http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/57927/?
Opinions? Anyone completed this mod? I heard if you find 5 blocks of C4 and the detonator you can destroy the rubble blocking the way through the Nipton Train Tunnel.
Can you complete this without dying once?
>playing with no goals
Well, fuck that then. I don't need an arrow guiding me where to go, but an incentive to look around doesn't hurt. Just saying "Everyones dead, lol. no quests" is retarded.
>>315328174
It's good, I like it.
This is now a new vegas thread.
>>315330643
>This is now a new vegas thread.
What did it start as, retard?
>>315328174
it's shit
>>315330947
A thread about a mod
now its ageneral
>>315331081
so you haven't tried it then?
fair enough
JUST
>>315330361
The only starting quest is to escape the Mojave
>>315328174
Seems like a fun mod
You can repair an airplane in the Searchlight Airport, and you can use a vertibird in McCarren There's also a way through Zion, apparently, but I have yet to find it.
>>315328174
artificial difficulty
>>315333896
>There's also a way through Zion, apparently, but I have yet to find it.
>Zion
Fuck this shit, it's 10 times worse than Mojave.
Dealing with tunnelers is hard enough, dealing with spore carriers (which are basically tunnelers Mk. II) and Wendie while not being able to see past 1 meter is too much.
>>315334150
wendie cant swim, also stays the fuck away during daylight.
>>315328174
Shit mod. All enemies have 20 agility or so movespeed default and have perfect condition weapons, armor, and unlimited ammo. The lolhardcore tedium shit only ever applies to you of course.
If you really want to check out the changes and such then just tgm it. You can meet the courier too.
>>315334523
easiest way to play it is to scoot over and grab the ratslayer then stealth headshot everything. You can farm NCR soldiers for ammo and anti insanity drugs. I wouldn't say the mod is bad it just gets tedious if you intend on winning.
>>315334523
>there is not a single game in which enemies has limited amount of ammo.
Is Project Nevada better than this? And as for weapon mods, do they add more guns into the world at random or do they mostly just replace the models?
I wanna play some NV, especially since I've never played it on PC, but the thought of the time it would take to mod it really kills it.
>>315334523
I forgot to mention that nearly every perk now has a downside attached to them for extra lolhardcore tedium.
Pick the perk that makes you more accurate with one handed guns? Congrats, you get the same degree of accuracy as a penalty to two handed guns.
Because lolhardcore.
>>315330361
There are goals but the meat and appeal of the mod is to survive.
>>315335225
>I forgot to mention that nearly every perk now has a downside attached to them for extra lolhardcore tedium.
As much as I like this mod, I have to agree this shit is fucking stupid.
Every perk is basically a trait now, and most of the time I actually don't want to level up because the downsides are worse than benefits.
It's fucking stupid when I avoid leveling up and get weaker with each level.
>>315328174
>Start with a shitty .22lr pistol with two bullets as my only weapon
>Go outside
>Immediately get murdered by seven or eight tunnelers
>Repeat
>Go in a different direction
>Get murdered by eleven ghouls
>Repeat
>Go in a different direction
>Immediately get ambushed by five raiders with actual guns AND six or seven tunnelers
>Uninstalled mod afterwards
I know it's supposed to be hard but I wasn't having fun.
>>315337230
fucking this
>use free items starting dlc
>grenade launcher as well as bullets still can't kill the broken perception tunnelers
Where can I read about all of the ways to escape the Mojave?
>>315337230
Maybe you're meant to stealth?
All the more reason to uninstall, stealth in Fallout 3/NV is horriblethat one Old World Blues quest aside.
>>315337610
I did stealth and I still didn't have any fun. Whenever I tried to go anywhere, there were always obnoxiously powerful enemies right in the path of wherever I was trying to get to.
I'm downloading it as I type this.
This better be good.
>mod author is a Fallout 3 kiddie who thinks Fallout is supposed to be a "lol super hardcore realistic" survival simulator
DUST aside, what energy weapon is best?
I'm thinking of doing a handguns-only stealth guy playthrough with Pew Pew as my primary, but I've never really tried out the AER14 or the tri-laser rifle either.
Wat do?
>>315339015
Laser RCW for everyday disintegrating.
Gauss Rifle/Multiplas for Deathclaws and other armoured targets.
A weapon for every situation. That's what hotkeys are for.
>Don't go to bed thirsty. You will die
Dropped. I hate that kind of shit. Too binary.
>>315339362
that's why I also hate most stalker mods. unless in russia it's realistic to both starve to death and die from dehydration because I tried to sleep for 4 hours
>>315339015
Gatling Laser with its mods melts everything in the base game in a couple seconds, so get that for when things go bad
>>315338969
>anon is a frogposting faggot who thinks he's cool and awesome
>>315339670
DUST fan detected.
>serving anyone
top cookie
The best way to play it is to install A World of Pain at the same time and role play the whole underground city as a mean to escape the dying land.
>>315339581
True, but I've already stomped all kinds of shit with the Sprtel-Wood in my heavy weapons guy build.
>>315339858
>Fucking every factions shit up before leaving the Mojave to itself
Yeah no.
>>315339581
>Playing TTW with WMX
>MFW fully modded vengeance and it's 800 damage per seconds
>>315340004
>not rolling a 10 INT 10 CHR courier, playing every major faction until the end, killing lanius, house, and oliver and ruling the mojave with Big MT's tech, your brains, and your charisma
alright senpai
So do you play this mod by itself, or are there others you should add simultaneously?
