I had a name
My father called me Blues
THEY LOST ME
FORGOT ME
MADE YOU FROM PARTS OF ME
IF YOU'RE THE ONE
MY FATHER'S SON
THEN WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO BEEEEEE?
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO BEEEEE?
>>261863924
RIPPED MY HEART FROM MY CHEST TO GIVE TO YOUUUU
>>261863924
Was this guy only a bad guy in the us cartoon? Did he have free will and left Dr. Light? If he's so powerful, why did he leave saving the world to mega man?
>>261865718
He evil in megaman 3 then becomes a recurrent character that helps megaman throughout the classic series
>>261865718
Proto man didn't go save the world because his core was damaged or some stupid shit. Also light apparently disowned him
>>261865907
Built by wily, like zero? Or Dr. Light?
>>261866593
Dr. Light, repaired by Wily
>>261866593
Proto man was a prototype (get it) for mega man that light had abandoned for being defective
The archie comic can be hit or miss, but the Protoman moments are god tier right in the feels bro moments.
>>261865718
If I remember right, in the US cartoon he was pretty much completely built by WIly so he was evil. But in the games he's more of an anti-hero. Or just a hero that doesn't want to be in the spotlight.
His core was fucked up because he was a prototype, and because of that it gave him freewill. When Light tried to replace it, Proto thought it would take away his free will so he ran away. Eventually it fucked his body up really bad and Wily repaired him. So that's why he worked for Wily as Breakman for a couple of games.
>>261866917
Seriously, why the fuck is Dr. Light such a fucking retard. He's like a supervillain that thinks he's a hero.
I HAD A NAME
HE
CALLED ME BLUES
THIS THREAD ISN'T VIDEO GAMES
ITS AGAINST
THE
RULES
So there's a shitty Protoman band, and a mediocre Mega Man band.
Now we need a good Bass band.
>>261866715
Proto was built by both of them, same as Rock, Roll, and the other first 6 Robot Masters.
>>261867156
Dude we're fucking discussing mega man, or The Megas, a music band about video games (secondary)
>>261867156
But we're discussing the games too.
>>261867165
>mediocre
Did you even listen to HR:R? Better than the complete absence of Protomen for 5 years
>>261867165
>Bass
>anything good
>>261867165
I wouldn't mind that. But really Bass was underutilized to begin with. He never went anywhere beyond "Bad Mega Man who occasionally tells Wily to eat shit"
He was basically just Break Man, but for future games so Protoman could be a hero.
![Basskicksonic[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/idhpJCA.jpg "Basskicksonic[1].jpg")
>>261867593
Anybody who kicks Sonic in the stomach is okay in my book.
holy shit the protomen are going to do ANOTHER unrelated cover album AGAIN instead of act 3, this shit is hilarious
>>261867795
Just how cringeworthy was that crossover, anyway? I didn't read any of the comics even though I think I have some when I ordered the Mega Buster USB stick from Capcom last year.
>>261867991
>The Megas mentioned in the past they want to do a Mega Man X album
>Protomen don't really give a shit about doing Act 3
>>261868049
It was actually really good. They kept everyone in check, the plot was 'okay' as far as crossovers go, and Bass and Mega Man pretty much stole the show.
>>261868049
it was actually really awesome. Wily and Eggman had a great chemistry with each other, surprisingly.
When does Capcom announce that thing? TGS?
>>261868405
>>261868478
Maybe I should give it a try then. I don't know why I haven't, consider Mega Man and Sonic were two of my favorite series when I was a kid.
>>261868679
Very good for a comic is not good, anon
>>261868679
Ignore >>261869086
He's just some salty twat from /co/
>>261867119
He didn't want proto to suffer
>>261867119
Well he also accidentally caused the maverick wars
>>261869358
>killed humanity like twice
>thousands of years after he's dead his fuckups are still affecting Earth
>>261869579
Oh well yeah that shit is his fault
>>261869564
>Light accidentally causes massive wars and catastrophes after his death
>Wily accidentally saves the world through Zero
Mega Man has some fucked up karma when you think about it.
>>261870149
The road to hell is paved with good intentions: the game
>>261870028
No it isn't. Don't believe old, stupid copypasta.
