As a fan of gaming, Bloodborne looks fantastic to me. I can't wait to try out the weapons and bosses. I've seen a lot of "Downgrade" theads, though, but it doesn't really seem like there's a lot of proof for an actual downgrade, did it ever happen? Let's get a nice thread going, for once.
>>285848743
>4K
Bullshot
>>285848743
Fuck, it's beautiful. The cries of 'downgrade' tend to be from jealous PC gamers who will deny that the game is good while demanding it come to their platform.
Ignore them.
>>285848829
Well, obviously. Ignore the picture.
I will nevereverget /v/'s obsession with this game that isn't even out yet.
It is hailed as the second coming of Christ.
Is it just because PS4 has no games otherwise so people have to cling onto a game that might be good?
>>285848743
Of course it happened you fucking donut, this shit isn't rocket science. Do you think consoles got more powerful over night or something? We know what consoles are capable of at this point, and we know that all console games are advertised using bullshots. Then developers have the salty balls to turn around and say "well graphics really don't matter it's about the gameplay" or any of the myriad of other asspulls about "muh cinematic feel" that they like to trot out when the game inevitable fails to meet expectations. This generation is barely an upgrade from the last one since we're still getting 30fps @ 900p donkey shit.
>>285849140
People are excited because it's doing what Demon's Souls did, with the studio and director who did Demon's Souls?
Why wouldn't you be excited?
>>285849140
You're asking a question but it's pretty clear that you're not interested in receiving an answer.
This console generatuon is a joke. It will hold back graphics for years to come. Even a low range pc outperforms the ps4.
>>285849419
Why would they don't want an answer. "Because it looks awesome," is way too simple of an answer, and would require them to stop being salty about a lack of a PC release.
It does look great. But certain graphical features have been toned down in the months leading up to release which is all part of optimising your game so it runs better, or just because the art director didn't like them.
>>285849140
It's because this is Hidetaka Miyazaki's fifth directing role on a video game and the last four games he directed are all in my top 10 of all time list.
>>285848743
>As a fan of gaming
stopped reading, too obvious
>>285849824
Assblasted PCuck detected. Bloodborne looks better than any upcoming indie shit for Piss Cee
>>285848743
>As a fan of gaming
Dude, no. Just no.
>>285851198
You're not even worth a reply, but damn. You're a sad soul.
>>285849039
Pretty much this. I'm pretty sure /v/ will be ten times worse when this game comes out.
>>285851393
"as a fan of gaming" kind of phrases are told by people who aren't actually into games. Sorry.
>>285851180
except consoles fail to deliver a game with the graphical fidelity of an 8 year old PC title for years
>>285851658
That's a really shitty logic. I'll make sure to call myself a "Gamer" next time, just for you.
>>285851420
/v/ is never good. When PC gamers can't have something they want, this place becomes horrible.
>>285851180
Bloodborne looks like shit though. Though most games on the shitstation 4 can't run well which is why even mgs v is downgraded on your shitty tablet system. I enjoy seeing the tears when you play BB only to learn that it is garbage.
>>285853070
>Hasn't been out yet
>Turns to calling a console names like a middle schooler in result
Yep, you're ass blasted.
If there were a downgrade every Bloodborne thread would be filled with it.
>>285853070
>the literal butthurt
>>285853743
>One art asset is changed
DOWNGRAAAAAAAAAAAAADE
>>285853743
Which one is supposed to be the downgrade?
>>285852706
As someone whodoesn't play games at all, sonyggers are at least equally bad.
For those without means: which stream will you be watching? It's manvsgame for me.Preparing a hefty donation once he reaches spider tower. Still choosing between several drafts of an accompanying message.
>>285853919
>watching someone play Bloodborne before you beat it yourself
>>285853854
Yup, that's a downgrade.
>>285853862
Look closer.
>>285853919
>he donates
>>285853907
I don't usually buy Sony consoles, I'm one of those retards you hear about who plays Nintendo games for the mostpart. Bloodborne, Demon's Souls and MGS4 are the only Sony games I care about.
And yet I own and love them all.
Maybe I AM shit?
>>285854172
The change of a single art asset matters that much to you? That's some spot-the-difference bullshit.
>>285854574
FROM cannot do lightning and it really brings down the very good art direction.
>>285854574
You're only certified shit IF BloodBorne turns out to be shit and you still love it purely because it's a PS4 exclusive.
>>285853743
it makes sense, they had to tone the lighting down a bit.
yes, almost all the promo shots were 4k downsamples and the tgs trailer had CGI effects missing from the actual game
downgrade was worse than dark souls IIs
I am a PC fag and I say the downgrade doesn't realy matter.
The game will be good, but sadly not on PC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr0PyuQh_MM
this is going to be amazing
>>285858619
Sure if you're a sickdark edgelord.
>>285856226
If it's shit I'll hate it.
I hate shit.
>>285858806
will you stop.
the dungeons below the city are randomly generated, and you can download other peoples dungeons as well. so basically, you will always have something new to play.
>>285853743
The bottom on s the IGN build, which is an old build and the top one is from a dev stream (low res) but it came out AFTER the IGN footage.
You people are seriously retarded.
>>285858094
>I am a PC fag and I say the downgrade doesn't realy matter.
I think downgrades always matter.
Not because they make the final product shit, but because it reflects the state of gaming right now. They shouldn't be lying about their products pre-release. Work in progress footage should represent a work in progress. I feel like Nintendo are the only company left that releases prerelease footage inferior to the final product, with a disclaimer that it's all unfinished.
there any actual gameplay trailers yet
>>285859137
>final product
>>285857001
ugh, what's that shit on the right.. don't tell me these are supposed to be the same games..
>>285859245
For well over three months
Where the fuck have you been?
>>285848743
>Was the "Downgrade" actually a thing?
Yes it was.
>>285857001
>Hitting a shield doesn't have the same effect as hitting flesh
Wooooow
>>285859137
I know, but everybody around here knows that
Sony is notorious for lying to your face, and they are not even coy about it, they pump things so up that people actually believe it. I think they even start believing it at some point.
see ps3
Let me tell you something.