>>315339015
fully upgraded laser rifle is quite nice, very good for sniping
>>315340004
>fucking every faction's shit up
You can act positively for the majority of the tribal factions - Yes Man leaves that up to you.
NCR was fucking itself and Caesar needed fucking.
>leaving the Mojave to itself
You become House but not entirely fucking Strip-located. House leaves the Mojave for itself. Even NCR are only interested in the Strip and the Dam. Independent addresses the Mojave as a whole.
>>315335068
Weapon mods are exactly what they sound like- it lets you mod weapons already in the game.
If you mean esp-mods, those are new weapons unless specified as a replacer.
Try it- finding, adding, and fixing mods kind of grows on you.
rate my builds
>House run
power armor/energy weapons, cleansed the wasteland of all filth, nuthin personnel tier sociopath who killed the khans, legion, brotherhood, EVERY SINGLE MUTIE, and any ncr faggots that didnt seem to agree with hanlon or tsu
was great fun. destroyed the omertas and the whitegloves but left the tops alone. kings were always good people though, same with the followers
>>315340910
>destroyed the omertas and the whitegloves but left the tops alone
But the Whitegloves are the only Strip tribe that isn't trying to overthrow House's reign. Benny was balls-deep in his plan to fuck House.
>>315341047
he also didn't tell any other tops member about it. They didn't know what was up.
>>315341047
it was a remove scum run, and former cannibals were still cannibals once senpai.
and just because benny was trying to overthrow house doesnt mean the rest of them were. in fact they all seemed pretty oblivious to it
>>315341125
He was the leader of the Chairmen. If you'd destroy the Whitegloves over Mortimer, then the Chairmen have as much to pay for.
>>315339015
Plasma pistol for style.
Hologram rifle for best energy weapon.
Gauss for long-range.
Plus a couple plasma nades for groups.
God I hate the Followers.
Fuck those homos.
>>315339858
>serving the mojave itself instead
Fuck you, pass that shit off to someone else & reap the rewards as you walk away.
>>315341232
>completely innocent people with the bad leader
>tribe of former cannibals comprised of some cannibals led by some former cannibals who arent currently cannibals
>equally innocent
breh...
>>315341239
Wait they made the Gauss Rifle a energy weapon in this game?
>>315339893
Do they actually mesh well?
Or will my autism catch on inconsistencies?
>>315340008
Except you halve that against anything with armor.
>>315341239
>>315341516
I think they did...lemme check.
Yep energy rifle, falls under the energy weapons skill.
Also, add in a pulse gun for robots. Gunslingers can have two pistols.
I think NV quest mods have been somewhat disappointing lately, mainly someguy's.
>all of those fucking mines hidden beneath corpses in almost every fucking cave
>Marko being a boring, letdown hypocrite asshole
I guess I had funslaughtering the saloon full of bounty hunters, but ending it with the Courier going back to the Mojave with psychological scars? What a load.
>>315341420
>comprised of some cannibals
You mean had 1 cannibal and his sociopath lackey lurking within their ranks. That they're horrified to discover.
The Whitegloves were tribals. Every "family" on the Strip are former tribals - Raiders, chemfiends and cannibals that put on suits and acted dapper because House offered them the world.
The Whitegloves are the only ones of the lot that were legitimately grateful and genuinely cleaned up their act, realized how horrible their tribal behaviour was. The ones that attempted to create a culture instead of aping another (or not changing in the fucking slightest, in the case of the Omertas. Can't believe House liked them).
No such thing as a second-chance, huh?
>>315341892
Ah lame, the Gauss was my weaponfu in Fallout 2, what is the best Small Gun now?
>>315342036
House liked the Omertas because they were transparent. You can't trust the Omertas, but you can trust the Omertas to act like Omertas, dig?
>>315341962
Here I thought all the quest mods ate appropriate amounts of dick.
>>315341378
Well Wasteland Jesus still loves you anyway anon.
>>315341662
>Not using GRA optimized ECP
Also, with laser commander and crits.
>>315342126
>small gun
smdh senpai desu
Can you believe there are people who DON'T go with Wildcard on a first run.
>>315341378
Yeah, fuck the one faction that's attempting to build a future instead of fucking everyone over and acting tough.
>>315342281
Steam achievement stats list it as the most popular run.
>>315342242
Oh no Anon, what have they done to the Skill? You are scaring me.
>>315342187
Not all of them are terrible pieces of shit, anon.
>>315342485
Is that Brazil one any good? I haven't really checked a lot of the story mods out. Also what's wrong with the someguy missions? Honest question; I was thinking of installing the bounties mod
>>315341239
>Plasma pistol
>Style.
Jesus. That thing is ugly as fuck. The wattz 2000 Laser pistol will always be the epitome of energy class.
Also pic related is my current modlist. Should I get WMX and any mods that adds loads of weapons?
>>315342684
Brazil is shit and will never be finished, don't bother.
I liked someguys quests, but too each his own I guess.
>>315342126
Tell AM rifle fags to go stick that oversized, overpriced, overhyped piece of shit up their ass.
Pure cheese, Riot shotgun.
Everything else has such a wide variety which are all viable, you can't really say.
If I had to pick one weapon to take through the gameand wasn't good enough to pick something more fashionable, it'd probably be the all-american.
Good DPS, accurate/useful at all ranges, plentiful/cheap ammo with good AP, & WMKs even allow it to be silenced.
>>315342881
>Forget to select the file.
Fuck me.
>>315342881
Missing something anon?