>>261870448
the best part of the games is that megaman painstakingly saves the world 10 times only for a timeskip to ruin the world anyway, then it happens again to X
What color pallet swaps do you guys hope Mega gets in Smash 4?
Im really hoping for a quick man color pallet and a Protoman alt skin
>>261870679
But it's true, without Light's hardware we'd have Battle Network, which is pretty much an Utopia.
>>261870892
No it isn't. Light had nothing to do with Cain's fuck ups.
>>261870885
>filename
But that's wrong
Metal Blade colors
Power Adaptor colors
>>261870892
>Your oven gets hacked
>The entire city blows up in an inferno
I think there's a bit of flimsy logic here.
>>261871283
>he created X, who Cain found
>it was the inspiration for the reploids
do you even lore
>>261870735
Sometimes I want to see just how things went to shit so badly, and what happened to Mega Man and all the others.
But then I think about it and decide it's best to just not ever see it.
>>261871283
Except that if he didn't build robots then Cain wouldn't have made the Maverick fucks who eventually killed at least 3/4ths of the human population and lead to Copy X fucking shit up even further.
>>261871627
Cain was an archeologist, not a robotist or a programmer. Guy had no fucking idea what he was doing.
It'd be like a pretty smart carpenter deciding to try to make paintings based on the works of Michelangelo.
>>261871991
so you're saying he was a retard that only managed to doom humanity because he found a robot made by Light
which is my entire point
>>261871930
>if he hadn't have made X then someone else wouldn't have tried to copy it and failed horribly!
How is that Light's fault again? If anything, his work through X is what saved the world countless times again.
>>261872143
If he didn't continue research on X then Reploids wouldn't have gone out of control with their shitty free will.
>>261867991
WHAT THE FUCK
ARE YOU KIDDING ME
YOU'D BETTER BE PULLING MY FUCKING CHAIN
>>261872386
Light and Cain are two completely different people.
>>261872386
Reploids were inherently flawed copies of X, yeah, but you can still lay the blame at Wily's feet for all that shit because the Zero virus that he created was the start of the Mavericks.
Hell, he even made Sigma another body in one of the middle Xs but that was never touched on again.
>>261872595
Light was the one who invented the free-will bullshit chip, anon. All for X.
>>261872417
I'M NOT EVEN KIDDING
http://www.reddit.com/r/Protomen/comments/2etfxu/question_about_the_upcoming_cover_album/
YEAH I KNOW REDDIT
>mfw we'll get three megas albums before act 3
>mfwfine with this
>>261872775
Yeah, and X never had a problem. You can't blame him for the Reploids. They're just shitty copies that Cain built with only an incomplete understanding of X's systems.
>>261872775
I thought Rock and Blues both had free will, anon?
Reminder to all, that Shadowman is the best robot of all. ALL TIME!
>>261871991
That's a shitty comparison. Michelangelo was a sculptor by passion and practice. He considered painting a bastard's form of artistry. He only took it up to prove he was a better at it than Da Vinci, who was getting more reknown than him.
>>261872775
And it worked perfectly. He did nothing wrong.
>>261872835
OH MY FUCKING GOD
I AM SO GODDAMN ANGRY RIGHT NOW
FUUUUUUUCK
>>261863924
Fuck me HR:R was so good. WorthTheWait.jpg
HOPE RIDES ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNEE
>>261873038
Haha, u funny man.
>>261872386
>>261872678
>>261872775
How exactly is this in any way different? Mechanaloids and Robot Masters are susceptible to the Maverick Virus and its precursors.
Tell me right now how anything would have turned out better if the Maverick Virus had an outbreak and there were simply more prevelant than in MM10, and no one had already figured out a cure?
>>261873002
Exactly. And if X never got the chip then Cain probably wouldn't have come as close to making those shitty flawed copies.
>>261873010
Original Mega Man and Protoman had 'free will' to the degree that they had to follow whatever their programming told them to do and anything that didn't step over those bounds.
X has entire free will. Meaning he can tell any human to fuck off if he wanted.
>>261873062
For Light, yeah. But if he hadn't had researched and developed the chip then none of that shit would have gone down.
>>261873010
Blues does, yeah. But it's never clarified that Rock does.
>>261873185
Yeah, The Megas have some serious talent.
