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Does Resident evil 4 have any flaws?
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Does Resident evil 4 have any flaws?
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The island.
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>>316578187
inb4 someone says it caused 5 + 6 to get made
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>>316578187
I never found out if they were going to bingo or not
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The latter portions of the game aren't as good as the first parts.
The regenerators are only scary until you realize you can blindly spray with the TMP or shotgun and still hit the weak spots easily.
Very overpowered melee trivializes most enemies once you get the hang of it.
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it caused 5 + 6 to get made
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>too many cutscenes
>QTE
>krauser fight
>that shit last fight
only shit i remember
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The island/lab area sucks ass like the labs in every RE game.
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QTE's in cutscenes is a big flaw in my book. There's also plenty of parts that are really underwhelming or annoying, but I wouldn't really call them flaws. Like the approach to the prison or the truck driving section. Bosses are kinda shitty too, especially the last one.
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>>316578187
ditched the horror atmosphere for gimmicky action and QTE crapfest
couldn't get rid of the awful tank controls even if it went full action
scenery is uninteresting as hell
only first parts of the game are somewhat interesting
you can melee everything to death if you want to with minimal effort
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Can't move while aiming.
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>>316578580
>couldn't get rid of the awful tank controls even if it went full action

No, fuck you. It would be an extremely generic third person shooter if there was no clunkiness to the controls. The fact that your vision is limited, the fact that you have to stand still when shooting and the fact that turning is very slow all adds to the tension of the game that doesn't exist in any other more generic third person shooter.
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>>316578580
>Resident Evil
>Horror atmosphere

The series was allways campy as fuck. RE4 didn't change anything.
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On the ps3 version, it's hard as hell to see the laser sight.
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>>316578187
obtaining money to buy new equipment is way too easy. There is literally no challenge. Just pick whatever weapons you want. Might as well make them free.
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>tfw if you listen closely you can hear the sound of RE4 becoming /v/core
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>>316578494
>too many cut scenes

just stop.
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The ending was terrible
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>Inconsistent vision between zones
>Inconsistent middle-tier weapons with some being really good and others a waste
>Plot devices that should be avoidable by gameplay on repeat plays but you're forced into
>Poor plagas variety
>Mercenaries having some characters dependent on their context-sensitive OHKO to score high
>Can be run through in an hour on repeat plays
>Too easy to memorize what you need and what to do
>The difficulty changes based on replays take too many runs to become widespread and is too subtle until 5 or 6 runs

Still 9/10 overall, just been over it so many times these things are obvious to me.
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>>316578290
Didn't play 6 but 5 is an excellent game with a friend. Even playing solo it has more level and enemy variety than 4, and much more interesting bosses and characters.
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>>316580274
Just kill yourself
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>>316580347
choke on my fuck, nostalgiafag.
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>>316578278
The island only looks bad when compared to the castle. There's literally nothing wrong with it.
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>>316580274
5 is fine alone if you give the AI one weapon type and never use that one yourself. They aren't a burden when they have their own ammo and machine guns have the conserve command which makes their aim precise along with not wasting anything.
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>>316580383
>choke on my fuck

fucking underage
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>>316578187
You can't keep Leon's jacket.
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>>316582347
Could have at least been a NG+ thing.
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>>316578937
go "play" mgs4 if you enjoy watching cutscenes faggot
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>>316578187
The island section isn't as good as the village and castle -sections.
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>QTEs
>escort mission
>no horror
>brainless puzzles

there you go
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>>316578187

The gunplay was pretty weak.
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>>316583097
The fucking gunplay is weak? You're weak.
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QTE's and instakills are a bit bullshit.

Im also not too great a fan of reactive difficulty.
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>>316578873
its the upgrades that are the real cost sinks.
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Why are they there
What do they add to the game
Why
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>>316583651
tension. It works somettimes, other times its bullshit. My wireless xbox controller sometimes doesnt pick up the inputs quick enough
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Yeah, it was everyone who thinks that the Riot Gun is better than the OG Shotgun or Striker.
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red9 + striker + Minelauncher + Broken Butterfly is the GOAT loadout.
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the controlls to do a 180 sometimes didnt work
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>>316583397
Reactive difficulty? I'm currently playing the game (I'm just after the double Gigante fight) and I haven't noticed anything like that.
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>>316584154
you get more drops if you suck. Means you never run out
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>>316583995
Every version I've played it has worked 100% of the time.
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>>316584182
Just like every game after Half Life 2.
What a shame.
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>>316583651
cheap and easy way to make the player feel tense. Works for the first time; becomes a total chore contiguous time thereafter.