>>315342684
Brazil is unfinished, and it will stay that way. Lots of effort was put into it, but it didn't really click with me.
As for NVB, the first one is pretty simple, with you just being a straight-up bounty hunter. Second gets a little more complicated. Third just pissed me off.
His other mods are pretty good, though. The Inheritance, and Russell are quite fun.
>Literally the laziest mod ever
>Kill off everyone
>Slap the words "Survival Sim" on the title
>Call it a day
fuck off
>>315342881
>Not playing with WMX
Wat
>>315342905
>>315343112
Aight cool. I'll check out someguy's stuff then. Thanks guys
>>315343321
>All those compatibility patches for PN, NVEC, and GBMM.
>>315328174
>Fallout NV tries to compete with Stalker Misery
Is it any good or does it crash just as if not more then Misery?
>>315342965
I'd say the Survivalist's Rifle is better, but I guess the AA would probably be better at long range just because it has the better sights.
They're both really great just for sheer versatility, though.
>>315343457
>Actually installing NVEC
What are you doing, anon?
>>315343516
About as much as Misery.
>>315343152
this
>doesn't even bother to make new NPCs and spawn points
>just renames existing NPCs, maybe edits their inventory, and makes them hostile to the player
>>315343616
I-it looked cool man,I actually didn't really look at the other mods it installed. What's wrong with it?Please no bully.
>>315343893
>eh heh heh heh
Fuck yoooou!
>>315334523
>>315335225
wow you're mad and bad. get gud, this mod is pretty fucking easy if you know what you're doing.
>All enemies have 20 agility or so movespeed default
I see what the problem is now, you got your ass handled by the legion remnant at nipton which are faster than normal. You probably didn't even get past that part (which by the way, is the easiest camp to clear even with shitty gear since it's pretty much the tutorial of the mod) and quit lol.
>>315343893
NVEC have a lot of out of date files and add stuff that stand out like a sore thumb, lore wise. Think World of Pain lore rape * 100.
>never be bothered with using the implants in Project Nevada
>finally get around to using them
>they're pretty good, decide to go all the way
>spend a few hours working on getting the implants
>invest in perks that give more slots
>throw in a couple of extra perks (namely Grim Reaper's Sprint) for good measures
>mfw seeing the end result
All that effort was fucking worth it.
>>315337230
You're supposed to use the ridiculously overpowered throwing spears you can make with the crafting kit until you can find a decent firearm.
>>315342881
Nigger please, that dinky little battery-powered laser pointer looks like a toy.
The plasma pistol is the magnum of the energy pistols.
>>315328174
This sounds interesting maybe I'll check...
>20+ recommended companion mods + mod addons
No thanks.
>>315328174
i'd try it but the latest verison requires GRA, and the old verison which doesnt require GRA has you surronded by tunnelers who endlessly chase you.
would like a release date on project brazil tho
>>315339489
What STALKER mods even do that aside from maybe shitty mods like Misery and Lurk?
Posting best fun from New Vegas
if you dont use project Nevada and Classic fallout weapons you are a faggot
>>315345271
I'll one-up you.
>>315344695
>going full cyborg
Have fun getting EMP'd, faggot.
When deathclaws are now a fun encounter
>>315345271
>that spread
Disgusting.
>>315345667
You're full cyborg when you leave your brain in Big MT.
>>315345819
How about I spread your butt cheeks and we'll see how disgusting that is? :^)
>>315346275
Not even my ass spreads as wide as This Machine anon.
>>315345803
Why is it so ugly?
>>315345667
>Not going full cyborg and becoming the immortal god king of the mojave
Enjoy your old age pains.
>>315345271
>'Murikan-as-fuck m1 garand isn't affected by the grunt perk
This is some shit.
>>315345803
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Grenade_launcher_%28Fallout:_New_Vegas%29
>tfw you realize the holorifle model is just a grenade launcher with lots of laser gun junk on it
>>315340004
>>315341418
>Not playing as the spirit of the west, not letting anyone change the traditions, values, and life of the wasteland
>Not glorifying the wild west in a post-post apocalyptic environment
>Letting the freedom of the west fall to the oppression of NCR, Legion, or House
>Supporting innovation and the rebuilding of civilization and the old world, even if it was what got everyone where they are in the first place
>Not being a radical laser gun toting cowboy
>>315346602
Father Elijah jury rigged a grenade launcher into an energy weapon.
>>315346649
NCR isn't particularly good at oppression, they haven't had the manpower for it since Shady Sands.
Just taxes and incompetence.
>>315346579
>implying a full cyborg is immortal
>he hasn't seen what's become of house
>he's oblivious to the dangers of hacking & EMP shenanigans
Anon, you achieve 70% of a full cyborg's abilities with less than half of their modifications.
>>315334816
Stalker.
And they use it up from their inventories, depriving you of it as well.
>>315347073
>he's oblivious to the dangers of hacking & EMP shenanigans
Well I mean, you live in a world where getting shot is the prime danger. There's not too many Elijahs roaming the wastes.
>>315334816
Deus Ex
>>315346531
It's made of mish-mashed junk Elijah found in Big MT and the Sierra Madre.
>>315346649
>trying to halt progress
>>315334816
MGS3 assuming you blow up their weapon storage shacks.
>>315346649
>>315347015
>Choosing anyone other than NCR
>Fucking over the most morally sound faction in the game
Why? Why do you do these things?
>>315347579
Anarchy fags lapped up Ulysses' shit.