>The Megas on vocals and instruments
>The Protomen on lyrics and mastering
>it'll never happen
>>261873010
No they don't.
Source; DOCTOR FUCKING LIGHT
They have wills, they make their own choices. But only within the confines of their program. Even if that is suitably humanlike; it's not free will.
>>261873058
Then Da Vinci is the one I meant. It's late and I'm not good with my mutant turtles/renaissance artists
>>261873648
I could swear Blues was the beta version of Rock, and Blues had a free will chip (broken but apparently Light was going to fix it), so why wouldn't Rock have one?
>>261873508
I must say, you have good taste posting my favorite MM8 robot master. In the end, he can't compare to that, which is Shadowman.
>>261873845That means we don't have free will since we have metal censors against suicide and instincts and shit
>>261873010
They can make decisions on their own, but their moral compasses are pre-programmed. Rock will always choose to be the hero, how he saves the day is up to him, but he has no choice but to decide to save it.
>>261873908
>free will chip
No. His reactor was defective. Protoman THOUGHT Light was going to reprogram him and decided to run away.
>>261873579
>But if he hadn't had researched and developed the chip then none of that shit would have gone down.
Not how responsibility works.
>>261873579
>>Exactly. And if X never got the chip then Cain probably wouldn't have come as close to making those shitty flawed copies.
That's on Cain because he fucked up on reverse-engineering X. The fault wouldn't lie with Light.
>>261873038
But Heatman is best robot.
>>261874093the universe is inherently deterministic. Free will doesn't exist, but from our perspective reality is so complex that it doesn't really matter.
>>261874093
MENTAL
I MEANT MENTAL
>>261874271
>>261874331
Why the fuck would you give a robot free will after having an extensive track record of them fucking up humanity and ruining millions of lives?
That's irresponsible to begin with.
>>261874051
We will agree to disagree then, but i will concede that Shadowman.exe is the best navi.
>>261873845
No, Protoman does have free will due to his defective reactor. Even after Wily fixed it, he let him keep it for whatever reason. Rock was built without any defects, so he has no free will.
I think Sakurai is the first developer to show that in a neat way. Mega Man's deadpan expression in Smash really drives home that he's a robot, and not an feeling and thinking machine like X.
>>261874587
Quantum processes are "random", anon, which would mean the universe isn't deterministic.
It hasn't been PROVED to be non-deterministic, maybe it's just unpredictable, but it's literally unprovable so there's no easy answer to Free Will vs Determinism.
And it matters a lot, or people wouldn't care so much.
>>261874093
But people can overcome that programming though.
>>261874752
>and not an feeling and thinking machine
but mega can feel and think
just not on the same level as other robots
He still can feel emotions, but only ones that he is programmed to feel
>>261875041
The quantum world may be random, but that only serves to provide inputs for the deterministic larger level physics, the universe is still governed by rules, the only randomness in the universe is what exactly the variables are.
>>261874658
Because Light was a hopeless optimist, and he genuinely thought robots could coexist with humans and make the world a better place.
It might be irresponsible, yeah, but I can't fault him for hoping for the best in spite of what he's seen. If anything the fact it always fucks up makes me think the world of Mega Man is pretty dark.
>>261875217
Only because the censors get broken, which is what the treatment to depression is: fixing those censors.
>>261875367
Light had good intentions, wily was really the one who caused everything to go south. Like it or not people, but wily is the clear villain of the series.
>starts off as a Megas lyric thread
>turns into a debate on free will v determinated fate
>quantum processes
>can robots feel
Goddamit /v/
>>261874690
Wrong again. That award goes to Heatman.exe
>>261875341
>deterministic larger level physics
Larger level physics are literally quantum physics at a larger scale, anon. The only reason is that the probabilities quickly become irrelevant (but don't disappear) as the scale grows and the scenarios get more complex.
There's free will if consciousness has ANY quantum element that "we" have power over. But that would basically mean we have a soul.*tips fedora*
>>261874658
Light sealed and tested X for 30 years to make sure he wasn't making a huge mistake.
Maybe you should play the games before talking about them.
>>261875652
Isn't it wonderful?
>>261875624
I agree with you, but Light still has some retard moments.
