Project M
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What does /v/ think of Project M?
I think its the best Super Smash Bros. ever.
Love it.
>>276967061
Is it possible to play this on a proper console?
>>276967214
?? Wii with GameCube ports is what it was originally designed for.
>>276967214
PC and Wii U can play it.
That's because it is the best smash bros ever
it's an expanded and slightly more lenient melee
The only thing wrong with it is the absurdly small horizontal blast zones
Most people I've shown this game to liked this much more than Brawl/Sm4sh. If there was a PM to Sm4sh, it'd probably overtake sm4sh. Too bad PM is going to suffer because Nintendo hates it, OH WELL.
>>276967061
>What does /v/ think of Project M?
That is has no right to exist. This is not the board to discuss any modding of SSB. At all. I think it's a nice mod, even if there are character changes that I flatout disagree with. I wish I had people to play with, though.
I enjoy playing it and it massively improved the piece of trash that brawl originally was. If they added a Lucina skin for marth then I would have no reason to play sm4sh
It's pretty good.
It's also going to die.
>implying a mod to Super Smash Bros. Brawl is the best on the series
>Brawl Minus been much better
WTF, OP?
>>276967540
to save you from getting your hopes up they won't, because 1.Lucina isn't already licensed to be in Brawl, and 2.The dev team generally avoids making skins that are actually completely different people (Ike's is considered a "cosplay" and Dark Meta Knight is an exception but works for obvious reasons)
>>276967540
You can just figure out how to mod the model into marth by yourself. I'm pretty sure someone already have done it
>>276967860
If they would release the way they insert the models into the game I would do it myself. I haven't looked recently but I remember when I did look for tutorials on how to add your own models into the game all I could find was ancient stuff that only let you pull vertexes around
Super Smash Bros. Brawl wasn't that bad.
Brawl brought us third-party characters, a real adventure mode, Smashville, the versions of Final Destination and Battlefield shits on the Melee's version and was the base for Project M.
Still far better then the first Super Smash Bros. game.
>>276968014
Oh well shit I took 3 seconds to google and you were right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPqZf6GjtTI
How about that now I don't even need to touch sm4sh
>>276968027
Oh, you can already do that on your own; just hope that someone already makes/is planning on making a Lucina model and all you have to do is download it and install it. There are tutorials to do this, but the basic idea is you go to Brawl Vault (part of a brawl mod site called kittycorp) and download whatever skin you want, then put it in the character's folder within the project m directory in the sd card.
I'm looking into getting a Wii in the next couple of months and hacking it. Which Brawl mod is better? Are all of PM's features still runnable on a Wii?
Do either of them fix Falco going into free fall after side-Bing like Kerfuffle did?
Its shit compared to melee
>>276968918
>Which Brawl Mod is better?
Subjective but Project M has the most advanced tech of the modding scene by far.
> Are all of PM's features still runnable on a Wii?
No netcode, but I don't think the netcode build for 3.5 is out anyway. I just play it on Wii myself.
>Do either of them fix Falco going into free fall after side-Bing like Kerfuffle did?
I don't know how to answer this question.
http://youtu.be/oOVgKB5-vZo
>>276969006
How?
>>276969196
classic
>>276969126
Obviously Brawl Minus is more technical then Project M.
Project M's soundtrack is meh compare to Brawl's original soundtrack and Brawl Minus has them.
>>276967478
>absurdly small horizontal blast zones
Though I agree with the first bit you said, I think you've been playing too much Smash 4. Blast zones in PM are nearly perfect.
>>276969342
Melee is smoother and faster.
Also Project M's Mewtwo is even more overpowered then SSBB's Meta Knight.
I was surprised how simple it was. I mainly play Melee and only casually play PM but I played with some dedicated PM players in friendlies at a tournament last weekend expecting to get wrecked and thoroughly stomped them.
Characters feel a lot more easier to use as well.
