Realism and realistic artstyles needs to be banned from videogames for good now. It's been proven for sure now that realism sucks for the following reasons:
-the character designs are always boring as fucking shit(looking at you Arkham Knight and CoD)
-Environments are always boring as fucking shit(see above games)
-Gameplay tends to be boring as fucking shit
Meanwhile look at the slew of new moba shooters being made, all but one uses a cartoony style and look way better for it. Cartoony styles mean much better character designs, more fun gameplay, and actual COLORS. Cartoony styles also age way better, look at Batman Arkham Knight, that game recently came out and already looks outdated graphically, in another year's time that game is gonna look like early ps2 type shit in our eyes. Meanwhile fucking Wind Waker is still one of the best looking video games graphically of all time, due to the cartoony artstyle.
Realism is shit, Cartoony wins, and is what video games were meant to look like. You want realism? Get off your ass and go the fuck outside.
Agreed, realism has always been soul less cancer.except in car games
>>315605268
10/10
Solid b& anon. I'm going to steal it to use later.
>>315605491
>implying Forza "Drive On This Dotted Line And Constantly Brake So You Don't Spin Out" Motorsports is more fun than literally any game without "realistic" driving physics
>>315605268
Why would I pay to play this trash when I can play TF2 for free and pretty much the same thing
>>315605268
>Get off your ass and go the fuck outside.
Judging by this display of autism I think you should follow your own advice.
>>315605576
>implying shitty fictional "cars" will ever compete with the real life counterparts
I agree, stylized graphics are the best.
But there's nothing wrong with realism if it suits the game, like say Arma 3, Red Orchestra 2 or Mafia games.
But how will you know if it had good graphics if it doesn't look like a bad photograph?
>>315605649
tf2 bretty gud
although im pretty sure overwatch will only be 30 dollar ish
>>315605268
It doesn't really matter, if game is good, it's good.
Agree with you 100%. If I really liked realism, I wouldn't be playing many video games.
>>315605673
How is stating a proven fact autism? Realism in video games sucks and limits creativity. If Overwatch had a realistic artstyle it would look like shit, have boring gameplay, and ugly looking characters. Tracer would look like shit, like a real life british woman.
>>315605996
>It doesn't really matter, if game is good, it's good.
Realism ensures the game won't be good, or won't be as good as it could be.
Say no to realism.
I agree.. even fighting game developers understand this now.
>muh colors
>>315605673
Kek
>>315605268
Its been proven by what exactly? Because all I see are your opinions, not one of them missing the love for curse words that only a 13 year old has
>>315606161
Realism even manages to make colors look shit, see? Another reason cartoon style is superior.
>>315606157
Damn straight. Look at how shit MK X looks compared to SFV. Also Death Cargo used realism style and was terrible because of it.
>>315606275
>Its been proven by what exactly?
Time? Batman Arkham Knight has aged terribly and already looks like shit, meanwhile Wind Waker is cartoony and looks fantastic. Cartoon and anime styles age so much better than realism does. Hell, back in the day, we used to actually think Quake looked good, because it was "realistic". Now we look back and laugh at how shitty the game looks.
>>315606157
Seriously though, how the hell did Street Fighter: The Movie: The game become a thing?
This could be a good thread, but instead you chose to make it your own little tumblr thread on /v/ ranting about your personal gripes on things with shitty non sequiturs.
Inflatable butts.
>>315606312
MKX looks fucking great. It will look like shit in a couple years though.
>>315606460
This.
>Quake looked good, because it was "realistic". Now we look back and laugh at how shitty the game looks.
Yep OP fucked up.
>[something I don't like] needs to be banned from video games
If this was actually a thing, From and Platinum wouldn't be making games anymore and voice protags and dialog wheels would be banned from RPGs.
>>315606460
Where was the non-sequitur?
>>315606447
Same way that Ratchet and Clank: The Movie: The Game is happening soon
Because everything is awful
>>315605268
>Realism and realistic artstyles needs to be avoided in videogames for good now. It's been proven for sure now that realism is bad for the following reasons:
>-The character designs are always boring and lifeless (looking at you Arkham Knight and CoD)
>-Environments are always boring and lifeless (see above games)
>-Gameplay tends to be boring and depressive
>Meanwhile look at the slew of new moba shooters being made, all but one uses a cartoony style and look way better for it. Cartoony styles mean much better character designs, more fun gameplay, and actual COLORS. Cartoony styles also age way better, look at Batman Arkham Knight, that game recently came out and already looks outdated graphically, in another year's time that game is gonna look like early ps2 game in our eyes. Meanwhile fucking Wind Waker is still one of the best looking video games graphically of all time, due to the cartoony artstyle.
