> Do you have a video game that needs promoting? Well, Conan O’Brien is your man. He’s quite good. The best, even.
> Conan’s late night talk show has a segment called “Clueless Gamer.” In it, he checks out new titles and cracks jokes. The segment is popular, racking up millions of views on YouTube and bringing many of the games featured to a wider audience. People who don’t watch Conan have seen the clips on YouTube.
What's with mainstream shows now fawning over video games? Conan, Colbert, Kimmel, Fallon, CNN, the BBC, even my local news channels all have daily or weekly video game segments. Are we finally accepted by society?
marketing
>kotaku shit
fuck off
>>316472283
Pretty sure Conan is on TBS
There's this thing called money that game companies have to throw around and try to "broaden" their "demographic" by using "personalities" to "shill"
Nobody actually cares about video games and it's largely seen as baby shit. This is like how WWE is showing up on ESPN every now and again. Nobody cares but the money is there. Why turn down money?
>>316472413
ESPN people threw a proper tantrum when they were forced to show videogames.
Has any of these segments on tv given a game a bad review?
>>316472461
Colin Cowherd complaining about e-sports was magical
>>316472461
And rightfully so. It's a stupid fad that people who watch espn don't care for.
>>316472491
no, because they aren't reviews
it's always "hey audience, i'm going to play [upcoming AAA title] even though i don't play video games very often, i'm so zany"
I hope not, we're fucked
Vidya is an over $ 91 billion dollar a year industry now. The war is over. We lost.
>>316472153
Conan promotional videos are kinda negative though, most other people just say the nicest things about the games, and even embrace the "gamer" audience, Conan just shit on them and his ex-fatty friend.
>>316472563
>videogames
>a fad
Is it the 80s again
The Conan segment is usually entertaining though. The idea is to put him into an environment that is very alien to him, which results in some hilarity. The point isn't necessarily that the environment is video games
>>316472153
>Are we finally accepted by society?
Yes, soon we shall undergo the same glorious metamorphosis that comics went through.
>>316472658
No, not vidya just esports.
The Dallas Cowboys alone, a single NFL team that hasn't won a super bowl in 20 years, is worth $4 billion dollars. All of esports is valued at a few hundred million dollars.
>>316472153
>Are we finally accepted by society?
Yes, though that's nothing you should be happy with because in order to do that, games are now made for normies and lack any sort of depth that a dedicated hobbyist would look for.
Unless you're part of the hivemind in which you care more about peer acceptance than actually having fun, in which case, keep droning on.
But seriously, riddle me this.
Why do people care about their hobby being acceptable or not? You dont have to look for random people's approval to play games, so stop trying, it's embarassing. Those people look like dogs wanting a pat in the head for no reason. Have some dignity and independence jesus fuck.
>>316472850
Just because esports is much smaller than regular sports doesn't mean it's worthless or a fad.
>>316472850
Give it time.
Esports prize pools are multiplying every year.
Competitive games have generally seen nothing but growth for over a decade now.
Meanwhile I heard stories about american football being on the decline.
>>316472153
Stop hating on based Conan you cunt.
You might hate shitaku all you want, but you have to be really naive not to realize clueless gamer is a sponsored show and is effectively advertisement.
>>316472850
You mean the thing that is already hosting bigger tournaments than several disciplines that have been considered "sports" for a century or more?
>b-b-but le eggball
Typical amerikek.
>slandering Conan for practices that are actually highly transparent
>Kotaku of all places
Loving every laugh.
>>316472972
NFL viewership and revenue is constantly increasing.
>>316473048
I thought you guys called it Handegg.
lmaoing @ grumpy nerds mad who think vidya was ever small, when they played Mario, Crash, Counter strike and Morrowind, all of which sold millions of copies
>>316473178
And e-sport viewership has literally just started 7 years ago, and already going in the millions mark for both viewers and prizes.
They fawned over movie stars and films coming out, but now video games are more profitable and bigger business.
>>316473178
Thats not much growth show the male side as well.
>>316473178
>female
good attempt tumblrina, but women do not count
back to your sjw circlejerk club
>>316473178
Woah, look at that 10% growth over 10 years!
Meanwhile, "e-sports" popularity has been doubling every year for 5 years now.
>>316472153
> finally accepted by society
except the nigga either makes fun of video games and the people who play the or he reads off a script advertising features of the games he plays(most blatant in his ubisoft videos)
>>316473367
And all the casuals that bought a Wii totally bought a WiiU, right?