House fags are Ayn Rand fags who ate up House's shit. A couple feel they owed it to him for saving their life.
No one cares what legion fags think.
>>315347579
This.
NCR objectively does the most good for the most people despite its faults according to the ending of the game, until a sequel says otherwise they are the best possible option for the entire foreseeable future.
da burrz win da hooverb owl, deal with it.
>>315347579
I care about the other factions and I refuse to help a fake democracy
>>315347579
The NCR is only interested in the Strip, Helios and Hoover Dam - and even then, only really the Dam.
They don't fuck over the rest of the Mojave like House or Legion, but their shoddy government isn't doing the people no favours.
The best outcome for the Mojave is an independent Vegas with an interest in the Wasteland and an alliance with the NCR. Securitrons have the manpower the NCR don't.
Legion needs killing and House can fuck off.
>>315348382
Oh, other factions? You mean like the Brotherhood? They to need an NCR victory in order to get a good ending.
>>315346649
>>315346649
Furthermore
>Not teaching that the wasteland's hostile conditions bring out the rawest human emotions and show us who we truly are
>Supporting the raising of a generation behind comfy walls away from reality where they will live a false life
>Not believing that the wasteland has values and benefits and is the ideal civilzation through teaching strength of self
>Not being the wasteland Jesus who teaches that societal, cultural, governmental, and technological progress is bad and essentially being a wasteland luddite
>>315348813
those are just worthless raiders
>>315347073
As long my brain is safe at big M I can just hack some upgrades in another lobotomite and use him to walk the mojave, and unlike house I would not be stupid enough to leave my brain protected only by primitive secutitrons.
This would not be real immortality but close enough.
And the lobotomites all look human enough, no one would think to use an emp on them.
>>315348813
Brotherhood are a bunch of autistic twits obsessed with energy weapons.
>This tech is bad in the wrong hands. it could HURT people you know.
>What? Keep the nukes and bullets. I don't give a fuck.
>Seriously, stop trying to give me the nuke or I will shoot you with my energy weapon. Go blow up a town or something.
Glorified cult raiders.
>>315349183
Ending to Old World Blues has your brain refuse to find another chasis.
>>315348429
>Establishing law & order isn't good
>Defending homes & trade isn't good
>Public works projects aren't good
JUST
>killer robots can patrol the whole mojave
>implying you could put more killer robots out there than the NCR could put boots on the ground
Do you think those things grow on trees?
>>315348929
Excuse me I think you dropped this sir.
>>315335068
Project Nevada is probably the best NV mod. I've been trying to find mods that actually add new content or places to explore to keep things fresh, the someguy series bounties are pretty good and A World Of Pain was decent too, but clashes with heaps of stuff. Warzones is decent if you just want people and places to go to and fuck shit up, not really any quests.
This is my modlist
>>315348429
>NCR is only interested in the Dam
Demonstrably false. If you are a savvy Courier then you can get an ending where the NCR continues to help out Primm, the Followers, the Boomers, the Kings, and the Brotherhood.
>>315348429
>their shoddy government isn't doing the people no favours
The ending slides explicitly state that NCR governance brings trade and prosperity to most settlements in the wasteland.
>>315349372
>Ending to Old World Blues has your brain refuse to find another chasis.
Only if you follow the good karma.
And really, its my brain, it will do whatever I want, even help me punch a deathclaw in the face while using light armor because thats fun as fuck.
>>315349665
>implying you could put more killer robots out there than the NCR could put boots on the ground
Well yes, you can. There's a literal army to take control of.
Bandits are running wild, mutated animals run the streets, the Mojave is a mess despite the NCR occupying it for years. They're not bad people, I never said they were - they're just spread entirely too thin.
DUST is fun if you use starter gift gear and focus on only escaping. Else you'll quickly become tedious with the broken and overly plentiful enemies. Don't play on any difficulty higher than normal.
Even then it was a real pain at times. SO MANY fucking monsters in the final stretch. Escaped with no remaining health supplies and maybe a handful of .44 left.
>>315349991
>they're just spread entirely too thin.
As a result of an ongoing war with the Legion. They clean house as soon as Caesar is dealt with.
>>315350189
An *unpopular* war with the legion, I'd add.
Kimball is scraping the bottom of the barrel for funds & supplies.
>>315349665
>wanting to live under a fake democracy with no representation
>murdering tribe after tribe is okay
>taxes that force kids to join the army out of a need to feed their families
>every politician is owned by a rich merchant
what retard would help these people?
>>315349665
>Not having fun with an obviously flawed, but unique and fun character.
I'm totally aware what I said might have been considered edgy, but I dislike this recent notion on /v/ that edgy is inherently bad.
>>315350405
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>315350405
Honestly anon, tribes getting assravaged will happen no matter what.
They'll do it to eachother if no one else does.
NCR is the only faction that even feels a pang of guilt when they do it, and actually tries to avoid it if given a chance as evidenced by the ending slides.
>>315348068
>Anarchy fags lapped up Ulysses' shit.
Independence isn't Anarchy. You're in charge.
>>315351048
Then you might want to consider the NCR, House or Legion routes instead.
>>315350654
They literally say that in the game all the fucking time. The only thing unsubstantiated is the claim that kids have to join the army to feed their families. Don't be a goddamn retard.
>>315351227
People say the same shit about contemporary politicians too.
>>315351112
That's what I'm advocating for anon.
