ISOLATED THREAD
Also, does anyone know where I can read up on WoD Lore. I want to read all about mages, mummies, werewolves, and all that shit thats fucked up.
>>315710764
http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
right here friend
bumping with a qt and a reminder that gangrel are best clan
I can understand WoD threads on /tg/ since there is so much ground to cover, but VtMB threads are the purest form of hugbox autism. There is no point to them, there is not much content, everything has been done to death.
>link deb of the night radio comfyness page
>don't open it lel
>dinosaur in the museum
>malkavians are kewl, stop sign woow
etc etc you just reshuffle posts in each thread.
>>315711824
Well, there's a bit of news in recent weeks, so that's of note. Also, it's just after halloween, these threads are always active around this time of year
>>315711537
>tfw no Gangrel gf
>>315712005
I guess you're right, especially since there's bound to be announcement of VtMB 2 or something similar soon, perhaps even with Obsidian (ugh) helming it. But still, these are the most same-y threads on /v/. Kappa vampires.
>>315710764
Why smoke?
She doesn't even have functional gas exchange occurring in her alveoli.
>>315712263
I can agree on that, but they're still generally high quality. They're much better when there's a lot of lore discussion, the kind you won't get in /tg/ since most of them like nWoD more
>>315712027
>you're fucking her and then bam!
I got to thinking: which is more moral? Letting Heather be with you only to die later? Or protecting her by telling her off?
It depends on how strong her connection to you is. I'm not sure what the lore says on this, but she might not have much of a future if she stays hyper obsessed.
>>315712358
Humanity and it tricks kine into thinking you're human.
>>315713651
There are abandoned ghouls that hunt down thin blood vampires for their blood.
playing through this for the first time now
picked malk because she had the best titty physics
I'll probably not enjoy a second playthrough as much will I?
>>315713587
anon plsI want to pet her
>>315713903
malk first playthrough is really confusing. All to you though if you can do it
>>315713903
Malk has way too much meta knowledge.
>>315713897
sounds like she's fucked. Ah well she's extremely annoying anyways so I sent her on her way.
I know vampires don't need to eat or drink, but can they? Do they still have bodily fluids?
>>315713897
>>315715961
It was only one sip. I think she can return to normal life if you send her fuck off right away.
Later, yes, she is fucked, and also ruined her life already.
>>315716369
blood is the only liquid they have in them. i think they *can* eat and drink, but it doesn't sustain them, and like most physical sensations it's barely felt
>>315710764
Werewolf the Apocalypse Would Make the Tights shit for a Video game
>>315712263
Well, I for one forgot to save pics in the earlier thread that showed the nvidia GPU settings for modding this game. Anybody got those? Two pics, I recall.
>>315712263
Whats this about a VtMB2?
>>315717113
Thread is still in archive >>315600932
>>315717770
paradox bought it
they are known to shit out an underwhelming game every few months so expect vtmb 2 before 2017
>>315717770
There is nothing we know for sure. Paradox bought White Wolf and everything from CCP because they want to make game, Obsidian interested too and they worked with Paradox for a long time already. That's all.
>>315716369
I think they can, but they have to throw it back up later.
>>315717994
Nah, Pillars were announced at september 2012 and released only at march 2015.
I doubt Paradox would rush Obsidian too hard with such promising product. It would be a real shame in such case.
Posting best girl
>>315718530
It's gonna be a shit game with Obsidian developing it either way
>>315719792
Tremere master race.
>>315719934
>>315712263
>Obsidian (ugh)
If we want something that isn't an isometric game who else would you want to do it? CDPR is the only other dev I can think of and I don't want them to do it. Plus they're already working on Cyberpunk.
>>315719906
Will see. Pillars were boring for me, but I like NWN2. They can do good characters. Hard to say how they are at telling stories. And bugs of course, there will be tons of bugs, just like in VTMB. It's very promising, anon.
>>315720236
>who else
There is no one in the west. I'd give it to Ice Pick Lodge.
>>315720265
No, Avellone could do good characters. VtmB was all Troika. If Paradox gave Vampire to Obsidian you'd have Josh Sawyer overseeing the plot. Rather have Metzen at that point.
>>315719792
best girl was posted at the beginning of the thread anon
>>315720589
>Ice Pick Lodge
They cannot into games. Their "Art" is either boring or unplayable.
