so telll me /v/ why do you like it ? this game isn't even that good,it's slow,it has literally no story and you can't even aim properly, i'm really starting to think that you don't actually like this game,you only like it because it's a "hystorical game" so you MUST like it because everybody else does
>>316508316
you cracked the code
Most people here are Brutal DOOM babbies
They think thats how DOOM originally was
>>316508316
Literally Millennials: The Post
Yes because none of u were alive and playing games back when Doom 1 and 2 came out. That was some other race of beings that died off right before your special snowflake ass was born.
>>316508316
I know this is b7 but
I'm not sure how to describe it but the levels are like games themselves. They vary massively and feel very different. Many make you want to play them again and again, get better and faster, find secrets etc.
I dunno, but DOOM is fucking amazing and no other game can beat it.
>>316508316
>it's slow,
it's simple
it's fun
no bullshit just gameplay
>>316509640
>cutscenes that are literally walls of text
Doom is a modernized piece of shit.
Uninstall life please
>>316509242
You do realize most millennials were born when doom came out? Quit shitposting you nigger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBW_R61WGYU
>>316508316
Lots of levels are fun, varied mazes.
The game-play is no-nonsense. Rocket launchers, shotguns, chainsaws, good stuff.
Turn on auto-run and speed around in diagonals. Its satisfying.
Can't aim? Put the thing you want to hit in the middle of the picture box and click.
The story is an excuse for the gameplay, which was practically brand new and still tight now.
Tons of good mods.
You are enormously mentally damaged.
>>316508316
OP is such a huge faggot
>>316511241
>>316511079
My note on the mods scene massively expanded.
That's like 4 sequel's worth of content greater in quality than huge AAA dev teams could make today. And it's all free.
>>316511463
The three most popular video games right now all started as mods.
So yeah people who shit on mods are pretty retarded.
>>316511616
I can only think DotA, Counter-Strike and...?
I must be dumb, can't think of the third right now.
>>316511767
LoL, it's based on DotA after all.
>>316508316
>It's slow
Stopped reading right there
>>316508316
Well it seems like this slating has petered out.
Must have just been bait after all.
(Insert popular game here) is really overrated.
Can I get my replies now?
>>316511767
team fortress was originally a quake mod
all the moba shit stems from dota
Doom fans get triggered super easily. They fall for the simplest bait and if anyone even so much as implies that they've played Brutal Doom and not reacted with complete anathema that they've single handedly ruined shooters.
>>316512298
Literally every single bait thread on /v/ gets replies.
>>316512298
I TRIGGERED YOUR MOM SUPER EASILY
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
>>316509460
>>316512001
>this is what Brutal DOOM babbies believe
https://youtu.be/jP2jI0BVG0w
>game doesn't even have rpg-elements
fucking nostalgia fags, when will they learn?
Nah seriously, DOOM is great if you play for speed. 100% plays get boring fast though. Shit is so formulaic.
>>316512653
>walking
Okay. Now try toggling on run.
I despise Brutal Doom, who else is on the same boat?
>>316508316
>it's slow
Nigga did you even play the game?
>>316512653
>Not playing with mouse look on
>Not playing with always run on
It's like you don't want to go fast or something.
>>316512962
best mod for doom easily
>>316512912
Its designed at that speed, why do you think enemies are so slow and shoot slow projectiles?
>>316512962
I see Doom and Brutal Doom as two different games, but I like them both equally.
>>316512656
there is an rpg mod
there is even oblige a tool that randomly generates levels like one of those roguelite games
>>316513118
>he doesn't enable fast monsters
>>316513256
Do you realize that I was only joking about the rpg elements?
I actually can't stand RPG shit in action games. It never actually works, with the exception of Dark Messiah.
>>316508316
>Its slow
Hold down sprint forever and tell me a faster moving FPS besides maybe Tribes.
>No story
Not true because of those text walls even if its minimalist as all hell it works
>Can't even aim properly
Why do you need to? It would just make the game harder because of how faster later level/wads are?
Please kill yourself just because of the slow comment.
>>316513118
>Archviles
>Revenants
>Slow
Also how can it be designed at that speed but not the other? Sprint isn't some magically function that was added in under their noses its the speed the game is designed to run at too.
Doom is fucking great.