>>315350862
The tribals are all backwards morons squatting on gold mines. These aren't real human societies with hundreds of years of history, these are people whose grand parents were normal, educated people that have regressed to the stone age. They superficially resemble real tribal cultures, but are only different from raiders in that they're in environments that don't require constant violence to survive.
Getting broken-down and absorbed by ascendant societies is better for them, unless generation upon generation of inbreeding and dying due to not even having scavenged medical technology is "noble".
>>315350654
>wanting to live under a fake democracy with no representation
arcade mentions it at several points vegas has a chance at becoming a state with representation but there is no guarantee
>murdering tribe after tribe is okay
cass said that most tribes in the west were rounded up and then there was bitter springs
>taxes that force kids to join the army out of a need to feed their families
O'Hanrahan
>every politician is owned by a rich merchant
just look at kimbly
>>315350862
the three families seem to be doing well
>>315351442
New Canaanites were considered tirbals too.
>3 DLC with the authors explicity telling that independent is the best possible outcome for the mojave
>Best endings for everyone
>Independent is for fags
>>315334816
OFP/ArmA
>>315351742
Authors were also in love with Ulysses and he turned out to be a symbolism obsessed twit.
>>315331679
They look cute. Is there a female one you can waifu?
>>315351227
They say what all the time? That there is no representation? They sure as shit do not. They specifically talk about how Kimball is in trouble because the Mojave operation is becoming more and more unpopular. This isn't an issue if representation doesn't exist. You're thinking of House or the Legion where there is no accountability and the self appointed dictators are free to do whatever they want.
Murdering tribes? Defending yourself against an aggressor is not murder. The "tribes" being referenced here are raider gangs who regularly prey on the helpless. What the NCR is performing here is a police action. The only mistake they made at Bitter Springs and it was exactly that, a mistake. They've since attempted to better themselves. None of this has anything on The Legion. And House will kill the Kings to a man simply for helping set up relief service for Freeside.
>>315351492
Are you seriously going to use three tribes who are living under the shadow of a murder death robot army and of which, one is a pack of cannibals, another is a den of thieves plotting to overturn the death robot army and deliver vegas to the legion, and the last is a den of mostly-honest crooks plotting to overthrow the death robot army and deliver vegas unto themselves, as a case study?
Yeah, those tribes are doing REEAAL GREAT, buddy.
Pinnacle of wasteland civilization right there- a bunch of bloodthirsty cutthroats unsuccessfully held in-check by a heavy-handed draconian babysitter.
What a bright future the Mojave has.
>>315351742
>>3 DLC with the authors explicity telling that independent is the best possible outcome for the mojave
It was their favorite, not necessarily the best.
The actual endings of the game decisively favor NCR, and that's part of why the writers liked the independent route so much; the NCR is steadily becoming so successful that its breaking the entire post-apocalyptic aspect of the setting by making things too idyllic.
>>315346649
Why is it that you fuckers go "THE WORLD BLEW UP BEFORE SO THAT MEANS THE OLD WORLD SUCKED"
The old world was great for most of it's history, but an energy crisis fucked it up.
America was close to cracking it too, they were perfecting fission generators, but the apocalypse obviously halted that.
If the NCR can continue their research, they can literally avoid the one thing that caused the apocalypse. Because aside from the world blowing up, it was a pretty great place.
Not to mention, I don't see how any other form of leadership or government would stop a war over fuel and resources.
>>315352241
The NCR hired a man who said that he had a theoretical degree in physics.
>>315347579
>refuge
Germany detected. New Kek Republic get out.
>>315351978
Anon check yourself.
You can't defend the position that the NCR is merely defending itself- they are expanding.
Pic is the best example in the game.
>>315334523
>>315337230
you're supposed to exploit glitches, AI limitations and broken mechanics. It's that sort of "hardcore" mod
>>315352718
Jesus fucking christ Dust is retarded
>>315349708
If you didn't know, Bounties III is out.
>>315351227
>>315351978
How the hell would taxes compel people to join the army? Unless this is the most regressive tax system ever conceived, this simply isn't possible. It's a percentage. The less you make, the less you pay in. Food costs may very well be high, but this is a separate issue entirely. And NCR tax money is being put toward developments and innovations looking to improve agricultural infrastructure. In the Legion's case, you have no choice in joining or not.
The idea that politicians being bought and paid for is no different from any modern first world government. There might be some truth to it, but it's hardly the full story. If you play your cards right, Hanlon becomes a positive voice for change in the government. And as already stated, public opinion absolutely counts, which is why victory in the Mohave is so essential for Kimball. Regardless, this is monumentally better than a dictatorship which is what you get with the Legion or House.
>>315352483
Why? It doesn't address any of my points.
>>315352616
They absolutely were merely defending themselves outside of the Bitter Springs fuck up. You're talking about something that happens significantly later. And even then it is peaceful relocation, not murder. No where near what the Legion does regularly or what House does to the kings.
>>315352241
Anons aren't very good at thinking, anon.
They'd rather just parrot Ulysses and call it a day.
>>315335225
>>315335509
Colour me curious, are there any examples of especially bad or pants on head retarded downsides?
>>315352902
I love the hoops NCRfags go to defend their precious bullshit
NCR tax money is going to NCR politicians and criminals. The standard of living in NCR territory is shit and specifically because the NCR's shit is corrupt, multiple NPCs say this. The best ideal is for the NCR to leave the Mojave and fix their own problems before trying to scoop up literally all of the territory by force.
>Peaceful relocation
>Literally forcing people off of their land but it's okay because 'it's not as bad'
NCR isn't even a terrible option, but it's sure as fuck not the best.