Making Gamma being one off the top of my head. Not only did he want to build a giant robot for world peace, he also decided to forgive Wily and let him work on it with him.
>>261875681
Sorry, but Spoutman.exe is supreme.
>>261875716
>Light sealed and tested X for 30 years to make sure he wasn't making a huge mistake.
And then when X showed up Cain made more Reploids based off of him and the world was fucked.
Why? Because Light was a naive dipshit.
>>261875652
I'VE HAD ALL I CAN TAKE
I THINK IT'S TIMEI GO MY SEPARATE WAYS
>>261875681
Best maverick: Storm Eagle
Best Zero boss: Aztec Falcom
>>261876081
If you want to go with cute, then stick with Toadman.exe.
>>261876164
>Cain is a hack and can't into robots
>"It's all Light's fault!"
This is how stupid you sound.
>>261876359
If you want cute, look no further than the classic series.
>>261876164
Again, how is that Light's fault? Cain dug up X. Cain tried to reverse-engineering him without getting proper experts. Even then, wasn't it implied that no one in that age was on Light's level?
Light was naive, but you can't blame him for the Reploids. That's entirely on Cain. You're basically saying that the guy who invented the wheel is to blame for the douchebag later on who fucks up remaking the wheel and turns it into a boulder that crushes a village.
>>261876632
You have me beat there.
>>261876341
But anon, Spark Mandrill is the best Maverick. He has the best music and everything. Storm Eagle is a close second though.
>>261876081
>>261876830
You are indeed a worthy opponent anon, i shall leave you with the second best navi and await our next battle.
>>261863924
IM NOT BROKEN IM NOT THE BREAKMAN
>>261876830
Best music goes to Gravity Beetle and Gravity Antinion.
>>261876164
Except Light's creation, X, never went wild. As a matter of fact X was a devout pacifist. It was Cain who made shoddy copies of X but didn't do any testing on them whatsoever. That's not Light's fault.
>>261874752
Protoman left Dr Light's lab because he was scared and wanted to preserve his own wellbeing. Despite it leading to his powerdown. Protoman joined Dr Wily's asteroid assault team because it suited his interests to meet his younger brother he'd only just heard of in combat.
He decided to help aforementioned younger brother because it suited his interests. Kinship or nepotism couldn't have been a directive before Light considered making other Robot Masters.
Yet Protoman resisted an offer to be repaired by Dr Light some time later, because he felt obligated to his suffering, then later acquiesced at the behest of Mega Man.
That despite the fact both of them once fought each other just for the sake of the fight.
Mega Man isn't an automaton either. He does shit because he wants to. He lives at Dr Light's house with him and Roll because he wants to, despite being given a chance to travel space and spread justice the universe over.
Mega Man requested to change his occupation from "Lab assistant" to "Super Fighting Robot".
He actually does call Wily out on his bullshit fake apologies on repeat occasions.
However has disobeyed orders. Going after Dr Wily despite Dr Light begging him not to, and yet willfully walked into a trap with a fake Light, aware of it, just because he was unwilling to take the risk it might not be.
Yet NONE OF THAT is proof of free will. That's just proof they're both operationally sentient. Which just means they can react to stimulation.
>>261877296
I can agree with you on all that, but isn't Blues having free will due to his defective reactor basically the foundation for his entire character?
>>261876623
>>261876634
>>261877249
Let me hold your hands as I walk you through this.
Look both ways, you stupid shits.
Light made the free will chip for X.
Light did this KNOWING that robots have a long history of being complete fuckups, especially if THEY AREN'T MADE BY HIM.
Despite knowing full and well people will most likely attempt to copy this technology (since everyone does it when something new comes out), he does it anyway because 'muh son'.
Mr. Fuckup #2 comes along and makes piss-poor copies of X's chip.
They both are massive fuckups and have ruined the future. Light moreso than Cain because he has dealt with the shit over and over and over and over again, knowing very well the consequences of his actions while Cain was just hopeful that he knew more than an irrelevant idiot.
This is all Light's fault, because if he had not even invented the chip, Cain wouldn't have gotten the inspiration to make his own and the Mavericks wouldn't have gone wild.
Good intentions or not, this all stems from Dr. Light making it.