>>315720589
>Ice Pick Lodge
I guess that might work. I've only played a little bit of Pathologic but it seems somewhat similar. I don't remember if Pathologic has stats though. That probably wouldn't be too much of an issue to implement. I still think Obsidian would be better though, even if a little bit since they have connections to the original game to some extent. Having a dev not related might do wonders though. Anyone else besides them?
>>315721240
Not really even though Age of Decadence guy put even more branching paths than you find in VtmB. I doubt SWERY or Suda 51 would be interested and it would be too moeshit with them.
>>315720614
Obviously not, because I had to come into this thread to post her.
>>315721501
Then you posted wrong girl, anon.
>>315721403
Well I specified not isometric because while AoD has tons of RPG content I'm not sure how well they'd be able to develop a game like Bloodlines. It could work though I guess.
Have SWERY or Suda 51 ever made an RPG? I don't want a new WoD game to be some cuhrazy hack and slash shit.
I wouldn't be against an isometric game though, but I want a new Bloodlines-ish game first.
>>315710764
Rulebooks.
or wiki for basic info.
>>315713719
>>315712358
She also spent like 3 Vitae or so, I really doubt Janos sisters are in ~7 humanity zone.
But most Bloodlines fans don't know shit about WoD
>>315721742
>Have SWERY or Suda 51 ever made an RPG? I don't want a new WoD game to be some cuhrazy hack and slash shit.
SWERY or Suda 51 both suck at gameplay but SWERY is a good writer (with dead career) and Suda is a visionary compared to most western devs. I don't care much about RPG aspects of the franchise, I just want variety of approach.
>>315717994
people jizz over VtM and Bloodlines, but what about PnP? CCP fucked Onyx Path when they denied reissue of revised edition the corebook with God Machine update and now everyone who wants to play GMC has to have from 3 to 5 books on their hands.
>>315722229
>I don't care much about RPG aspects of the franchise
Well I'm not sure how serious I can take your opinions about who should make a new game if you don't care if it's an RPG or not. Still, Icepick is a good choice now that I think about it but I still want to see what Obsidian does.
>>315722430
It should have some RPG elements, sure but honestly I'd prefer a walking simulator with strong puzzles and branching paths. Really don't care whether I put a point in guns or two in melee.
>>315722675
Personally, the game I'd like the most is an original XCOM clone with squad based demon hunting in WoD universe. With characters that are not nameless grunts.
>>315722801
meant for
>>315722387
>>315722675
>>315722801
I mean there's plenty of non-RPG games that could be made but first and foremost I want a game similar to Bloodlines and hopefully good. I think it's a waste basing something off a pnp RPG series if you're just going to throw all but the setting away.
>>315722801
>>315723162
I want a Vigil game. I really like VIgil and XCOM styled game would work.
Get grunts who got a glimpse of WoD and now scared shitless and want to do something, level them up, buy a safehouse in your City, update it with traps, caches and hidden facilities, defend it from "monsters", patrol the streets, start your own\join covenant or try and work towards bigger conspiracy. Throw in some "day life" elements like some Hunters jobs and family or bribing cops, getting connections for extra flavor.
>>315723457
But VtMB is barely an RPG due to its piss poor gameplay. Only thing that works is seduction/intimidation/persuasion which can be reworked with 'branching paths' I mentioned.
>>315723567
Yeah, couldn't remember the name, Hunter the Vigil... with carefully designed setpieces, nothing random, a strict campaign... so I guess not exactly what you'd prefer. I wouldn't give the player an ounce of freedom other than when fates of characters are involved (throw in a bit of Fire Emblem-ish sacrifice).
>>315723736
I just want to run over Werewolves in my car and set Vampires on fire while my 4 friends are pocking it with long sticks or breaking ghoul arms with my eldritch art of (cold)metal baseball bat to the hand, also works for breaking jaws
There is also a possibility for investigative missions, Hunters need to stalk their pray before killing it.
both approaches would work, IMO sandbox with scripted events would work better, persistent party with permadeath is n option. IMO linear story with no variation would limit this game potential.
>>315724375
I think sandbox always limits the gameplay death and the narrative strength as evidenced with the demise of lore driven MGS series.
>>315724669
>depth
>>315724669
MGS had a ton of problems with story, being sandbox wasn't one of them.