>exit the starting area
>get surrounded and chased across half of the mojave
>escape the enemies only to be caught by tunnelers
>escape tunnelers by heading towards what i remember being an ncr camp only to get shot by them
>>315353416
Isn't bullshit fun, anon
Isn't this the kind of difficulty you want in your game
>>315352902
>peaceful relocation, not murder
This nigga serious?
>>315349708
Use Mod Organizer noob
Super protip: If you follow the road where you find Veronica, there is a sane gun runners guy that can sell you guns and ammo under one of the overpasses.
>>315353561
I... I kind of do actually. It's painful and difficult in every stupid way possible but I might be having fun.
>>315353382
It's better than House.
And taking charge yourself is foolishness when there are alternatives.
>>315353883
>Taking charge yourself is foolish
So you just don't want to take responsibility. Okay, anon.
>>315353851
Good for you, Anon. If you find anything cool that isn't in the base game come and tell us
>>315353382
>NCR tax money is going to NCR politicians
And of course don't forget all the public works projects and investment in scientific advancement, research and development, etc. But we'll just ignore all that, I guess.
>and criminals
What?
>The standard of living in NCR territory is shit
What the fuck are you talking about? There is literally nothing in any Fallout game that would support this. NCR is easily the most developed of any faction in the series.
>Literally forcing people off of their land but it's okay because 'it's not as bad'
Um, yes. That's exactly right. Did you think this was an argument claiming NCR was the paragon of all that's right and good in the world? This is an argument demonstrating that despite the NCR's shortcomings it still does literally everything better than anybody else. It's better developed, there is greater representation, it is more fair and less arbitrary. The problems are meaningless when you consider the alternatives.
>but it's sure as fuck not the best.
How do you figure?
>>315353745
Why that rather than FOMM or NMM?I use NMM, which for some reason people seem to dislike.
>>315354060
>one guy can save the Mojave because he has robots
>the largest and most developed faction in the wasteland with nearly a 100 years of stable existence cannot
Sure thing, buddy.
>>315339015
Project Nevada's Tesla Rifle Prototype for medium to long (sniping) range.
Laser RCW for short range; it's basically a mini Gatling Laser.
(Recharger Pistol as a backup weapon in case you run out of ammo.)
>>315354060
>wanting to shackle yourself to the shithole that is NV and the mojave wasteland
>not wanting to wander the countryside righting wrongs and remaking the continent as you see fit
Honestly anon, squandering the courier's death-god capabilities with the tedium of bureaucracy & sovereign rulership is such an unpalatable waste.
Your courier really should look out for themselves more.
>>315354415
To be fair, the courier is kind of a superhuman.
It's entirely possible to hit 10s & 8s in all your stats, and become a master of all skills.
A guy like that could do just about anything.
>>315354316
Because you can very, very, VERY easily revert a wrong move. A huge ass X overhaul that weights 2GB can be removed from the installation with a simple Delete=>Enter and the game would not have even a file left behind. For an inexperienced modder (like me) this is just god-sent.
About NCR debate:
I could easily take corruption (low to medium) over madness (Legion, I don't think I've killed humans in any other games with such joy, excepts germans in WW2 games) and private interests that can easily be converted to oligarchy/dictatorship. There is no system really that don't have corruption, anyone that says that is lying
>>315354231
The cattle baron is clearly a criminal and no one cares because he has numerous politicians in his pocket, and his expansion and takeover of small ranchers helps the NCR in their goal to take over everything. This is clearly fucking stated in the game during the White Glove quests, you fucking retard.
There are bandit attacks everywhere in NCR territory and one of the cities they FOUNDED in is a complete shithole that breeds violent lunatics like Razz. Razz says this, Cass says this. Cass says that they cannot afford to protect their own territory and yet continue to invade other territories.
>When you consider the alternatives
Why the fuck do you retards always ignore Independent?
>>315354783
FOMM can do that shit too, but it's a lot more old school than Mod Organizer.
>>315354707
He would still be better off putting those superhuman skills to work in the NCR. There's no reason to build something from scratch when a perfectly functional system already exists. This was House's problem. He could have been an extremely influential individual inside the NCR. But he snubbed every single attempt at diplomacy and cooperation and it's what got him killed in the end.
>>315354975
>Why the fuck do you retards always ignore Independent?
Because it makes no hard fact claims about outcomes. You just get to pull shit out your ass and imagine how your special snowflake courier would fix all the problems and right all the wrongs. That's boring. There's nothing to talk about there, so who gives a shit?
>>315354993
FOMM installs in Data folder overwriting shit, in Mod Organizer EVERY file in a mod is in its own directory, with you deciding what will have priority over what, seeing what overwrites are there, etc
In FOMM/NMM everything is being overwritten, makes me pray to God for MO's creator that he created it, I just don't want to remember the black days before it
>uninstalled new vegas a few days ago
>want to give this a try before FO4
fuck
>tfw a sucker for NCR because Fallout 1&2
they just deserve it after all that time, man
>start dust
>get to a highway and find four survivors with brahmin walking around
>steal a weapon off of one, kill them all
>fully equipped, armed and prepared with food
>>315355567
Don't fuck your lore-iness with survivalist over-difficult shit like this
r8?
>>315339015
Pew Pew is the most ridiculous energy weapon in the game.
Holorifle is good.
YCS 186 is also excellent.
the Plasma Caster deals good damage but it's a pain in the ass to keep repaired, and slow bolts means that fighting outside VATS is a bit annoying.