The viewers are fickle as fuck. Wake me up when esports can get ~49 million people in attendance over the course of a season like college football. Until they can surpass amateur sports I won't pay attention.
>>316473720
>comparing the wii audience to those who watch esports
0/10
>>316473706
It's almost certainly not a script, it's his perception on what his mate manages to show him.
He can't see through systems like you can.
>>316472491
Not really, he doesn't play games. Its like your dad walking in and making fun of what your playing. Its funny.
>>316473367
>>316473578
He was pointing out a fact about the NFL, has nothing to do with esports you spergs
>>316473720
I like how you're implying that the average person tuning in to any mainstream sport is not a dumbfuck.
Brilliant post.
Kimmel did nothing wrong, fuck all these meme talk shows trying to fit in
I just want to be hated.
Please love me at the same time as well, ok?
>>316472153
>Are we finally accepted by society?
Have you seen Conan review games? He mocks the shit out of us every week.
>>316472153
No, people who love video games as much as others love books, movies, and music are not accepted by society. Video games are still for kids unless they're a le cinematic experience xD
>>316473178
>female
Now thats HILARIOUS.
Now some actual truth:
http://recode.net/2015/08/15/tvs-next-headache-football-is-flat/
Its not a big decline, but shits going down.
Conan is so based
>>316473720
/sp/ here. He's right. Michigan alone brings in more attendance money and viewership than esports in America.
No one will respect esports until they can even pose a challenge to college sports.
More like all the character an rough edges have been sanded off and that corporate approved "culture" is accepted by people desperate to have an identity. And hell, now you don't even need to play games.
Thats how I see it.
>>316473720
>spending +$300 is the same as just typing in twitch for free
I don't know what you consider an amateur sport but I'm pretty sure it's been surpassed already.
>>316473865
>flat
>decline
:/
>>316472153
Honestly, it's Pewdiepie.
Biggest channel on youtube by a fucking landslide and making lets plays a mainstream industry. Red pill is not easy to swallow anon, but the truth is truth.
>>316473963
wow sports posters are in fact the biggest shitposters on 4chan.
>>316473835
You do realize kimmel did the whole controversy thing because he knows it works, right? Infact, he did 4 videos in under a week and they all racked up massive views.
>anita sarkeesian's professional victimism hasn't taught you anything
I mean there's a reason every fucker is exploiting this industry It really is full of dumb kids.
Kimmel is easily the worst offender in pandering to the medium, at least shillan o'brien is upfront about his business.
>>316473950
>esports are so shitty they can't even get people to pay a few hundred dollars to watch them
Ahahhhahahhahahah
>>316472153
they're desparately trying to stay relevant in their dying medium.
>>316472153
Welcome to capitalism, a plague that destroys everything you love
>browsing kektaku
nigger what are you doing
>women's world cup brings in $500 million in revenue
>LoL championship brings in $10 million in revenue
>literally losing to women
lel
>>316473771
> his perception on what his mate manages to show
But that's the scripted part
>>316474407
The parts he shows him are chosen beforehand, probably by the publisher, but I think his reactions are candid.
>>316472153
I watched clueless gamer on Resident Evil 5 or 6. GOOD JOB! WELL DONE! GOOD JOB! GOOD JOB!
He was seriously having some fun, but one could see how shitty the game was.
Same with Skyrim and every other game. As a non-clueless gamer you actually get a more unbiased view on a game than everywhere else.
>>316474525
Nothing beats showing graphic Tomb Raider death scenes over and over to an unsuspecting audience.
>>316474525
>GOOD JOB! WELL DONE! GOOD JOB! GOOD JOB!
Thats how you play the games.
>>316472153
Don't know about the others but Fallon seems more like a videogame salesman
Conan on the other hand uses the games for comedic material which I think is a smarter way of going about things than "OOH AAH UNCHARTED"
>>316474496
The publishers don't get a say, conan is big, fallout probably didn't pay to have him do it, but smaller games pay him to say whatever he wants about them.
>>316474525
I hate how other than that, he gets the good versions of some of the shitty games. Its not his fault I know but its just so shameless on who did.
Conan did it first and did it amazingly.
>network tv has commerical in between shows
>shows are just marketing for movies/shows/books/music/plays and now even fucking video games
I don't get it. Talk shows are pure fucking shit and I don't get why anyone would see them.