Game narrative also can and should be emergent, not only scripted. But Squad based TBS games worked narrative into their games with elements of sandbox. Think of it as a bunch of sidequests.
Also MGS sandbox and XCOM sandbox look and play differently.
>>315721216
>>315721240
>>315720589
>Ice Pick Lodge
Just throw Promethean at them. Or Changeling.
>>315724998
sandbox simplified the setpieces making them non existent in fact and ruined the careful level design as well.
>>315719792
>Commie vampire
It's like two shit together.
>>315721639
>Not executing her once she stops being useful
Bitch is a wild dog that needs to be put down. Just because she isn't kill crazy all the time, doesn't mean I'm okay with her. And despite what she says, there's no way she can keep that up that level of murdering without harming the masquarade.
>>315725731
Can't they consume dead flesh ?
She should hook up with Vandal.
>>315726152
>dead flesh
no. she's a Nagaraja. She must eat alive prey.
This makes her really bad for Masquerade.
>>315726583
Well then she should move to detroit.
>>315726678
Isn't Detroit a Sabbath territory? I don't remember shit about about VtM.
>>315725731
>that level of murdering
Cammy, please. She need only one body per 10 days. She can kill group of homeless people (and no one would ever care about them), freeze the bodies and will have food for a whole month. Your average vamp has more risk to being noticed when feeding.
>>315727157
She can't freeze them as in put them in ice, she must use rituals to preserve bodies.
Kindred can drink blood without the victim noticing, blood back are an option too.
And I really doubt someone would become a blood doll for her.
>>315726780
Yeah that's why it's so shit.
>>315717805
Oh yeah! Thanks!
>>315730523
>that hairline
JUST
Is thaumaturgy any useful? I know blood strike was very abusable at some point, but it looks like it was fixed long time ago. How bloodboil works against bosses? Is it worth it?
>playing as toreador again
>mfw those early guns
jesus christ I forgot they were so bad. At least the glock isn't shit and I have celerity 3 now
isolated
>>315732285
Yeah, still pretty much the best discipline along with celerity
Can other clans learn disciplines they don't start with in the pnp game? If so is there a limit like they can only be leveled up a certain amount?
I really wish I could find someone to play the pnp game with irl.
And hopefully a new game would have more stuff from the pnp game than Bloodlines, though Bloodlines wasn't bad at it, but a bit simplified from what I've read.
>>315734669
Yeah. They'd have to find someone willing to teach it to them, generally speaking different clans will be more or less willing to teach. Like it could be easy getting potence as a gangrel, but good luck getting thaumaturgy
>>315734669
You'd ask about tabletob in /tg/, but whatever.
In old wod (vtm) you limited to your clan disciplines, but there also was caitiffs aka clanless who can learn any disciples but for higher cost.
In new (vtr) you start with any two clan disciplines (or a single one at 2nd level) and 3rd one can be any other. There are bunch of common disciplines available for everybody and some restricted to specific covenants or clans.
>>315735519
>limited to clan disciplines
not really, you can learn others. I think it takes a lot longer to learn those though
playing bloodlines for the first time and just entered some mansion thing
absolutely fuck no i thought the light shattering was bad enough, i go inside and i see someone jump through a wall and the light fixture spazzes out whenever i get close
just how long do i have to spend in that hellhole before i can leave and never come back?
>>315736949
I did it today and it only took like 20 minutes I think. But this is my second time through the game so it'll probably be longer for you.
Honestly that level is talked about a lot and while it is atmospheric and somewhat scary I don't really like it. It's basically just a theme park environment.
>>315737084
any cheap scares i should know about or is it generally just unsettling?
>>315737195
:^)
>>315737321
help me, mate
i can't be doin with this
>>315737406
try not to get squished
>>315737406
it's fine, just pay attention to your surroundings and youre gucci
>>315737406be careful
>>315737406
There's shit flying at you sometimes but other than that I can't think of anything I'd classify as a jump scare. I probably have a different criteria for that than some people though.
>>315737406
Some very small "jump scares" in one of the places you go where some items in the building gets thrown at you but nothing loud/screaming shit to worry about. It's more surprising than jump scares.
I hate jump scares shit and I had no problems with this game. The game does have some genuinely scary areas though but that it just due to how creepy it is.
