>Nobunaga is always portrayed as a bad guy
Why do the japanese hate Nobunaga?
>>292984201
Because he's a cool guy.
I don't think they hate him but he wasn't exactly the kindest guy in Japan at the time.
>>292984784
But other warlords from that time are seen with respect even though they were just shittier then Nobunaga
>>292985339
Wow, jealousy much?
>>292985713
>tfw no-one remembers you
For the same reason people portray this guy as a bad guy. There were rulers more brutal than him and he had to find a way to stop the turks because the Pope personally asked him to fight against them. Everything bad said about him were rumors and propaganda spread by saxon traders, whom he banned from his principality because they were jewing out the romanians.
>>292985968
Alright but who were the Saxon Traders for Nobunaga?
>>292985968
>>292984201
well to be honest when these two started taking shit over they just magically became gigantic cunts
>>292984201
he introduced guns into traditional warfare.
Whereas wars previous to Nobunaga's tactics centered on face-to-face combat, Nobunaga introduced the concept of trapping and killing from a distance or in firing squads that take turns, in order to keep up the assault.
Even though he eventually died, he still brought these new and brutal tactics to warfare and they couldn't just be un-introduced. So he's often shown as a villain or evil in fiction because of this.
>>292985968
>Dracula become a vampire
>Nobunaga becomes a demon
It's like poetry
>>292984201
He was reverse-weeaboo and brought in lots of western practices and inventions like the gun, which rendered MAH NOBLE SAMURAI redundant.
>>292986431
This.
Also because he was generally against tradition, and even today being against tradition will mark you as an abomination in Japan.
>>292986536
>>292986728
also notable given that image there, he often wore more western style armor, which is also very against tradition
>>292986431
>>292986643
>>292986728
>tfw hated for just upping the level of competition
>>292986403
Not the saxon traders per se, but the propaganda spread around it. Sometimes completely horrific, retarded rulers get beatified, sometimes extremely competent rulers get demonized.
It's the rules of history.
Also the saxon traders jewed out so hard that they convinced the king of hungary that Vlad was secretly an ottoman sympathizer and got him to arrest him. You know, the guy who got beat up his entire childhood by turks while he was a hostage and who impaled 20000 of their numbers then tried to assassinate the sultan.
He's class in Civ V, Japan should show some respect.
>>292986728
I think this is the main issue. Tradition is just too important for the Japanese. He was pretty much dishonorabru and that's probably where all the hate comes from.
Nobunaga best unifier.
>>292986431
>>292986643
>>292986728
Wow, japs are a bunch of faggots.
>>292984201
why is there a robot in the sengoku era?
>>292986536
I prefer his representation in Sengoku Basara 3, sword+shotty.
>>292987164
>not Toyotomi "Bald Rat" Hideyoshi
>>292987415
because Sengoku Basara took a more anime-spin to the Sengoku period. Honda just happened to wear some pretty heavy armor.
>>292987418
>finally unlocking Nobunaga
Tearing shit up as Nobunaga was fun as hell
Because he had no Honor.
>>292985968
Bad Vlad
Skanderberg is cool as fuck too. Feigning conversion to Islam
>>292986403
>>292986403
The Buddhists, just like the papacy in europe, the buddhists of the time were more about power than religion. Nobunaga struck them down and burned their temples earning him the name "Demon Lord"
>>292987840
That man leaped for the moon and landedflat on his fucking face with a bunch of peasants kicking the shit out of him
>>292985968
>>292986536
vlad the impaler vs Nobunaga deathmatch when
>>292987164
What's that? Sorry, I couldn't hear you over MY FUCKING SHOGUNATE.
Even your shitty ass student Hideyoshi couldn't rule all of fucking Japan for 2 fucking decades.
>>292988192
>le sit and wait man
Meme ruler
>>292988192
Oh Please, you are as bad as that Sima Yi guy, making your move after the big boys have been out of the picture.
nobunaga pounded the rice
hideyoshi baked the cake
tokugawa ate the cake
>>292986728
so he was a SJW liberal kabuto tipper?
