WARLORDS OF ORCNOR
Discuss.
Concerns regarding your class?
Is your race getting fucked with the model update?
>>262990160
New character models!
Gonna race change all my horde to trolls.
>>262990160
>Warrior
I haven't even seen how they are doing in the expansion. Feels like Warriors have been on a steady decline for quite a while, though.
>Male Troll
I can barely tell they were changed.
WHATD THEY DO TO MY WARLOCK?
>>262990498
atleast they faces dont look like they are made with paint.
A little concerned about all the spell slots i have now on my warrior, but whatever.
I can adapt to new changes fairly easily.
The new models look pretty great, humans not so much though. The log in music is fucking amazing.
>>262990160
>Still undecided which faction, race and class to play.
>After some testing, pick Worgen Warlock.
>"Hey, they are actually good"
>mfw news about WoDThis is what i get for being a merc.
>Undead steal life with hits
Oh baby.
>>262990669
i agree, WoD music is best since WotLK.
I'm not sure which class to level in WoD. I have 6 to choose from.
>yfw got 5 honorbuddy instances
>running in VMs
>all separate VPNs
>all reporting to me with pushover to my mobile phone
>tfw all of them have 9x lv90 on them right now
>tfw only priest and warrior left to level
>>262990769
>>262990631
>>262990498
>this is what you get for choosing alliance
>>262990843
I'm probably just going to stick with my horde warrior and alliance druid.
But i need to play all my classes to see what has changed, just reading about the changes isn't enough for me.
>>262990914
>tfw I don't understand anything in this post except the last two lines
>>262990631dem hands
>>262991139
He's a botter.
>>262990160
Well, I've tried arms out now on the ptr. Four buttons in my rotation sans 30 sec or more cds. Five if I talent right. Not sure what I'm gonna do, but it ain't gonna be this shit.
2nd time
WHAT DID THEY DO TO MY WARLOCK?
can someone post undead?
>>262990631
Why do night elves look old now?
>>262991264
What spec are you?
>>262991440
They are cougars.
>>262990160
I have decided that I cannot make it through college with an MMO in my life. I will be skipping Warlords of Draenor. I'll have to play it on a private server in a few years.
>>262991545
destro
>>262991440
Not Immortal anymore
>>262991385
>>262991596
>college
get out scrub
>Prot warrior and mage who's spec I don't care about for xpac
Am I fucked?
>>262991670
Who wants to play an elf that looks like shit though? Unless you're playing elder scrolls.
>>262991545
All the warlock specs suck in WoD.
>>262991440
Still looking pretty spry for 10k + years
>>262991806
Warriors are fine. Mages are the best casters but still kind of shit.
>>262991596
>i must devote my entire attention to something to get through it.
>2014
>Still no cure for aspergers
3RD TIME
WHAT DID THEY DO TO MY WARLOCK? (destro)
>>262992112
What does that have to do with aspergers you fucking idiot?
>tfw you literally can't play any class besides a rogue
>can't even manage to gear an instant 90 I boosted
The backstabbing life is hard
>>262991440
looks like her skeleton is trying to pop out of her or something.
>shitty models, cut content, and raped lore: the expansion: 4:the game
oh boy oh boy oh boy
>>262992153
EVERYTHING.
>Gul'dan getting btfo.
>Mannoroth losing to a bunch of orcs.
It was foretold.
>>262992210
>The backstabbing life is hard
In WoD there won't be a requirement to be behind someone to backstab them.
>Blizzard hates retadins with a passion
>My main is one
Fuck you too
>>262992330
i dont give a shit about lore, that's been fucked
tell me ABOUT THE CLASS
>>262992376
that's for ambush, stop spreading lies
And it's right in that sense. You're already in fucking stealth, why is there a need to go behind someone to ambush them
>>262991602
Right now you're gonna be clunky as fuck. They gave warlocks a pretty moderate kick in the balls and in general are taking casters down a peg. Come 100, you're the aoe king again thanks to the Charred Remains talent, which doubles your embers generation at the expense of incinerate and conflagrate. It also works with fire and brimstone, so aoe chaos bolts pretty much hit everything like a truck. Your moblity is pretty crippled however.
Just try and think of your self as a turret that's going to hate pvp for a long time
>still no invite to HotS
Fuck you Blizzard. You never invite me to anything.
>>262992416
Fuck off
>>262992416
In the previous thread:
>blood horror CD increased
>curse of exhaustion removed
>curse of elements removed
>felhunter spell lock doesn't silence anymore
>shit ton of spells got added to deminishing returns
>sear's magic CD increased
>succubus seduction got a CD
>felguard will no longer stun
>unbound will CD increased
>void walker/lord can't disarm anymore
>dark intent from 10% stamina to 5% multistrike LOL
>curse of enfeeblement removed
>demonic gateway nerfed to the ground (both in CD as range)
>healthstones have become useless
>the whole snapshotting thing that completely fucks up dots and therefore mostly warlocks
>soul burn nerfed
>no more ward
>moved a bunch of spells to a specific talent group when they were available in all specs before
>drain soul gives 1 shared instead of 4
>haunt incrases damage by 30% instead of 35%
>soul swap now costs souls
>fel flame removed
>Drain Life now heals for 30% less than before.
