Where are your mains, /v/?
Also I should point out that these are based on tournament results in Japan.
Never in my life did I think I would see Olimar sharing a tier with fucking Ganondorf.
>>268467671
>Zard down to E
Never did I think the Japs would go full retard, he was where he belonged before in D.
>>268468191
This list is what this guy is referencing.
Has there ever been a fighting game with only one tier?
>>268468424
Nope.
I main yoshi
I wish puff was like she was in melee ;_;
>>268468424
No. Tier lists change as metagame evolves, so, as long as a fighting game keeps being alive and tech keeps being produced tier lists will change.
>sakurai says samus is the strongest character during e3
>bottom tier in the final version
What went wrong?
Charizard is great for online where you get stupid spammy people that inevitably get hit by side B.
Bait characters with a dair that slams on the ground like a buttpound or what have you, free kills.
This is by far the gayest top tiers I have ever seen.
>Yoshi
>Graynigger
>Bowser
>Furcario
>Sonic
>Fox
>Diddy
>Meme dog
They have every base covered for your average animal fucker.
Also
>Nintendo's lightning
>Shitter suit samus
>Le epic jewish fat man xd
Fuck it, I'm going back to my SSB64
>>268468779
Sakurai's idea of balance is pretty broad. He'd say that Ganondorf is a good character because of Home-Run Contest.
B and E.
I've already been blocking diddy, zss, and rosalina players by default, so I think the list is pretty accurate.
>kirby will never be as good as he was in 64
>ever again
Every one of my mains that I picked before release/after playing a little bit is either A or B. I like it.
>shulk
>D
give it 4 more tournaments, he'll jump to A/high B tier
>>268467671
B, C and D. Not bad.
>>268467671
I main Rosalina, Sheik, and ZSS
Only faggots would choose shit characters
Enjoy not winning
>>268467671
tiers are for queers
>>268467671
>Ganon
>in the last tier
You really need to________getgud______
>>268469138
Is he actually bad? I remember everyone saying he was one of the best characters before.
>Megaman up to C
I see shitters are starting to git gud. He 's upper C tier imo.
>>268467671
E
like i give a fuck
>>268469241
He's only low on everyone's tiers because they automatically go to his Smash Art and spam smashes.
>>268467671
>want to like ZSS because of how much I fap to her
>don't like most of her attacks
Welp. I like Sheik but it feels like I can't kill anyone.
>>268469604
The issue with megaman is that he's a mid tier character with a shit high skill cap
The amount of work required to learn him hurts him
CDE. Still rekking ass in For Glory though, Ike and Cap are real killers. Dx3 is good too.
B, B, C, and D.
Guess
>>268469698
If you get into the groove, it's fairly easy to combo into an up-b, which can KO if you're high enough up in the air/high enough percentage.
>>268469853
Fox Falcon Megaman Shulk
>>268469853
CF Ness Dedede Ganondorf
>Yoshi on top
My fucking nigga
Yoshi is way too good.
Samus is my secondary.
>>268467671
This list is just some random guys thoughts. It is no authority.
>>268469976
Falcon is correct
>>268467671
B and D, Wario is my sole character at B, while Shulk, Ike, and WFT are chilling at D.
>>268467671
Japan needs to git gud at Shulk and Palutena. At least they helped her in Conquest mode.
ZSS, Rosalina, and Sheik
Picked them all before the game's release. Don't even give a fuck.
>>268470052
Wario Jiggly Game and Watch
No way Marth is that low. He's still high tier, his air game was nerfed since brawl but every other aspect seemed to be slightly buffed, especially that counter (all counters seem OP)
B, C, D and E
>>268470139
Nope
>>268468779
balance to the designers is probably vastly different than balance for the people dedicated to picking the game apart, seeing all the possible techniques and exploits and putting it back together
>>268469762
His skill cap isn't really that high. It's just that he NEEDS to land his crash bomb, and the average player that tries to pick up megaman doesn't even use it.
Megaman's real problem is the overabundance of reflect moves. Making sure you don't end up killing yourself against such characters is where the mad high skill cap comes in.
>>268470258
Well fuck I don't know.
Mac Duck Robin
Last time I'll guess
>>268470379
Mac is correct
Captain Falcon, Little Mac, C, and D.
Can't wait til people learn how to play Palutena and she shoots all the way up to B or C tier.
>A
ZSS and sheik
>B
Bowser, mac, and falcon
>D
Link
>E
Samus, Ganondorf, Charizard
>>268467671
>Kirby
>E Tier
These two mains are all I need. fuck tiers
>>268469670
do people actually do this?
do you mean the buster?
>>268470816
scrubbiest mains i've seen yet
>>268467671
Ganondorf, Little mac, kingdadidou, wario, sheik.
Its kinda sad that olimar got nerfed to the ground, and i still don't understand why or how rosalina is on A/SS tier.
>>268470816
you better not one of those faggot links that just spam boomarang and arrows.
>>268471338
luma
gives her insane area control
plus, it fucking comes back in like 7 seconds what the fuck sakurai
>My two ninja mains on top
Well damn, feels pretty good.
>Luigi on bottom
Fuck...
>>268471229
>nigga can't handle the best rush down character OR the best keep away character.