>>292988359
>>292988315
It's cool guys, hey, how about you show me your Shogunate that lasted for 250+ years?
Oh wait.
>>292987224
same you see in western literature. For example in the story of the death of achilles in the war of troy. Paris (who stole Helena) was a pussy who just fucked helena while his brother was keeping troy from getting run over along with fellow warriors. In the end apollo helps paris out in killing achilles by using a bow (which is a weapon less honorable than a sword since you arent face to face) and using a poisoned arrow (poison being the most absolute faggot weapon). So even in literature dickass tactics were used by pussy/evil characters. Japanese just applied the same on a guy who actually did it in real war
>>292988402
>>292988527
Nobunaga - Little bird if you will not sing I'l kill you
Toyotomi - Little bird if you will not sing I'l coax you into singing
Tokugawa - Little bird if you will not sing I'l sit here like and wait for you to die because I'm a giant asshole who rode the wave of everyone elses achievements
>>292988547
Paris is such a faggot...
>>292984201
>>292985968
>They almost look the same
What if Nobonuga didn't die and went to Transylvania and became Vlad Tepes.
Anyone here actually study history in school and not talking out their ass here? Wikipedia is a shit source, btw
>>292988767
>Nobunagas body was never found in the flames of the castle
>was excessively cruel
Coincidence ? I don't think so
>>292988192
Wait does he have a dick hat or what
>>292988767
>>292988875
>>292984201
Wasn't Nobunaga a pedo?
>>292988767
It's the other way around, Vlad is from the 15th century and Nobunaga from the 16th
Not always
>>292988418
Well, he did make a black guy a samurai.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke
>>292988818
Not sure what you're looking for?
No-one is exactly dropping massive historic bombs in here just talking about how certain figures from history are seen in the modern day
>>292988878
No. Look up Kanmuri
>>292988875
>>292988767
Could Nobunaga be still alive?
>>292989093
"AH BLAH BLABLA AH BLA BLA BLA ABLABLABA SDFksdgnsdgfh"
fucking anime
>>292989124
So it's basically a dick hat
>>292988878
shinto hat called the "Kanmuri"
>>292989108
>made him scrub his skin thinking it was paint
Every time
>>292989127
Did we never did see Tepes and Mozart in the same place
>>292988748
its amazing he managed to get hard to fuck helena.
>>292989093
>No S2
Brb suicide
>>292986431
>>292986728
>against tradition will mark you as an abomination in Japan.
>japan still okay with mozaic censor that forced by westerner
i will never understand this one
>>292988734
Mitsunari please go.
Or did you remember the time you tried to kidnap one of my generals' wife to get him to join you?
>>292988118
Fuck you, now I want to see this shit and I just know it will literally never happen
>>292989127
>yfw Nobunaga just wanted to peace out and pretending to perish in the flames and fulfilled his dreams of exploring Europe and the Western world
>>292988024
He didn't feign conversion, asshole. He was a Janissary. He was indoctrinated from childhood.
>>292989425
Changing porn censorship laws would require a Japanese politician to go down in history as the guy who did it.
>muh honor
>>292986431
This is not true. Guns were in use 20 years before Nobunaga came. He was the first to use them to gain the upper hand on the battlefield.
Check Nagashino battle, or watch Kagemusha.
>>292989510
>Nobunaga runs away from japan to explore europe
>Gets caught up in medieval wallachian politics during an ottoman invasion
>Stumbles his way into rulership and actually does a pretty good job
>Until he loses one battle and gets decapitated
Poor guy can't catch a break.
>>292989510
>yfw he could be lurking 4chan right now
>yfw he could be a shitposter
>>292989505
Pretty good chance it happened in one of the F/SN side materials.
>>292989505
Wasn't there this shitty game being made where it had both Nobunaga and Vlad Tepes in it?Only reason I'm saying it's shitty is because they're all girls and they don't even look cute.