>Shadowburn no longer generates any mana.
>>262992538
Why would you want to play that?
>>262992521
so let me get this straight
they changed our aoe, but for some reason left us still on top of the charts
we go from one of the top classes in pvp to one of the worst
and fuck this game
>>262992416
Fuck off arab cunt
>>262990306
>Celestalon doesn't give a fuck about class flavour.
>Just look at blood DKs
That's the truth. Shadow priests have been shafted on this front since MoP too. I cannot stand Vampiric Embrace being a CD, I loved it being passive, siphoning little bits of health all the time, and knowing the better I did the more I siphoned. I loved having to spirit tap (which was iconic tbh) for mana too.
Hilariously, warlocks still have to life tap for mana, and soul link is basically vampiric embrace. I main a warlock these days, but it still makes me grit my teeth.
>>262990160
> More nerfs to DK's
> Even less survivability
Playing DK is suffering
>>262992865
So I can play it and then never play it again.
>implying Cataclysm through WoD isn't Metzen's fanfiction
>implying Aggra isn't Metzen's self insert
>>262991545
just read up on it.
WELP
Guess i'm playing my Enhancement shaman :^)
I miss Ghostcrawler already
>Celestalon thinks that rogue self healing was a problem when other dps classes can basically live forever
>Celestalon nerfs demo locks by 30% for no good reason
>Caring about half-assed, rushed content, no cities no tertiary stats orc circlejerk and Hyper-casualization for console editions soon: the expansion
>>262993079
I like how at Blizzcon they said Aggra wasn't coming with them, but she appears now because SJW complained. They also added a female warlord because of complaints, as well as writing an apology letting by mike to SJW on tumblr.
>>262993252
>nerfing demo locks
>no good reason
>>262992685
>blood horror CD increased
why
>curse of exhaustion removed
why
>curse of elements removed
WHY
>felhunter spell lock doesn't silence anymore
WHY
>shit ton of spells got added to deminishing returns
WHY
>sear's magic CD increased
who cares
>succubus seduction got a CD
WHY
>felguard will no longer stun
WHY
>unbound will CD increased
WHY
>void walker/lord can't disarm anymore
LITERALLY WHY
>dark intent from 10% stamina to 5% multistrike LOL
WHY
>curse of enfeeblement removed
why
>demonic gateway nerfed to the ground (both in CD as range)
WHY
>healthstones have become useless
FUCKING WHY?
>the whole snapshotting thing that completely fucks up dots and therefore mostly warlocks
WHY
>soul burn nerfed
who cares, lol affaggots
>no more ward
why
>moved a bunch of spells to a specific talent group when they were available in all specs before
WHY
>drain soul gives 1 shared instead of 4
who uses soul shards? not me
>haunt incrases damage by 30% instead of 35%
sucks, but affliction sucks
>soul swap now costs souls
gay
>fel flame removed
WHAT?
>Drain Life now heals for 30% less than before.
why
>Shadowburn no longer generates any mana.
WHY?
>>262991879
This, saw it for myself on the PTR.
Won't be returning.
>>262992882
Casters in general for pvp are in a pretty bad way right now. There's gonna need to be some major rebalances in the future, so if pvping with casters is a big deal for you(sans frost mage kek) might want to stay away for a while. Casters in general have a lot less freedom of movement right now. The only ones who are better off now are fire mages, who actually get a slight buff to mobility come 100
>Vanilla
>No focus on any particular race
>BC
>Massive focus on orcs, secondary focus on blood elves
>Wrath
>Massive focus on undead and humans
>Cataclym
>Massive focus on orcs
>Mists
>Massive focus on orcs and panderan
>Draenor
>Massive focus on orcs
Jesus.
>>262993350
They've been shit since BC
>>262993353
The biggest nerf is missing from that list: shadowbolt is being nerfed (benefits less from spell power)
Most of you warlockbros seem not to know. I don't blame you. They haven't been putting it out in patch notes, because they know there'll be white hot fury. I hope you're sitting down, because this one's going to sting.
>Dark Apotheosis is removed
>>262991806
Only thing prot warriors are going to lose is second win.
It's getting replaced with a same name garbage talent.
Prot warrior in general is looking fucking great
Mage now has nothing but good times coming their way. Frost nova got a cd increase I think, but they got rid of the horrible mana talent row and added some fun stuff.
>>262993958
FUCK
THIS
COMPANY
>>262993575
>cata is about orcs
>not old gods and elements nor dragons
>its orcs
If Inquisition was removed, what will they give us to make up for the lost damage bonus?
