Why do you guys dislike this fight again? Too hard for you?
>>315299345
Who said they dislike it? It's pretty good
>>315299345
>tons of hp
>attacks require individual jump timings of both the bros
>attacks require you to pay attention to both screens
>the camera is actually obstructed by the attacks half the time, especially around the second half
>spamming mix flowers is a fun fight
I thought she was a good final boss. Then again she has less HP in the EU version, so she's probably more tedious in the US one.
>>315299596
>spamming mix flowers is a fun fight
I remember using copy flowers more because I found them easier to use for good damage.
>>315299596
>Spamming mix flowers
Youre spamming top tier bro items/attacks in every mario bros rpg boss battle.
>>315299345
if hard = too much hp then yes
>IF YOU DON'T LIKE BOSSES HAVING TEN BILLION HEALTH SND TAKING TWO HOURS TO CHIP AWAY AT YOU'RE JUST A CASUAL!
>>315299596
Literally the only valid complaint you have is her having a retarded amount of HP
>>315302274
>the final boss should be 5 minutes long
Really?
>>315302949
Never said that m8, try again. Just try to defend this boss fight. I insist.
>>315299345
>The music alone
Felt amazing when I finally finished the game after a few years.
>>315299345
This fight took me a solid hour, most of which was spent spamming bro items with the badge that gives you infinite uses
I was horribly underleveled, but stil...
>Peach gets transformed into a shroob midfight
Muh dick, videogames never fail to cater to my inanimate TF fetish.
>>315299345
Tried to replay PiT recently and it's not just the final boss, even the normal enemies have a ton of HP. They probably thought it would have balanced out the damage from the babies even though the babies deal shit for damage.
Might restart and play the EU version some time.
>>315303950
Give the babies only ATK, it's all that matters for them.
I replayed this recently, too. It wasn't that bad, but the massive amounts of HP and shitty bro items with no MP was pretty bad.
>>315299345
>Americans are so casual they can't beat PiT
lmaoing @ your country desu senpaitachi
>>315304413
The EU version was easier though
You Americans got screwed on this boss
for some reason, they increased her HP in the USA release, but lowered other stats in return.
EU and JP share the same stats and they are much more reasonable
I purposely went in completely underleveled, having only killed nothing but bosses and run away from everything else. Took me a half hour spamming Copy and Mix Flowers. Couldn't get hit once because each attack would pretty much one-shot either bro.
Never had trouble with this boss at all.
While some of the attacks are hard to dodge, it makes sense because it's the final fucking boss of the game.
Mix Flowers ensure all of her goes down quickly.
>>315303889
What? No she doesn't. She gets knocked out when big burtha transforms. It's still a shitty ass fight and Partners in time remains the worse M and L of the franchise followed closely by Dream Team but Paper may take that crown with how shitty it already sounds.
The shroobs are the most uninteresting villains in anything ever
At least the vampire thing from Dream Team talked
>>315304768
Yes, she does. Look it up.
>>315305049
I don't think they were that bad. They still have personality, at least they aren't Bowser in Sticker Star tier.
>>315299345
She's a fucking damage sponge.
And the way they introduced her was shoddy
>oh shit the main antagonist had a big sister that's twice as bad!
>>315305098
Nope.
>>315306350
Are you actually blind? She's a shroob right there. She's just a different color.
>>315306743
You for real? She's just laying on the ground.
>>315306946
Top right.
>>315305049
Pretty much.
Them being so bland also made the "OMG there is actually a second princess!" twist completely pointless.
>>315307654
Exactly. She's laying on the ground face down.
>>315308141
She's a shroob dude. Why do you think she stops helping you?
>>315308378
Because she fainted? Hence why she's laying on the ground?
>>315299345
you're first go around, she has two forms which total up to more than 7500 HP. You're doing a maximum of 400 per turn, maybe 500 if you get lucky. Don't forget you have to damage her appendages to even hurt her which each have 500-1000 HP and regenerate.
the boss take like almost 2 hours to beat, where the series beforehand, bosses maybe lasted 15 minutes at the most.
>>315307654
>top right
That's her on the ground
Can't you see the crown on her head?
Dreamy Bowser is worse
Remember that time when M&L were literally shat out by a giant obese Yoshi?
ahah
>>315308957
Not at all.
He has only 2500 HP, which is much lower than 7500 HP. Yeah he regenerates health but even without the Zeekeeper skill and even if you somehow end up underleveledyou can thow a taunt ball at him to get him to kill all of his minions easily.
Don't forget that you can do tons of damage even without Zeekeeper.
>>315309374
>you can thow a taunt ball at him to get him to kill all of his minions easily
Damn I didn't know that.
The fight isn't hard anyway. The only attack hard to avoid is when he chases you breathing fire.
>>315308378
I think you've already realized you're retarded but aren't willing to admit it.
PiT was great, just disappointingly short. The final boss being a bummer didn't help.
>>315299345
I still can't understand why people had a hard time with it. Even with the difficulty explained by some anons, it's not that bad.
Cackletta is better.
>>315299596
>Complaining that the final boss uses the games mechanics to the max
There were individual jump timings in the last boss of SSS too.
>tfw tragically underleveled because you just ran away from fights the whole game
>make it to the princess
>hard as shit
>finally beat her
>reach the second princess
>get my shit beaten in
>it has a third form
>to this day have never beaten M&L2
I just think a save point between the two would have been nice
>>315309145
The music in that dungeon was so good.
>>315309608
It was kinda shit tbch.
This alien reference was literally the best thing about the game.
>>315304578
>for some reason, they increased her HP in the USA release, but lowered other stats in return
I wish people would stop saying that. The game was released in the US first. EU and JP's changes were an afterthought. US version is essentially the beta test.
The amount of HP she had was ridiculous. Besides that, I liked the fight.
>>315299345
Boss was pretty easy if I recall, long and tedious, but I beat it on my first try.
She just wasn't very memorable or exciting as the final bosses of SS and BiS.
I beat this boss when I was just a kid, you people need to git gud
I enjoyed the choice of music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o76EF9HncVs
>>315311530
Except only one person said they couldn't beat it and it was because he was underleveled as fuck.
The fight is just long and tedious.
>when you run out of flowers
sweet mercy
>>315313613
Fuck, why is the art style so much better than in DT?
>>315299596
>>315309869
You forgot
>Right before this is another pre-final boss that with lots of HP and bullshit attacks and shields and spawning enemies
>If you beat that boss and use any items guess what there's a harder boss
>No saving in-between
>Both bosses have multiple phases
>Last boss has an instant kill attack and a timer bomb mechanic
>If you're not literally max level this fight is hell on Earth
>If you die you start over from before the pre-final boss
>No skipping dialogue or cutscenes
>>315313773
because thats your opinion
>>315313773
huh, they're just
different
>>315313773
Because DT looks good in motion but like some DKC nightmare in screenshots
>>315299345
>People actually had trouble with this fight
Mario rpg's are fun and all but their easy as shit. Dodging or timing to avoid damage should be easy by now and you should have plenty of items to heal urself up.
>mfw I lost my Dream team copy a year ago and haven't had the money to replace it
at least I can play it once I do get it to fill the void of that new Paper Mario crossover Nintendo is shitting out
If only DT didn't bombard you with tutorials.
>>315311817
Been awhile since I've played PiT but fuck I still remember it having a good ass final boss music.
>>315299596
Tons of HP and fuck long turns/counterattacks are the real problems
RPG fights shouldn't take best part of an hour to beat (Which Elder Shroob can easily do if you're not Pitch-Perfect with the Mix or Copy flowers