I absolutely loathe quick time events now. Almost entirely thanks to capcom
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>>316584154
>>316584182
It's more than that, the more you play the more timing on some events changes.

My best example is always the freezer at the end, in which usually you can rewrite the card and leave before anything happens. After a while it'll lock much faster. A more common instance I noticed is the crane. Early plays it's totally possible to kill everyone with it without it being shut off, but it happens much sooner otherwise and you have to go kill them yourself.
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>>316578187

Plenty.

1. Ultra clunky tank controls that don't belong in an action game of this sort.
2. Can't run while shooting.
3. Oftentimes dumb as fuck AI
4. QTEs
5. Level design is trash compared to RE1/RE2
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>>316584154
You wont notice it until you've played so much you know how everything in the entire game usually goes.

So likely never.
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>>316585170
>Ultra clunky tank controls that don't belong in an action game of this sort.
What is survival horror?
Can't run while shooting.
What is survival horror?
>Oftentimes dumb as fuck AI
What game doesn't have?
>QTEs
Blame the nips
>Level design is trash compared to RE1/RE2
Again, totally different genre.
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Sliding tile puzzle
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>>316586226
>>Ultra clunky tank controls that don't belong in an action game of this sort.
>What is survival horror?
>Can't run while shooting.
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>What is survival horror?
>>Oftentimes dumb as fuck AI
>What game doesn't have?
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>>QTEs
>Blame the nips
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>>Level design is trash compared to RE1/RE2
>Again, totally different genre.
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>>316586374
Easiest slider ever by far. If you didn't figure out the circle pattern by your second play you didn't even try.
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>>316586461
I have PTSD flashbacks whenever I see them thanks to Lufia.
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>>316586404

Exactly this. Excellently said, refuted every point using logic and candor. I wholeheartedly agree.

Also the tank controls are total shit, all the explanations for them doesn't excuse the fact that it just feels awful.
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>>316586404
Ok, you won.

But only this time.
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Leon throws grenades like a total pansy infant.

No one can deny this. He throws worse than a girl somehow. It makes him look like an even bigger fag than his haircut.

That's a huge flaw when you want your protag to seem like an unstoppable badass.

Faggot hair and a faggot throwing arm for weapons.

Also, the mine thrower's novelty wears off in about two thirds of a femtosecond and is a total waste of time to both purchase, and keep in your case.

Killer 7 is trash in comparison to Butterfly. This isn't even up for a debate and it's not a "taste" or "style" thing. It's a 100% inferior weapon and there is no legitimate, actually sound reason to ever purchase the Killer 7.

The annoying monk chanting.
The annoying islander chanting/gibberish/sound effects.

Mercenary balance is a joke.

RE4 is not perfect. It's one of the best games I've ever played, but it sure as hell isn't perfect.
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>>316586519
You do know the one in RE4 can be done in about four seconds though, right?
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>>316578187
Yes, still the only good Resident Evil game though.
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MATALO

AHI ESTA
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It killed the franchise
make that the genre
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>>316583651
To give your fat ass some exercise.
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>>316578187
LEEEEEON


HEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
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>>316578494
>too many cutscenes
Lolwut? Fag.

>QTE
Done right, unlike 6.

>Krauser
Git gud.
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>>316586850
That one in the back left seems pissed off that his friend still has his face.
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>>316583782
Handgun > all else
Riot Gun > all else
Bolt Action > Auto
Butterfly > all else
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>>316586873
>It killed the franchise
Every thread.

Every fucking thread.
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>>316578187

The HD version runs in slow-motion on my toaster even using the classic textures/30 fps mode.
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>>316586913
>too many cutscenes
Lolwut? Fag.
Snibbity-snap
>QTE
Done right, unlike 6.
Boogity-boo
>Krauser
Git gud.
Here's your (you)
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>>316586975
50%
Apply yourself.
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>>316586979
Give me one good non remake RE like game that came out after it
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>>316586993
>that fucking lava room bossifght
did they even test it?
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>>316580553
>machine guns have the conserve command which makes their aim precise along with not wasting anything.