>Realism loses, Cartoony wins, and is what video games were meant to look like. You want realism? Get up your chair and go outside.
Here same text with less angst.
>>315606537
OP has never actually seen the shit UE4 can pull off because he's a nintendo/cartoon loving babby.
>>315606598
>realism sucks
>games with realism tend to have boring gameplay
'Cartoony' or 'Stylised' art styles are fine, as long as they're not cop-outs for having good graphics.
Just because you've chosen a certain art style, it doesn't mean your rendering processes should be abandoned.
For example, UT is not meant to be realistic, or realistic looking, but the techniques used allow the user to better relate the the visuals they're seeing, increasing immersion.
I wrote a paper on it.
>>315605268
anime and 2d artstyles age the best
>>315606508
MKX already looks like fucking shit.
>>315606595
Platinum is fine due to their art style being kinda odd and their gameplay and characters being so crazy. From is too realistic though and sucks ass. Fuck Bloodborne, sickdark bullshit.
>>315606779
>>315606721
Graphics don't matter, only gameplay does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg3hvVtpZYs
Look at KoF 14, the gameplay looks fucking amazing, yet people are bitching about graphics. Since when did gamers get so shallow? So long as a game plays well, graphics mean nothing. I'd play a solid game with stick figures over some ultra hd realism shit that plays like ass.
>>315607036
I mean sure you can play your fighting games and make this argument but for real games, graphics increase immersion. It has the same effect as good SFX, music, plot, character development, control mapping, etc etc.
It's just that your genre of choice requires dialing in buttons rather than actually playing a game, so stick figures are fine.
>>315607036
>>315607210
Also graphics have no impact on gameplay for a reasonable developer. It's just that we have very few of those left.
Moral of the story is STOP BUYING VIDEO GAMES
>>315606845
anime IS a 2D artstyle, there's no need for the distinction you fucking weeb
>>315607210
>I mean sure you can play your fighting games and make this argument but for real games, graphics increase immersion. It has the same effect as good SFX, music, plot, character development, control mapping, etc etc.
>It's just that your genre of choice requires dialing in buttons rather than actually playing a game, so stick figures are fine.
>fighting games aren't real games
You can't be serious. You sound salty as fuck, must've got bodied at SF 4. Graphics don't mean shit you fucking faggot.
>>315607036
>I'd play a solid game with stick figures over some ultra hd realism shit that plays like ass.
Well, I'll be honest, I wouldn't play either.
Graphics augment gameplay, music augments gameplay, sound design augments gameplay, story can augment the enjoyment of a game. Without any of those, you just get a barebones gameplay prototype that won't hold your attention for long.But I bet you're the idiot who says to the chef to give you a plain medium rare steak with nothing else, B-B-BUT ITS THE STEAK THAT MATTERS SIDE DISH FAGS NEED TO GTFO
>>315606845
Too bad that game isn't 2d.
![Valkyria_Chronicles_battle[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BeKWbDp.jpg "Valkyria_Chronicles_battle[1].jpg")
>>315607373
but tree of savior is 3d
>>315607404
I'm sorry your genre sucks and you're a little child, but maybe we can discuss actual video games now.
>>315605268
they only make games cartoony to get T ratings so they can sell them to kids.
>>315605268
shut up masturbator
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dxKISXn.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
"Realism" ages like milk
>>315607486
Games that physically use three dimensions can have a 2D artstyle
>its been proven
>opinion
>opinion
>opinion
weve been trying for decades to eliminate morons as well, shits harder then you think
>>315606890
It looks fine stop being a stupid fanboy
I like mortal kombat and street fighter
>>315607580
into fine cheese? remember, its been almost a decade and nothings topped it
>>315607536
>they only make games cartoony to get T ratings so they can sell them to kids.
They only make games look realistic to get M ratings so they can sell them to little egdelord kids and edgy faggot teens/adults.
>>315606504
Why did no one wave a webm or gif of the obvious butt growth when he helmet goes down from that one video?
Hell, the video is even still up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvPp6XbbTb0
Literally all the new moba shooters look exactly the same. You can't differentiate between them at all.
It's the same shit with a different color palette and even worse textures and models defended by, "muh artstyle." Only they all look the fucking same.