>blood horror CD increased
>curse of exhaustion removed
>curse of elements removed
>felhunter spell lock doesn't silence anymore
>shit ton of spells got added to deminishing returns
>sear's magic CD increased
>succubus seduction got a CD
>felguard will no longer stun
>unbound will CD increased
>void walker/lord can't disarm anymore
>dark intent from 10% stamina to 5% multistrike LOL
>curse of enfeeblement removed
>demonic gateway nerfed to the ground (both in CD as range)
>healthstones have become useless
>the whole snapshotting thing that completely fucks up dots and therefore mostly warlocks
>soul burn nerfed
>no more ward
>moved a bunch of spells to a specific talent group when they were available in all specs before
>drain soul gives 1 shared instead of 4
>haunt incrases damage by 30% instead of 35%
>soul swap now costs souls
>fel flame removed
>Drain Life now heals for 30% less than before.
>Shadowburn no longer generates any mana.
>shadowbolt is being nerfed (benefits less from spell power)
>Dark Apotheosis removed
Anything more to add?
>>262993958
>white hot fury
Did warlocks really use that glyph a lot? I got my warlock up to 90 and even finished the green fire questchain (at around 500 ilvl, too) and I never really saw much use for it.
Was there some subsection of the lock experience I completely forgot to check out? Might I still have time?
>All paladin specs are doing well in wod
>Especially ret
I don't know what it will be, but it will be painful for ret, it will make them last in dps for the tier, and utterly fuck them on pvp.
Or maybe ghostcrawler really hated paladins and we end fine.
>>262993575
Can all the orcs just please die off so we can get interesting stories?
Their lord of war things rip off other stories, their is no creativity there anymore. Grom = Conan, Kargath = Spartacus, I wonder what the next warlords are going to be.
>>262994480
Flag carrying in BGs, tanking older raids, generally having fun with a fun ability. It didn't really affect much, which is why it's so insulting that they removed it. No fun allowed.
>>262994480
no, they didn't.
the correct thing to do from a game design perspective was to add more shit you could do with the glyph, not remove it.
>>262994480
idk i used it for emergencies if had to hold aggro from a bit...but it is really useless.
not good enough to tank anything of importance.
not enough DPS to be worth a damn.
>>262993958
Well how else are they gonna add the Demon hunter class in a future xpac?
>>262994552
I hate how bipolar paladins seem to be, they're either really good or complete trash and it has always deterred me from playing one.
>>262994839
why not just build it as a whole spec at that point.
>>262994552
She gets a hug after that right?
>>262994705
If the expansion were in W1 EK instead it would be several times better.
We could have all the grom cocksucking metzen loves, but with THE LION OF AZEROTH and kara 2.0, now more alive.
>>262994251
You didn't mention anything about Kil'Jaden's Cunning nerf, though that might be well known enough that it doesn't need mentioning
Also, afflic's execute mechanic is gone until you get to 100
>>262995007
because that would mean they have less time to spend reskinning mounts to sell in the store.
>>262994968
To be fair, only ret gets on mr bones' wild ride.
Holy and prot are god tier almost always.
>>262994705
I like how ogres are romans and not retarded prior to the orcs rising to power, then the ogres are dumb as fuck.
>>262995134
specifically didn't mention those because they're tuning down the whole casting while moving thing for all classes. except hunters of course
>>262995179
Not true, prot has its share of being dogshit.
>>262990160
How is the Unho-dk? In MoP dk got shit all over it.
>>262995173
most of the store mounts have unique animations and/or skeletons.
>>262994552
Prot and Ret are pretty much the same, losing like, 1 or two cds I think but otherwise just fine. The biggest change is gonna be the way stats are getting changed up
somehow rogues and shamans still have 3 action bars worth of abilities after pruning
>>262994705
How about the current horde gets rolled into the iron horde that's left after the xpac. Horde gets Draenor, and Ally get azeroth, and we can ignore them both when we go to super demon planet X when the Burning Legion xpac comes out in two years
>>262995323
Since wrath, only on DS , and maybe SoO, haven't played seriously since firelands.
>>262995337
Damn that's hard core
>>262993575
>vanilla
humans more than anything else
>BC
Massive focus on BEs and a bit on draenei, only orcs were fel orcs as enemies
>wrath
undead and humans sure
>cata
when were orcs focused on? i dont think it was anything in particular
>mists
pandaren, and garrosh being a dick but i guess he must be all orcs huh?
>draenor
orcs and dreanei. strange its almost like we are going to a planet inhabited by them
How do marks hunter play like in WoD?
>>262991596
>undergrad
>needing to focus all your attention
>implying you won't be wasting your free time with something else instead
>>262995693
>playing hunter
shiggy.
Here are all the Female Alliance faces in webm form, bit more life to them than still images.
I also put a slightly higher bitrate mp4 version here on pomf for a bit better quality:
http://a.pomf.se/gygruw.mp4
>>262995648
i know.
why is it not about worgan and blood elves! they get ignored!
>>262991674
>myreactiontoWoD.png
>>262994839
It would go against Draenor's design philosophy, I suppose.
They're attempting to cut back on abilities by pruning the unnecessary in order to try and start fresh. Probably so they can reintroduce said abilities when things are given more breathing room.
