ITT: Technically incompetent developers.
A good number of devs who use the Unreal Engines
They are incapable of releasing a finished games, and their games are usually ridden with bugs that rivals Bethesda's on top of that.
>>285750405
>not even trying
Ups, wrong image
TELLTALE GAMES
MOTHERFUCKERS GODDAMN IT
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>>285751201
apart from asura wrath they fucking suck donkey dick
>>285751336
Did you play RAGE?
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>>285750096
>the middle of the G looks like a flaccid dick
No wonder Pokemon has spawned the most and best porn artists. No wonder why they all reside in /vp/.
>>285750096
>Never played Pulseman
>>285750503
and Unity
>>285751683
>pulseman
That game was as buggy as your usual GameFreak game. You can warp your character to the other side of the screen just by pressing a few buttons quickly, the game will slow down tremendously if you shoot your projectile (so this...is the power...of blast processing...whoa), and the collision detection is spotty at best. You can abuse these glitches and play the game in a way it was never meant to be played.
>>285751512
Rage was competent on a technical level though
It's problem was that it was fucking dull in every aspect
Harmoknight was good
>>285751336
When was the last time id made you say wow?
>>285751968
The "megatextures" where prone to fucking up.
>>285751201
New vegas, alpha protocol, and Kotor 2 were all rushed as fuck on a small budget
poor obsidian always gets fucked over by publishers
>>285751512
I need to try it on SSD
>>285751201
>>285752925
Yet they still end up making good games.
>>285753408
yup
Just wish they had access to better resources/ weren't always so rushed
>>285751336
disregard this i suck cocks
>>285751902
>the game will slow down tremendously
For a second, you autistic white fuck.
Two for the price of one!
>>285753742
Double the pleasure!
>>285753937
What is a publisher?
>>285750096
>Drill Dozer is pretty fun though
>>285750096
How is Game Freak "technically incompetent"? Most of their games I've experienced were stable and most of the bugs in their games required significant effort from the player.
>>285751201
>NV release
>stuck in the middle of the road
Ok, lets wait update
>month later
>all saves are kill
Ok, nexus will fix it
>half of fucking year later
>doc stuck halfway
>quickload
>doc's head disappear
Jesus Christ!
>Silver Rush never opened
>>285751201
I guess we'll see who's really at fault here when they'll finally release PoE.
>>285754141
If we're talking about publishers then here's one.
>>285751612
>Hedgehog engine
>Not the best engine on the market
nigga what
>>285754232
they couldn't fit Gold and Silver into a gameboy cartage, Iwata had to come in and do it
X/Y have horrible framerate drops because they use double the necessary polygons for the models.
>>285752925
the idea of taking gamebryo and setting your game in a densely populated, brightly lit urban area is completely irredeemable and has nothing to do with being fucked over by publishers
the fact that most parts of kotor 2 are ridiculously drawn out (see paragus, telos) with petty sidequest shit while the game doesn't even have a proper ending has nothing to do with publishers
paragus had no cut content
think about that, paragus is what happens when obsidian gets their way with no publisher interference
their incompetence is only amplified by publisher interference, it's not a result of it
>>285754404
EA is a mixed bag.
>>285752925
See, it's fine if it happens maybe once or twice. But then it happens with EVERY SINGLE PUBLISHER. They're like fucking Double Fine when it comes to bitching about publishers. Double Fine deserves it though, they always go over budgeted and with Psychonauts, they developed a completely different game than what they told Microsoft and then Microsoft told them to fuck off.
>>285754476
Really? That's what made them incompetent, especially when compared to even worse offenders like Bethesda?
>>285750096
stop posting kaphotics
>>285750096
Every single western developer in the world, they all make games full of dumb bugs, random crashing and framerate issues.
Japanese developers care way way more about technical quality. A game like asscreed unity where people randomly lose their faces would never, ever happen in a japanese game. If there are bugs they tend to be beneficial or just wierd instead of something that makes the game fuck up.
Once again I am only talking about how well the game runs and how bug free it is, and nothing of the games actual quality.
>>285752925
maybe they should make sure what they have works properly before they add tons and tons of half baked content into the game, tons of which is so unfinished it sits on the disk being useless
>>285750096
I swear this guy's opengl experience is literally copy-pasting various online tutorials and hoping it works.
>>285754837
After thinking about it, this is a pretty good point. Sure, I've played Japanese games with bugs in them, but even the buggiest one I've ever played is nothing compared to how buggy western games tend to be.
>>285754837
VNs sure have a lot less bugs and framerate issues, I agree.
>>285754809
Not being able to property compress your game is embarrassing. Especially when an outsider can walk in and do it for you.
>>285754232
>Most of their games I've experienced were stable and most of the bugs in their games required significant effort from the player.