>>292986643
Every clans had guns at the heyday of Nobunaga though. They didn't introduce western practices, pikemen were already largely used, they just replaced bows by guns and every clan did that !
Nobunaga had a personal gun factory, this is a change. He was overall better at gun tactics too, but that's really about it.
It's true that it largely favored big numbers of ashigaru but that's primarily because he couldn't field as much samurai as the other clans.
>>292988547
>ancient greece
>western
eh. those are simply ancient stories. something more comparable would be the church trying to ban crossbows because could reliable take down armored knights, for example.
>>292987129
He was also taking rich provinces from his best generals and giving them to his family.
>>292984201
Because when you're the figurehead of a unification movement, for better or ill, that's good villain material. He took over the country, it's a great antagonistic move.
>>292989748
Next thing you'll be tell me is Mozart is still alive.Wait.... could it be..?
>>292989764
>Game about historical rulers as girls
Let me guess, it's japanese.
>>292989748
Of course he isn't.
Also Mitsuhide was a dick, Nagamasa was a bitch and Hisahide was a fag.
>>292989748
>yfw Nobunaga made this thread
>>292989629
It's the same shit why all gambling, pachinko being the only exception, is still banned in Japan. That's one area they're actually trying to pass a legislation to make it legal because they can tax it, though. Uncensoring porn would make no difference in grand scheme of thing and there's no one who's going to stand up for it in the first place.
>>292989964
>nobunaga typing on his konpyuuta.jpg
>>292989941
You guessed it.
>>292990068
You have the name?
>>292989008
>Implying that you wouldn't fuck Ranmaru too.
>>292989790
He was first guy in Japan that had idea to use gunmans in 3 lines. One line reload, second shoots, third is getting ready. This destroyed the strongest cavalery in Japan.
>>292989790
>Every clans had guns at the heyday of Nobunaga though.
They did, but like you said he was the one who actually made effective military use of firearms and made everyone else do the same by rocking the status quo boat in Japan.
>>292989632
This is just false. The takeda had just as much guns as the oda, but the takeda heir had the cunning of a sardine. Guns didn't win Nagashino by themselves, there was a large footmen and cavalry charge by the Oda and the Tokugawa right after the shooting and this is what decimate most of the takeda.
Kagemusha is great though...
>>292990110
Nope, but it looked really awful.
>>292990127
And pretty much made one of the strongest clans into paste.
>>292989941
You seen that one with the Eldritch Elder God girls? Or the one with Warship girls? Or the one with the Chinese Warring States girls?
I could do this all day, and they all actually exist too.
>>292989008
Everyone was a nonce in olden days.
>>292989518
He remembered enough to pretend and convert back
>>292989964
>Nobunaga shilling himself on /v/ just to salvage his reputation
Yess good gaijin, I'm- I mean, Nobunaga is totarry dead and was a honoraburu nipponji to the end.
>>292990127
Katsuyori's stupidity destroyed the strongest cavalry in japan just as much as nobunaga's guns.
>>292990000
except pachinko is banned as gambling. However there is a construction in that you can play it for free, you just have to purchase the balls to actually play it in another store (which is conveniently next to the pachinko centre). And they constantly pull back and forth in politics to further ban it or let it be as is
>>292989008
Wasnt there a rumors that he was fucking young boy or something? Ranmaru i think?
>>292990268
When are we getting a game about the american revolution where all the founding fathers are little girls?
>>292989941
FOUNDING FATHERS ANIME WHEN
>>292984201
>>292985968
It's the mustache that is evil, not the man.
>>292990324
>Nobunagas face when he realized he got caught out
You know who were real cunts? The motherfucking Mongols.
>>292990178
>Takeda Shingen became a "god of war" because he had a copy of Sun Tzu's Art of War and actually used advanced tactics
>all downhill from there
History giveth and it doth taketh away.
>>292990373
>rumor
He was.