Don't listen to /v/. Downgrades has been a part of games since the fucking dawn of time. Why? Because as development goes along and more things get added, some things have to be cut to make the game run properly. Has Bloodborne been downgraded? Sure, to some extent I am pretty sure it has. But so has every other game under the goddamn sun before release because some things simply does not work in the final game.
You could blame this on consoles, but that's another argument.
>>285859370
what about it
Just because MK8 doesn't look that great to begin with doesn't mean their prerelease footage and shots weren't the same or worse
>>285848743
Nope.
Bloodborne will be the GOAT
why do people blame consoles for holding graphics back? There are more pc users out there with pcs less powerful than the xbone and nogaems
>>285859873
Lords of the Fallen wasn't downgraded and retards complain that the game won't run in 60 FPS on their toasters. Let this be a lesson to all devs. Never make games that require high end hardware to run on ultra.
>>285859984
nice retarded statement
and there are still people who own a SNES. whats your point?
the aveage PC is better than your xbone
>>285860178
There are more pc users out there than cosole users. It doesn't make sense to cater to console users.
>>285849039
>>285851420
>>285852706
So is this game effectively just going to be immune to criticism on here then?
Like if anyone has any valid complaints they're just going to get memed on with 'le butthurt mustard' shit?
>>285860509
It's not out yet, no one has played it. There's no valid criticism or praise
I recently listened to /v/ and upgraded to PC. All I’ve had was dread and neglect.
When I saw Bloodborne get confirmed exclusive to the PS4 I legit teared up. All I had to show for my $900 rig were a few toaster exclusives that didn’t even require a gaming rig and consolized ports optimized like garbage. Every online based game that wasn’t a prehistoric FPS (like Counter Strike and TF2) or an MMO/MOBA (like WoW/Dota) had a weak as fuck community that for the most part died in a matter of weeks. Apparently all my fellow PCbros were too busy jerking over their rigs on /r/masterrace and /v/ to bother to play games, the other PCbros on TF2/Dota (etc) were all ruskies that owned pitiful netbooks.
Finding out GTA V and MGSV were delayed also triggered me greatly.
I frequent reddit /r/masterrace and /v/ just so I can feel apart of a ‘master race’. So far this title (that for the most part gets laughed at) has been the only saving grace of gaming on PC.
Seeing the PS4 lists always trigger me greatly, knowing that a cheaper alternative is getting these great games, seeing all the rave and hype at IGN/E3 revolve around this console just saddened me to the point of alcoholism. Why do developers treat us like this? We are humans too, we have feelings.
This isn’t a falseflag, just a confession,. I will not upgrade my PC any further and instead buy a PS4 and Wii U.
Now I know how based Big Boss feels. Gaming on PC truly is a burden, a burden I must carry forever more. A burden, known as the Master Race
>>285860178
PCs are on average weaker than PS4s.
>>285860178
>Average PC
>Better than Xbone
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Steam-Survey-Most-PC-Gamers-Have-Weaker-PCs-Than-PS4-Xbox-One-58833.html
I like this new meme that consoles are holding back visuals
>Majority of PCuck exclusives are toaster tier games that look like PS2 shit
No nigga, PCucks hold back gaming. How? Because most of PC gamers are cucks with literal netbooks, why would PC developers make games that have good graphics that only 10% of PC gamers could experience? They target the majority which is the literal assfaggots crowd with their potatoes in third world countries.
>>285860710
That's because PC's are used in offices everywhere to create spreadsheets.
Fucking idiot...
>>285860509
Literally nobody has said that. What has been said is that if your criticism is based on envy, rather than objective flaws in the product, then your criticism is invalid.
How did you come to your conclusion?
I mean... Just how?
>>285860695
Well, good time to drop this friendly reminder
>99% of PC exclusives are toaster friendly meaning any consolebro can experience the majority of what PC gaming has to offer on a literal potato
>PS4 most relevant gaming platform
>PC still waiting for GTA V and Dead or Alive 5
>Delayed MGSV recently confirmed (2 week delay, could turn out to be like GTA V and be pushed back even more) for PC with no Collectors edition, $60 for a DIGITAL version
The cuckagae is still in full effect for PCfriends
Upcoming:
PS4 exclusive:
>Uncharted 4
>Blood Borne
>Until Dawn
>Deep Down
>Let it Die
>The Order
>Wild
>New Guerilla game
>Gran Turismo 7
>New God of War
>New Sly
>New Ratchet and Clank
>Silent Hills
>Rime
>Neptunia VII
> Omega Quintet
>Disegea 5
>Fat Princess
>Fairy Fencer F Advent Dark Force
>Amplitude
>Tomorrows Children
>Everybody's gone to rapture
>TLoU 2
Sony exclusive (b-but Sonys continued support of the PS3 is bad!)
>Persona 5
>Godzilla
>Yakuza 0
>Y&S
>Dragon Quest Heroes
> SK Estival versus
>The Idolm@ster
>God Eater 2
>What Remains of Edith Finch
>Wattam
> Summer Lesson
> Senran Kagura Estival Versus
>Earth Defence Force 4.1
>Drawn to Death
>Kill Strain
>Helldivers
>Cygames' PS4 Project
>NIS's 2nd PS4 Project
>SCEJ x Level-5's JRPG
>Alienation
>New Gundam
>Teraway Unfolded
>Other weeb games
Never Ever tier:
>Final Fantasy XV
>Final Fantasy Type 0
>Kingdom Hearts 3
Not to mention the fact that we aren't missing out on the other big multiplats.
>Witcher 3
>FFXV
>Kingdom Hearts 3
>MGSV
>Batman Arkham Knight
>Evolve
>Dying Light
Then the "thanks for the beta test" tier games:
>Killing Floor 2
>Street Fighter V
>Day Z
>H1Z1
>Vanishing of Etran Carter
>No man's Sky
>Among the Sleep
>The Forest
>Planetside 2
>Tropico
>Amikrog
>Talos Principle
I'd say 2015 looks good, no? Not to mention the inevitable announcements at E3.
