and HP traits on your armor so the bosses don't one-shot your entire party, and you need to be stacking damage traits on your inifinity meteor otherwise it won't out-dps their HP regen, and you also need to stack cost+ traits on ingredients to even put multiple good traits on one item. Otherwise you can not do these things and bring in buffing/debuffing items and pinwheel them, then whittling them to do death in a long battle.
And look at that, actual gameplay.
>>316587480
Or you build that accessory that has a very high chance of letting your survive with 1 HP and use 3 alchemists to have your whole party healed and revived when one of them survives. As I said, once you learn how to use the alchemy system you're pretty much done with the game because you're supposed to become an unstoppable death machine, throwing nukes and being basically immortal.
How much of an improvement is the Dusk trilogy of Atelier games over the Arland trilogy?
I'm just wondering if it would feel weird going back to play the Arland games if I play Ayesha first.
>>316587983
They are shit, a huge step back.
>>316587765
And you still won't out-dps their health regen unless you have really good weapons or infinity meteor with stacked top tier traits.
But you're right, after you've learned the alchemy system thoroughly, ie you mastered the gameplay mechanics fully, you're an unstoppable wall of death. Who would've thought this applied to video games?
>>316587015
Nep combat is literally the worst, most generic JRPG combat. I really want to like the game, but holy shit it sucks.
>>316587983
some complaints are that Esca & Logy's time management is too lax leaving you with nothing to do for a while between events and that Shallie threw away time management all together. Sophie is bringing back time management due to complaints about Shallie.
>>316588113
You know, just because you say the same thing over and over doesn't make it true.
>>316588346
yes it does, that's how memes are started.
Atelier games can be genuinely fun, Neptunia games have a solid battle system but no encounter design making the whole thing worthless, Senran games are just fucking garbage.
SK is fucking shit made by a cancerous faggot. Don't lump them together with Atelier you goddamn cocksuckers.
>>316586871
I'm with you, same with Mana Khemia. The PS2 Atelier and Ar Tonelico games, along with MK are the highlight of my collection and it still upsets me I'll never get to experience them for the first time again.