>>292990324
If anyone did that it would be Cao Cao.
Because Nobunaga was an evil warlord granted technology by the devils of another universe.
>>292989764
I do know a game where romance of the 3 kingdoms is shown, with all generals being girls (which you all bone)
>>292990373
Dude, there were rumors of boy fucking about every single ruler. From ancient greece to the 18th century, "fucking a young boy" was the go-to political slandering tactics by writers who didn't actually interact with the ones they were writing about or even lived during their reigns.
No when I am his vassal.
>>292987224
>sudden the thin crust collapses and he is swallowed into hellfire
>>292990594
Except it actually happened with Nobunaga.
And it was actually pretty ok for its time.
You want to talk about some shit? Let's talk about fucking Cao Cao.
>>292984201
>being so evil you're actually the villain in a pokemon game
All Nobunaga apologists please go
>Remember reading an interview with the guys who made Onimusha/Onimusha 2
>Guy gets asked the obvious question: If Nobunaga's so great, why is he the ultimate final boss
>Response starts with "Well, he was a great man, like Abraham Lincoln was to America..."
>>292990486
>>292990486
It wasn't Genghis Khan's idea to sack Baghdad.
>>292990638
>not making your own Honno-ji Incident
>>292990660
I thought Takeda Shingen is considered to be the ultimate badass of the sengoku.
>>292984201
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V1AEvN8VZs
Wakamoto Nobunaga best Nobunaga
>>292984201
Because he's isn't as cool as Masamune Date
>>292984201
same with hitler. he was too cool for his time and people were jelly.
>Nobunaga's face when the mods ask him about his constant shitposting
>>292990728
>tfw no game with Abe as the final boss.
>>292990724
>Cao Cao looks like Nobunaga looks like Vlad Tepes
HOW DEEP DOES IT GO
>>292984201
Too ambitious.
>>292990724
>>292990726
The warrior monks of Mt. Hiei were a longstanding threat to Kyoto and so invasive in politics an Emperor of Japan allegedly said he had no power over them. The reason why they came to blows with Nobunaga was because they aligned with his enemies and were trying to strongarm a law expelling all Christians and foreigners from the country. When they were challenged to justify this in a debate with a Jesuit priest sponsored by Oda, they accepted and were so utterly humiliated their debater tried to lunge at the priest. In response, they stepped up their intrigues with the Oda's enemies and outright tried to kill Nobunaga and several others.
The Ikko-Ikki are best summed up as Theocratic Church Militant Communists/Socialists/Anarchists depending on the sect and interpretation (think something like a Medieval Japanese Taliban). They also had the stated intent of upturning Japanese society entirely and thus were hated even by their own allies. And who were also engaged in very brutal, very bloody politicking of their own that eventually targeted the Oda and their allies. The siege of Nagashima we all remember was actually the third in about as many years, after previous attempts to conquer it in a "cleaner"/more conventional way were driven back by the ultra militarized inhabitants and their clan allies.
>>292990795
>hand holding with Kenshin
>legitimately getting saved by your Rival
>only conquering land when his enemies are already dead
REMEMBER, NOBUNAGA BROUGHT NIGGER TO THE JAPAN AND WANTED TO MAKE HIM SAMURAI
>>292990724
Recent Dynasty Warriors games have been portraying him much better.
Probably because he's the favorite rule in the West, and Japan can't pander to themselves forever.
>>292990486
Oh man, the mongols were something else. They came up with a rule of no killing those of noble blood, and then immediately circumvented it by trampling nobles they didn't like with horses and justified it by saying "No blood spilled".
They also wiped out the entire persian shahdom and then destroyed Baghdad, which was the biggest center of commerce, learning and art on earth at the time. Just because one retarded shah killed their emissary.
>be a competent warlord
>be politically savvy and out-maneuver most of your rivals for total dominance
>forge solid alliances and compromise only slightly to remain in control
>be on your way to more power and prestige
>get monumentally unlucky thanks to shitty weather and ballsy raiding tactics and get fucked by Nobunaga one time
>die
>forever remembered in history as an incompetent joke daimyo
He has it good compared to poor Yoshimoto. The demon king bullshit is at least cool.