>>315730523
>>315721639
So is she a regular vampire that is a bit crazy or is she a different species or whatever?
>>315739720
Nagaraja is her clan. You can read more about them in wiki. And she is not crazy at all.
>>315740064
Thank you
I don't know much about VTM lore and what not so I wasn't sure.. but I figured she wasn't crazy.. I thought maybe she was an entire different monster type altogether.
This clan would have been fun to play in Bloodlines.
>>315716369
If a vampire chomps someone under the influence of alcohol or drugs, they get a minor hit.
>>315744360
Would drinking the blood of someone having an orgasm make the vampire cum?
>>315744360
Well, can't you just mix alcohol with blood for the same effect? Or is it another magical bullshit and you drink "emotions"?
>>315745012
It's exactly that, actually. Drink drunk blood, get drunk yourself. Drink blood with alcohol, get ruined food.
>Just finished listening to Surfer Rosa by Pixies
>Load up my Malkavian character
>Join The anarchs, Damsel wants me to give her gossip about the prince
>One dialog option is to say that there are rumours about him being into field hockey players
That dialog cannot be anything but a reference to I'm Amazed by Pixies. So my question is:
Can the malkavian PC read your own mind?
pls halpI liked the GY!BE reference from the doomsayer too
>>315716976
I've been waiting for too long
>>315717994
I wouldn't expect VtMB2 at all, since oWoD is over.
How is Requiem, anyway? I only know about The Masquerade because of this game, so I never really read up on the new one.
>heal Heather
>tell her I am vampire
>she starts screaming
Damn, I didn't play so long I almost forgot she was a normal human before we met.
Btw, I managed to spam blood strike a few times in a row. Still don't understand how and why it happens.
>>315745821
there are a couple of changes
>no more generation
>no more caine
>less clans
>more bloodlines
>different sects
>sect gives you abilities
etc
Trying to find all VtM Bloodlines concept art is hard as fuck. GameBanshee used to have a gallery of all of that stuff ages ago but it was removed for some reason.
Do you folks think a thread on /tg/ about all Vampire the Masquerade artwork from the RPG books would actually get anything good in reply?
The few times I tried to discuss oWoD in the WoD general, most people just ignored me.
Best clan coming through, niggers.
Celerity + high melee skill + good sword + Potence > any other shit you can come up with.
Also, Murikan Iconoclast (Anarchs) Brujah are shit. Yuropean Idealist bros is where it's at.
>>315746294
That's not True Brujah.
>>315745752
So, they developed game in WoD setting and then were closed.
Troika made Bloodlines and then goes bankrupt.
Pure Obsidian...
>>315745821
>How is Requiem, anyway?
i endured 2 hours of extremely tedious and generic dungeon cleaning before i quit
>>315746210
they could i guess
but that concept art looks like shit desu
>>315746210
Why does the Tremere guy need that gay ass piercing? He was a GOAT PC until I noticed that shit.
>playing vtm:bloodlines for the first time
>went with noseferatu
did I make a mistake
![20-iu3r88VNJdzs8[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DiA6Dib.jpg "20-iu3r88VNJdzs8[1].jpg")
>>315746294
is Serena kill? ):
>>315746536
Yes. They not very interesting in general. Unlike malk you just scare people, not make fun of their dirty secrets.
>>315746454
To each his own.
>>315746352
A shit. Promethean sympathizers/closet Promethean warrior-poets are what makes Brujah actually good, not their actual lineage.
>>315746654
Yes.
>>315746654
Yup, deader than dead. She a necromancer, a vampire and met her Final Death in that castle. That's like, Triple Dead at least.
>>315746708
it would fit in 70s new orleans
>>315746654
>mfw her German VA
She was sultry as fuck in English, but German kicks it up a notch further.
>>315746654
ye olde shite writing
>>315744638
I require an answer.
>>315746868
>not playing a game of vampire set in the '80s
Everyone's snorting coke and out to make money no matter what means. Sounds perfect.
>tfw you will never be a cute toreador
>tfw you will never be called degenerate by everyone, while bathing yourself in luxury and hedonism
>tfw you will never seduce mortals, just for fun
>tfw you will never be sonic fast
WHO /TOREADOR/ HERE? Best clan.
>>315746969
>Alright, so I'm with this dumb bitch here and just waiting for her to get high so I can feed on her.