>>262995693
>Marks
You have to stand still like every other range.
>>262995648
Vanilla Bosses
>Dragon with alliance lore
>Elemental with dwarf lore
>Dragon with alliance and old horde lore
>Troll
>Bugs with night elf lore
>Undead with heavy alliance lore with a bit of orc lore and just a touch of high elf
>>262995648
>orcs and dreanei
What the fuck is a Draenei? You mean those ugly blue things that Orcs kill for sport and aren't mentioned at all in the WoD cinematic/trailers?
Troll Enhancement Shaman here, other than the racial i don't feel Enhancement shammys are getting screwed over this expansion other than being melee. Still thinking about what tank class i want to play though for this expansion, got all of them except druid at 90
>>262995648
>Massive focus on BEs and a bit on draenei, only orcs were fel orcs as enemies
>orcs all over Hellfire
>orcs all over nagrand
>orcs all over terrokka forest
Way more orcs in BC than either draenei or blood elves.
>cata
Most about orcs, Garrosh's war as well as Thrall
>Mop
Mostly about Garrosh with the conflict, the pandas were there too
>draenor
Mostly about orcs with draenei only being relevant in SMV and Talador (Talador which is mostly destroyed by orcs, SMV which focus a lot on the shadowmoon orc clan).
>>262995693
You have a new mastery.
It says if you stand still for 3 seconds, you get a buff for 10 seconds that buffs your damage and range by whatever % your mastery is.
You can run around and the buff will stay but it will run out after 10 seconds if you don't stand still again for 3 seconds
>>262994839
Honestly, when the first alpha push went out and I saw the glyph was removed, I was damn sure we'd be seeing it turned into a full tanking spec, like people had assumed when it first appeared in the MoP beta.
And yet, that didn't happen and the utility was entirely lost. I was pretty disappointed, it was a fun concept.
>>262995648
>orcs and dreanei. strange its almost like we are going to a planet inhabited by them
>orcs and draenei
>draenei
HAHAHAHAHAHA, don't play the game if you think the draenei are getting much focus at all outside of the first questing zone.
Sorry WoD is an orc circle jerk.
>Ferals get crit for secondary stat attunement
>Tauren get crit damage bonus passive
It's a good day to be afemtaurferal.
Is worth trying to get CM gold nowadays?
I don't really like the armor as much to justify paying 100k to some fags.
>The new elemental mastery
Thanks Blizzard, I've always wanted my lightning bolts to be accompanied by stone shards.
Friendly reminder to try the PTR out while it's open if you are on the fence/are unsubbed before you finalize your decision and for the living to get the fuck out of Lordaeron
>>262995934
>same faces
>different eyebrow position and different eye color
But wow those night elf and draenei faces look like shit.
Do this for horde faces though.
>>262996530
>TFW only payed 60k
>>262995693
From what I've tried out (just fucking around with it), it's not so bad. Sniper Training is back, which means you have to coordinate how long you stand still before moving about. It influences so much of your damage that I'm assuming MM is going to be the full-on STAND STILL spec.
As far as DPS goes, though, I have no idea. Considering they seemed to focus on the specs a bit more this time, MM may not be completely horrible this time around. One can only hope.
>>262996530
If you like the armor go for it.
On a side note seems like professions are completely gutted in WoD and you won't be able to make any money with them. If that is how you made your money before.
Cata lore breakdown
>Start of the xpac
Horde: Heavy orc lore, with some undead exposition in the new leveling zones. Also goblins and tauren here and there
Alliance: Somewhat human centric(as always) but also something for the night elves to do now with the world tree. Dwarves got new political stuff and a new clan.
>4.1
Trolls
>4.2
Thrall, night elves, and a bit of tauren
>4.3
Thrall, dragons, crazy alliance bishop dude that was a blip on the radar. Also a shit ton of wasted potential for night elves from the well of eternity
>>262996768
The paladin CM set is kinda shitty and mainly used by scrubs, but if getting 9/9 gold is easy without paying I will do it.
Is not like I have something better to tho until 6.0
>>262996818
>crazy alliance bishop dude that was a blip on the radar.
Also remember that Thrall was the one to uncover that the bishop was corrupt. It was originally suppose to be Varian.
>>262996818
>alliance bishop dude
im happy i dont ever need to run that place again and see my chat window flooded with "PAAAAAHH"
>friend keeps complaining about ele shaman in wod
>new shit mastery
meanwhile I'm laughing here gearing my newly boosted ench shaman
>>262996768
Enchanter/JC here. Had gorillions of gold.
Fuck Blizzard.
>>262996557
>Do this for horde faces though.
God damn it anon, I'm really slow with this shit. Took me since last thread to make that.
You want the Horde females?
>tfw you're a huge alliance fanboy who hates orcs with a passion
>still want to play a female orc because they have god tier proportions, animations, and hnng muscle girls
>>262996768
Since gold seems to interst you anon, tell me, how do you think the economy is going to work in WoD?