Pokemon Red/Blue had massive amounts of bugs. Perhaps you've heard of the most obscure one of all, MissingNo.? One has to be a hardcore gamer to know that derelict piece of hard-to-reach information
Beyond that, they were incompetent by providing only the bare minimum of what was necessary to milk the series into the future. Instead of shitting out a trunk full of mediocre pokemon (padding it up to what, 650 by now?) they could have pursued 3D much earlier by sticking to the original 150. By creeping all the way to 650 they've undermined one of the core concepts Tajiri set forth so long ago: in order to catch 'em all, you need to trade with a friend and cooperate. But now? There's goddamn 650 of them, and you they don't even all come in the same game. All one needs to do is transfer between save files (PokePark, or whatever it was called) and you can be a solo autist.
So yeah, they're incompetent by undermining the core design of the series. If they were competent they would have realized quality!=quantity and
>capped the number at something more reasonable
>use those same artists to make 3D models of the pokemon post-N64 era
>prevent pokemon transfer between generations
>revamp the gameplay to prevent stagnation (yes, breeding is interesting, yes, separating Special into SP.ATTK and SP.DEF is a good choice, no, both of them aren't meaningful in terms of reforming gameplay).
On and on and on
>>285755024
didn't he make his own physics engine for one of his games? i wouldn't call him technically incompetent
>no one has posted this yet
>the company that can't code a shit looking game to run well on PC, needed an engine to be given to them by Sony along with a ton of cash to survive, and is less than a month ago from releasing a shit looking game even by PS4 standards that will run at sub-30fps
>>285755350
To be fair, Iwata is like a programming savant.
Game Freak will always be full of shitty programmers though. The fact they've been like this since their inception is sad considering how much money they make.
>>285751612
I gotta disagree with that.
Their most recent game (Sonic Lost World) had some design issues, but had zero technical issues. Same with Generations, Colors and Unleashed. All had high framerates, low load times, great graphics and zero technical issues or bugs. Design-wise, well... Generations was mostly solid.
>>285755475
It probably wasn't implemented very well..
>>285751683
>Pulseman
>the game that managed to make the fucking GENESIS slow down to a crawl whenever there were more than 3 sprites on-screen
Have YOU played it?
>>285755475
physics wise its pretty simple. Some verlet based impulses and shitty collision detection.
It also runs entirely serverside.
>>285751497
They're pretty "style over substance". I feel like they have an insane talent for cool cutscenes, chracter design, music and most "artistic" stuff like that. The gameplay just falls so incredibly short in their games.
I still like them, wish they weren't stuck on license cash-grabs.
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>>285755617
Don't forget they released one of the few retail games that is unplayable due to how fucking broken and buggy it is. And you can't blame Kinect, since Sega and Grasshopper did perfectly fine with Kinect.
>>285755665
>The fact they've been like this since their inception is sad considering how much money they make.
That's what is preventing them from getting better, m80. There's no incentive to improve.
It's basically the same situation at Square Enix with their designers. Nearly everyone of note has jumped ship -- Tanaka, Sakaguchi, Uematsu (not design), Matsuno, etc. Itou is relegated to some shitty phone game, presumably because FFXIV 1.0 bombed (thanks to its engine).
All that's left at Square Enix are hacks like Toriyama and Nomura. Somehow, though, they're still solvent.
>incompetent
I'd argue the people at Games Freak are quite competent. Regardless if you like the Pokemon games they are extremely lucrative. Games still sell like hotcakes as well so they seem to be delivering products people want.
Personally I dont like Gen 4-6 but i know the problem is me and nostalgia not the developers seeing as all the recent games are well received and fans love them.
>>285750096
343i
>>285755972
Competent designers.
But we're not talking about design in this thread. We're talking about technical competence. Look at the thread OP.
From a technical perspective, all of Game Freak's stuff runs like fucking garbage.
>>285753587
lol faggot
>>285754232
Are you really defending the people who gave us Missingno?
>>285755961
At least the Love de Lic folk (who are ex-Squaresoft, not ex-Square Enix) are making Nintendo bucks. Shame NONE of their games sell and most don't hit the US.
>>285756076
Halo 4 and 5 run fine from a technical perspective.
Master Chief Collection is an absolute fucking disaster.
>>285755354
the fact that the games are creative black holes has nothing to do with if the game runs well/is technically well made. red/blue are the only real exception and even then most of the glitches either require that you do stuff most people wont think of or straight up require cheat codes like wall walking, and this is on a game that's running on 7 year old hardware that was comparable to the NES.
what was the name of those cunts that made Mercenaries 2? Pandemic? Those ones
>>285750096
They're a bit weak at FPS and actually using the 3D on the 3DS (seriously, Nintendo counts on Pokemon to sell the fucking system, and less than half the game uses the gimmick). I can't think of any notable bugs since Gen 1 and 2, so they don't seem bad on that front.
Design wise, they can fuck themselves. Pokemon has the worst rng trolling ever.
>>285755354
Again, those bugs require player effort, and don't happen during normal play. Also you're just getting into design issues with the games (which is a different ballpark from the technical, like game code and stuff).
>>285756394
I wouldn't class half the moves not working as they're intended to as "exceptional" cases.
>>285756778
Are there really that many? all I remember is that focus energy or whatever straight up doesn't work and that hyper beam doesn't need to cool down if you kill something with it
>>285756956
Here's a start