>2015
>he still doesn't own a PS4
>Caring about graphics
DeS/DaS aren't exactly lookers but it didn't matter at all, the games still turned out great. The more From focuses on gameplay, level design, ai etc and not high res textures and fancy particle effects the better.
>>285860695
is this copypasta?
>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who think this game won't be released to PC approximately one year after console release
Really? How many times do we have to prove you wrong? Even if it's going to be a shitty port the PC community will FIX it.
>>285861320
How're you enjoying Demon's Souls PC? :-^)
man, we had such a good thread last night before the shitposters woke up.
>>285861284
Yep.
>>285860695
This poster literally has no life.
Maybe if we laugh at him he'll kill himself.
>>285861094
dworf
this game alone shits on the entire next gen library
>>285861320
the ip is owned by sony. they will not port it. its why demon's souls was not ported, since the ip was owned by sony. only way it will be ported is if they sell the ip to from or another publisher, but that has never happened so you should not get your hopes up
>>285848743
Its a Sony exclusive, did you honestly not expect a downgrade.
>>285861425
>>285849039
>2 posts in
Yeah.
Just fine.
Also are you implying there has ever been a "good" BloodBorne thread?
>>285860509
Every criticism so far save for like 2 has been bullshit.
>>285861717
>save for like 2
Do you english, anon?
>>285861712
How is >>285849039 shitposting in any way?
The game is beautiful.
>>285860695
High-end PC owner here. You are a complete fuckhead. Go play fucking games you shitpile of a human. You're not even looking for them.
>I got sad because Yearly AAA Fuckfest isn't coming to PC
Stop crying. You've bought a PC over a console and haven't even TOUCHED any of the genres that are unworkable on console at all. Pure bleeding fucking performance is not the only reason PC's are a thing.
>>285860695
Blatant falseflag aside:
>When I saw Bloodborne get confirmed exclusive to the PS4 I legit teared up. All I had to show for my $900 rig were a few toaster exclusives that didn’t even require a gaming rig and consolized ports optimized like garbage. Every online based game that wasn’t a prehistoric FPS (like Counter Strike and TF2) or an MMO/MOBA (like WoW/Dota) had a weak as fuck community that for the most part died in a matter of weeks. Apparently all my fellow PCbros were too busy jerking over their rigs on /r/masterrace and /v/ to bother to play games, the other PCbros on TF2/Dota (etc) were all ruskies that owned pitiful netbooks.
Is 100% accurate for me, it's why I stopped upgrading my PC and just got one Sony console and one Nintendo console each gen.
I can run most of PCs new exclusives on my toaster, it renders and upgrade useless to me. Not to mention the fact that PC exclusives are underwhelming as fuck.
The only one I can think of that i'm hyped about is Bannerlord and even then PS4 has 5 more games not coming to PC that i'm more hyped for.
Ever since I moved to consoles i've felt a lot better, as if a weight had been lifted.
>>285861712
no im saying the thread late last night was 99% discussion and almost no shitposting.
>>285861879
>falling for bait
>high end user
Why am I not surprised?
>>285861879
>being this triggered over somebody not liking PC gaming
For what cause? He doesn't like, shared it and you're mad over it?
Not everybody gives a fuck about PC gaming, in fact, most gamers don't.
>>285861879
>Pure bleeding fucking performance is not the only reason PC's are a thing.
I know, right?
>>285848743
yeah, it's visible in the videos, they changed many statues to reduce the poly count.
>>285851180
>I have no counter argument so I'll call him a fuck
>>285861926
Not just buying the ps4 at the end of the gen
with the actually good games.
Not being an ultra cheap motherfucker
>>285860695
I know that feel
>GTA V delayed on PC
>MGSV delayed on PC (no collectors edition, $60 for digital version)
>No FFXV
>No Kingdom Hearts 3
>No Bloodborne
>No Silent Hills
>No Persona 5
>No Yakuza 0
>No Neptunia VII
>No Fairy Fencer Dark Advent
>Only getting year old vita ports of the worst games (Rebirth series, worst Tales game, Fairy Fencer vita)
>Witcher 3 consolized
>Killing Floor 2 consolized
>Day Z, Elite Dangerous, The Forest, Planetside 2 all coming to consoles
>Exclusive library consists of toaster tier shovelware any consolebro can play on a potato
>PS4 multiplats definitive version aside from the vocal minority of PC gamers with 'capable' rigs
>Literally renting games on Steam
g-golden era r-right guys?
>>285848743
Did they actually touch the models or textures: Probably not.
Did they turn on super sampling, shadows for every light, high res shadow maps, higher AA, pick camera angles that look exceptional, etc: Most definitely. As a developer I crank the settings before releasing a screen regardless of the framerate. 8k downsampled to 1080p.
>>285861262
>still lists the order
now that's some blind fanatism
> Bloodborne PS4 fps: 30
> Bloodborne PCuck fps: 0
>>285861271
without graphics that game is putrid. Imagine devil may cry with only one combo, and it's 3 hits.
for the whole game. At 50% of the speed.
You have bloodborne.
>>285849039
>4K
>PS4
kekekekekekekekekkeke sonygger
>>285862079
He's like a 60 year old crying about the radio he bought for his car because he can't figure it out and the manual is RIGHT FUCKING THERE YOU STUPID FUCK PICK IT UP AND READ IT FUCK
>doesn't try simulators of any kind
>doesn't try grand strategy
>doesn't try citybuilding
>doesn't even EMULATE
He's a fag, and his shits all fucking retarded.
Why can't people be excited for a game and want to discuss it with like minded people? Who hurt you /v/?