Garrisons and their resource generation seem like they're absolutely going to trash every raw material market.
Also, I keep hearing that you'll be able to get to 600 prof skill in draenor with an easy to get item, any details on that?
>>262996696
i fucking hate sniper training, but it does give you 4 seconds to stand still again before it wears off, really dont know how this will play out in raids when theres constantly tons of shit to now stand in and shit to run from
>>262996768
Considering how the gold sinks are everywhere in WoD, I'm curious about how the economy will work out.
The fact that most gear you'd get pre-raid is going to be bought from gold makes me wonder how much of the gold we've ended up stockpiling on is going to go away.
>>262996696
I like it. Reminds me a bit back when you had to be standing still for a gun to fire but you could move around during the reload time.
>>262997060
JC is going to be the most useless since they are removing a lot of sockets from gear. Also you can only wear 3 crafted pieces of any kind at a time, they have unique equip 3 on them.
Additionally professions are integrated into the garrisons, so you will need to basically need to actually make buildings to complement your profession. So like if you are a tailor you will need flowers from the herb garden and enchanting dust etc. Not just cloth.
>>262997201
Well atleast this will make gold useful instead of just hoarding it/AH it
with 6.0 on the PTR are the graphic updatesthere as well or do you need to buy WoD?
>>262993575
>>262995648
I've never understood why people say Blood Elves got so much in BC, maybe because I don't see being fodder as meaningful development
Both faction's starting zones involved cleaning up the area and some smaller side stories
Both were dropped until outland
Once in outland the blood elves have a little bit of the pilgrimage stuff before getting to Shatt at which point they join the Scryers and everything after has an aldor mirror.
Everything aside from said fodder in netherstorm who are generically evil crackheads you kill for purps
The REAL problem is Draenei were essentially created for BC while the blood/high elves had existed for years prior
>>262997076
Yeah, already have seen all the males. Thanks though.
>>262997349
The problem with that design is that it drives Blizzard to price shit around gold hoarders and not the average player. Creating a serious fucking issue with overpricing, especially considering gold prices have completely replaced valour, justice and other shit.
>>262996768
>Sets worth getting
>Paladin
>Warlock
>Mage
>DK
>Warrior(for some races)
>Rogue(very few races)
>Druid(resto only)
>>262997360
What's Blizzard's policy been regarding anything that affects earlier content when it comes to expansion patches since 2.0?
>>262997163
If nothing else, you'd probably be in the same boat as the rest of the casters, (partially at least) and it won't be moving as much.
I loved Sniper Training back in the day, though.
>>262996152
i think enha is getting stronger.
fuck yeah
>>262995934
>those lips
Holy shit have they ever seen lips before?
>>262993331
>added a female warlord
kek, i bet we won't be able to kill her either
>>262997520
Whats going to be the prize for stuff then? I saw some BoA stuff going for average 600g piece. But maybe its easy to get gold through quests and it might pile up without you knowing it.
>>262997723
Im so glad they are using the Tier bonus with Lava Lash resets on Flame shock ticks, 2gud
>>262997038
>>262997047
>Goes from being a city boss to a stepping stone for epics in the worst patch in WoW history
>>262997482
Coming right up, stick around in this thread.
What class is going to be OP?
>>262996152
I'm having a dickens of a time deciding as well. Considering blood, it'll be nice to have the relative bigger HP pools but the downtime on the spec is worrying me
>>262997928
They haven't even added a replacement for him for the alliance church. Blizzard really doesn't care about the story.
THERE IS ONLY POWA!
>>262997520
I doubt they'll balance it as badly as that, though.
I mean, I know a LOT of hoarders in WoW, but they're in the minority at most. And I know one of them will probably end up making like 3-4 garrisons with tier 3 in everything before the second raid tier comes out. That's a lot of coin going down, but he'd be all for it.
The way I'll see it is that gold will be much easier to acquire in WoD, but it'll be offset by the massive amount of shit you can buy. So the rich will be able to be lavish with their garrisons while the poor will be considering the best investment.
Garrisons will be fun to see work out just because of that. I really, really hope there's no end-all best combination for it.
>>262997871
i fucking love enha, been great in pvp. Though from what i understand you cant instant hex anymore.
>>262997093
>femorc
Awwwww yiss. I'm rolling a Female Orc Warrior in WoD because I think they did a really good job redoing the model. They're musclechicks done right.
>>262996557
>same faces
You're blind m8. A few builds ago they had the same face. Both the geometry and textures change now.
>>262998075
Im leaning towards Prot Warrior again mostly because the shield DPS talent seems cool. But i liked 5.4 Prot paladin playstyle too and Monk was just like playing DPS but i felt they were squishy.