>>316472972
there has been time.
The esposrts fad was big in the early 2000's and it died.
esports is based around commercial products that rapidly become dated.
>>316474068
>paying $300 to watch some amateurs run into each other
That's probably a part of American culture I will never understand
>>316474874
The esports of the 2000s was much smaller than the esports now.
>>316472534
He's still complaining. It's still magical.
Even did a segment on his show shitting on EVO.
>>316472153
What is it like to be underage anon?
>>316474879
>american "culture"
id probably be upset if clueless gamer wasnt actually pretty funny and entertaining
its also pretty funny how naive and innocent conan is leads to his usual spot on critisism of the game's he plays
>>316474812
>The publishers don't get a say,
Right man when that fat guy starts spouting buzzwords and marketing phrases it's all just a coincidence
>>316474496
Nah. I saw a vid of him being interviewed in a college of some sort and he said that the publishers just gave him a copy and he can do whatever he wants with the material.
This is a show from 1992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Yi8XmYBr4
>he thinks games being advertised in TV shows is a new thing
>>316475043
>>316474879
https://youtu.be/KkKDs02AyUQ?t=36
>>316475257
classic
Fallout 4 is so shit that even Conan couldn't force himself to like it during the video
It was easily the weakest episode of CG as well, even though it had astronomical production values if compared to the past ones.
>>316472153
>Kotaku
>Complaining about Conan marketing
>When they do it all the time with AAA games
Oh the irony.
>>316475373
Are you really this brainwashed by all the shitposting?
>>316475373
I thought Unity was his weakest.
I loved the Smash one
>>316475436
Oh look, a mad drone
>>316472153
>Kimmel
>that Markiplier interview
>that Mila Kunis World of Warcraft interview
yeah nah, that cunt is not capable of humour.
>>316472153
Its Conan. He's done this stuff for years.
>>316475535
>drone
Yep, you are another brainwashed by shitposting and memes retard.
I haven't even bought FO4, it isn't even my type of game.
>>316472153
>make fun of vidya for normies entertainment
>while pandering to those that play vidya themselves
It's perfect. Even if you have people that don't care for vidya or take it seriously it's still increasingly becoming a thing and they're adapting to cater to that audience.
>>316472153
it means we accept your money, not you
>>316472461
In my public speaking class this past week, I watched a speech on how video games should be considered a sport by atypical white guy who liftsso the generic stereotype couldn't be present. He even mentioned how all pro gamers aren't living in their parent's basement with double chins. He ended it with that stupid quote about how "gamers don't have one life; they have many." Pretty cringe overall though.
>>316475589
>I haven't even bought FO4, it isn't even my type of game.
Then why did you even bother quoting my FO4 post?
>>316472153
vidya is the new thing OP, which rally triggers me even anime is being invaded by normies,
>>316475758
Because you are an obvious shitposting faggot, just like the rest of the shitposting faggots that spend all day shitposting about the latest game release, which happens to be FO4.
>>316475793
I want underage people to leave
>>316472153
Youtube clips don't shift videogame sales that much.
>>316475613
You can probably thank Aaron Bleyaert for that balance. Conan has always loved making fun of nerds as a stereotype, and he probably would have continued to do it if he developed Clueless Gamer on his own. Aaron being someone who plays videogames on his own was likely the one who communicated that it'd be more popular if he didn't just shit on basement-dwelling virgins the whole thing.
The think I don't get it as yurop is, he constantly makes sex jokes and acts like what the regular tumblrina would call a misogynist shitlord, yet I don't see Kotaku and friends bashing him as a daily basis.
Is he really that big in america?
His video game shit is pretty cringey but also fuck Kotaku.
>>316475885
>That amount of salt
Ah, so you are a mad drone after all!
>>316476008
There's no point in shitting on Conan, he literally doesn't give a fuck. He's been a television comedian for like, 20 years and he knows he's not going anywhere.
I've seen people call him a gross misogynist in youtube comments and shit, but nobody ever bothers wasting real energy on attacking him because it won't bother him.
>>316476106
>you are a mad
Yes anon, I am mad. You won, congratulations! You have now achieved greatness in your life.
Keep spending all day every day shitposting about the latest game and posting epic memes. You are truly are living life to the full fitting in with all of the other shitposters, your parents must be proud.