Blood is better, but can't be run like it's supposed to on modern computers, which is a shame.
>>316510228
and most built their first computers before they got their baby teeth.
>>316513805
They are slow, even the slowest enemy in Serious Sam is 10x faster than those
>>316514738
>Seriousfag
Almost as bad as Bloodfags.
>>316510228
Born, yeah, but when you are just born you can just start playing videogames. By the time they grow up they are playing some other shitty game.
>>316515571
I'm 19 and I love Doom. People born in the 80s are millennials too.
>>316516036
>blue bar
That better be Armor.
>>316508316
>Not playing with the BD mod
>>316516151
It's just a mockup family.. i dunno mate i want to make a doom fan game but im lazy mate get me a programmer and ill do it no doubt
>>316516036
>>316516326
DOOMGUY'S GLOVES AREN'T BLACK
>>316508316
heh
fucking kids
>it's slow
yeah, sure
play it on Ultra Violence, won't seem slow then
faggot
There's something about early 3D fps games that give me a headache if I play for more then 20 minutes. Especially Quake, I can't play it without feeling slightly nauseous.
>>316509195
Incorrect
Brutal Doom is Doom the way Doom was suppose to play.
>>316513943
it's funny how crouching breaks that game to the point where you can beat it on Extra Crispy; the games hardest difficulty and one you are supposed to beat in co-op.
Doom is the only FPS I actually like.
The enemies are creepy AS FUCK. I love that game.
>>316509242
You're a retard. Millennials are literally in their 30's right now, and many of them played DOOM.
>>316518053
Then you'd shit your pants playing Marathon or Ayy Lmao Isolation.
>>316518053
playing Doom 2 on XBLA on X1
almost done with beating it on UV, shit really makes you not gobble up all the health kits you see due to needing them later.
fucking CoD babbies needing their BS regening health
>>316508316
>it has literally no story
It does. Just because it's not 90% of the game like Mass Effect did it doesn't mean there's no story.
>>316517626
Bullshit.
BD is made by a psychopath white supremacist with a gore fetish. He's been banned from about 90% of the Doom community for acting like a total shithead.
His mod is also buggy as fuck.
Doom Enhanced did everything better. Including giving Barons green blood, which Mark somehow could not figure out how to do.
BD is not how Doom was "meant" to be no matter how much his fanboys defend it.
>>316519697
Did he like fuck your gf or something? Why so mad? You tell me what other mod I can play that allows me to enjoy all these great wads with.
Unless Doom Enhanced is close to how BD plays I'm going to stick with BD.
>>316520341
Not him but:
DemonSteele
Metroid Dreadnought
Push
Samsara
>>316508316
>no story
yea man tetris, worst game ever mirite? Did they even try?
>>316508316
If you stop thinking of Doom as a First Person Shooter and just think of it as an action game, you'll understand and enjoy it more.
Doom fans, which is better between Beautiful Doom and Doom Enhanced and why? I use BDoom but I may switch.
>>316520990
>Metroid Dreadnought
Holy fucking shit, this is awesome. Thanks for opening my eyes.
>>316521447
Smooth Doom.
>>316508316
>ITT Toddposting
Nice try Todd. Doom4 is shit and not-doom.
>>316512197
No, it stems from Aeon of Strife
>>316509195
>>316508316
>>316512962
I despise the super shotgun in vanilla doom2 because it's stupidly overpowered (3 shots for the price of 2) which alongside the massive amount of shotgun ammunition puts the game balance all out of whack.
>>316522205
>muh balance
fuck you nigger, its,not one of your garbage ass MOBAs you total fucking plebeian
>>316513118
Because monsters appear in large groups (especially in Doom 2/Final Doom) and in tight corridors (frequent in Doom 1).
>>316522205
The new enemies compensate for it, plus it's a high risk - high reward weapon since you need to be decently close.
>>316512653
>Imp throws slow-ass fireball from 50 feet away that takes 4 full seconds to reach the player
>Player dodges right when it's 20 feet away
>Player jumps back into the firing line just in time for it to hit
Jesus.
Doom was revolutionary for the time. It hasn't aged fantastically, no, but without it, videogames as we know them wouldn't be anywhere close to what we have now
>>316522883
It has aged fantastically. It plays well with WASD control schemes, it plays well with mouselook, it plays well in modern resolutions, it's extremely moddable. It's still as fun as ever.