>tokugawa
>>292990724
Cao cao will be a shit leader and sub until he gets an ult evo :\
Fucking dino rider and merlin are better than him at this point
>>292990883
>Cao Cao
>Nobunaga
>Vlad the implier
Can anyone else name a man with a mustache that had ideas to radical for his own time?
>>292990956
>then your faggot son fucks everything up
>>292984201
>even in games where he is a good guy, he gets possessed by a demon and becomes the bad guy
>>292990925
Words to live by
>>292990883
>Cao Cao is Vlad the Impaler who is Oda Nobunaga who is Mozart who is still alive
How deep does the rabbit hole go?
>>292991035
>ishida
>>292990925
I don't know shit about history...
But I love these words.
>>292984201
I don't get it why does he is a bad guy and Tokugawa is almost shown as a good guy? Weren't both trying to unify Japan?
Pardon me, gentleman, im just the best portralay of Nobunaga in fiction.
>>292991078
Lenin.
>>292990970
>WANTED TO MAKE HIM SAMURAI
He actually did, probably just to piss all those "noble, honorable" types off.
>>292990486
The fuck else are they gonna do out there? Its all Horses and grass.
>>292991152
You really want to know?You sure?He put the Green Whomp in the cage
>>292991152
>Nobunaga has a skeleton
>you have a skeleton
You are Nobunaga
>>292990925
Chinese Nobunaga is absolutely based.
>>292991256
Stalin
>>292991247
>Earrings
At least Vlad got to be THE vampire.
Was he right, /v/?
>>292991281
>>292991327
It must go deeper
>>292991327
Stalin didnt have any ideas, he was just plain crazy.
>>292990724
To be fair Cao Cao kinda had the excuse in that everything fell apart around that time with the Yellow Turban Rebellion, Dong Zhuo's fuckups with the emperor and claiming the chancellor's seat, etc. He only had the balls to succeed with his ambitious instead of feigning MUH HAN like everyone else.
>>292989108
>black Saumrai
We Klingon naoe.
>>292991176
kek no
>>292991380
He was a faggot.
Reminder that he was actually older than Nobunaga and he got betrayed by his son-in-law.
>>292990518
>implying I'm not going to shill for free
>>292991380
Right thing for the wrong causes which caused it all to fuck up
He killed Nobunaga because muh feelings which caused no-one to be on his side
>>292991005
Controversial, uncompromising and ruthless rulers tend to be viewed very positively by nations who didn't interact with them. Like Genghis Khan.
Except for Vlad Tepes, who seems to be loved by romanians and hated by everyone else.
>>292991434
>had ideas to radical for his own time
JUST YOU WAIT
>>292990486
The Mongols are the only reason I liked the Conrad Stargard books, reading about them being gunned down by gunboats by the hundreds of thousands was so damn satisfying.
>>292990498
That's why I never understood people who were so interested on making dynasties.
Wait a bit and two generations later, all you did is reduced to ashes.
Seeing this even today is always funny.
>edgelords sympathising with tyrants because they lack power in their own lives
Just another day on /v/
Is it true that Oda wast westaboo as fuck?
Didn't he slaughter an entire buddhist temple or something?
>>292991507
Do we even now why he betreyed Nobunaga? I tought history wasnt sure about that.
>>292991434
He wasn't crazy. He knew exactly what he was doing.
But he did have a "people problem".
>>292989108
There should be a game about playing this guy coming back home to Africa and defeating all African warlords with his mad samurai skills.Then some African Makai demon niggas show up and you have to fight them too.
>>292991380
From what I've read he was a little bitch who got all huffy because Nobunaga didn't give a shit about social norms and nobility.
>>292991078
>>292991521
>Except for Vlad Tepes, who seems to be loved by romanians and hated by everyone else.