I think the exact opposite, but then again I'm not a manchild with an IQ below 80.
>>315607659
>which is why they made grimdark edgy games before they even rated videogames
ok
>>315607612
It does not look fine, it looks like fucking garbage. The character doesn't look cartoony and has no creativity in design, but it's not graphically good enough to justify realism, nothing ever is. Anytime you think it's close, it will still fall short, hence why realism is trash.
Then again I bet you'd accept shit lie MKX, being an edgelord that enjoys Ed Boon shoveling his PISS AND SHIT into your goddamned mouth.
>>315607804
do you have anything besides an opinion?
>>315607580
I mean, shitty youtube screenshots are going to look like shit at the time too.
It is also 8 years old so there's that.
>>315607804
I bet this triggers you too
>>315607804
>WAAAAAAAAH
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>WWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Nice post real good analysis.
Literally all the new moba shooters look exactly the same. You can't differentiate between them at all.
>>315607712
It's the same shit with a different color palette and even worse textures and models defended by, "muh artstyle." Only they all look the fucking same.
They do not look the same, only realism games look the same, those moba shooters look highly stylized and unique. You just have shit taste.
>>315607715
>I think the exact opposite, but then again I'm not a manchild with an IQ below 80.
Yeah, instead you're an edgelord with an IQ of 75.
>>315607683
More evidence cartoony is better, female characters look so much better in that and anime style, than realism style. If only we could make real life women look like cartoons and anime. Real women look like shit, and have saggy titties and manjaws.
>>315608040
See
>>315607948
Your posts are awful.
>>315608040
They do look the same. You're literally defending them with "muh artstyle" now. They're all the same fucking game with the same 2quirky characters and "We wanna be pixar" visuals.
>>315607947
Maybe Boon should work on making female characters that look like women and not goddamned MEN. That, and gameplay that doesn't suck dicks. His games rely on shit realism graphics and sickdark gore to sucker idiots into buying that trash.
>>315607948
>>315607850
You two seem to really enjoy the taste of feces.
>>315608168
>seem to really enjoy the taste of feces
Says the man arguing for shit graphics playing trash genres.
Nice.
>>315608285
actually, he was the guy arguing it was shitty.
>>315608168
so, no, you have nothing but an opinion, and your implying that opinions are anything more then opinions, yes? well, my opinion is that your stupid. luckily, we both agree that an opinion is a valid logical argument and is acceptable. right.
>>315608159
Realism, note it looks like shit
https://youtu.be/RJ4S5G4nsUI
Stylized, note they all look amazing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nze_gzZ8CGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaQK7HX2CXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFsfpKQgGJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP0BRaoqr-A
CliffyB is dumb as shit, saying cartoony isn't his style, well he better learn to make it his style, because his game isn't even out yet and already looks dated as fuck graphically. Not to mention as I said, the character design is limited due to the realism, notice the other games have way better character designs.
Cartoony is good, but not if we're oversaturated, as will be the case. Overwatch certainly doesn't look good.
>>315608505
Wind Waker looking better than fully modded Crysis is fact, not opinion.
>>315608168
Get your head out of your ass and if you think Thay look like men you must be gay
>>315605268
everything you stated is an opinion. shut up.
>>315608557
We got oversaturated by nothing but realism shit the entire duration of ps3 and xbox360. It's time for cartoon and anime to make a comeback, like the good ol days of snes and genesis. Overwatch looks better than any shooter coming out now, and it looks way better than shit like killzone.
>>315605268
but muh BROWNANDGRAY!!!
>>315608601
That looks like a blonde guy you faggot.
Actual female character here.
>>315608687
Everything I stated is fact. Continue stuffing feces in your mouth, realism boy.
>>315605268
Fuck off weebshit with your cartoons
>>>/a/
>itt crybabies angry that shooters are steering away from buff bald white men with shaved heads running slowly in brown and grey city streets using generic weapons like glocks and assault rifles
>>315608584
Shaking my head to be honest, family.
>>315608781
This fucking guy
>>315608523
Guess what. In an ironic twist of fate LawBreakers is now the most unique game in the list of games you posted.
Because all those fucking cartoon games look exactly the same complete with the same style of characters, the same style of gameplay, the same everything except for the logos at the front.
Cartoony is fine if applied intelligently. Guilty Gear and Street Fighter both use different distinct visuals and would never be mistaken for the other.