>>285861262
> entire argument is based on exclusives
> reminder that in the real world everyone just plays multiplats more than anything including PS4 users
> spending a bit more money to enjoy the massive majority of games that are multiplats is apparently silly
> spending £400 to play an exclusive is apparently totally rational
Jesus christ consolefags
http://vincentwardfilms.com/concepts/alien-3/graphic-novel-in-8-parts/part-1/
Better setting than Bloodborne, hopefully some Japanese dev will make something similar.
>>285857001
>huge downgrade
>poor fps
thank god
I didn't want this to be good because I never plan to get a PS4.
>>285862636
Well a completely different publisher andnwhat might as well have been a completely different dev studio hurt the souls fanbase.
>>285848743
Game isnt even out, retard. My god did you forget what happened with DS2 so soon? Talk about downgrade when you are playing it.
>>285862565
>Nobody's claiming the game will run at 4K resolution
>All he said was that it's beautiful
I'm sure your input is valid, but name-calling is pointless, PC friend.
>>285862656
>an exclusive
>each console only gets one exclusive
I understand that as a pcuck you don't know what exclusives are, but come on now.
>>285862656
Better than spending $1000+ to be cucked for shitty console ports :^)
When was the last time PC even had a worthwhile exclusive? Literal kek.
>>285862121
> old games exist
This doesn't even work as a good shitpost, it's just moronic
>>285862778
Stop banking on AAA titles. They NEVER deliver. I can't even bother to keep up with them anymore after all the simplified controls and graphics compromises.
this is what sony fanboys defend
>>285862875
Feels good man.
>>285861160
Not the guy, but what the fuck, anon. Its self explanatory how he came to the conclusion. It happened many times before. Who will judge if the criticism is based on envy? You? Because you fromdrones have spend a great deal defending the game from valid criticism while you havent even played it yet.
>>285862982
Dude, large PC library along with the emulators are the valid reason to get it.
>>285861104
That's because Pee Cee isn't a console :^)
>>285863114
>Lords of the Fallen
Why is From even doing this?
There is no point in this other than working with Japan Studio
>>285860695
God. Everytime someone asks for a nice thread you people shit it up.
What the fuck is your problem putting so much cancer on /v/?
>>285861320
>being this delusional
>>285849893
>Why would they don't want an answer
oh ffs stop shitposting.
here, have a maiden.
>>285861262
Pls.
I can't stand the cancer anymore.
I just can't... Copy pasting blocktext of weeb games and the order instead of actually making an argument.
Its sad.
>>285862656
>his entire argument is around games
Top kek, going by your logic is must suck only being able to play assfaggots and WoW seeing as thats all PCucks.play
>>285862959
>When was the last time PC even had a worthwhile exclusive
> 80% of what the average person plays is multiplat
> instantly tries to frame the argument around exclusives
kek
I just like having all the most important games of the year not look and run like shit
> inb4 meme that all PC ports are Ubisoft tier
>>285863319
Doing what? They do whatever SONY says, because Kadokawa, the new owner of From Software is in deep financial shit.
Post YFW Sonybros
>>285863518
post more
>>285863719
>only being able to play assfaggots and WoW
I play AAA multiplats though. Your logic makes no sense
>>285861262
>i'd say 2015 looks good
no way you're getting all that shit in 2015
but still, looks pretty good, might consider a ps4 next year if these games actually deliver
>>285861879
Hahahaha stupid PCuck
>>285863775
You make more money with multiplats most of the time
>>285863864
>>285863904
check the japan game site, they added lots of stuff.
>>285863748
But really thought.
Why build a gaming PC?
Why not get a Sony console (PS4 is confirmed to be the most relevant and 'go-to' gaming platform this gen) and a Nintendo one (If you like Nintendo shit) for:
>Sony exclusives
>PS4 exclusives
>Console exclusives
>Definitive version of multiplats aside from the 1% of PCucks with decent rigs
>http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Steam-Survey-Most-PC-Gamers-Have-Weaker-PCs-Than-PS4-Xbox-One-58833.html
Then use your toaster laptop / desktop for whatever garbage exclusives come out on PC?
99% of PCs library is playable on literal toasters, buying a gaming PC only condems you to shitty and delayed ports and neglect.
>mfw even Xbone is getting FFXV
>>285848743
It definitely won't run in the resolution of that image, but there is a demo out that looks gorgeous so I doubt there would be a downgrade now. People are just sceptical because of DaSll.
these threads are so boring, i can't imagine how posting the exact same things over and over and replying to yourself can be fun
I enjoy shitposting from time to time but these threads are so fucking stale, just like this whole board
>>285864051
Tell that to SONY. They are making all the decisions at this point. From can shut the fuck up and make everything they can to run the game at 24 FPS on PS4.
>>285864247
I can honestly believe that this one guy is on the whole goldface for shit and giggles. I like it.
>>285863114
Looks good. LotF is alright.
>>285863179
Which valid criticism? They've not played it, Demon's Souls is objectively good, nobody's right about it yet.
>>285864247
PS4+3DS may be the Wii60 of this generation, i play my 3ds more than my wii U and gaming rig combined and if ps4 delivers on good exclusives then i thnk i'm sold
>>285857001
The particle effect is still there i n the second gif, but the hammer itself clips behind the enemy and you don't get to see it. Also that trailer that the first gif is from is full of post-processing effects
>>285863864
Never EVAR general?FFXV
>>285863864
>>285864760
>>285863864
>>285864563
I mean why did they make a contract to begin with, it could be a great idea on shifting risk of creating a new ip on somebody else, but they don't own bloodborne right? Also it is just the next souls style game nothing realy special.
>>285864649
>framerate issues
>gun spam
>downgrade
>black crystal sends home invaders
>5 areas
>todays PvP information in general
Sure, it might not be the case in the final product, but at this stage its normal to be worried by those things. Yet fromdrones are in full force.Please, dont reply with your opinions on those issues, because I have none. Just about people defending it.
ITT: PCucks shitposting
>>285865070
You really need to try harder.
>3840x2160
That's a bullshot, son.
>>285863864
>>285865070
>gun spam
Nope.
>black crystal sends home invaders
Nope
>5 areas
Nope
>>285865690
>>285865619
This is literally what I talked about.