That's not really true, there's a massive difference in AI behaviour depending on whether it's set to Aggressive or Defensive.
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>>316587035
I bet you use the TMP and Red9 you fucking casual
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>>316587043
Why should I? What does that have to do with RE4?
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>>316586850
>that one room in castle where 7-8 dudes just bumrush you in a tiny ass room

never WOOOO'D so hard in my life
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lost the art of Leon and Ahley on the motorcycle thats always posted in these thread

you know the one
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Quick question, what are the controls for RE4 like on the PC version?

What keyboard buttons do what?

I love the game but wish there is a better way of mapping the controls.

How is it on PC?
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>>316587043
RE5
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This is a fucking awful game for shit eating retards.

If you don't want to waste money NEVER trust /v/. /v/ is always wrong and wants to trick you into playing their shit games.
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>>316587312
Hello, reddit.
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>>316586894
FFFfffffff thanks now it's stuck in my head.
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>>316587240
Use a PS3 controller
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>>316587089
Frankly I forgot what the modes were called, but when I played Sheva was a great shot and barely used any ammo on defensive. She was a complete non-issue.

>>316587128
The only guns you need are the Red 9 and BAR. The rest is grenades. Riot Gun is retarded and a waste.
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>>316587312
>Gave into the hype
>Played Undertale
>It's shit
You're right.
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I consider RE4 to be 9/10 but I think the Village had the most polish, then it gradually lessened as the game went on.

I was honestly underwhelmed with the final chapter, after all the pulse-pounding shit that game put me through
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>>316587128

I use these because they're fun. I played UT/CS for the "skill" accomplishments.
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>>316578187
It's too good.
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>>316587415
>Undertale
>Shit
nah.
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>>316587424
It transformed from an amazing survival horror game to an amazing third-person shooter game.
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>>316580392
fuck those miniguns guys
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>>316587528
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Castle > Village >>> Island
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LITTLE ROUGH, DON'T YOU THINK
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>>316587605
Village = Castle > Early Island > Post-Krauser Island
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>>316587415
>not being able to detect shit
Bet you bought Five Nights at Freddies and Minecraft.

Pro top, if its indie, and nobody appeared to give a shit out the art, its a shit game.
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>>316578278
I thought the island was shit until the sequence where you get backed up by the helicopter guy
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>>316587676
>I'm a faggot who has never heard of Lisa or Cave Story
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>>316587240
The mb+m controls are pretty bad.
Aiming is fine with a mouse, but i kept trying to control the camera with the mouse, but that's not how the game works and i just couldn't break myself of the habit.
The inventory management fucking sucks, you have to use the arrow keys along with the insert and delete buttons to rotate your shit, rather than drag and drop with the god-damned mouse.

I got way too frustrated with the kb+m controls and just used a 360 pad.
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>>316578187

The Wii version is too easy.

That's about it.
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>>316587797
cave story was free, and lisa was shit.

Add "costs money" to my definition.
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>>316587386
>Frankly I forgot what the modes were called, but when I played Sheva was a great shot and barely used any ammo on defensive. She was a complete non-issue.

That's exactly how she behaves when set to Defensive, including switching to weakest weapons (if she has any other). She will, however, absolutely unload everything into enemies who are too close, even if they're lying on the ground, making it a pain in the ass if you want to knife them to conserve ammo.

If you put her into Aggressive mode and she'll use her powerful weapons frequently, scavenge around for pickups and in general be more independent. Another thing is that AI partner won't shoot at a target you're currently aiming at (though I don't know if it's exclusive to Defensive mode or shared between them), in order to not fuck up your precision shots that are a prerequisite for a melee move, and 100% QTE success rate.

Ironically, despite what people post, I found that on Defensive mode Sheva works best with a Pistol or the BAR.
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>>316587907
If a game has
>good graphics
and
>costs money
It must be good.

Wow, whens your book on game design coming out?
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>>316578187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru5TetFQZBo
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>>316586691
>Leon throws grenades like a total pansy infant.