>>261877754
>Despite knowing full and well people will most likely attempt to copy this technology
Stop pulling shot out of your ass.
>>261867107
even then, Wily was not able to fix it since the problem turned out not to be the reactor that was faulty but his energy system in general. so now he has an unstable nuclear reactor.
YOU HAD ONE JOB WILY
>>261877754
Forgive me, my X lore is rusty, but weren't the reploids perfectly fine? It was Wily's virus that F*cked them up wasn't it? (At least until X8, but that was by the reploid's own volitions)
>>261877709
No. His broken reactor didn't give him free will or otherwise change what he was capable of.
What it was however, was the germ from which he made his decision to vacate his home, and get into every other circumstance. The whole circumstance being supposedly solved simply by giving Rock a sister.
>>261878107
No, if you watch day of ? you'll see that reploids went nuts way before that. This was the reason why the maverick hunters were founded in the first place.
>>261878013
This is common sense.
Whenever someone invents a new machine or tool, someone will copy its design and modify it to their own ends.
>>261878107
It was the free will chip that ensured they could kill people freely and step out of bounds of what their programming would have restricted otherwise.
>>261877754
Yeah and we should blame Henry Ford for all modern day car accidents since he created the Model T Ford knowing people will fuck it up eventually
>>261877754
I'll accept that Light is naive, but you're just moving the burden of guilt. Light had no idea that there would not be anyone in the future capable of doing jack with his technology. He had no idea that the guy who would find X would be some fucking archeologist. And there'd be no way for him to know that someone unqualified would try to copy his technology.
Light did the work to make sure X wouldn't fuck up. If you build a computer, and then someone else tries to build a computer based off of yours and gets electrocuted because they fucked it up, is that your fault? No. It's their fault because they fucked it up. Light's responsibility for the Mavericks begins and ends with X. Everything else is on Cain and Wily.
>>261878076
If I remember right, Wily is kind of shit with robotic hardware. He was the programming genius. So it's believable that if Protoman's entire energy system is fucked, he wouldn't be able to fix it. All he really did was slap a bandaid on it. It was still enough to earn Proto's gratitude and get him to work for him as Breakman.
>>261876219
Man, that one gave me the fucking feels. If any of them needed to be let off the hook it'd probably be him. He was just fucking about in some timeBUT WHO WAS THE GUN?
>>261878662
>>261878662
It's his fault for inventing something like that in the first place when there was no good that could have come from making something so dangerous.
X wouldn't have been needed if his chip wasn't created. Simple as that.
>>261879005
>Using le wise black man maymay
>>261878947
Other way around. Light is godlike with software while Wily is excellent with hardware. Which is why Light was able to create his Super Fighting Robot long before Wily was able to repeat Light's success.
>>261878107
What >>261878385 was saying. Sigma was the leader of the maverick hunters, but then they ran into Zero. Zero was the one who infected Sigma, who I think was the first reploid Cain built modeled on X. The virus changed in Sigma to become the Sigma Virus, which is a different and more powerful virus than the Maverick.
I think Sigma/Zero virus causes the maverick virus though.
>>261867119
Bob and George explains this fairly well.
>>261878947
Major headcanon here:
Protoman was thankful, but quickly realized Wily was insane and vowed to stop him while pretending to aid him. He was still bitter toward light and chose not to tell him, but he was curious as to the potential of his "replacement" and so tested his skills when he could, it helped that these fights helped him sell his cover.
>>261878967
Hard Man wasn't doing shit either. He was retired. Really all of the robot masters in HR-R didn't ask for it.
I think it made it more interesting. Mega man talks about fighitng for peace and justice, and his conflicted feeling. But when you see him from the point of view of the RMs, here's a relentless murder machine. Hell, Quickman just calls him Death.
>>261876634
As an aside; I'd like to mention the Wheel is much much more recent a development than you seem to think it is.
The wheel is newer than writing, distillation, shipwrighting, permanent housing, coins, monotheism, the pyramids, crop rotation, bronze, swords, antibiotics, and the twogirlthreeway.
>>261879558
Except cr(l)ashman, he is on Megaman's side.
>>261879181
It also explains why X is resistant against all the viruses he encounters as well.