Cant wait till you fucks can piss off and play this game.
Hopefully it lasts you longer than The Order, or Drive Club, or Killzone, or Knack yadayadayada
>>285864247
1.) this is the point in the console lifecycle where PC and consoles are closest together. In terms of quality it's just downhill for consoles for the next 7 years. There's not going to be any magic optimization that changes everything
2.)
> le cinemablend article that has about as much weight as Kdramastars
'Most PC's' doesn't mean anything when the overall pool is so large. Even if only a certain percentage of Steam users has good PC's, then that's still a massive amount of people in raw numbers. This argument makes as much sense as adding PS4, PS3 and Vita together then saying "the average Sony device is weak"
3.) The better version of every multiplat, which just improves as time goes on and the hardware gap increases
4.) the chance of actual AAA games in VR rather than Wii sports tier games that result from the Morpheus being permanently tethered to 2011 hardware.
5.) the increased chance of getting what's good from Xbone library as it finally dies and Microsoft have to throw in with PC
>>285865820
Im not sure what you want. If half of your points are completely false you should expect people to call you out on being a shitposterm
>>285850403
>Demon's Souls
>Dark Souls
>Dark Souls 2
>Your favorite game of all time.
I can understand Demon's Souls, maybe even Dark Souls (and that's pushing it) but how Dark Souls 2? It's not a bad game, but it's the exact same shit. How many times can you play the exact same game before you are bored or at least not having so much "fun" that you think it's the greatest game ever made?
>>285865820
its okay
just see http://vote.pollcode.com/97576113
>>285860178
This isn't true, consoles ate better at the moment (barely) the problem is that they stagnate for 5-7 years, so in 3 years time PC will be waiting for the consoles to catch up and multiplats with stagnate until the release of the new consoles.
>>285865070
Hey, if the game is shit people will say it's shit. Myself included.
We don't know if those criticisms are valid yet. I really hope they're not though!
>>285857001
Did you actually expect the game to look like that cutscene? God you people are gullible.
>>285866128
What I want? I answered question asked by other anon. I dont care about the game issues. I wont be playing it anyway. What I am talking about are fromdrones attacking everybody who even mention concern about issues. In short, what there people demonstrated.>>285865690>>285865619>>285866412 and ofcourse, yourself included.
>>285866249
Hidetaka Miyazaki didn't direct DaS2, you complete mong.
>every blodborne thread
>>285866336
they are not better what are you talking about?
you can buy at a reaonable near console price a better PC.
Also you don't have to pay for a shitty subscription just to play your games online
>>285866519
You're a fucking idiot if you think people spamming bullshots are actually unaware that theyre posting bullshots.
>>285861262
>>285861262
kek I was really considering getting a PS4 lately for bloodborne and to play MGSV early but your abysmal exclusives list just convinced me not to. Thanks, I guess I will wait for e3 at least to see if they can muster anything up.
>>285866972
What bullshots? What are you even talking about? I never said anything about bullshots.
Why are PS4 owners such shitposters?
>>285866862
I meant they are better than the 'average' PC which is a 770 with a i5 tier pretty much, don't get your panties in a twist, I'm on your side.
Of course you CAN build a PC that is better than current gen consoles, and current gen consoles are only very marginally more powerful than the average PC at the moment but it's more expensive at this point.
>>285867165
OK fuck it, I'll bite.
Half of your examples of complaints are bullshit. We all know that they're bullshit (except for you, apparently) and people that post them just for the sake of shitposting are dealt with accordingly.
>>285866249
Miyazaki didn't direct Dark Souls 2 you idiot.
>>285867391
770 and i5 beat the ps4 easily
>>285867520
>OK fuck it, I'll bite.
This is getting unintentionally ironic now. I am talking about people defending the game and attacking anyone who dare to even mention any issues and you respond to me by defending the game with no real proof and attacking me.
I really hope the game will be good, but dammit you people would defend anything.
>>285866102
>this is the point in the console lifecycle where PC and consoles are closest together. In terms of quality it's just downhill for consoles for the next 7 years. There's not going to be any magic optimization that changes everything
>in terms of quality
>PS3 still going strong 8 years later
Baseless
muh graphics arguments
>'Most PC's' doesn't mean anything when the overall pool is so large. Even if only a certain percentage of Steam users has good PC's, then that's still a massive amount of people in raw numbers. This argument makes as much sense as adding PS4, PS3 and Vita together then saying "the average Sony device is weak"
No counter source to my steam survey? Good to know.
Again. muh graphics arguments
>3.) The better version of every multiplat, which just improves as time goes on and the hardware gap increases
The select minority of PC gamers, it's not a plus for PC gaming, it's a plus for individual PC gamers.
>4.) the chance of actual AAA games in VR rather than Wii sports tier games that result from the Morpheus being permanently tethered to 2011 hardware.
Baseless, we haven't seen what Morpheus has to offer.
Again, muh graphics arguments
>5.) the increased chance of getting what's good from Xbone library as it finally dies and Microsoft have to throw in with PC
Baseless speculation.
Wow, you sure showed him.s
>>285868005
Are you daft?
There are more than 5 areas.
Hosts can't fire the shot to make invaders leave.
You can't spam the gun.
These things are known. You're just retarded.
>>285868383
>Factual figures and arguments
>f-fucking autists
The last one I get (looks like a mispost) but the rest are fine, just because they triggered you doesn't make them less valid.
>>285863864
>>285868449
Information this morning said 5 PvP area. It also said that black crystal can send invaders home. I dont know about the gun, I vaguely remember it being said that parry spam is OP or something. And you are the one daft. I told you so many times that I dont care about the issues. I care about you calling me retard fro even mentioning them. Backpedal from that.
>>285848743
>3840x2160
Come on now sonybronies, don't lie to yourself. Here, fixed.
>>285867742
Fuck It I concede, I try to play devils advocate, just fuck consoles.