>>276969342
Easier then melee in every way.
Easier to pull combos.
The hits are not as random as they are in melee the physics suck.
Its also about 1/4th the speed of melee
In melee I have been playing 13 years and I still do new things. I spiked someone with an up b attack using peach.
>>276969342
Because everything is worse than melee when your a fucking retard obviously.Anyway I quit 3.5 Melee top tiers have way to much bias and have made then all either stupid strong or piss poor and wont be changed simply because melee players don't want them to be.
>>276967061
People treat Project M as an entry in the Smash series?
>>276969595
>The hits are not as random as they are in melee
Isn't that a good thing?
>>276969495
Nah man they're way too small on some levels
There's others but the one sticks out to me is Hyrule castle
you get jabbed on the edge of the stage and you're dying
>>276969695
Yes, Project M is a SSB game.
>>276969695
What else would it be? Are you arguing semantics or something?
>>276969735
Uh no because in melee you could counter every random hit. So you had to actually learn the game. Smash PM seems like its the same speed hits all the fucking time.
>>276968918
Get both PM and Brawl Minus. They're both fun and have their own merits. If you have 2 SD cards, you can keep one ready with PM and one with minus.
Yes they freefall after side b.
>>276969695
Not sure why, but yep.
>>276969692
They are worse then Meta Knight.
They screwed up worse then Sakurai.
>>276969861
I've played Melee for years and I have absolutely no idea what the fuck you're even talking about. You mean like Luigi's missfire and Peach's golf club swing?
>>276969587
>Smoother
I guess, but not... significantly.
>faster
Not really.
>Mewtwo is overpowered
Okay, you just haven't played 3.5 then. The physics and Mewtwo have been polished.
>>276969595
>Easier than Melee in every way
which means better character balance, yes?
>Easier to pull combos
I don't see how that's a flaw
>The hits are not as random as they are in melee the physics suck.
What does that even mean?
>Its also about 1/4th the speed of melee
Incorrect.
>In melee I have been playing 13 years and I still do new things. I spiked someone with an up b attack using peach.
Then experiment with PM to learn even more things. Melee hasn't been updated since PAL, but PM's newest version came out about a month ago. Also what you said is not an objective game design flaw.
Anybody want to play today or tonight?
>>276969743
I believe all the returning stages have blastzones/collisions from 64.
>>276969949
Yes, I have.
Lucas and Mewtwo are worse then N64 Pikachu and Brawl Meta Knight.
>>276969595
>I spiked someone with an up b attack using peach.
Was that, by chance, a stage spike?
>>276970062
>Lucas and Mewtwo are worse then N64 Pikachu and Brawl Meta Knight.
ayy lmao
>>276970015
I found fucked up that Hyrule Castle is in the game.
>>276970062
They've been mega nerfed in 3.5. I wouldn't be surprised if they're still top 10, but worse than Brawl MK? You can't be playing the same version.
>>276969940
You can balance combos off of people better the game is designed for combos in melee.
Designed like every hit could be random but you can still combo.
PM ITS THE SAME HITS OVER AND OVER.
>>276969949
No it means more boring gameplay and less to figure out
>>276970062
They're not as bad in 3.5 as they used to be.
>>276970170
I take it you don't go to many Smash tournaments.
>>276969587
>He hasn't played 3.5 yet
>>276969907
>Copy Sakurai
>Worse than Sakurai
Anon, your bias is showing.
Marth is dumb as fuck in 3.5.
>>276970113
They seriously do.
Combos are extremely easy and powerful like Pikachu did on N64 and have the speed advantage that Meta Knight had in Brawl.
>>276970170
Is English not your first language? "You can balance combos off of people better the game". What the fuck are you trying to say? Every hit could be random? I'm pretty sure you can't combo Mario's Fsmash into Dtilt in any game.
>>276967525
If they hated it they would've shut it down years ago.
>>276970272
>Marth is dumb as fuck in 3.5.