>People talking about "Tiers" based on one tournament held in Japan a month after release
LOOK AT HOW LOW LUCINA AND ROBIN AND PIT ARE. THAT'S FUCKING RETARDED.
>>268471608
>best rush down
you mean the one that I grab, throw off stage, and a simple edgeguard kills him?
>best keep away
duck hunt
>>268471419
>Only use arrows to fully charge when opponent is off stage
>Spam boomerang and neutral kick on approach
I think I'm only half as faggy as normal Links
Why is it always the lame characters at the top of every tier list ever? Why can't the interesting characters ever be good
Rosalina was top tier in fucking MK8 as well, I hate that fucking character
>>268468424
Street Fighter 1 probably
The characters are pretty balanced.
>B:
Cap, Ness
>D:
DK
Well, at least it's good to see that Dong isn't considered the bottom of the barrel anymore
>>268470047
Define non-random guy.
>>268471697
>picking on noobs playing Little Mac
>Lying to yourself about Link
>>268470816
What is the name of this site again?
>>268472159
http://www.eventhubs.com/tiers/ssb4/
Well, Eventhubs still hates him, but >Eventhubs
>>268467671
>A
Diddy (How do I git gud with him? I just went like 1-2/3 against some cheap Lucinafag.)
>B
Sanic, Bowz (don't play as either of them very often, though
>C
Jiggs and Bowz Jr. among a few others, but mostly just Jiggs.
>D
DKOh god, this really depresses me. Diddy is somewhat alright but DK is just too damn slow.
>>268467671
>ness in B tier
I'm skeptical that he'll remain there. Dispite his buffs he has the same problems he always had. His range is as short as ever, his recovery is janky, his projectile game is unsafe against a lot of characters due to starting/ending lag, and his kill moves are pretty predictable (though effective).
Given how most Ness players seem to follow a flowchart I imagine people will get more used to fighting and countering Ness than a lot of other characters, too. That's more of a metagame thing, though.
>>268468779
Sakurai rarely plays his own game due to crippling boneitis, take his opinions on that sort of thing with a big bowl of salt.
>>268472489
DK's back-air is godly off-stage. He's really good against almost all of the anime swordsmen
Do points contributed affect your reward from conquest?
>>268467671
Isn't the Japanese smash scene much weaker than the US scene?
>Yoshi, Rosalina, Bowser Jr, ROB, Charizard
Breddy gud, but I think Charizard should be at least D tier
>main Greninja
>every other main is D or lower
>shulk
>D
oh these poor niggers won't know what's coming
>>268469670
Even as people get more experience with him, I doubt he'll move up to high tiers (unless stance cancelling attacks really takes off). His moves have lots of starting frames and his kill moves have really narrow hitboxes with massive ending lag. I've had the most luck gimping recoveries with Jump stance for kills, to be honest.
>Kirby
>E
What the fuck, he's definitely not that bad
>>268467671
Main Ganon and only Ganon.
I have no regrets.
Do you main your waifu, /v/?
>>268471671
>look at how low my mains are
Also competitive players who've had the game for 37 days and have been hosting tourneys for it since release are more trustworthy than scrubs on /v/ and eventhubs.
This list is obviously not definitive but it's the best we have until the meta evolves.
Haven't gotten to play the game yet, but my main has always been Ness.
Did they change much about him since brawl? Part of me has always wanted him to be more tourney viable.
>>268473291
yeah
How the fuck is Samus THAT low?
>>268467671
>Mega Man C-tier
>Samus is lower than Mega Man
>Robin is lower than Mega Man..
>Link is lower than Mega Man.
This list is bullshit.
The only accurate elements of it are that Ganondorf's and Palutena's base movesets are terrible and Shiek, Yoshi, and Rosalina blow the rest of the cast away.
>>268473469
>maining nintendo's lightning
>>268473610
>>268467671
B - Falcon
C - Dedede
D -Lucina
E - Ganon
>>268468308
C - Falcon
D - Dedede
D -Lucina
E - Ganon
A lot of characters would go up a few notches if custom moves were allowed in FG.
He's top-tier in the only thing that matters.Fighting for his friends.
I'm significantly better with Ganon and Palutena than I am with any of the top tiers, even against stronger players.I guess I should just go back to SF and save myself the suffering.
>Mega Man gaining ground
The air game is real when you're the blue bomber.
>>268467671
A-Greninja
B-Bowser
D-Dong and T.Link
E-Samus
>>268473227
you can see his moves coming a mile away
Why the hell is Marth any higher than Lucina? They're practically identical except for the blade thing -- but I think that just comes down to preference.
>>268469604
>>268469762
>>268470371
Megaman will rise in tier, at least in NA scene. I tried him out and he has a really strong moveset. He's a much safer projectile user compared to duck hunt or villager. Reflect move rarely is the main reason to deters using a character with projectile, especially the one with good non-projectile moveset like megaman.
>>268473598
>Ganondorf's and Palutena's base movesets are terrible
Both of them would be so much improved if they could use their custom specials. Though as it stand I would say at least Ganny has good ariels and some of his As are good as well.
Charizard is my nigga.
>>268474112
I think Lucina has a rapid jab?