>>315608865
Considering literally no one watches Overwatch on twitch I'd say these cartoon moba shooters are dead on arrival.
>>315608865
You got something against buff bald white men son?
I'll have you know this mute is the best fucking party member you could wish for.
>>315609173
>moba shooters
You are fucking idiot.
Savage2 or monday night combat would be moba shooter.
Overwatch and the likes have nothing to do with mobas.
>>315608781
>mfw just discovered the edit in tegaki function for 4chan x
>>315609537
> game is designed like to be a moba
> but as a shooter
> isn't a moba shooter
Anon. They're moba shooters. Get over it. Stop trying to pretend they're arena shooters because they've got nothing in common with actual arena shooters.
>>315609673
>they're arena shooters
I never implied that you fucking retard.
>>315605268
you forgot the most important point, making realistic games implies GRAFIX which skyrockets dev costs and dulls all other features since they aren't getting the focus and on multiplat games hogs most resources that can't be dedicated to say, "global" ai like stalker or physics (that unlike graphics can have a gameplay effect)
>>315609737
Sure you didn't.
>>315608781
It looks like they doctored her hair in the in-game version.
Overwatch is doing the right thing like TF2, make the characters distinguishable from their silhouettes.
Black ops 3 dun fucked up with no longer using two pre-determined teams but rather letting people design their own soldier. Online is a clusterfuck trying to find the enemy.
>>315605268
>Realism and realistic artstyles needs to be banned from videogames for good now. It's been proven for sure now that realism sucks for the following reasons:
Realism in video games defies gameplay variety, though. Witcher 3 is cool and all and a nice decision making game but from a level design or gameplay point of view, it's absolutely mediocre compared to Zelda, same goes for most mature and realistic games.
When your game has a "cartoon style" and doesn't go for a serious tone, you can do absolutely everything which basically offers unlimited gameplay and level design possibilities. Stuff like in this pic (Deku bud shooting player 50 feet into the air)
would never be accepted in Souls or Witcher, probably not even in a darker Twilight Princess style Zelda.
Only an absolute idiot who should never even be allowed to make threads on /v/ would fantasy games to be realistic.
Realism only works for very, very few games.
OP you are very obsessive
not every game is going for the same aesthetic
>>315607036
The Graphics look straight outta ps2 very early ps3 era.
>>315607404
>You can't be serious. You sound salty as fuck, must've got bodied at SF 4. Graphics don't mean shit you fucking faggot.
Nah brah you are the retard.
>>315609952
good think Souls and TW series aren't trying to be Zelda
>>315605268
There are more artstyles than realistic and cartoony, lol.
>>315605268
They are cartoony because it's easier for the player to get used to unreal things on the environment not because it's better it just fits the kind of game those companies are going for.
Why are videogames the only creative medium where utilizing reality and subverting it with unrealistic designs isn't allowed? That contrast has provided more depth to storytelling than hyper realism or full cartoon caricatures have.
Many of the greatest pieces of art and greatest films have used that contrast to create striking imagery and intense stories.
Yet we have faggots like >>315609952
that have no imagination and thinks realism automatically means no gameplay.
>>315610634
people are morons. remember, this entire thread is about someone wanting to ban an entire art style. because he thinks it looks bad.
i think he looks bad, and should be banned, and our arguments are literally the same. but one is right and one is wrong.
>>315608523
I'm gettin' reeeeeaaaaal sick and tired of class-based shooters.
>>315605268
Depends on the game.
Cartoony artstyles often manage to look great though, and they will keep looking great even 5 or 10 years from now. Like goddamn cell shaded art.
>>315608523
>heres one cherry picked example
>now let me compare it to many other cherry picked examples
i even AGREE with you, i dislike realism. i just wanted to point out how bad your argument was. it makes the rest of us look stupid.
>>315612772
>it makes the rest of us look stupid.
That's because you people are stupid
>>315605491
>F Zero
>not the best
>>315612882
citation needed
getting real tired of all games looking like a fucking cartoon
>>315605268
>It's been proven for sure now that realism sucks for the following reasons:
>-the character designs are always boring as fucking shit(looking at you Arkham Knight and CoD)
>-Environments are always boring as fucking shit(see above games)
>-Gameplay tends to be boring as fucking shit
All of these are wrong.
Realistic graphics suck because they age instantly. the games who look worst today are those who were praised the year they came out for looking so real, while those who have an actual artsyle and interpretation of reality can(!) have timeless appeal.
