More like Dankest Memegeon amirite
>>283930993
What are you implying, anon?
>>283931098
It's the Dark Souls of Nintendo-Hard roguelike memescreaming streamerbait. But it's fun with friends and has waifus so I give it 9/11 would meme again.
>>283931404
What kind of waifus does it have?
>>283931595
The epic and classy fedora-wearing kind.
>>283931595
None. You just get an attachment to certain characters solely because of their ability to fight against the odds.
>>283931404
So its a roguelike
>>283930993
Fun fact:
People like OP are the first to spout memes.
>>283931404
>Fun with friends
?
>>283932295
roguelite is a more fitting term
>>283932295
>>283932647
Oh boy, here we go
>>283930993
>>283931404
>>283932130
Okay, you got me
Now please just stop posting
>fighting cannibal witch
>genuinely unsettled seeing generic arms tweening around in the boiling pot
>witch attacks my 3 guys on deathsdoor
>every single one is a deathblow
>exit game
>uninstall game
>>283932621
You guys are my friends and I talk about it here with you.
>>283931404
I really don't even know what the fuck this means.
Try using more buzzwords next time.
>>283932647
No, it's definitely a roguelike
This hardest part of this game are money problems and inventory space
>Doing fine
>all of a sudden everyone is getting their shit tested
>constantly skipping
>3 crits in a row
>3 of my party member dies before I get to do anything
this game is too hard for me, I finally get to level 3 and lost all my fags from full HP without being able to do anything, How the fuck do I win? The healers heal is utter dogshit, 1HP per turn is completely useless, 3-5 HP is barely anything and enemies focus down one of your party members at a time
>>283938904
>cant use your ability to heal outside of combat
>have to extend fights to do any amount of healing
dropped
>>283931404
Is this a new record for most buzzwords in a single post?
I fucking love the narrator in the game and how hyped he sounds when you kill two enemies or deals a critical
>>283941770
Where do I download this game if I don't want to pay 20 dollars for an unfinished product
>>283942889
How about the usual places? Seriously how could not know?
>game where you can literally not lose
And people say it's hard? Are p2w MMOs hard because you need to grind hours before you can do the content?
>>283930993
More like Edgy Heroes since it is a character generator borefest.
Too much emphasis on character micromanaging, not enough on the, you know, Dungeon part.
>"Darkest Dungeon wears its Lovecraftiness on its sleeve, which means that in addition to freaky monsters, the game embraces madness as a game mechanic."
Why do curators even exist?
>>283930993
At least it wasn't made by Anthony cucking Burch.
>more early access shovelware
What happened to PC gaming? Will actual developers ever return to making PC exclusives?
>>283939003
>no skills outside combat
>keep stunning the last enemy until the party is fully healed
Jesus have these devs ever played any RPG game in their lives? This is full cringe level of game design.
Thats why CRPGs use mana or any sort of skill resource, it is not because it looks good for Christ sake.
>>283930993
What's the meme part? The knights armour? You do realise that Dark Souls based the Elite Knights set on actual fucking armour?
Silly children.
>>283939003
>>283944568
The heals aren't meant to keep up with damage in this game. Sorry if you don't get that.
>>283944018
Don't you have some Ninentendo games to play right now?
>>283944568
Can't do that anymore, they added a stun resistance stat that increases after being stunned so enemies can't be stun locked at the end of a fight to replinish health, and after staying too long in a fight you start ganging major stress
>raised over $300.000 (three hundred thousand american dollars) on kikestarter
>flash game tier graphics and animations
>literally rng: the game, even more so than shit like FTL
>still jew $20 for early access
>people still buy this
>indie devs will keep getting away with bullshit of this caliber
>Steam will continue to support it
You know, I really fucking hate what Dark Souls has done to developers. Not that it was the first hard game ever, but it was the game that started the "PREPARE TO DIE: HARDCORE EPIC DEATHS EDITION" bullshit that games like Darkest Dungeon are perpetuating. What the fuck is that bullshit they give you when you start the game? Something like: you will die and have to abandon quests and run from battles? Fuck you. There's a difference between a game being legitimately challenging and forcing me to git gud (like Dark Souls) and a game *literally* deciding that it's going to generate a map that's impossible for me to complete (like Darkest Dungeon). Making your game hard is like a fucking meme now.
Reminds me of the Long War mod for XCOM where the mod developers thought it was a good idea for maps to be capable of randomly generating impossible alien combinations. Except in that case, it was >doing it for free mod developers instead of the actual game devs.
>>283945842
Nah m8, you just need to git gud.
Also that Long War feature you're so salty about is meant to force either a retreat or sustain losses. Not that it matters as it's part of a longer campaign.