>>262998427
Nah no more instant hex
>>262998075
>dickens of a time
go to bed, grandpa
>>262991180
>they made them bigger
what the FUCK
>>262998618
no instant hex sucks dick though.
the fuck am i supposed to do apart from windshear if i want to pvp
>>262991670
damn thats a good fucking point
>>262998618
>tfw you will never suck garroshs dick and have him spread your ass cheeks and penetrate your anus
why even live
>>262998581
The eye shape on all of them are the same. They took the same face, not an exaggeration, and altered it slightly to resemble a different expression. It's very noticeable on the models without eye color like the night elves and draenei. The lip angles change and the eyebrows change but that's about it, nose is altered slightly on a few faces, but overall they are the same face with different expressions.
>>262995648
You're kidding if you think Draenei got any love in BC and thinking they'll get any in WoD
BC was almost entirely blood elves. WoD will be 100% orcs.
>>262991670
Will blood elves look like old ladies as well then? They aren't immortal.
>>262996152
Monk is your best bet.
unless you are lazy and/or they ruin it in WoD i have not tried.
it is fasted paced and little to no down time.
What do you guys think of the whole 3 Weeks until first raid opens after release? The mega casual guild im in thought it was good since they get time gearing up
>>262998859
No idea with WoD PvP, blast them with Ascension?
>>262998874tfw you'll never be inbetween thrall and vol'jin as they rub their hardened bulges over your face
Since they're removing dot snapshotting, does that mean SP's wont be able to get an extra Devouring plague off?
Am I the only one on /v/ that has actually enjoyed the beta? I really like the whole Garrison deal, too bad the first Shadowmoon invasion is broken and I get attacked by level 100 spooky skeletons.
>>262998859
you git gud.
and by git gud i mean learn to bait their interrupt.
>>262998698
Go back to standing in the fire whipersnapper
>>262998618
I never played monk as a tank this xpac for raiding with my guild so I might give them a try. That warrior glad stance talent seems enticing for an offspec though, especially with crit being mainline on tank gear now
>>262999229
its fine. keeps people out in the world and like they said time to gear. more world pvp for me.
>>262999232
Yeah.
You'll be able to get five orbs though
>>262999229
It's fine.
They've done it before, and it was fine then too.
>>262999171
I played Monk tank for Throne of Thunder and almost all of SoO, but i always felt very squishy no matter what. Playstyle was real good though and i felt i did loads of damage.
>>262999430
From what i've heard though, the Gladiator stance hasn't been pulling any high numbers though
>>262992210
>Mfw I cannot play anything that cant tank
>Mfw I like healing but, watching other people tank is fucking painful.
>>262999793
Glad Stance is just the only Warrior DPS spec that doesn't feel gutted. It feels like Fury and Arms as they are on live. It has the right amount of buttons and procs and mechanics to feel whole, instead of torn apart like Arms and Fury.
>tfw femdorfs models are amazing
>>262996557
>>262997482
Alright here you go, the female Orc refuses to sit still for more than 3 seconds so she goes off center.
Keep in mind Blood Elves aren't getting new models yet.
Same old higher quality version here:
http://a.pomf.se/oaxjev.mp4
>>262993353
>demonic gateway nerfed to the ground (both in CD as range)
>WHY
>SERIOUSLY ASKING WHY
I hope you burn to death.
>>262999793
Really? Damn. Last number check I saw put it at slightly above fury. Must have been from an older build.
From what I hear though, glad stance is currently the warrior spec that plays closest to what warriors play like on live right now(plenty of buttons to push, dynamic rotation, ect) and it just lacks in raid cds
Keeping my fingers crossed on that one
>>262993353
>Why the FUCK am I not objectively the greatest thing ever in a raid, where are my free raid slots? Where the fuck is my imbalanced plethora of utility?
Fuck Warlocks, I hope they completely remove your class next time.
>>262999368
>anyone above 2.4k who gets caught in a 2 sec cast
>>262999793
The limited experience I had with monks in flex seemed to be the same. Not sure where the squishyness comes from, my stagger was at about 45% if I remember right. You would figure that should be a pretty beefy defense to get through. Though apparently they can solo tank H-Malkorok Enrage phase so I can't help but wonder if I'm just doing it wrong.
Any idea how bears play now?
>>263000273
>Why can't I do twice the DPS of the second highest performing class :(
>>263000109
Warlock main here, I wish they'd disable it in arenas too, it's a pain in the ass to have to set up every game.
>>263000406
>Though apparently they can solo tank H-Malkorok Enrage phase
Stack mastery and have really really fucking good healers. Monk tanks take a shit ton of damage but are really hard to one shot.
>>263000273
It must have been pretty damn great being a warlock this xpac. Pulling 420k in 563 gear is neat, but the karma train is coming home to roost
HOW ARE MONKS LOOKING IN WOD? MAINLY BREWMASTERS
>>263000406
you must keep shuffle and dizzy brew up.
use cleansing brew often.
dont forget to pickup GotO(little orbs around you)
use the bubble on CD. make sure it is empowered.
>tfw re subbed to wow
>tfw deleted my lvl 90 warrior before i quit so I have to power level a new one before WoD
If I don't make it atleast I have my Shaman I don't like
>>263000680
>Warlock in blades edge
Fucking hell there is nothing more annoying.