>>315354975
>The cattle baron is clearly a criminal
And? What does this have to do with your claim that NCR tax money is being funneled to criminals?
>one of the cities they FOUNDED in is a complete shithole that breeds violent lunatics like Razz
The fuck are you talking about? The NCR did not found the Boneyard. The Boneyard was there since Fallout 1. They incorporated it, changed the name and substantially improved it's living conditions. It's pretty much entirely rebuilt now. These are known facts. That it isn't 100 percent perfect and fuck ups like Razz can still show up doesn't mean that the NCR is tearing apart at the seams.
>Css says that they cannot afford to protect their own territory and yet continue to invade other territories.
No, she doesn't. She says they can't protect Mojave caravans on account of the ongoing war with the Legion. There is no indication that there are any security issues in NCR proper at all. There's a reason all the major raider gangs have been pushed into the Mojave. The NCR has cleared out the major threats. They even have a police force as seen in Fallout 2.
>>315356215
tldr/10
>>315356215
>nexus mod manager
>>315356257
>the Plasma Caster deals good damage but it's a pain in the ass to keep repaired
Always do Dead Money as your first DLC for a heavy weapons build, you won't get gear but you'll have infinite repair kits.
>>315345271
Medicine Stick, man. It's disgusting how great it is.
>>315355294
>He would still be better off putting those superhuman skills to work in the NCR. There's no reason to build something from scratch when a perfectly functional system already exists. This was House's problem
Yes, this was house problem and it will be the courier problem, they don't want some wasteland trash telling them what to do, neither the ncr or the legion have any desire to keep the courier around once they got their hands on hoover dam.
Why would they need him or even listem to what he has to say once they have what they want?
>Because it makes no hard fact claims about outcomes. You just get to pull shit out your ass and imagine how your special snowflake courier would fix all the problems and right all the wrongs.
I have no desire to fix anything for the ncr and the legion, I rather bomb both of them back to the depths of hell and recreate the mojave in the way I want.
After working so hard to get the power to rule the mojave I would never do something so naive as to trust the ncr or legion not to fuck me over.
Its a shame the game does not allow you to nuke every single ncr/legion city.
>>315356453
I guess, but I like resilient weapons even if I have an infinite supply of repair kits. With jsawyer.esp I have very little carry capacity, and I want to loot as much as possible.
Also opening the menu often to repair is annoying. This is why I dislike the LAER, even though it shits on every other weapon in the game in terms of damage.
>>315356314
I think the security issues thing comes from the comparison to legion territory, where the bandits have been wiped out to a man & Caesar rules with an iron fist.
>>315356556
>Its a shame the game does not allow you to nuke every single ncr/legion city.
avellone detected
>>315356623
Why not use PN to change values to what jsawyer does and e.g. increase carry capacity?
And ontopic, why hadn't you already picked jury rigging?
>>315356827
Jury Rigging don't do shit for most heavy weapons, and as broken as it is it still can't save the LAER from falling apart after every shot.
>>315356314
>The NCR has cleared out the major threats
Then why the fuck do both she and the Legion trader both bring up the fact that Legion territory is almost completely free of raiders if the exact same thing is true for NCR territory? What would be the point in the contrast?
>Razz, a person who lived there, says the place is a shithole
>"Nah it's not a shithole"
I'll take the only authority we've got on the Boneyard in New Vegas over your claims, sorry.
>What does this have to do with that?
The politicians are helping him so that they can scoop up more territory for the NCR, in exchange he gets more farms and profit.
>>315356827
PN doesnt change everything jsawyer does, on top of player stats reworked a lot of armor/weapon/item weights are changed with jsawyer, all for the better imo.
jury rigging is also the greatest perk in the game and can get rid of the need for barter entirely with the sheer amount of shit you can fix up and sell.
>repair a thermic lance to 100 with a pool cue
>>315356827I don't think jury rigging is that great
I normally play characters with light armor, so repairing armor is simple. Weapon Repair Kits makes weapon repair trivial.
With a Plasma Caster(or most types of end game weapons) you'll very rarely find something in the field that matches something you have.
Jury Rigging can be used to accumulate dosh, but who needs money in new vegas?
As for the carry weight thing, I kinda like not being able to loot everything I see.
>>315356556
>Why would they need him or even listem to what he has to say once they have what they want?
The fuck are you talking about? NCR already controls Hoover Dam.
They attempted to engage in talks with House because they aren't comic book villains bent on total subjugation of anything and everything they come across. The Mojave ambassador logs make it clear that the NCR was very open to peaceful diplomacy with House, but he constantly refused any attempt at talks.
>>315356556
I really hope this guy has just been baiting us this whole time.
>I'll nuke my neighbors, that'll show everyone how superior I am!
>>315344695
>Project nevada implants
I have completed TTW and regular new vegas multiple times but have never found these things.
>>315356556
>Why would they even listen to what he has to say
Because he still owns New Vegas, which is one of the biggest revenue streams in the New World, and has an army of unstoppable killer robots to enforce his edicts. This is the Wasteland- peace is attained through power and the Courier at the end of independent has ALL of it
>>315357164
do you have pn cybernetics turned on
theyre little white boxes in various places around the world and also available with some vendors
>>315344695
current char has nanobionic weave in every limb, fully upgraded razor nails in each hand, fully upgraded weight absorbers in each leg
the subdermal armor, synthetic lungs, strength and agility implants in the torso
and vision enhancer, scanner module, luck and perception implants in the head
i used the extra options mod to get the implant slot perks for free, all you have to do is find every implant for every body part in the mojave. i think theyre better earned that way then fucking spent on with level perks
>>315357597
>razor nails
Do you niggers even think about what you're doing to your characters?