I'm pretty sure the only guy that actually likes vidya is Fallon, the rest is just marketing
>>316472153
>Kotaku just now reporting on a series that's been popular for well over a year
BRAVO BASHCRAFT
>>316472153
Who fucking cares? We'll all just keep shitposting on /v/ regaurdless
>>316476626
Wasn't Fallon giggling like a little girl when he met Reggie for the first time?
>>316477257
but fallon is always giggling like a little girl
>>316476626
>>316477257
Reminder that Fallon accidentally passed up an opportunity to bone Nicole Kidman because he wanted to play vidya.
>>316477547
Sounds like he has his priorities straightened out.
Miss me?
>>316474734
Fallon is better at acting like a vidya salesman, but at the end of the day I bet that Conan moves more product.
>>316472774
They get banned from depicting any and all violent or sexual content?
>>316477729
>Joel will never impregnate your anus
Why even live
>>316477970
They did censor a Killing Joke reference because people thought it was rape related
They also didn't let a comic start because the cover was too sexy
Not even mad, because Conan is actually pretty funny. Even though his show is murder.
I still think the best possible vidya show would be someone sneaking in a camera while I, my bro and his war vet bud is playing castlevania.
>>316478239
Tell me about the veteran.
Why does he play the Castlevania?
>>316477729
>Vidya is serious business
>Cant have someone make fun of everything
>>316477914
That's because more people like Conan. Fallon may be better at acting like a videogame salesman but he just fucking sucks at acting in general. The guy always laughs at his own shitty jokes and always tries to be buddy buddy with everyone.
Conan just puts on that asshole act of his because that's what people really like these days.
>>316472153
conan really brings up the best questions at the best times. Videogame companies need a guy with exactly that kind of perspective to give an opinion about their games. You kinda forget how insulated you become with videogame logic until you see the absurdity and ridiculousness of the situation through somebody who might not even like videogames.
Conan's reviews and critical observations are pretty accurate though. His slenderman review is my favorite.
>>316479203
I'd prefer it if they didnt take away my absurdity and ridiculousness from my videogames.
>>316472153
>Are we finally accepted by society?
God you 12 year olds of /v/ are so fucking cringeworthy. Jesus Christ, kid.
remember when destructoid wrote about how they wanted to put an ice pick through justin bieber's head because he was on instead of bioshock 2?
>>316477729
>literally did nothing wrong
>all the cod and fifa gamers around me now hate this guy
The fuck is wrong with everyone?
>tfw conan's reviews are actually p.good and unbiased since he's not attached to a brand
>tfw joke vidya journalism is better than real vidya journalism
>>316472153
Holy fuck it's been a while since you could justifiably call them Slowtaku
>>316481687
This holy shit.
Its not even news it is just "this thing exist"
I wouldn't even be surprised if whoever wrote that actually posted it here to get some desperate response.
>>316472153
Video games are where the money is, you retard.
>>316472461
Why would people bitch about videogames being broadcast on Electronic Sports Network?
>>316472153
They always did this, not just for videogames. You think all their money comes from viewership?
>>316473178
>women
Completely irrelevant
>>316472153
He's showing all the stupid shit and bugs in those games though. Like in his Hitman video he runs around and doesnt get spotted and shit like that.
>>316472491
for like the first 5 instances of the segment he was more honest about when he wasn't having a good time and he usually gave scores that made no sense like "red out of 6 and a half"
when he started to do more popular triple-A games and get pre-release copies then he became noticeably more positive and actually give them scores that seemed positive (although still keeping the gag where it was a weird scale). One of his first reviews was minecraft and /v/ was incredibly hyped because it felt like Conan exposed the game as shit.
I told /v/ this was going to happen and they said I was full of shit.
I win.
>>316472153
>Are we finally accepted by society?
No. People still don't like you and won't fuck you.
>>316472563
This. I would guess that 95% of the people who watch ESPN don't give a shit about E-sports.
>>316478850
>>316481452
Wait what happened, I thought this dude was hilarious and he's vanished since Community ended
>>316477729
He was the only good part of VGX but I kinda don't want him to be a part of The Game Awards
>>316485148
Not really vanished he still does his E show/roles in some movies
>>316479047
>asshole act
Point to me when this wasnt funny.
>>316472153
>What's with mainstream shows now fawning over video games?
Could it possibly have something to do with what GamerGate opposed? Like, I don't know, propaganda from the jewish establishment in television, newspapers, finally slowly but surely carrying over to the game industry?
>>316485886
No. In fact it doesnt.