Only because "eeew, he was so brutal" when he was, in fact, one of the primary reasons Europe didn't get buttfucked by Ottomans.
>>292991624
Oda supposedly did kick him and slap him around in front of everyone
reminder that he did nothing wrong
>>292991613
You mean the faggot temple that was more about power than religion?
>>292991380
He fucked up his coup terribly and therefore no one recognized his legitimacy.
>>292991612
Yes. He also had a black manservant he was very fond of.
>>292991597
>Oda
>Vlad
>Tyrants
Come on, it's like you didn't even read the thread.
>>292986536
There are actually a few Castlevania games where Dracula is designed to resemble Nobunaga. What does it mean /v/?
>>292991716
He insulted EVERYONE.
Mitsuhide only got mad because he was older than Nobunaga.
>>292991635
I would play the shit out of that.
>>292991787
>manservant
He was an elite warrior. not a manservent.
>>292991613
Those were not the monks you probably imagine them to be.
>tfw no catholic shogun
>tfw no Indonesian crusade
>tfw no samurai paladin templars
>>292989127
It's all falling into place
>>292991865
Castlevania is a Konami series
they fired Kojima
It's all part of the ruse
>>292991884
Also Nobunaga was kind of the reason why his mother was killed
>>292991521
>Napoleon
>fucked over millions
>in the end still positively viewed due introducing equality for everyone and the metric system. Which is used nowadays in every civilised country.
>>292991953
>Nobunaga treated Yasuke with such great favor that people in Azuchi even said he would probably be made a tono (殿, "lord"). This did not happen, but he was given the position of samurai (仕官 shikan)
>given the position of samurai
What does samurai mean, faget?
>>292988767
Thats ridiculous. Vlad and Nobunaga couldnt be the same person, I died in the in the 16th century
>>292991865
that nobunaga is probably a historical figure they learn about in middle school in japan and as such has become a design influence in the subconscious of japanese concept artists by default, anon.
just like how american games and movies often feature rebels and rebellions against empiresGEE I WONDER WHY
>>292991612
That feeling when you're deep into a big melee, swinging you're naginata like a crazy bastard trained in Jigen-ryu, checking the kill record, realizing you just knocked down Oda Nobunaga...
>>292991635
>Samurai Warriors introduced a disco dancing afro-clad warrior
>it wasn't Yasuke
Maybe in the next game...
>>292991583
at that point you're dead and don't care anymore. problem was really leaving that shit in the hands of your direct heirs who could be mouth breathing retards
>>292992046
Well you didn't see his son-in-law crying over the fact that Hideyoshi beat the cap out of him in Yamazaki.
Heck, his son-in-law with his daughter even joined Hideyoshi and later Ieyasu.
WHO WAS THE FIRST NOBUNAGA?
Surely Cao Cao wasn't the first
>>292992141
A warrior, that was his vassal. He didnt had any land, so he wasnt tono.
>>292990178
Nobunaga's forces were not as powerful as Noriyuki's, but he managed to kill most of the generals and clan heads in their charge on the three line musket men, the once who did not charge fled from battle, including Katsuyori.
The kill count on both sides was more or less rhe same, but Nobu losts were not generals, cavalry, clan heads etc.
>>292992046
Toyotomo Hideyoshi also forced Tokugawa Ieyasu's wife to commit suicide, but he just sat on his ass and became shogun, somehow.
>>292989758
No.
Nobunaga only appears in a parody. It's a little girl.
Also Vlad has too version of himself. A shitty vampire one and an overpowered version that only appear when summoned in Romania.
Though he has D luck and suffers an horrible death anyway
>>292984201
Nobunaga was born before his time. The guy was a "progressive" sovereign in the best sense of the word.
>>292992218
>SLAM DUNK.jpg
>not TOUCHDOWN
>>292992029
So does that meanKojima was Nobunaga?