>>315746978
>toreador
>luxury
Nah, you will spend most of your no-life in shitty clubs.
>>315746969
oliver stone really shat the eighties up with his fiction
>>315746384
The only thing that survived from this game are the cut scenes, but they are kinda unfinished and the voice acting sucks, especially for werewolves.
>>315747073
That's half true. But for me, toreador are the best clan because they are simply the most human of the clans.
Everything they do is to escape boredom, just like every human. Now imagine doing that for all eternity.
They are the most dead inside of any clan, makes you think a lot anon.
>>315746352
I find it interesting original Brujah Antediluvian Ilyes is one of the few confirmed to have been killed and long time ago at that. Until Gehenna pulled some fuckery and had him re-emerge from hiding or something because everything needed to be even more of a clusterfuck than it already was.
>>315747460
I can't find anything actually entertaining for a few years already.
>Now imagine doing that for all eternity.
Horrible.
>>315747617
Why do you think vampires get into their politics in the first place? Because you have an eternity ahead of you and you need to keep yourself busy somehow. There ARE vampires who "dig a well" aka find a steady source of blood somewhere and do fuck all between torpor, but that's essentially the equivalent of becoming a vampire NEET.
>>315716369
there's a discipline at least that allows them to eat and drink like normal persons. i think it was a salubri one
>>315710764
>mfw vtmb threads every day since the rights have been bought
I'm happy about this,
but you do realize nothing good will come out of it right?
>>315747269
If there was one thing they fucked up in Forsaken it was full-page art. I miss the old white and black comic and stencil looks over all this new shit.
>>315747879
I can only hope for fangames.
Though, then again, weren't the new Shadowrun games decent? Maybe the lightning will strike twice, who knows.
>>315747979
>Though, then again, weren't the new Shadowrun games decent?
HBS got better at making them, but they weren't really mechanically faithful to Shadowrun. Did a decent job atmosphere-wise, though.
If Obsidian did crowdfunding for a new WoD game, would you support it?
>>315748105
sure. it could be their second kickstarter they hinted at, especially if paradox has been in talks with them about making a wod game. because I doubt they bought the franchise on a whim and without some sort of plan.
>>315747879
Don't say that, anon..
Let us dream?
>>315748105
No.
If the team that worked on the first game was involved then maybe.
>>315747617
You're not a Toreador that could snap his fingers and get Kris10 on her knees though
>>315747879
Who bought the rights?
Can we actually hope for a new game?
>>315748105
I havent supported a single kickstarted game desu, I did buy expedition:conquistador and div:os
so if obsidian announced one I would definitely buy and play the game once it released, but would not support it prior to that
>>315748285
Paradox if I'm not mistaken,
I doubt they would have bought them to do jack shit with them, I'll give it 5 years.
Do any characters from bloodlines appear in redemption?
>>315749054
Nope, not evenCaine.
>>315744638
>>315746954
No, that doesn't even make sense. They can't cum anyway
>>315749269
Then how do they get drunk if they aren't supposed to be able to do that, either? I mean, they aren't even humans anymore, and yet humanity is one of their stats.
There's gotta be a way.
>>315751463
It's amazing how the character models hold up even now 11 years after the game's release.
>>315751637
>yfw 11 year old game has better facial animation than Fallout 4
>>315751694
I don't think anyone's surprised by that since Bethesda spends 90% of its budget for game development on marketing.
>>315751990
heck, the facial animation in fallout 2 and 1 (talking heads) are better than gamebryo bethesda shit
>>315752092
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
>>315721639http://webmshare.com/AG9GA
Ugh, Cammy
>>315752150
post a single example of npc in a bethesda game showing visible emotion
>>315750770
Humanity is a stat that indicates how much the beast controls their thoughts and actions.
0 humanity turns you into a ravenous monster that acts like an animal.
>>315752513
can't a vampire forsake humanity completely for a path of enlightenment?
>>315747951
Yeah, they looked pretty good. But there were some books with potato pics too
>>315719792
Damsel is cute! CUTE!
>not enough porn of the girls
WHY?
Why is this game so unknown?
>>315754554
You do understand the porn is made by commissioning it? If the community doesn't pay, the porn doesn't get produced. It's that simple.
>>315752594
Yes, but the game only handles the Path of Humanity because most neonates follow this path in the getgo before finding out what they actually want to do with their unlife.