If you said Wolf3D hadn't aged well, maybe you'd have an argument.
>>316522340
>hurr durr
There's no reason to use any other weapon 80% of the time because the SSG ammunition is sprayed all over the place and encounters are almost always perfect for it
>>316522576
>high reward weapon since you need to be decently close.
It's hardly a high reward weapon as you can outrun almost every projectile in the game and melee attacks can be juked until the end of time.
>>316508316
>actually good level design
>satisfying weaponry
>high moddability
>colourful and distinct enemy design
>fast momentum driven gameplay
Compare that to the fps of now
>>316522883
>videogames as we know them wouldn't be anywhere close to what we have now
I love Doom, and all other FPSs at the time were worse in every way, but video games would not have taken a drastically different course without Doom.
>>316523440
I'm switching between FO4 threads and this one and for a moment your post sure looked interesting.
>>316516606
Some kind of FoV issue? Maybe you're playing on a TV or a gigantic monitor from a fair distance away, instead of plunked down 2 feet from a 14 inch CRT like they expected.
>>316523513
>but video games would not have taken a drastically different course without Doom.
They really would have anon.
e.g. the entire FPS genre subgenres wouldn't exist as they do today.
>>316523379
>It's hardly a high reward weapon as you can outrun almost every projectile in the game
The thing with Doom is that yes, most enemies are not threatening 1v1. You aren't fighting them 1v1 if the mapper knows his job though - they come from different angles etc. SSG was a great addition and makes lots of sense with the kinds of enemies D2 introduced, most of which take 2-3 shots from it.
And by high risk - high reward I mean stuff like running in the face of a revenant to try and two-hit it instead of just shooting RL from a distance.
I was quite young when I first played it. Looking back on it, I have absolutely no idea how I stomached the game. It was utterly terrifying for me. The levels were so fucking complex I spent hours on the later ones, and we're only talking the Mars campaign here. After defeating the cyberdemon boss things I was fucking traumatized.
To give you some perspective, a few years later I played half life and had to drop it because the first time you encounter the zombies I almost had a panic attack.
>>316523819
>And by high risk - high reward I mean stuff like running in the face of a revenant to try and two-hit it instead of just shooting RL from a distance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcf0aOwmiA
Never touched Doom. I should just download it free from the top left sites here:
>>316511079
Right? All I really want to do is play the original Doom and then maybe that Metroid themed version. But what is the difference between ZDoom and Chocolate Doom? What does it mean by new and old school? And then is Doom II worth playing? Is the third?
>>316523819
I'd still disagree in terms of Vanilla doom2. A lot of the newer enemies were a lot beefier but you rarely saw them in big numbers so it often was a case of 1v1 or 1v a small group.
As you say the only exceptions would probably be the revernant and archvile yet both were painfully underused in vanilla doom2 at which point you could have 500 rockets and innumerable plasma for both of them
>>316524361
D2 maps aren't the best, yes. D2 is still the best Doom for me because it introduced those great new monsters and SSG, and then mappers came and made amazing and wonderful things with those. Today, playing through D2 is more of learning history - D1 probably holds better as a standalone game. But D1 enemies aren't half as interesting overall as D2 ones, and there's a reason SSG is still remembered fondly. It kicks ass.
>>316523731
>the entire FPS genre subgenres wouldn't exist as they do today
What are your reasons for thinking this?
>>316512146
(You) fucking cunt. I hate (you). I hope (you) die in a fire (you) god damn degenerate. (You) should be ashamed of (you)rself.
>>316524147
Chocolate doom is an exact recreation of doom as it was played in 1993, but usable on modern computers. Zdoom has a variety of extras that makes it more usable to modern players, such as mouselook, higher resolutions, various graphical options, jump, crouch, etc. Most people use zdoom, only a minority use chocolate.
Jump breaks the game by allowing you to get to a lot of secrets too easily so a lot of people don't like it but it can be easily taken out.
Also make sure you pick up the best doom mod to go with it,http://hdoomguy.tumblr.com/post/117443743997/hdoom-techdemo-7-release
>>316512656
That picture pisses me off. It's like someone told her to do that exact thing with that exact expression and pose, and that ain't right.