Marth is pretty much exactly the same, outside of some sound effects.
>>276970169
How many years have passed since you last played vanilla Brawl?
I like it. They made Roy good.
>>276969760
>>276969857
>implying
>>276970234
Yes, they do.
>>276970390
Allow me to ask you again:
Have you played 3.5? Lucas and Mewtwo were NERFED.
>>276970091
Fox ledgeguarding looked like he was rolling up instead of doing that he got instantly spiked to his death.
>>276970483
Yes, but not much.
I like what they did to Ganondorf and Zero Suit Samus.
>>276970303
>Combos are extremely easy
Anon, most characters have that going for them in PM. Less than 3.0, but you can get shit done with anyone. It might just seem jarring because most of us are playing Smash4 also.
>>276970238
Wanna play melee with me.
>>276970170
Any decent Mario player in melee can
Not pm
Anyone on the west coast or more specifically the Pacific Northwest down for some netplay?
>>276970574
>and Zero Suit Samus.
Still don't like most of her changes. I'm going to have to get over it, though.
>>276970389
By nerfing everyone that isn't protected by the melee bubble hes moved from B tier to top.Really viable Melee characters just need to be open to change because when they refuse to nerf them but nerf everyone else its just fucking stupid it even hurts Jigglypuff and ICs which at most they will barely tweak.
>>276970327
No you can.
>>276970574
I guess it remains to be proven with the tournament data, but I'd easily bet Lucas and Mewtwo are not that OP anymore.
>>276970574
No tether grab is fantastic, but I think the animation still needs work. One of their weakest ones.
I'm not really feeling Ganondorf though. I miss his old Fsmash. Maybe it's just my mind, but I feel like it isn't as strong as it once was.
>>276970763
By not much I meant the nerf wasn't enough.
>>276967061
>not wanting fox to take your anal virginity
>>276970868
I want Sheik to take my virginity.
>>276970808
Ganon's Fsmash didn't get changed at all outside of the animation
Hover is fucking amazing, the reflector is pretty eh since the timing is weird, but it gives you a jab reset that doesn't knock people away which is great
>>276970858
I'd believe it when I see it. Emukiller was talking quite a bit about how he has to make up for the changes that Mewtwo has. The tail length nerf hits harder than you might think.
Haven't played it and I never will.
But that new Zelda alt is HNNNNNNG
>>276971046
Still, does 2 are worse then N64 Pikachu and Brawl Meta Knight.
>>276968365
>60fps
oh my god why is the video so laggy
I like what they did to Ness, Snake and Diddy Kong.
>>276971220
I seriously doubt that. Give people time to figure out how well balanced 3.5 is. Just off the bat though Mewtwo can't be used quite the same way anymore.
I think Sakurai and Nintendo should feel embarrassed that a group of random dudes have better ideas and concepts than real fully-funded teams of professionals and an overpaid ideas guy (Sakurai).
In order for it to not go stale, Sakurai needs to go. He already prefers Brawls set of code rather than actually changing every Smash game to feel different. Smash 5 will probably just be a Smash 4 update, and nothing else. It's gonna feel the same and nothing will change, and that will kill Smash. Yes, Smash can die if it doesn't evolve, even on a casual level. Sakurai intends to keep using the Smash 4 code and physics since he actively hates Melee and anything related to it.
I'm guessing it does sting him and Nintendo a bit that so many people enjoy playing PM more than the official games. Instead of being butthurt about it, they should take notes. PM is even a better casual game than Brawl.
>>276971119
Just try it man. It's pretty easy to install.
I main Roy and Wolf, but I want someone aggressive like them but is better at dealing with projectiles
any ideas?
>>276968343
Eh, I like Melee's FD more. You can't get stuck under the fucking lips of the stage in that one
>>276971378
>quiet
So the changes are subtle?
Then who has the 1st place on the tier list?
Fox or who?