>>263000059
>>263000174
That could have been from a older build or the other DPSers were just higher, either way im still curious.
>>263000786
They are in the same spot they are now.
>>263000878
>you must keep shuffle and dizzy brew up.
Should I be purifying at yellow stagger, or only when it gets to red? Also, what's a good haste %?
>>263000931
you get a free 90 when you buy WoD.
you are not fooling anyone shit poster.
>>262990160
I just came in here to say
>Not using Warlords of Draenorc
>>263000931
you do know that you can just ask you characters back?
>>263000931
Get it to 60 and pick up a profession or two, then use the boost for it. Boom, Lv 90 with full professions and ready for Draenor.
>>263001259
The 90 boast induces professions?
I'm really likeing the way the beard ornaments look on my dorf
>>263001410
only if you're 60+.
>>263001458
Do the professions need to be a certain level?
>>263001259
This nigga knows what's up.
The time it takes to do 1-60 in a post-Cataclysm world is nothing compared to the costs of leveling 2 of the better professions, especially Engineering/Blacksmithing.
Get to 60, pick 2 you want and use the boost. Bingo, free 600 each
WotLK/Cata/MoP are so slow that even waiting until 60 to boost still saves you like 80% of your leveling time.
>>263001081
i use it when the bar gets like 25%
as fore haste 3-4k about depending on how you like to play.
>>262999229
>No idea with WoD PvP, blast them with Ascension?
They nerfed Ascendance to the ground as well, it's not really a damage cooldown anymore, you just use it when someone is kiting you hard and you can't get into melee range.
Most Enhance damage comes from passive sources now.
>>263000405
You can pretty much stop again with PvP if you play Enhace.
Now that all of our control is gone and they nerfed the Ascendance burst we're back to shit tier.
lvl90 and 100 talents in WoD PvP:
>Enhanced Unleash: 30% more damage for next lb and 5% increased multistrike for I think 5sec
Obvious choice
>Primal Elementalist: Fire elemental totem has 30k hp, that's 2 hits by a melee
>Elemental Blast: RIP in piece, hits for less than LB
lvl100
>whatsitsname: 75% more shock damage after lavalash, 2 stacks so 150% possible
obvious choice, combined with the new echo of the elements, you can do a nice combo of LL->LL->frost shock150%
Too bad they nerfed frost shock to the ground with the latest build, so gg no re
>Storm Elemental totem: look guys it's a 30k hp totem, let's kill it in 2 hits
>molten thing: SHIT, the globes have travel time and you can just run away from the spot where they'll land, also totally random targeting, ALSO your fire totem still has 5hp so one hit...
They also keep nerfing our damage on the PTR because of PvE.
>>263001568
No but you have to learn the professions before using the boost.
>>263001439
>Dwarves even shorter now
I wonder what you're cooking up Metzen Oops I mean Garrosh
>>263001568
No, just learned
>>263001229
>Not Orclorcs of Orcnorc
>>263001632
Ah, but anon, you do not know
In WoD, garrisons will drop items that let you level to 600 for nothing
>>263001756
>MFW Metzen wishes that orcs were real and he was one
>>263001757
Fuck can i just boost a already 90 character to 90 fuck leveling professions
>>262999232
I miss dropping Shadow Fiend for mana instead of dmg
>>263001890
What are you talking about? Garrisons give you profession huts that let you craft the basic garbage from the professions you don't have. You can't craft any of the shit that's actually worth it and it takes fucking forever to get the profession huts to max level to even get that feature anyway.
>>262990597
Slowly gutting it as a continuation of Ghostcrawler's master plan to eventually remove them from the game to make way for the mage master race
>>263001693
motherfucks.
g-guess im going back to resto for pvp.
I had better rating anyway ;__;
Are tanks finally going to be viable for PvP?
All I want is for blood to be as viable as any other top 15 spec
>Nerfing Warlocks into the dirt
T-Thanks B-Blizz C-Can't wait to roll Mage!
Is starting as a Level 1 in WoW still enjoyable to any degree?
I kind of want to get back into playing, but don't really want to pay my way to 90 - but I'm hearing that's kind of the way to go to have any amount of fun.
>>263001918
Don't we all wish that?
>>263001918
Sometimes I wonder if he really does wish he was an Orc. Not just "I love my works" but downright mental problem tier fantasy.
>>262990160
I heard the barbers can now alter faces, which is a fucking godsend in my case. Really hope that's true
>>263002178
>warlocks tears
stop bitching anon they are going to buff you for the next patch.
>>263002204
I think leveling is tons of fun. It's just the stress of having to level quick before WoD.
I think it's very personal preference
>>263002039
I just looked it up, and it appears I was in the wrong.
You can only use WoD materials to level proffesions from 1-700
I was mistaken on that, apologies
>>263002259
I wish trolls were real and I could just chill with one.
>>263002095
We still have cap totem though.