![[F-B_Ureshii]_Kaiba_-_07_[AAC-H264-720p][CC9D7EE2].mkv_snapshot_19.39_[2013.12.19_01.25.16].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TaXUtXI.jpg "[F-B_Ureshii]_Kaiba_-_07_[AAC-H264-720p][CC9D7EE2].mkv_snapshot_19.39_[2013.12.19_01.25.16].jpg")
>>292990925
>Finally get around to watching Three Kingdoms
>This fucking episode
>DIAOCHAN IS TO BE SPARED
>MY LAND... MY BEAUTIFUL LAND...
I didn't expect to fucking cry about those two assholes like Lu Bu and Gongtai, but fucking hell did I choke up like a bitch.
>>292992256
Probably someone from Sumeria, Egypt, or Babylon.
>>292984201
Anyone read the book Taiko?
That shit the bomb
>>292985968
the original kebab remover
>>292992361
It's a code.Welcome, brother.
>>292991583
Once you get to a certain point you gotta clear out all possible opponents. Then you have a dynasty and you want to save your sons. You do that by passing power to them. Because if you let it dissolve you get unrest and other powerhungry people will jump your children
>>292992256
Julius Caesar? Hannibal?
>>292984201
>Nobunaga's Ambition
Protagonist badass that saves Japan from a bunch of retarded war mongers while shitting all over traditionalist figure. Akechi is show as a buffon blinded by his own ambition.
>Samurai Warriors
>1
Oda is the necessary evil. Akechi kills him and it's BAD END. Even on the best possible Akechi end, Akechi feels empty, and feels the land is as empty as him without Oda. He is right.
>2
Oda is an ambiguous figure. Despite being cruel and violent, wishes well for his country up until the bitter end. Magoichi feels bad after he kills Nobunaga.
>3
Kooky and so mysterious character. (Fuck SW3)
>4
Back to his 2 persona but more ruthless
>Kessen
Fucker is a god damn pure hero.
>Sengoku Basara
They need to rewrite most of his scenes to make him look bad and even then Akechi did more evil shit than him.
>>292992328
I was mad about second Vlad. He was set up like a final boss, but no, you are lancer, you have to die in most tragic and pathetic way.
>>292992256
Cain.
It fits
>>292992407
While we're at it, daily reminder that you can watch the whole show subbed on Youtube if you're too lazy to download it in good quality. Making notes on names might be advisable if you haven't played Dynasty Warriors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8rkcJ5sYDI
>>292992487
What if your sons are mouth breathing retards?
The Jin dynasty collapsed because Sima Yan's successor was a dumbass who got manipulated by everyone.
>>292992569
>Kain is Nobunaga
>Hannibal is Nobunaga
>Cao Cao is Nobunaga
>Vlad is Nobunaga
>Nobunaga is Nobunaga
>Hitler is Nobunaga
>>292992516
How is Nobunaga's ambition and how am I supposed to play it.
>>292990486
I love them
They just fucked over everyone and no great power of art or education or wealth was enough to stop them
It's a great lesson to be learned in history
You not only need a good army for protection of a society but good tactics as well
>>292992516
When was 3 again? 2009? Wait, let me check something...
>Released only one year after DW6
Those were a bad two years for Koei games.
>>292992702
>Nobunqaga is Nobunaga
Get the fuck out of here with your shitty theories
>>292992702
You forgot Gilgamesh.
>>292992765
Nobunaga the time travelling demon king indeed
>>292992658
roman emperors mostly used adopted sons. Long story short, having a non-retard kid as well as him having respect is rather hard.
Don't know if already posted but pic related
>>292992717
>trying to play a rice sim
>>292992176
>you're
your
Fuck me and my no re-reading skill and lazy writing.
>>292992717
A long game series. My favorite entry is Iron Triangle but you can even play the SNES version and have some fun.
He isn't though. Go play Samurai Warriors or Senkgoku Rance or something.
Better yet, watch some actual Japanese film like Kagemusha or something.