Afterwards, you can change your path to whatever. But for the sake of simplicity most players (that I know of) still use the term "Humanity" to determine your rating into the path you've chosen.
Because for ALL paths, 0 rating means turning into a constantly frenzied killing machine and 10 rating means absolute control of yourself and conviction in your own ideals, thus rating 10 feels inherently like a "human" perfection (think Buddhism's enlightment).
>>315754814
Being an artist myself, I wouldn't be against doing fan art for the sake of fan art.
The problem with porn is that it can be troublesome if it gets associated with you somehow, depending on the kind of crowd you draw.Considering I've been commissioned by furries for unspeakable things, I think it's more that I'm just lazy than anything. However, that could explain the lack of general fan art. You could try asking in a drawthread here but I have absolutely no idea what kinda quality they produce since I never frequent them.
>>315755202
I want it...
>>315752332
Chirstine from Dead Money was a shitshow.
>>315756775
Well that wasn't bethesda that was obsidian
>>315757586
yes. ambitious, but rubbish.
>hey , we wrote a mute character , she communicates through gestures and facial expressions
>but Gamebryo doesn't support those
>Fuck it, we going to do it anyway
But knowing Obsidian, they would still use text, even in UE4.
Reading her lines game me 90s flashbacks.
>>315716369
go ask /tg/
there was a splat book that said that vampires have to expend blood points to digest food
it also takes a blood point to "lube" up
>>315758198
Vamp can spend difference between his humanity and humanity score 7 in blood points to appear Human for the rest of the scene.
>>315745460
>talk to npc
>he's glitched and spazzing out, moving around really fast in dialogue
>malk tells him to stop jumping around
yeah he reads minds
and that reference blew me away when I figured it out
>>315716369
They vomit it back up. Remember what jack said blood is your new everything. Its like a super vice.
>>315762856
>>315763418
Female malk is simply the best... better than all the rest.
>>315758469
so it's free above 7 humanity?
>>315764345
yes. but good luck keeping it.
Btw, blood strike works surprisingly well, maybe I don't even need a gun since it works against vamps too.
Sometimes it's still possible to spam it few times in a row before the first bloodball hit the target. Weird.
What are the chances of people trying to remake Bloodlines, like Project Vaulderie attempted to before CCP shut them down with cease and desist, in some relatively new engine?
>>315764780
What toothpaste do vampires use?
so basically one SJW shithole joke of a dev bought the rights from another SJW shithole joke of a dev
great, i can't wait to play Vampire: The Triggering - Diversity. it'll be so great playing a pangender transblack demiqueer PoC who uses xir pronouns as all of the other landwhale vampires fight the patriarchy
>>315765554
Why is Paradox SJW?
>>315765625
u know that they are swedes right?
do you really think they have the balls to create a character like jeanette again?
>>315764978
project vaulderie is attempting to continue, they contacted paradox with high hopes
>>315765784
swedish developers are less sjw keked than american ones
>>315765868
They did? Could you provide a source for this please?
>>315765784
>they are swedes
nice meme, like above poster said swedish developers are alot less SJW than american ones. It's only our politicians and parts of our massmedia thar are SJW, not our videogame developers. Stop believing everything pol tells you.
>>315766014
you could just jewgle it, you know...
>>315766291
How long will it take them to get a response?
>>315767181
What will happen when sweden democrats win?
>>315720196
Pure sex.
Is it possible for a ghoul to become a full on vampire?
>>315768060
What's that say?
>>315768123
Uh, yeah.
That's how a ton of vampires are born. Being a ghoul acts as a sort of "internship" to see if you're qualified to be Embraced.
Anyway - what's with all the Bloodlines threads again? Is it because CCP lost their grip on White Wolf/Onyx Path products?
Do you honeslty believe anything released will be able to top or compete with Bloodlines?
Shit's dead bros, time to move on.
Which scenarios are the best for someone who never played pnp rpg before? And oWoD or nWoD?
>Vampire
>Werewolf
>Mage
>Changeling
>Promethean:
>Hunter
>>315768371
Full-up question:
Does the sire have to be their original master, or can it be anyone else?
>>315768371
Obsidian are good at making good sequels.
KotOR was arguably good, KotORII was a masterpiece.