>>283945842
That shit's being spouted because games that don't hold your hand are resurfacing during a casualized era. I don't have a problem with games that expect you to be smart enough to figure it out on your own, but I will agree with the "YOU WILL DIE" as a selling point being aggravating.
>>283946608
I'm all for games that don't hold your hand but why the fuck do they make such a huge deal out of it? Like, why is it literally a marketing feature that the game is slightly more difficult than others?
>>283944914
>>283944915
>that personal aggression
>that suppressed angst
>that buyer's confirmation necessity
Have fun with your us$300.000 RNGfest flash game.
>>283946912
>Implying I paid for early access
>>283946912
I am. Sorry you take things too personally.
>>283946912
Look man, if you're too casual to understand how you'd break the dungeon section by having out of party heals, then you should just stick with games that cater for you.
>>283946874
It's not difficult, it's cheap at best.
>>283941770
>birdy
>not chocobo
Fucking casual
>>283947250
so what you're saying is if RNG is not in your favor you lose
great game design
>>283932647
more like a yolo game
>>283946608
I'm not complaining about games being difficult, I'm complaining about developers misinterpreting what difficulty actually is. If I made a game - let's say it's a platformer for simplicity's sake - where your character had a 25% chance to instantly die every time you jump, would that be a "hard" game? Objectively yes, it would be a difficult game to complete, but having that difficulty does not add anything to the game. In fact, it takes away from it by adding frustration and removing gameplay. Dark Souls is a difficult game, but it's a healthy difficulty, where the player learns from mistakes and progresses based upon their own skill. When you triumph over a boss in Dark Souls, it's because *you* learned the encounter well enough to defeat the boss. For a moment, you forget the frustration of all your deaths when you triumph over a difficult encounter. It's a great feeling.
Conversely, I don't feel like I accomplished shit when I complete a dungeon in Darkest Dungeon. Whether I succeed or fail it doesn't seem like I did anything particular to get there. The gameplay is so shallow that there actually isn't a lot of room for player skill or correct decision making. Roguelikes should always have a healthy amount of RNG, but the keyword there is "healthy". In most situations, this means that the random elements are grounded to a fixed, non-random foundation that the player can build off of. A good example of this would be something like the growths in Fire Emblem; random, yes, but since the unit will always have the same base stats and stat caps and there are stat increasing items, you can work around a bout of bad luck because the game gives you tools to work with. In Darkest Dungeon, everything you do besides movement has an element of chance attached to it. Even mechanics such as relieving stress (which should be fixed) have random elements crammed into them at every opportunity possible. That doesn't make a game difficult, it makes a game irritating.
It's mildly entertaining at the start but it really becomes increasingly boring since it's so repetitive.
And no a few token enemy changes doesn't really change that.
>>283946430
>Also that Long War feature you're so salty about is meant to force either a retreat or sustain losses
Yea, no shit that's what it's for. The point is that it's fucking retarded, and he's right. Why is it okay for the game to randomly decide whether a map is winnable or not? It wasn't like that in the original game because the developers wanted to make a game that was actually fun and not some meme bullshit about a REALISTIC ALIEN INVASION SOMETIMES YOU LOSE LOL
>>283947549
Ever heard of mitigating things out of your control? Can't have 'YOU'RE A WINNER!' served up to you all the time dude. That's bad for character.
I bet you're a fucking hoot at Monopoly too.
>>283948292
Because you feel like a real man after you win against stupid odds.
http://youtu.be/TwO9YV6sZ4Y
>>283931404
Nice post, anon.
>>283946912
$300.00??? I bought this shit for $10 wtf
>>283948469
But some of the maps the game can generate are literally impossible. Not impossible as in you need to get lucky, impossible as in you actually cannot complete them.
>>283948845
Any more impossible than a 6 man supply ship, with ballistics, seeker pods and giant overseers?
Beagle says it right, there's no shame in withdrawel. It's how you adapt your strategy to counter moments where you feel you aren't able to win.
>Friend names all his characters after your group
>Everybody in the group is incredibly shit
>Except you, who is single-handidly carrying the party
>tfw
>>283944547
So did the people behind DayZ blow all the money they made off of retards for prositutes and drugs or what?
Barely no updates in over a year and their only excuse is still "muh alpha".
>>283949247
Every now and again I text the friend who misses their critical shot to call them a disappointment.
>>283931404
Fuck off to [s4s] retard. This thread is complete garbage.
>>283944568
While I can see being annoyed by it I can see why. Heals in this game are used to prolong the dungeon crawl, not outright full party heal. I'm not sure how they could fully balance it.