>>292992410
Sargon the Great > Hammurabi > Ramses II >
>>292992865
That was one lame Nobunaga to be honest.
Best Nobunaga
>>292992959
Can we fuck his sister
>>292992702
>Hannibal is Nobunaga
Hannibal was the opposite of Nobunaga. He was too noble to destroy Rome when he had a chance. Turned out great for Carthage.
>>292992934
>Kagemusha
>Oda is in two scenes
>First scene he tries to troll the shit out of Tokugawa by prentending he is so eeeeevil and violent but Tokugawa just laughs it up
>Second scene is he dancing as he sings a song about Takeda's death
Two scenes and he was the most based Samurai in a Kurosawa movie. That's gotta be a record.
>>292984201
Because he was a hooligan who took power for himself.
He danced at his father's funeral, he drank wine from his brother in law's skull and made his sister drink from it too, he was generally unforgivable and murdered the innocent and otherwise loathed the old ways of Japan's history.
The Fool of Owari is infamous.
>tfw you Nobunaga will never ask you unreasonable demands like "Make Oda win an important battle by cooking" or "Destroy the enemy clan using only food"
>>292992934
>sengoku Rance
>is taken over by an evil demon
>>292993009
B-but muh control over my fate
>>292993141
A new type of troublemaker!
>>292992218
My point behind this was basically, it's no real point of trying to establish a dynasty or a big family fortune if you don't educate correctly your heirs.
I've see many fathers getting rich, losing touch with their wives, losing touch with their children. Children inherit everything but are douchey as hell, their own children don't feel close to their family and don't give a fuck about family values and family history.
Two generations and bye bye work.
Why waste your life for a thing no one will remember you for or care for ?
So yeah, spend some time with your family instead of trying to establish something that is out of your grasp.
>>292991635
Shit nigga thats eddy.
>>292993141
FUCK OFF MITSUHIDE
>>292992959
>cut open his stomach and pulled his guts out to distract the demon possessing his body at a crucial moment
He was pretty badass, he's just not a central character.
>>292990486
They fucked the Ruskies over for a long while
I'm in the mood for a samurai movie because of you fucks now.
Only notable ones I've seen are the last samurai (meh) and that one black 'n white japanese one about seven HONNOBARRU samurai that rescue a village from bandits
>>292991713
>Turks destroyed the byzantine empire just because they wanted to conquer it
>Wherever ottoman soldiers set camp, the entire area got wiped out of people and resources
>Forcefully converted people to islam and enslaved christian children to turn them into brainwashed elite soldiers
>Demanded exorbitant taxes from christians who refused to convert
>They come for Wallachia
>Vlad and his little brother gets taken as hostage to assure the wallachian loyalty
>When he grows up and assumes the throne, he fights the Ottomans back and does everything in his power to keep his shitty little principality free
>Gets called murderous, bloodthirsty tyrant by the west or, worse, gets worshipped by stormturds for killing turks without either of them understanding what he did and why
It's not like the ottomans were trying to invade Wallachia for three generations by then, or anything. Not like they destroyed the Bulgarian Tsardom as well. And the Serbian Empire. And were constantly raiding Hungary.
>>292992702
Holy shit.
>>292993141
>Nobunaga was a delinquent
Nobunaga in Cromartie high when?
>>292993328
Ran is a really good one
>>292993328
Ran
>>292993424
We found another link in the chain
>Samurai Warriors anime
>Get hype for I love Nobunaga and he was always a central piece to the plot
>Opening sucks Hideyoshi's dick
>The plot occurs entirely about the last 3 battles of the Sengoku period, focuses on the side that got curb stomped for being shitty warmongers
>Re-write history to make them look noble and good people who didn't want no trabble when they were clearly starting shit
>Will forever be denied a anime with Oda as a protagonist in the sengoku period in which he doesn't look like a girl or a young androgynous fuck
>>292993494
>>292993425
Fuck I love Gekokujo so much. Noshields is a bitch though.
Ran it is, thank you.