My point still stands though that consoles aren't necessarily holding graphics back yet as the performance between the average PC and next gen consoles are still pretty close, you could argue that they make low resolutions and framerate acceptable but that's only within their little bubble, it doesn't effect PC games.
>>285868812
It said none of this shit. 5 areas were mentioned, but the producer said there wouls be more in addition. The fail conditions for PvP state that the invader can fire the shot to leave, not the host.
If you actually bothered to look into any of the sources instead of parroting what some tripfag on /v/ said like a fucking tool you'd know this all already.
>>285849140
It's a combination of Souls fan zealotry with desperate PS4 owners who need games.
>>285868295
1.) 'still going strong'. What exactly does that mean? That it can still technically play some games that all look and run like ass?
2.)
> No counter source to my steam survey? Good to know.
Are you just playing dumb? I just explained why it's a bullshit argument to begin with. When steam has over 100 million users then talking in percentages rather than actual numbers doesn't mean anything.
I may as well ask you to counter this:
>"the average Sony device is weak"
But I think you know all this and you're just being disingenuous.
3.)
>The select minority of PC gamers
ditto
4.)
> Baseless, we haven't seen what Morpheus has to offer.
A large part of what Morpheus has to offer hinges on what the PS4 has to offer and we've seen plenty of that already. If you think that VR isn't going to be very hardware dependent then you're totally delusional.
5.) Yes that one is fairly speculative, but all the signs are pointing in that direction
>>285868836
> PS4 BB framerate: 30
> PCuck 1500+$ "gaming rig" BB framerate: 0
enjoy your 4K "DaS2 DoubleDip DX11 edition"
>>285869546
>>285868295
Daily reminder that you two will NEVER EVER see a vagina.
>>285869314
I didnt bother. I don not want to bother. I do not care about 5 areas, nor any issues. What I bothered was to read the fromdrones defend that shit in the thread where it was said. Do you even understand? Are you even close to the point that I dont care about bloodborne, but about fromdrone shitters? Is my english so bad?
Seriously, what is wrong with you people. All you do is defend the game. I didnt even say anything about your game. I just listed issues that other people mentioned in bloodborne threads before. They are not my opinions. I just answered question.
>>285869546
>1.) 'still going strong'. What exactly does that mean? That it can still technically play some games that all look and run like ass?
Muh graphics argument
>Are you just playing dumb? I just explained why it's a bullshit argument to begin with. When steam has over 100 million users then talking in percentages rather than actual numbers doesn't mean anything.
I may as well ask you to counter this:
Literally every steam survey shows PCucks as owning toasters, get a source with a survey pool as large that suggests otherwise or stfu about it. It's facts, staring you right in the face.
Again, muh graphics argument
>A large part of what Morpheus has to offer hinges on what the PS4 has to offer and we've seen plenty of that already. If you think that VR isn't going to be very hardware dependent then you're totally delusional.
Not delusional, I just don't like using speculated nonsense (something so popular among PCucks, "FFXV will come, y-you will see!", "MGSV wouldn't get delayed, y-you will see!") in a factual based argument.
It's ultimately useless.
Also
>5.) Yes that one is fairly speculative, but all the signs are pointing in that direction
Not at all, pic related.
It's 100% speculated and typical PCuck delusion.
>>285869858
They defend it because the information you pull out of your ass isn't even true
>>285848743
Both Bloodborne and Dark Souls 2 got brightened up, making the torches pointless
It's ridiculous watching the downgraded version of the first area and seeing all the enemies holding torches still when its bright out
>>285869947
That guy is basically saying
>Hi microsoft I want to know whether or not to buy an xbox one or not
of course they will say whatever it takes to get the sale, it's not official yet so they can say what they want.
>>285869858
Sad to think that the opinions and views of people you will never meet seem to effect you so much. I think you need to go outside and do something with your life.
>>285869947
>Muh graphics argument
Playing games at 20 fps with pop in isn't a graphics argument, it's a playability argument.
>>285869858
>didn't bother to check to see if people were spouting bullshit
>complains about people attacking people defending bullshit that you think is well founded and true
Your English isn't as bad as much as you're a complete idiot that probably couldn't reason your way out of a paper fucking bag.
>>285857001
>Heavily post processed and filtered pre-alpha preview video that was never supposed to be made public.
>It doesn't look the same as raw gameplay.
>This is evidence of anything
>>285864882
>>285870075
>got brightened up
>Completely different time of day
you guys are literally begging for a downgrade on this
>>285870443
There's no evidence there's a day night cycle, and its definitely the same area.
>>285870021
You read my post and you decided to respond with this? Listen here, pal, Its not relevant if the information I pulled is true or not. I am not using it. I listed it only because that anon asked me. Its completely irrelevant to the point I am making.
>>285870165
And so you attack me. This is exactly the point I am making.
>>285870395
>defending bullshit that you think is well founded and true
No. I have no opinion on those "bullshit". I am mad that people attack and defend ANY attempt at criticism.
You guys are just proving my point. I didnt even say anything about your game and you are attacking me because you think I did. I really hope the game will be good so its worth it.
>>285870149
That's the thing with you PCucks. Your delusion from this PCuck hugbox of a board has made you resort to flat out saying "i-it doesn't count!" when started in the face with facts.
It renders arguing with you useless.
WHy are you in a Bloodborne thread? Why are you not playing your 'epic backlog'?
>tfw can play 99% of PCucks library
>tfw Persona 5/Bloodborne/Yakuza0/FFXV/Silent Hills all too look forward to
>PCucks still waiting for GTA V
No wonder you fags are bitter as fuck
>>285870075
>Downgrade
>Completely different time of day in a game with a day/night cycle
>It looks different
GEE, YOU DON'T FUCKING SAY!
>Enemies have torches in the day
Torches are for more then light, anon. Or did the fact that there are a bunch of crucified, burning werewolves around not give you the impression that perhaps they're using fire as a weapon?
PCUCKS
AWAY AWAY
CURSED PCUCKS
>>285870693
>day/night cycle
Since when?