Fallout 3 was shit. New Vegas was a solid ARPG with very well developped RPG elements.
Neverwinter Nights 1 was shit. NWN2 MotB was a masterpiece that is only second to PS:T when it comes to writing quality.
If anyone can pull it off, it's Obsidian.
>>315768659
>not enough room for all my fallout 4 threads
>>315765202
please anyone
>>315768647
To be fair, Sverigedemokraterna does have new-nazi roots.
>>315768672
>Does the sire have to be their original master
No. You can kek a vampire by embracing his ghoul even when the ghoul is blood bound.
>>315768647
Oh, vi är means we are
I guess that makes sense
>>315768659
god forbid people talk about a good game on /v/ instead of the AAA slop you faggots like to talk about
>>315768923
>kek
What is this devilry? I wrote "kek". C U C K
>>315768672
Can be anyone else, but it's hard to break the blood bond between Ghoul and master.
I'm not sure if being Embraced nullifies the Blood Bond, I can't remember. Probably does.
>>315768594
If you're familiar with Bloodlines go with Vampire 20th Anniversary, it'll be the easiest to get into. You'll probably end up doing a Masquerade wanna-be instead of fulling embracing what the setting has to offer (Jyhad, Gehenna, etc), but it's a start.
Werewolf is pretty cool, a lot less limiting thanks to the fact that mortals will always disbelieve what a werewolf does. I forget what it's called -- I wanna say the Shroud but I don't think that's right. It's been a while.
Mage is fun and great for rewarding creative problem solving.
Changeling I dunno, never played either iteration. Same with Promethean.
oWoD Hunter (The Reckoning) is awful, avoid at all costs unless you wanna play as the Priest guys from Bloodlines. nWoD Hunter (The Vigil) is great if you have a good storyteller; monster hunting as a normal dude is pretty based.
>>315769045
>>315768836
They use memegate
>>315769214
>tumblr gif
Someone should kill you
>>315769045
KEK 2bh fâm
I'm going to marry Pisha!
>>315769045
>>315769045
lol
when did this happen?
reminds me of harbl
>>315768785
>Obsidian are good at making good sequels.
They're good at making expansion packs with great stories. I'll give you that. But building games from the ground up? Fuck... no. Alpha Protocol is hilariously bad gameplay wise and Neverwinter Nights 2 is one of the worst cRPGs ever made in terms of gameplay.
Also, for the record, I found KOTOR2 to be a pretentious piece of drivel shoehorned into what could easily be considered an expansion pack.
I liked NV but, again, expansion pack.
MOTB I need to check out again... when it was released my computer was a toaster but I really disliked all of the special snowflake NPCs that tagged along with you.
Either way, I wouldn't want Obsidian to touch VTMB. They'd fuck up the gameplay majorly. Now, if they could release a direct sequel aka expansion pack like all of their half decent games, I'd be okay with it, but by this time VTMB is so old it would be impossible.
>>315769597
Lucky you. Take care of her, okay?
>>315710764
I just installed the game since I have nothing to play now (I don't really feel like playing anything).
Got the patch 9.4 and it's asking me what version to install.
Either basic or with additional content.
Where can I find some info on what's in the additional content?
Should I just install everything?
Is Tremere good for a first playthrough?
>>315716369
>>315758198
>>315758469
Yup. They spend blood to make themselves appear and act and feel like normal human beings, to blend in and disguise better, for feasting or otherwise.
>>315770206
thanks desu senpai
>>315770948
Basic is just all bugs fixed for the original game (well most at least) while additional adds some new animations, sound effects/voice acting (bad) and changes some locations of the items and stuff like that.. as well as a fan-made restored quest location that didn't make it into the original game and some new quests.
Probably more but that is what I know incase you don't find more info about it.
>>315770948
Don't do additional content unless you like shitty mods and unnecessary, out-of-place stuff.
Everything is good first playthrough except Nosferatu. People say save Malkavian for a second playthrough too but I've also heard it's interesting with the dialogue the first time around.
>>315771138
kek they swapped t b h f a m too
>>315771217
I remember I got some earlier version of the patch with all the info what's in it but this time it's just a installer.
I think I'll go with the basic version for a first playthrough.
I'd really want to play as a malkavian since I played as one a lifetime ago with friends but I see that's not adviseable since they are crazy.