They should have put in an in game reason like "The gods only have so much power to give, and will only grant it in the heat of battle when you need it the most"
I still don't see why people like >>283945249 and >>283945842 and >>283947549 say the RNG makes the game unbeatable. If you back the bare minimum supplies maybe. I've always made sure to pack an extra stack of food and at least 1 of each item to "cure" the interactables in that specific dungeon. The money spent for this is negligible as you normally end the mission with twice as much gold. You plan for the worst each time. I've had times when I got crit multiple times to my whole pary and still recovered. Even just upgrading your armor once makes the game too easy I feel.
There are better things to complain about in this game. Like hunger being random even after just eating and lack of a turn order screen.
>can't take level 3 characters to level 1 dungeons to grind some levels
>takes a level 3 party to a level 3 dungeon
>fully upgraded weapons/skills
>gets completely obliterated with not even a chance of surviving, not even the best RNG would help.
>hours of playing lost because MUH ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY
>enjoying being fucked up by shitty design
>heh crymoar casual, dis game is hardcore, hey where is eveyrone, plz respond, i don't wanna be alone
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>>283950720
>I still don't see why people like >>283945249 and >>283945842 (You) and >>283947549 say the RNG makes the game unbeatable
No one you quoted said that RNG makes the game unbeatable. Go fuck yourself.
>>283950720
>enemies go at the end of the round
>enemies start off going first at the beginning of the next round
>character goes from full health to death's door because crit was involved
>on character's turn they get deathblow'd by bleed
yeah seriously fuck this gameRIP Paulina. You were the best plague doctor ;_;
Can't spell Darkest Dungeon without RNG
Fun for a couple hours before you realize how bullshit the entire game is. 100% of the game is RNG, except the upgrade system. Glad I didn't pay for it.
>Doing my first mission after the tutorial with Reynauld, Dismas, and the 2 others you get at the beginning
>Let torches go out because better rewards sounds sweet
>Things are going relatively well
>Get to the last room
>Fight takes a drastic turn for the worst. Everyone is flipping their shit
>Plague Doctor gets executed
>Vestal starts crying and repeatedly screaming that she doesnt want to die
>Dismas goes heroic but is brought down shortly after
>Vestal dies
>Reynauld reveling in pain
>He manages to bring it home in the end by himself
>Everyone is dead but him and hes lost his fucking marbles
>>283952527
>Try to get more experience for my level 3 guys by taking them into lower dungeons
>THIS IS BENEATH ME
>GIVE ME A REAL CHALLENGE
>THIS IS A WASTE OF MY TIME
Yeah, go fuck yourselves you cocky pieces of shit.
>>283952527
>Whines about being bad, and not having crutches for his incompetence, like a cretin.
>>283952754
>>283945249 said
>literally rng: the game, even more so than shit like FTL
Where the game legit can be impossible due to RNG never giving you enough time to fully explore and kit out your ship.
>>283945842 said
>and a game *literally* deciding that it's going to generate a map that's impossible for me to complete (like Darkest Dungeon).
Take note of the "impossible to complete"
>>283947549 basically says RNG can make you lose without any control which I contest.
So yes they basically did say that the game can randomly become unbeatable.
RNG in this game tends to make things harder or easier, never outright put you in a fail state unless you yourself set it up for that. Don't get me wrong, there can be ALOT of bullshit with the RNG in this game and I admit it can be heavy at times, but honestly the hardest part is the first couple of dungeon runs until you unlock everything in the town. Once you upgrade your healers spells once and get one level of armor your survival skyrockets.
It still needs some balancing. I feel the speed/turn order is the biggest issue as its inconsistent.
When did you grow out of Lovecraft and MUH UNSPICABLE HORRUH?
>>283945249
because it's a god-tier game, not for meme kiddies alike
>>283954665
A dungeon being impossible to complete does not mean the game is unbeatable. Learn how to fucking read dude.
>>283930993
>>283934867
Sickdark.
>>283954710
went from metal to hipster. disgusting.
So any game that is hard is a roguelike now?
>>283954594
>euphoric
>DayZ
>Godus
>Starbound
WHEN WILL YOU PEOPLE LEARN TO NEVER TRUST EARLY ACCESS ALPHAS
That being saidDankest Dungeon is definitely worth the pirate
>Game is clearly "hard" in the same way thar Dark Souls is "hard', people are just shit at video games
>Never lose a man
>Get 10 characters all but maxed out
>Two of the three tier 5 bosses killed
>Set up a perfect cycle in which all negative quirks are expunged and stress is a non-issue
>Suddenly RNG decides my time has come, and a rain of crits and misses wipes my entire party on the second fucking battle of a map
I am beyond mad, and will likely never touch this game again out of sheer butt hurt.