>>285848743
No. The latest builds actually look better than what they've shown before so if anything they've improved the graphics, but who gives a fuck really?
>>285859137
implying there haven't been downgrades forever.
>>285848743
literally every AAA development cycle ever uses the following high-level process
1. add stuff
2. optimize
it has to be this way because so many systems (environments, enemies, AI) are being developed side-by-side and nobody knows, e.g. how much an enemy "costs" to put in a scene and therefore whether a scene supports a certain type of encounter until the enemies AND the scene are done, which usually happens pretty late in the project.
i could give a dozen variations of the above scenario, another good example would be the skylines in bioshock infinite, which required a lot of new engine tech, tech to place in level...this stuff was going on side-by-side the rest of development, they don't know how much it's going to 'cost" the console until it's done
so 100% of the time they go overbudget and they need to cut, and the most consistent way to cut is to remove excess lights and meshes, i.e. grass. i want to emphasize that this happens in literally every AAA game. what you call bullshots are just unfinished games because ~games look better when they are in development, before optimization~
i dont think its the most beautiful ever myself, but people will pretty much find any excuse to shitpost about it because it gets replies and reactions
>>285870427
sony make VCR, not computer
>>285870757
Since your ass needs to learn how to google
>>285870627
afaik the time of day is contextual to where you are in the world and progress.
>>285870872
Nothing official.
>>285870627
>No evidence of a day night cycle
>Another interviewer asked if a day and night cycle would be implemented in Bloodborne, as fans noticed that in some parts of the game’s recent trailer, the sky was brightly-lit. The producer stated that there is indeed a variation of time in the game but adds that “it’s not like it happens in real-time when you play, the sun goes down or something like that. It doesn’t happen. But yes, when you play through the story, there are variations of the weather and the time.”
You a stupid nigga
>>285870934
hahaha okay faggot keep living in denial and delusion. whatever helps you sleep.
>>285870650
No one is accusing you of attacking Bloodborne you dumb fuck. You're attacking people for getting mad at other people for saying shit that's completely untrue, thinking that the complaints were totally valid. You sounded like a dipshit right off the bat, and big shock, it turns out that you actually were a dipshit.
>>285870671
Why are you being such a faggot? Yes I would love to play Bloodborne and will eventually get a PS4 when it gets cheaper in order to do so but there is literally nothing else going for consoles for the foreseeable future.
>>285870879
>and progress
Well then since the alpha footage and the 18 minute footage are both the first area, there's no way to progress enough in the game to make it night like it was originally in the alpha.
>>285870980
In other words, different areas will have different times of day. That's not a day night cycle.
>>285870934
>Another interviewer asked if a day and night cycle would be implemented in Bloodborne, as fans noticed that in some parts of the game’s recent trailer, the sky was brightly-lit. The producer stated that there is indeed a variation of time in the game but adds that “it’s not like it happens in real-time when you play, the sun goes down or something like that. It doesn’t happen. But yes, when you play through the story, there are variations of the weather and the time.”
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2014/10/29/gamestart-2014-bloodborne-interview-with-masaaki-yamagiwa-talks-frame-rate-messengers-and-more/
So not real time, but it does change time depending on where in the game you are.
>>285871103
In other words the area we've all seen will be stuck in day mode with the enemies carrying torches in daylight.
>>285869947
>"Literally every steam survey shows PCucks as owning toasters, get a source with a survey pool as large that suggests otherwise or stfu about it. It's facts, staring you right in the face".
Do you genuinely not understand what I'm saying?
I never denied that most people on Steam have shit computers, I'm just saying that it's a totally fatuous point to make in the first place.
> Steam has over 100 million users
> even if only 25% of them have great hardware that's already more people than own a PS4.
What is so hard to understand about that?
What you're doing is the equivalent of lumping PS4, PS3, Vita together then using that to say "most Sony device owners have really weak consoles" as some way of attacking PS4 owners. It's a shit tier argument
If you don't get this by now then you're either braindead or just really fucking dishonest.
>>285871028
Literally EVERYBODY who responded started defending the points I listed. Why do you even lie about this? Did you think I wouldnt see through that obvious bullshit? And why are you so mad at me?
>>285863864
>>285871098
No, as in it changes depending on where in the game you are in terms of progression. Ie, this area starts in daylight, but after you progress for a while things start getting darker.
We've literally seen several areas in both day and night.
>>285871210
No. It will START in day mode.
Also, torches are for more then light, shit head. Or did the burning fucking werewolves not clue you in?
>>285871324
why do you keep getting b8'd so hard? do you do this every day?
>>285870820
everything you said is true except the part that bullhots don't exist, you need to get ubisoft and sony cock out of your mouth and asshole and think rationally for 5 minutes.
Yes optimisation is a necessary thing, people complain when a game is unoptimised and the same people complain when devs use optimisation devices that make things look worse, becuase people are morons. You can't be so naive to think that certain publishers don't push bullshots to exploit people when conferences and such come up, the number one priority in the studio is to make the demo material look as good as possible and if that means making it look much better than it will on release they don't care.
>>285871395
>We've literally seen several areas in both day and night.
Outside of the first area with the Cleric Beast boss on the bridge, like what? That area is what I've been discussing the whole time. It's the first area in the game, so how are you supposed to progress to make that area darker BEFORE you fight the first boss, like it was in the alpha?
Mfw i'll be enjoying bloodborne while PCucks will be here shitposting
>>285871331
What the fuck are you even saying? People attacked you because you were spouting bullshit that's been established as bullshit. And now you're being attacked because you didn't even bother to verify that you were spouting bullshit, yet still took a stance against fans of BB because you can't think things all the way through.
If you're going to post false crap that people shitpost with, you're going to get shitposts in response. That's why people defend BB so hard - because whenever anyone actually DOES defend the game so hard, it's because someone is posting some bullcrap. I don't get why this is so hard for you to figure out on your own.
>>285871449
No, I just wanted to try calling out some of the tenuous shit in the copypasta's to see what would happen.