>>315769934
>I found KOTOR2 to be a pretentious piece of drivel
Opinion discarded. There's nothing "pretentious" about it, unless you consider any story with a philosophical subtext as being "pretentious".
>>315771445
Yeah probably a good idea.
Hope you enjoy it, bruh
>>315769934
which company would you realistically have take over VTMB than obsidian? at least they have some connections with Troika, even. Bioware? Bethesda? EA games?
>>315764780
Bloodstrike worked for me until I reached Hollywood I think
>>315771601
Thank you anon.
>>315771716
Not him and I think Obsidian is a good choice but I wouldn't mind seeing what CD Projekt would make with the IP as well.
Anyone who is cool with making an actual Cyberpunk game is alright in my book.
What happens if a guy gets embraced by two vampires at the same time
>>315772020
>CD Projekt
They couldn't make a good RPG even if their life depended on it.
>>315772301
Alright EA then
>>315772301
>They couldn't make a good RPG even if their life depended on it.
>>315772268
one with more potent blood becomes the sire, i'd wager
>>315772432
What about the the Deus Ex devs?
>>315772498
Yes, exactly. You have a problem with that? Are you implying that Witcher games have well fleshed out RPG elements? They don't.
>>315747617
Dont worry you will probably just get wrecked by a hunter or werewolf and be doomed to an eternity of danmnation because Catholic god us canon and hates vampires.
>>315772657
But they do.
>>315772657
CDPR is probably the only modern developer that could do justice to VtM:B in terms of atmosphere/presentation. They'd definitely need to step it up in terms of RPG mechanics from The Witcher though.
>>315772657
if rpg codex says they're good rpgs then it's good enough for me. they know more about rpgs than your uneducated ass
>>315772657
The Witcher games are getting better in my opinion but okay. If Cyberpunk is good then I wouldn't mind a Vampire game from them.
>>315772887
Except they don't. I've made a lengthy post why Witcher games are shit RPGs in some of the previous Witcher threads, perhaps you've read them. All I'm going to say now is that Witcher games have:
>shit character generation (can't pick initial class, advantages/disadvantages/skills anything that makes your character unique)
>shit character advancement
>shit character customization - you are dead set in a certain character archetype, you cannot focus on other 3 "S" (Speak, Sneak, Slay) archetypes apart from "Slay"
>shit (literally none) C&C outside of dialogue choices
The only time when your character build matters in Witcher games is during combat. That's not how a good RPG is designed.
A good RPG allows you to complete and fail quests in different ways based on the different skills of your character as well as your dialogue choices while in Witcher games your build is literally irrelevant when determining possible quest solutions, only your dialogue choices matter.
Witcher games are poor RPGs and are literally VNs with a real time combat system.
>>315772965
You are literally the embodiment of an unwashed pleb. Your opinion is worthless, because you don't even have one.
>>315771716
Shadowrun guys may actually do a great job.
>>315773778
I agree with you completely, but CDPRfags usually excuse this with "it's okay this is shit because accuracy to muh books/lore"
We'll have to see how Cyberpunk turns out
>>315772268
Lower generation sire overrides higher generation sire.
>>315747879
if its isometric shit, I ain't playing it.
>>315774372
WAT IF THEY ARE THE SAME GENERATOT BUT DIFFERENT SPECIES OF BAMPIRE
ONE IS GANGREN AND ONE IS TORTADOR
Also, another thing to consider for all of those, who claim that CDPR would be able to make a good sequel to Bloodlines.
Remember all those times when you failed a stat/skill check in Witcher games? Remember when you could/couldn't complete a quest in a certain way because your character was/wasn't built to fit the appropriate archetype?
Yeah, me neither, because Witcher games have none of that, which is exactly what made Bloodlines a good RPG, since you could (or couldn't) complete quests in different ways based on your social (Intimidation, Seduction, Persuasion) and other skills.
>>315774193
>Shadowrun guys may actually do a great job.
Make it the guys who wrote Dragonfall and I'll agree with you.
>>315773778
>3 "S"
>>315774517
CDPRkiddie detected.
You're Camarilla right /v/?
>>315710764
>>315710764
NOSFERATU STEALTH SURVIVAL HORROR GAME HIDING FROM NIKTUKU WHEN?
>>315773778
Who would you pick for developing a new VTM RPG then?