>>276971119
Why won't you ever play it?
>>276971489
Learn to Powershield I guess
Ness is good though
>>276971489
Isn't Wolf great with projectiles because of his reflector? You just have touse it for it's intended purposes.
>>276971382
This team has problems of their own they let certain parts of the community bully them into certain bullshit in the game.
>>276971414
I'm not intrested in playing it.
Most I would do is just start it up and take pictures of Zelda.
>>276967061
its too bad the competition scene is pretty much dead because they blacklisted the game from not just being streamed but also being played at tournies
>>276971382
Just stop.
You are retarded.
>>276971382
Yep
This is why I refuse to acknowledge Nintendo as a game company
>>276971531
Whatever tier lists are floating around right now are speculative at best. We've only had about a month with the new version.
I think for 3.0, diddy was still the most broken since he was easy to play for huge reward. Lucas and mewtwo were strong too, but people were adjusting to them. Mario were rising in the end of 3.0 as tons of top players were picking him up.
I think 3.5 fix a lot of problem and smooth the game out. There don't seem anything broken right now.
I would have to say that PM is easier than melee, but not in a bad way. Many characters, like spacies, snakes, etc.., still hahe high skill, high reward trait. Some characters, especially many of the reworked brawl and low tier melee, are easier to pick up for intermediate level, but aren't really broken in 3.5 anymore.
>>276967214
Your supposed to play it on your wii
just go on the website
>>276971637
The truth is retarded?
Call of duty is better of a game then quake!!
>>276971347
because the HTML5 player is trash
>>276971382
Because Sakurai doesn't think he's making a fighting game - he's making a party game, for that purpose he's succeeding at it.
But why the fuck wouldn't Nintendo attempt to endorse this? There are companies willingly attempting at making their game into a competitive played one, yet here the players themselves are attempting to do it because they like the premise so much. Response from Nintendo? "Go fuck yourself". And Sakurai literally implementing things to make it less competitive.
>>276971769
2 and 4 are better then Quake.
>>276971694
>I would have to say that PM is easier than melee, but not in a bad way.
This. People need to learn the difference between personal preferences and good game design, honestly.
>>276971664
And those months have been split with Smash 4.
>>276971580
But if I do that, I get stuck in hitstun and people just jump over their projectile and get a free hit on me
>>276971595
Unless the projectile is far away from you, you'll get punished from the end lag of the reflection. It's why you don't see Lucas/Ness mains use their magnets as intended either.
>>276971913
>But muh opinion is fact!
This is why /v/ can't discuss video games.
>>276971897
Maybe if you shoot yourself in the head first
>people been this butthurt over Meta Knight
>>276972046
PM has wider windows so tech is easier.
>>276971347
The video is at half speed to emulate 60fps by setting the speed in the player to 2.
>>276971531
Some people are saying Sheik. Almost everyone got nerfed but she stayed almost completely the same. But like this guy said: >>276971664
3.5 is still way too new to have a tier list.
>>276971948
Didn't know that. I don't play spacies ever. I guess power shielding is the way to go then.
>>276972189
Yes and people will say that's shit because they can't distinguish between opinion and fact. This board has the most entitled anons on all of 4chan.
>>276971951
Meant for this guy: >>276971580
>>276972284
Or just don't(or do) get hit by the damn projectile. Power shielding reliably isn't going to happen very often.
>>276967061
I thinkall the Smash games are great in their own way and I love them allyes even you BrawlBut I do love Project M the most. Lucario and Wario are so fun to use
>>276972189
So?
It's the decision-making that matters, and you still significantly benefit from being frame perfect.
>>276968343
Content wise it's the best in the series by far. I enjoyed the core gameplay too but I can definitely see why someone else wouldn't.
So no one's down for some netplay, then?
>>276972603
>So?
I just threw it out there since it seemed like no one understood what that other anon was talking about.
>>276970620
anyone?