>>316524808
>What are your reasons for thinking this?
Doom was incredibly popular and basically turned the FPS into an actual genre rather than the thing people had been messing around with for years before.
Anything that generates this degree of success leads to ramifactions further down the road.
Mario led to platformers being popular as hell.
Sonic led to everyone trying to make their own anthro animal mascot.
Doom led to FPS games being one of if not the biggest genre in the west.
Half Life led to said genre getting more story ingrained into them.
Even Minecraft led to massive amount of people fucking around significantly more with world building tools.
Fallout is a brilliant current example of this, it would more than likely not be the FPS/RPG hybrid it is today if it wasn't for the success of Doom in particular.
>>316525304
>Half Life led to said genre getting more story ingrained into them.
Um, System Shock? Unreal?
>>316524925
Alright, thanks. I'll make sure to try it out after I've actually finished the game. I need to worry about conquering hell before I unzip my dick.
>>316508316
I grew up with it. I still play it today with all the mods and wads that have released.
it is pure fun gameplay.
doom is not a true 3d game which is partly why aiming is like it is. Using a mouse was a kinda new thing when this game released also, which is why you dont even need much accuracy to play the game. If this bothers you, play it on a source port.
>>316525390
>System Shock? Unreal?
HL was significantly more popular than both. Just because games came out earlier with story telling in them doesn't mean they were the games that led to the massive change in storytelling we got.
Which is a shame in this case because the PDA trail of information you got in those games was a hell of a lot better than what we get now.
>>316525390
Both of which came out before HL and didn't have anywhere near as much impact, system shock in particular. Nobody fucking knows or cares about system shock 1, despite the innovations it offered.
It's not about what comes out first, it's about what the public takes notice of.
>>316525720
>>316525813
Exactly, FPS games were already incorporating a lot more story by that time and gaining popularity for it. HL's anomalously high popularity was irrelevant as the trend towards more popular story-filled FPSs was already well-underway. HL was just a product of that and maybe gave it an extra boost, but it was hardly responsible for the development or popularization of anything in particular on its own.
>>316508316
>Slow
Just find the button that makes you run
>No story
It has one, but not over your face because you're PLAYING A VIDEO GAME
>Cant aim properly
There's no verticle aim but you dont need it because you can still shoot enimies
>>316508316
>it's slow
you run faster than sonic the fucking hedgehog. what the fuck is wrong with you.
>>316516036
>not the super shotgun
disgusting
also that weapon model is distractedly large
>>316516326
I love normal mapping on flat graphics.
>>316523440
>actually good level design
The level design was usually fun for combat, but figuring how to get to the next part of the level was a pain in the ass in some of them.
>>316511079
>Internal Conflict
Fuck man that shit was the best. That and Shotgun Frenzy were 10/10 mods for pure fun. Too bad that it's impossible now to find a server with anyone playing them.
>>316511079
I heard some source ports had shit like aiming up and down, crossair, jump, crouch and upgraded visuals, if i dont want it can i turn it down?
>>316528785
zdoom has that. It's pretty horrific looking. That said, I like not having to lock on for aiming up and down.
>>316508316
>this game isn't even that good,it's slow
>it's slow
>slow
>slow
>slow
>>316529153
I just dont get why would they just the gameplay?
>>316529281
Things can be improved?
>>316528785
Yes.
>>316529281
Pretty sure they added things like that for shits and giggles, then modders started making levels that demanded the new features so they added more and things snowballed from there.
>>316525175
She's probably 13-14 and knew exactly what she was doing.
>>316529176
I guess the game wasn't the thing that was slow
>>316529375
>>316529456
And what if i want to play the game in the old way and i didnt need to jump,crouch and aim up or down?
>>316529621
Then use Chocolate Doom if you're looking for the '93 experience, or turn off mouselook, crouch and jump in ZDoom.
Any of you all play Unloved on Halloween? It's a really well made 'horror' mod.
A lot of times when people post stupid shit I hope it actually might be bait but the sad truth is most of the time its not.
>>316529621
Turn them off? zdoom makes that easy.
You should definitely turn off jump, since it breaks the game.
>>316519697
Ahh, those sweet terminus tears.
You are so fucking jelly.