>>316474613
>Nothing beats showing graphic Tomb Raider death scenes over and over to an unsuspecting audience
i forgot about that, thanks for reminding me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCe8-1dbXZc&t=5m57s
>>316485945
>No. In fact it doesnt.
Sure it doesn't, goy. Sure it doesn't.
Conan's ratings are plummeting though, doesn't sound like much of a salesman.
>>316486115
I thought you faggots left after moot told you to fuck off with your legiun shit.
Is 8gag that dead?
>>316486003
>"I hate tombs"
>THEN DON'T BE A TOMB RAIDER
>>316472153
> Are we finally accepted by society?
It almost was..... until GG happened. Now the media is back to bullying gamers and making shit up about how we harass women.
>>316486256
So you would've rather there was no backlash against this ''sjw'' generation of gamers becoming the representatives of the gaming industry in the eyes of the wider public? You sound like one of those people completely incapable of understanding the principle of things and how just being accepted/something else isn't the important part, but it's the perception people have of what the gaming industry is that matters.
>>316472646
But Conan's funny and people like funny. Like how Yahtzee shits on 99% of games but people expect that and just watch him talk.
>>316486347
I'm right at home. The place that kicked your kind out.
>>316486420
>So you would've rather there was no backlash against this ''sjw'' generation of gamers becoming the representatives of the gaming industry in the eyes of the wider public?
That's not what was said at all, you goobergate mongoloid
Those video game reviews toonami used to do were cool as shit.
>>316486256
How is that a bad thing?
If this is stopping minecraft and fallout gamers from wearing video game shirts and never shutting up about being gamers then that might be the only good thing GG has ever done.
why is kotaku so slow?
it's mystifying
>>316486692
That's precisely what he said you reddit memester. He said we were about to be ''accepted by society'' until gamergate came along.
The problem with that is that we shouldn't want to be accepted by the society that currently is, nor should we want what the current gaming community is to be accepted by any society. Society as it currently is, is in the long-term hostile to gaming, and the gaming community of today, is also hostile to gaming in the long-term. Basically, just giving up and saying: ''Please accept ''us''!'' is giving up to powers that would drown gaming in nothing but political propaganda.
Fat jap kids playing starcraft for money is not a sport
>>316486420
> ''sjw'' generation of gamers
The "sjw generation of gamers" are just liars who don't actually play games like Anita. They just use it as a soapbox to play victim Olympics.
>>316487181
Doesn't matter if they are (they are), they hold several times more power than real gamers, because they are supported by the society this retard above me wanted to be accepted by. The same establishment that has completely corrupted the west in every way, is the one supporting these people in the gaming world.
>>316486727
>How is that a bad thing?
How is lying about gamers and bullying them a good thing? All the things they lie and claimed gamers did are mostly projection of all the things they themselves did to gamers. It's disgusting.
How about you stop replying to niGGers who desperately try to derail yet another thread?
>>316472153
Stanter: Well, there was something about mankind we loved.
Waldorf: I think it was their money.
DOHOHOHOHOHO
>>316487429
>How is lying about gamers and bullying them a good thing?
It stops "I am gamer" from being a fashion statement for hipsters with pink hair.
Devs could go back to being just people passionate about games and not opportunistic professional victims.
I would prefer gaming to be a niche. Would you really miss the huge budgets anon? What was the last big budget AAA game you liked?
>>316487429
Why do you care? What kind of faggot actually wants to be accepted by mainstream society?
You guys don't seem to realize that gaming is becoming such a huge phenomenon and popular thing for all generations that TV and everything else basically HAS to talk about it.
Everyone is happier since devs get the publicity, shows get to make fun content and get paid for it, people enjoy watching those videos and discover games through them.
It's not going to revert all of a sudden. Everyone is taking up games, be it on their IPad or on their consoles.
>>316484571
>I win
No one won
Except marketers
>>316487921
Apple's sales basically shows how much this is true for most people in society.
The products suck, are overpriced, confined to their own proprietary line of products and technicalities (e.g. the fucking wires that ou can't use for anything else)... Yet they still sell millions of them just because "everyone has one".
I honestly would give my life for google just because of how good they are at making technology and science move. I know they're not all good with the user data issue, but they don't fuck you over like apple does and they actually put out good products.
I like Conan and Colbert tbqh family
>>316472153
>we
fuck off normie. these shills only push AAA shit.
>>316472408
very funny