>>261879139
Jesus FUCK do you even hear yourself? Ok fine then. Henry Ford is the greatest villain in the world since his invention led to untold deaths and opened the floodgates for several tragedies and accidents. The Wright Brothers are also indirectly responsible for 9/11. The first men who began the bronze age is also indirectly responsible for the murder of everyone killed with a metallic thing. Except because that's fucking stupid. Light's invention worked. Light's invention worked well. It did EXACTLY what it was intended to do. Dr. Cain attempted to repeat Light's success and fucked up. So Dr. Cain is the one who fucked up and can be blamed for it. Stop being stupid.
>>261879558
Yeah, Quick and the Blue was the one that really got me into the Megas in the first place, and it was pretty fucking heavy.
But in HR:R atleast Hardman went out the way he wanted to, even had a crowd begging him not to, but Needle Man was actually better off doing Suicide by Mega and well, Shadow was all sorts of fucked up.
The only downside of that album was no Wily song, the two we got were god tier, and I would have liked to hear what they would have done with him once Gamma was destroyed.
>>261873845
but mega was going to kill wily
>>261880073
Not in the original.
>>261879558
Shadowman needed to be put down since he was going insane and Needleman was a mercy killing since he would never find peace.
>>261879139
>no good that could have come from that
That's not how Light saw it. He made X for the same reason he made Blues, Rock and Roll. He wanted to make robots that could live with humans and help them. He created X to be someone that could help the entire world move into a golden age and carry his dream far beyond a human's lifespan, if that's what he chose to do.
It's like deciding to not make the lightbulb because someone later on may make the electric chair. But we're also forgetting that X is equipped with weaponry, and the capsules throughout the games. Light was an optimist, but he wasn't a complete idiot. He had fail safes in the event something went to shit, which it did.
>>261880073
>US version
>>261873073
relevant
>>261872835
FOR
WHAT
PURPOSE
>>261880182
Speaking of needle, anyone think that the second voice in that song is the doc robot copying Airman?
>>261868238
>>261872835
You guys do realize that The Megas next major project won't be Mega Man right? After they finish Mega Man 1's soundtrack, they're moving ontoCastlevania
>>261880032
HR:B had Magnetman who only wanted to be with Roll, but that pissed Rock off.
>>261876219
Did anyone else mishear the lyrics to this song as "Blues had lead us into a trap" instead of "The clues had lead us into a trap" ?
>>261880353
Doc Robot could have worked a bit in this, what with the Gunman going after the Gemineye could have been him, but in the end since there was no mention of him I have to assume that he doesn't exist in this telling of the story
>tfw you're in the ice section of the game
I can tell I'm going to hate this part, just like the fucking Waterworks from 1.
This is a damn fine game, but I still think I like 1 more at this point.
They really did nerf a ton of stuff from 1 though. Stronger Cannons do a lot less and seem to come later in the game.
>>261880484
Struggling to see how they'll put a unique spin on castlevania lore.
>>261880032
Yeah I would have liked another Wily song too, but they decided to give more of the spotlight to Proto Man. Which I'm fine with, I'm Not The Breakman was amazing. At least they didn't make the entire damn album on Proto. Probably because Protomen already have him damn well covered.
>>261865718
He's powerful but unstable, and Mega Man is already able to beat enemies far stronger than he is. Proto Man really just wants to be left alone, but he can't help helping his little brother.
Have some OC, /v/
fuck you for making me spend 30 minutes on this shit
>>261880578
And don't forget Megatainment had Elecman who was executed during a live broadcast.
This was some pretty dark shit when you hear about it from the Robot Masters side. Except for Bomb Man, he's a dick.
>>261880659
Forgot to mention though, holy FUCK are PAs useful now.
>>261880353
That does make the most sense. I was glad to hear he rejected his ideas for revenge though.
>>261880578
But he was still fighting for wily.
"So my dad wants to rule the world..."
>>261879181
>Wily is excellent with hardware
That's demonstrably false. Wily has stolen Light's robots and designs repeatedly. In the case of Bass he made a complete schematic copy of Mega Man to use his upgrades. Because he specifically couldn't conceive of anything that could counteract the power adapter.
At best Wily is highly efficient at reprogramming, proficient enough at engineering to reproduce much of anything, and lucky enough to have resources to perform the former, and superpowerful power sources to reverse engineer drop in his lap.