On the other hand, he grapples with Krauser like a boss.
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>>316587907
I don't even have a reply for you. That's some next-level shitposting
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>>316588014
He said the opposite of "if it costs money it must be good".
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>>316587937
I picked the machine gun because ammo was extremely abundant when I wasn't using any myself and made the issue you mentioned irrelevant.

Really, separating ammo types is probably all you need.
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>>316588014
didnt say that.

I said an indie game with shit visuals that costs money can easily be identified as trash.
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>>316588193
>>316588141
Sorry, my mistake.

Still, he's wrong. Undertale costs money (if you don't pirate) but it's still a great game.
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whole game after you meet ashley
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>>316588302
no. Your wrong. Its not a good game and this can freely be detected.

Some people think Fez, for example, is a good game. But they are wrong. Its a really useful rule that will save you time and money for years to come.
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>>316588078
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>>316588524
How can I be wrong, When I am right and you are wrong?

Checkmate.
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>>316588078
SIR?
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>>316588078
Better ver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VSiCcpA0mg
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>>316587542
>RE4
>survival horror game in any way shape or form
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>>316588774
>reading comprehension
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>>316578187
>escort mission
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>>316578187
The camera it's shit and the aiming, I really want to like it but these two things for some reason are causing me nausea
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>>316588849

You need to play the game with a controller.
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>>316582498
dude, you can skip literally every cut scene and none of them are longer than two minutes.
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>>316578187
Does anybody know some good RE4 secrets? Like shooting the church bell from outside spawns enemies.
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>>316588774
That's what he meant dumbass.
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>>316578580
>horror atmosphere
Stopped reading there.
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>>316588817

Your statement lacked context, state that the series turned from SH to TPS next time. A prevailing opinion is that RE4 starts out as a tension-filled SH into a relatively generic third-person shooter about midway through despite the fact that it's just a TPS the entire way.

>>316589260

Quit dickriding.
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>>316589217
see
>>316584975
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NO, THAT WASN'T MEANT TO HAPPEN
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As a huge fan of the game, the final boss fight.

The island as a whole drops in quality compared to the rest of the game but it has very good moments, namely the intro area, the regenerators, the krauser fight and the helicopter scene.

The final boss fight has no real build up for what was a really fucking cool villain. It was the perfect big bad until we actually got to deal with him. There's a bit of back and forth throughout the island and bam, go up that elevator and kill him.

Salazar had great buildup because you felt like you were getting closer every chapter. The final chase and then the giant puppet robot segment followed by the ascension of the tower made for a great "it's fucking showtime" feeling. Saddler didn't have any of this while being cooler as a character. It's a shame really.

I also wish we fought him in a more gothic/royal/castle environment than this oil rig shit we got. It just didn't fit the whole thing.
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>>316589384
OOOOOON
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Ashley is retarded as fuck
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Sir?
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>>316589217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVf7b7t9kZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiNZ35i--_Q
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>>316586932
you know this is a mask right? that guy isn't a skeleton with a helmet.
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>>316587240
it is a little bit of an obstacle when doing inventory related shit but otherwise it was better than the gamecube and worse than the wii.

Wii controls were the fucking shit.
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>>316589425
The regenerators are legitimately the most terrifying monsters in the game
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>>316587312
why do you do this? Have you even played it? What's the point? Can't you just stop doing this? What do you gain?
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I just started a new game on professionell yesterday since I got it for cheap.
Is it just me or do the controls make the game much more easier? Maybe I'm overrating it, but I remember good aiming to take much longer on the PS2 version.
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>>316589560
How do you know? They can't spawn plagas from it, so there might not be a head there at all.

Either way, it's a joke.
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>>316589689
the double chainsaw hulk mode salvadors are pretty fucking scary too. I was guenuinely scared the first time I encountered them. Wish they'd appear on the island even though it wouldn't make much sense.
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>>316586850
how does that guy in the middle see anything?

also how do you kill that red guy in the machine gun room in the castle? Last time he ran away on the long balcony and I kept nailing him with rifle shots over and over and he would get back up every time.
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>>316589689
Funny how Iron Maidens weren't as threatening for some reason. Not fleshy enough maybe.
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Leon's hair is kind of gay.
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>>316589965
their face just looks goofy

vanilla regenerators just look straight up evil with that wide mouth and glowing eyes
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>>316587729
RIP Mike. Only the dead can know peace from this resident evil.
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