>mfw a TSG on 2600 (including the healer) stands in my 5sec cap totem and gets stunned
>>263002279
https://twitter.com/Rygarius/status/509841717697466368
>>263002309
They said they were gonna buff one spec, that still leaves two as garbage, and Demo being a mystery spec in terms of usefulness until we see the buff
>>263002259
They could be. Theres always that chance (According to multiverse theory) that orcs in another universe/reality where they do have magic open up an actual dark portal and some how out of the billions of universes. Stumble upon ours and then there they come pouring into our universe. then we'd have access to theirs and so on.
>>263002390
yeah, it's better than nothing.
Gotta see what spec i will run in WoD. Or perhaps just play babbymode hunter
>>263002417
The opportunity to tweak my proud black mage to look less like a russian hitman with the update is all I ask for
faggots better not charge for it.
Edge Knight main here.
Copied my character over to the PTR and did a quick flip through my spellbook, good lord talk about a feeling of emptiness but most of the stuff is just passives rolled into other abilities so, eh.
Went to the blasted lands to try out the class against some of the iron horde mobs, unholy pretty much plays the same and the damage output is fairly decent, I guess. Timmy does horrible damage even when transformed and is in dire need of tuning, though.
Frost is just FUBAR. It doesn't look like it is on the surface as everything looks like it functions the same but frost is now expected to sit on runes/runic power(depending on DW/2h) until KM lights up. So they are basically autoattacking and waiting on KM procs most of the time as spending one incorrectly absolutely ruins your damage. I know frost DKs were far too faceroll for a while but just slowing them down to the speed of smell doesn't seem right and just sounds like lazy design.
I haven't tried blood yet but I'm not expecting to be impressed after the forum posts I have read about it. I guess I will be maining unholy throughout WoD.
As for model updates? My characters are looking rather great although my paladin looks like he's remembering something horrible he did in highschool. My DK(male draenei) is looking pretty nice aside from the sausage fingers.
>>263002204
it is fun if you make your own adventure, playing without heirlooms, reading quest texts and finishing every zone. i find it comfy
>>263002178
>I'm no longer the best class in the game, time to reroll!
Why are warlock players so whiny?
>>263002271
Look at him>>263001756
and look at Garrosh>>263001918
Hes outright pathetic
>Having one of the villains modeled after himself
>Voices all the orcs for the most part
>>263002381
I'd bet a troll would be a perfect chill out guy to play vidya with. But then again i think most other races would fit that as well
>>263002204
Yes its still enjoyable, don't rush anything and make sure you take in of the world as you level. You don't have to be thinking about end game since WoD is coming up
>Haven't played since WotLK
>missed all the cool collectables
>Have to catch up
>Won't be able to raid because I have to level, etc. (only had a couple of 80's and want to level new characters)
>Don't even know the current status of the game and missed all the happenings/lore
Is the game worth getting back into, and how do I calm my autism regarding all the missed content/lore/collectibles?
>>263002486
if the multiverse theory is true. then there are an infinite number of universes where you are an orc.
correlary: there are also an infinite number of universes where you are a tranny faggot with aids
>>263002370
>You can only use WoD materials to level proffesions from 1-700
This is a very stupid thing to do for crafting profs unless you're crazy rich, they added this same system for Blacksmithing in MoP and it was 3x more expensive on both my servers (Proudmoore and Kil'Jaeden) to level through those Ghost Iron shortcuts than to do it normally.
You need 4971 Ghost Irons bars to level 1-600, nearly 250 stacks.
>>263002204
2 months till WoD hits. its PLENTY of time to level, even if taking it slow
>>263002743
>there are also an infinite number of universes where you are a tranny faggot
unf
>>263002730
Play with friends. That's what got me bac k
>a wow thread on /v/ with little to none shitposting
I didn't even know wow threads could be anything but nostalgia circlejerks and "THIS GAME ISN'T WHAT I REMEMBERED WHEN I WAS 13"
>>263002259
>out of all of the sets to draw a troll rogue in, he puts them in the ugly ass t10 geist armor
Why?
>>263000094
The orc and troll look the most polished, are they still doing a lot of work on like the alliance faces as well as undead?
>>263002663
It's just a built in part of the class, there is no avoiding it.
>>263002853
None of my friends play.
>>262992685
>>262993353
>>262994251
>mfw I preordered before I read all the changes
I now regret my decision
I...I think it might be best to just pretend I didn't order it and let my subscription expire, that would be best...right?
>>263002365
I love leveling. I love it enough that I'm going to make a large process of it for Wrath.
Just wish they'd give better alternatives to leveling for those who really don't like it. All they really need to do is make a "Boost character by one level" item, or create a quest that gives like 5 levels worth of experience.
They also gave out an idea like make it so that Outland and Northrend is a 20-level area instead of a 10-level and you pick which one you want to go through.
>>263002864
it all comes down to the first few posts
Warrior or death knight for WoD?
>>263002417
The fact that a new barber shop features needs a details write up to explain it really screams "1 time use" or limited time or something to me.
Too bad, I would love to be able to swap my characters looks any time I want.
>>263000094
thanks, they look okay except undead and tauren look pretty cartoony