>>261880353
I just assumed that voice was Wily's programming, telling Needle to be a killer.
With the gunman in Gemineye, I always thought it was just Mega Man. I might be wrong on that one.
how do I get good at the original series of megaman?
the only games I've really played were the battle network ones
>>261880673
>>261880484
WHERE'S THE FUCKING ISSUE
I was going to type something like Castlevania > Mega Man
but...I can't
they're pretty much about the same, surprisingly
>>261880659
Don't worry. Waterworks is worse.
Also, the enemies are nerfed to compensate for the not being healed after every battle.
>>261880173
>>261880227
Being told to stop and stopping doesn't change what he was doing before being told to stop.
>>261880886
That was more less
>I'm fighting for Wily
and more
>Yeah our families hate each other but what does that have to do with us?
While it's been five years since Act II, they've been on tour and they've been doing original songs and covers, too. Act III is gonna be good, but I feel like they're pretty burned out. Raul Panther released a quick vine of him doing a little chord on a guitar, so it's definitely in the works,
>>261880929
Deep underground
Ten miles down
A man stands below
The city he will destroy
Stop.
I dunno, sounds airman-y
>>261880484
I want to be disappointed, but that sounds cool. As long as they do an X album in the future. I think they said they won't do an album for MM4 or 5 though.
>>261880215
Great fail safes. Armor upgrades sure are nice now that humanity is entirely fucked and X is dead.
>>261879910
Cars and sentient robots are different, believe it or not.
People who operate cars get killed, while robots who act on their own free will kill humans.
Henry Ford invented a machine based off of the carriage without the need of horses. Light created a chip that gave robots free will when they didn't need it.
Light had no good reason to create it, and he was well aware of how unstable robots and inventors with ambition were.
>>261880993
Start with 2, it's the easiest of the 6.
Or you can play X which is also pretty damn easy. Start with Chill Penguin because he's the recommended first.
Just keep at it.
>>261881173
>atomic energy controller
WHAT
COULD
GO
WRONG
Would you the GeminEye?
>>261880809
I...I never thought about the static like that... wow.
>>261880886
True though it didn't sound like he really wanted to go along with it
>>261881270
I had started with the first game, and it just seemed like you had to memorize the entirety of the game to do well
I also got network transmission, but can't get fireman.exe
>>261870885
All the different megaman's from his smash.
>>261880886
With Magnet Man, I think he was doing his own thing. Mega Man just came down on him like a ton of bricks because he was a robot built by Wily. What he had been doing, and his relationship with Roll didn't matter.
That's just what I picked up on it. Roll telling him her brother wanted him dead was her answer. So I thought that's what it was implied. She left because Rock wanted him dead, and it wasn't that he wanted him dead because he was with Roll. It's still cold as fuck
Some of the robot masters in The Megas seem to have free will, why did Rock kill Magnet Man, for example? What was the point?
>>261881264
And X did exactly that. He assisted humans at every turn. He did exactly what he was built for. Dr. Cain said "shit man I bet I could do that" but fucked it up. Dr. Light's proof of concept did work. But Dr. Cain did not put the same effort into his derivatives. You're basically ignoring Dr. Cain building a swingset but not reading the fucking manual and coming up with a bunch of "spare pieces" at the end of the project. And then when little Sally Sue breaks her arm because the thing broke you say that Light is indirectly responsible.
>>261881172
I know. I'm not saying it was a good reason for rock to kill him, but it's the reason given. (also i think he's a little protective of his sister.
>>261881538
What do you mean by memorizing? You can take your time in every MM game, though the first series punishes you by respawning enemies if you don't rush in
>>261881538
First game is pretty hard, don't get discouraged if you can't do it.
Fireman.exe can be tough. Make sure to get any aqua chips you can get (I seem to think you can buy Aquaswords at that point, but it's been forever and I don't remember)
The difficulty DROPS like a rock after Fireman.exe in Network Transmission.
>>261881773
Because he was trying to fuck his sister
I've been following this thread since it started, I love you guys.
>>261881773
He didn't want no son of Wily's dating his sister.