The results are alarming
>>285870671
Not that poster but.
>99% of PC library
>calls others delusional.
Lol
Also I'm idort before you respond. I just stepped in because I wanted to say you should have some respect when talking to people more intelligent than you. That guy doesn't deserve dealing with people like you.
Also Persona 5 and Bloodborne, it's hilarious that people consider that flagships to rally behind. I am going to buy them and play them but they're not going to be anything to write home about. Same shit as the games before them with minor changes for better or worse meaning a probably fun but mediocre experience. I bet those PC master race guys are losing sleep over it. Also GTA V, the game no one wants to begin with. And you wonder why PC users don't take you seriously when you eat shit like this up like it's 10/10. You might as well go work for IGN with those standards you'd make a great reviewer I bet.
>>285872258
I am honestly amazed that you still think I was talking about the game at any point for this argument. Well, I wasnt. But you managed to defend it anyway. So good for you, I am sure from will appreciate your efforts. I only hope you will never have the audacity to call anyone a shill. Godspeed, anon.
Every time I see one of those threads, I wonder how many people actually believe in their sweeping generalizations. You can't even think about remarking that one system might be not so bad after all without getting shoved into the "unreasonable fanboy" corner. It's ridiculous.
I don't really watch Bloodborne videos or look at screencaps because I'm probably going to buy it (and a PS4) and I want it to be a completely unspoiled experience. But two things are pretty fucking obvious to me: a.) it will look just fine on the PS4, b.) it would look better on the PC. Also, this stupid obsession with marketing is a very (although not exclusively) American problem and I really wish it would go away because it make everything worse.
>>285872796
You must be a legitimate autist.
You're bitching about fromdrones attacking people for complaining about BB. You posted a bunch of examples, most of which were BS, and then got attacked for that. You then clarified that it didn't matter to you if the complaints were legitimate or not, only that you were pissed that people were getting slammed for having them.
How can you not see how fucking stupid that sounds, or how little sense it makes?
Bloodborne/PS4 giveaway for poorfags who can't get it.
http://fextralife.com/forums/t41656/ps4-and-bloodborne-giveaway/
>>285851180
>>285848743
Yea I'm sure your 30fps vidya achievement powered by a netbook processor and a mid range 2012 gpu is going to be a visually monumental experience. Just like any of the other games released thus far.
>>285873140
I swear pc fanboys are the worst. Funny thing is they don't see that this is the same Nintendo vs Sega bs from the nineties. There is no gaurentee that Sony will ever release this game on pc ever. If you want to play it chances are it will be on a ps4. Who gives a shit about the downgrade since were interested in it for the gameplay and the thing is not being made for high end pc's since its 2nd party. You don't have to take a side, you can own both and if I you can afford a $1,500 rig you can afford a bundle. If $400 is too steep than don't buy it, play a steam game instead, it's that fucking easy!
>>285873207
ive been following this chain and i completely agree with that guy. holy shit man you guys are losing your shit over him listing complaints others had. you couldve EASILY and CALMLY told him from the beginning that they were false and mistaken, yet ALL of you sperged out and got mad and completely proved his point. his point being that you niggers would give your life to protect bb's smile even if the criticisms were valid
>but its all shitposting
dont twist what im saying you queer. there ARE valid criticisms, such as the framerate. you need a good fps for games like this and the dives it takes during fights are also valid. i dont give a shit about your opinion on these, i also dont give a shit about how you plan to defend it. its bad and you know its bad and if you attack me calling me a salty pcuck then youll only further prove that other faggots pointim a nintendog you sonypony faggot
>>285874428
still 30fps more than what a PCuck like yourself will get.
>torch doesn't cast dynamic shadows
>character and NPCs have no shadows
It's worse than DS2. DS2 at least had dynamic shadows for the torches.
>>285873708
+1
I can recommend one of you guys to get more points?
>>285848829
The resolution still 1080p.
>>285876419
Actually it's 900p.
>>285875501
"EARLY BUILD"
>>285876684
The sad thing is this what people will honestly tell themselves.
ITT: Sonygger's pathetic attempts to block out any objective information against their console and downgraded games
>>285875501
except the lighting is about a billion times better than ds2.
>>285875501
Alphaur
https://www.change.org/p/from-software-release-bloodborne-for-the-personalized-computing-platform
>>285876841
>no shadow casting
vs
>shadow casting
Nope, Dark Souls 2 had better lighting even after it was downgraded.
>>285876782
>>285875501
http://www.dualshockers.com/2015/02/07/bloodbornes-graphics-on-ps4-will-improve-from-latest-videos-pc-version-denied-info-coming-on-213/
>>285876886
>PC players make petitions to release games for new platforms
>PS4 cucks make petitions to keep games exclusive
It's pretty obvious who's acting like a spoiled 10 year old.
>Been a fan of the Souls series since Demon's Souls
>Didn't have a PS3
>When Dark Souls came to the PC, I sunk hundreds and hundreds of hours into it
>Decide to buy a PS3 for Demon's Souls
>It's as amazing as I was led to believe
>tfw Bloodborne is looking to be the spiritual successor to DeS but I can't afford a PS4
>The community is split between bickering shitposters and people who actually enjoy the series
>Even if I went out right now and bought a PS4 and Bloodborne, it will never be the same as release Demon's Souls
fug
>>285877228
>enjoy the game’s beauty that can be achieved only with the latest generation of hardware.
>can't even render dynamic shadows
>>285877413
"A fan asked Kitao-san if the visuals of the final vrsion of the game are going to be better than those in the videos published by IGN, and he responded that they’re still improving."
>>285877627
When the game doesn't even have character shadows in the preview build 3 weeks from release I don't have any hopes of any actual improvements.
>>285877794
Actually it's 6 weeks.
New footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6RJD_PD_CE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0FKfK0H9dY
There's your dynamic shadows and particle effects. Now gtfo.
>>285878203
>There's your dynamic shadows and particle effects. Now gtfo.
>still no shadows
I can taste your tears from here.