I mean, it's pretty dank. I'm having fun with it even thoughmy only good heroes got wiped out by a boss and I almost lost everything.On a side note, some the RNG in this game is ridiculous. I was using a random party to go into a dungeon just to waste a week for my good heroes. I sent them in with 0 provisions. All but one of them made it through the entire thing, in the dark, with no food and no camp. I couldn't do it again if I tried.
>>283955665Which boss?
>>283955557
Should've just retreated :^)
>>283954904
someone needs to make one with sea raider holding a skull
>>283955767The Hag Witch or some shit. The one who puts one of your dudes in the cauldron.I kind of fucked myself back when I started the game by upgrading the wrong things in town, and then I didn't level up a party good enough to actually deal enough damage to her, even if she didn't steal on person every time I had a full rotation. I'm going to keep playing this run as long as I can, but next time through I'm going to plan it out a little better. I also had a foolish attachment to party members and quickly realized that trying to keep people with quirks who were insane was not really worth it.I also didn't get a healer for 8 weeks after my original one died.
>>283955861I didn't even know that you could do that inside of battle...
Game could use a complete overhaul, keep the art assets but replace the linear luck/grind gauntlet with choices, resources, tactical decisions, skill-checks, opportunities to use party skills out-of-combat. The success should depend on the player's choices, not the generation dungeon layout, hunger event, and the miss/hit roller.
>>283936459
As I understand it has overlying progression, so it's not a roguelike. I think roguelike-like is the proper term here.
>>283956153
Yipes. Yeah I upgraded the wagon since it was the first thing I saw
>>283956180I didn't realize it until it was too late.
>>283955861
>>283956180
>>283956697
How do I do it? Last time I got a bad bitch healer after 8 weeks and then immediately lost her. It hurt my soul.
>>283936459
But it's not like "Rogue" at all.
>>283954821
>being this butt-blasted over minor details
>>283956697
>>283956180
>>283955861
The first boss fight, against the Nmancer, I was getting my shit pushed in and was desperately searching for the retreat button. I didn't find it, but somehow managed to win with just one crusader at zero HP.
>>283957336
I was at the last room of a dungeon, and shocker, a battle ended up happening. 3 of my party members went batshit and started either self harming or refusing to fight. Fucking Mavis the Grave Robber pulled her shit together and 1v4'd the monsters. Rip in peace Mavis, you will be missed.
>TBS
into the trash it goes
>>283959201
lmao
>Fighting the first hag boss
>My vestal and Occultist get BTFO
>Hellion and Crusader left
>Get her down to like 10 hp
>both are at death's door
>MEAT TENDERISER
>"No please no pls"
>They survive FIVE tenderisers in a row
>Crusader gets a lucky crit on his holy lance
GET FUCKED YOU SKANK
>>283958782
You got one for Hellion or Leper?
>>283959967
Rip in peace Montague
>>283959798
Can I ask what level your party was when you tried that, because im pretty sure i tried way too early and got my shit pushed in. Also, which dungeon/boss am I supposed to be completing first?
>>283959967
>>283960065
Rip in peace Freestyle
>>283940625
>The Dark Souls of ____
>Nintendo-hard
>roguelike
>meme-screaming
>streamerbait
>fun
>waifus
>9/11
>meme
I count nine buzzwords. An average of 4.5 buzzwords per sentence.
>>283960320
>>283960065
Are these just the ones from the website with the text covered up?
>tfw no good plague doctor porn
>>283960186
They were all level 2's, but I had pretty much upgraded all of them at least once (skills and armor + weapons) and they had some good trinkets.
I think Necromancer Apprentice is easiest, then Hag, then Swine Prince
>>283960470
Yes. I thought the text ruined them so I spent last night editing all the text, logos, and website out. I can post all of them if you want.
>>283960538
Yeah, I did it with all 1's and went straight for Hag. I dun goof'd and lost those I cared about. Rip in peace Arthas.
>>283960725
please do
>>283954710
Lovecraft shit was never interesting to me.
Unless you consider Demon's Souls' aesthetic Lovecraftian, then maybe.
>>283960821
I've also yet to get an Arbalest, Houdmaster, or Man at Arms. Im assuming I have to just upgrade the stagecoach to unlock them.
>>283960519
>walk into hag's room for the first time
>didn't know it was the Boss room because there were two possible paths and I hadn't scouted
>she grabs my Leper and throws him in the pot
>decide to retreat so I can camp and use up my remaining food
>The Leper is gone forever
I can't be the only one this shit happened to.