Jesus show some discretion.
>>315357019
>Then why the fuck do both she and the Legion trader both bring up the fact that Legion territory is almost completely free of raiders if the exact same thing is true for NCR territory? What would be the point in the contrast?
Because Cass and Dale Barton work in the Mojave. They are specifically talking about how the NCR has not/will not commit additional troops to caravan protection. Whereas the Legion doesn't need to commit any troops because they're so monstrous that any caravans marked with their sign will be passed over lest any marauders suffer their ire.
This doesn't change the fact that the reason the NCR can't commit troops to caravan escorts is because they're in a war with the Legion. It also doesn't change the fact that the Legion itself is responsible for a number of these caravan attacks.
The game makes it very clear that the NCR dealt with all major raider gangs and that's why you only see their remnants hanging out in NCR frontier like the Mojave.
>I'll take the only authority we've got on the Boneyard in New Vegas over your claims, sorry.
It's a known fact, brother.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Boneyard
>The politicians are helping him so that they can scoop up more territory for the NCR, in exchange he gets more farms and profit.
Helping him, how? Please be specific in how tax money is being used to fund his alleged criminal activities.
>>315355761
>implying lore matters in FO4
>>315358092
that sounds extremely painful.
just posting the best unarmed weapon in the game
two-step goodbye and pushy fags go home
>>315358226
ive got big iron
>>315358067
I'm not talking about Fallout lore-iness, this type of mods are a different genre
>>315331302
I did
they just threw tunnelers everywhere
>>315358495
>implying FO4 isn't in a different genre from NV
>implying FO4 is an rpg and not a sandbox shooter
>>315358505
not this fag but pic is from my DUST playthrough
starting out was shit but it kept me interested for a while. i declined the mccarran vertibird after slaughtering the whole base and then stopped and never picked up that playthrough again
it was pretty fucking buggy too, i hated the sanity system.
>>315352046
those 3 tribes are thriving and the white gloves are for the most part former cannibals
>>315358287
>doesn't work with paralyzing fist
real best unarmed weapon incoming
>>315358287
Is it just me or do the attack animations for power fists in general feel really awkward and clunky?
>>315334150
>>315334367
>Wendie
That's not what i think it is, is it?
>>315361026
everything is awkward and clunky, it's bethesda.inb4 hur dur FNV is obsidian
>>315360907
>using Love and Hate with WME
>that fucking speed
>all those crits
The fucking best.
>>315361135I wouldn't worry about it
>>315361531
I have about 57 mods installed and I have trouble making the game function. I have all the stuff to make it function better, like 4GB and anti-crash.
Is it me or does this game have a really low threshold for what you can install? I downloaded mostly companion and quest mods, but apparently that's really hard for the game to handle.
>>315362036
You do have NVSE, right?
Because my computer is a piece of shit that has over 110 mods installed, and it runs just fine.
>>315358287
This is the real best unarmed weapon of the game.
https://youtu.be/WO6PmeBE8zA
>>315362036
Merge mods my good man.
>>315362148
Yeah. I mean, could it be that you just have a lot of really small files? I mostly have bigger shit like Autumn Leaves and the SomeGuy series.
>>315362551
I do have some fairly large mods installed.
But yeah, do what this guy said.
>>315362514
And show us your mods and load order while you're at it.
What I really wish they'd do is go back and add steam work shop to FO3 and NV.
>>315358287
>>315360907
>>315362429
Speaking of unarmed, is just plain hands viable? I want to be Kenshiro
>>315362730
Why? Steam workshop doesn't even add mods correctly.
>>315334816
The Last of Us
>>315362789
Plain hands is viable if you are playing with Project Nevada and use the razor nails implants.
>>315362873
just makes it easier
>>315362789
Vanilla game? It can be with the right perks, since almost everyone you hit will get knocked over and you will be free to kick the crap out of them while they're down.
But it's tedious as fuck.
>>315363107
Workshop is utter garbage. You can't use wyrebash or anything on workshop mods for skyrim, so you get constant incompatibility
>>315363107
Just straight on downloading it into your files with no regard for a stable load order or possible incompatibilities isn't very convenient anon. More often than not, you'll have to go in the game files and tweak things yourself if you go that way.
Organizers are the only way to go, anon.
>>315363273
I'm not adding 50 plus mods to my game
>>315334816
no reason why dust shouldn't, there's a fucking checkbox on weapons that make the NPCs use up ammo
in a mod like dust it should be on everything, there's no excuse
>>315363107
It's just astonishing that there are retards that can't properly install mods manually.
Like I don't understand how you can be that stupid.
Is the mod alone fun enough on it's own or should I install the gazillons tons of mod they reccomend on the mod page?
Cheers.
Alright, which is better, WME or WMX??
>>315363414
Oh, I can, I just don't want to do it that way if there's an easier way.
>>315363356
And how is this any different? You'd still have to go though those steps downloading from Nexus. At least with the work shop the files are put in the folder, then you can run your organizer.
With Nexus you have to sign up, download their program, open their program, find the mod, copy the link to the program, queue the download though their program, run the organizer, move files, etc etc.
With steam I click a few buttons and it's done.
Now, if Nexus made it viable to search mods in the program and made it as easy as steam, then I'd use it.