>>261881773
>>261881751
>this fucking hivemind
>>261881949
This picture just ruined Pathologic's enemy design for me
>>261881951
>First game is pretty hard, don't get discouraged if you can't do it.I can't get past Iceman's stage. Nor can I beat Fireman.
I want to just move on to Megaman 2 but my pride won't let me. I've beaten every other robot master. Though I had to use Cutman's weapon against ElecMan. He does way too much damage to risk using the buster.
>>261881270
I'm weird. I think 1 is easier than 2. I guess it must be the last section with the Alien and all the Wilys. That gives me trouble, whereas I can speedrun MM1.
I'd say he should go in chronological order. But he can play 2-1-3 just as well and then go on with the rest.
>>261880809
Holy shit is this true? Source please, I must know. That song sounds so upbeat though, that's some Protomen-tier dark twist. Holy shit.
>>261881941
well, I picked cutman, and climbing up the tower just seemed to fuck me over hard.
and I guess it didn't hit me to take my time some more, I was just trying to figure out the game.
>>261881951
>The difficulty DROPS like a rock after Fireman.exe in Network Transmission
that might be a good thing for me, because fireman just fucks me over and over, I get that I can slide under the fire, it's just that the timing is too exact and that shit hurts
also the guard chip in that game is fucking laughable.
HOW DO I GET GOOD IN MEGAMAN ZERO
>>261882384
Git Gud
>>261882158
If it makes you feel better I haven't beaten Megaman 1. There's really not much point, it's like Street Fighter 1.
>>261882158
Did you get the Magnet Beam from Elecman's stage? You can use that to ignore most of the bullshit in Iceman's stage.
>>261882384
You don't.
>>261882384
I haven't played MMZ but from what I've heard it seems like a speedrunner's dream game. In which case it relies on pseudomemorizing the map, making a route and practicing
>>261882245
I apologize but that's just my take on it. There's no actual statement saying he had his brains blown out, but from the way he's giving his speech and then at the end his lyrics cut off, the music fizzles out into static, and suddenly you hear some generic TV sounds and music it makes it seem like he hijacked a TV signal trying to get his words out like some robotic Max Headroom but Megaman was having none of that shit.
>>261881773
I think Mega Man came after them all for just reason: They were built by Wily. So he just assumed they were out to get him and destroy humans. After two games he stopped asking questions and just started shooting everything.
>>261882672
I figured it was headcanon, but by god is it good headcanon
>>261882485
Wily's castle is fun after you beat the first stage.
>mfw i like the protomen and the megas
>mfw on /v/ you're not allowed to like two similar things
>>261872835
NO IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
I MIGHT KILL MYSELF BEFORE THEN
>>261882158
Ice Man and Fire Man do pretty much require rote memorization. But nothing can beat the relief when you past those areas. And I think both RMs are easy.
Hell, Ice Man is always the first guy I go for.
>>261882752
But all the Mega Man songs in The Megas paint him as a good guy that really doesn't want to do this shit
man this shit is dark
>>261882752
I thought he went in guns blazing and after the first two incidents, he began to question what he was doing.
>>261881264
Reploids were given free will, and some were criminals. This was inevitable without Light's extreme testing and care put into their designs. Cain's crappy copying made them susceptible to viruses and glitchy.
But it didn't ruin the world. Wily's Maverick Virus was the biggest obstacle to Reploids and humans living in peace, and despite several apocalyptic plans caused by him infecting Sigma, his influence still eventually ended. From Mega Man Zero on, all the problems are caused by Weil, and by ZX Reploids and Humans have actually become BETTER than the world Light had imagined. Light didn't do much villainous at all.
>>261882672
But Elecman was rallying against robot slavery/human cruelty, Megaman wouldn't have killed him because he wasn't even opposing him. I always assumed it was "I'll send the spark of war along the wire", meaning that the end was actually Elecman frying the circuits of whatever was recording it and the sounds after were just the signal fizzling out.
>>261882820
...anon, what the fuck are you talking about? Everyone in this thread likes both of them.
>>261882820
We all like both. It's just some of us like one more than the other.
>tfw the only reason you bother getting the Hadoken is for that spider boss
I don't got time for spiders. I have a world to save and I must kill fast.Does it even work against Sigma?
>>261883058
MM1: FIGHT FOR JUSTIC!
MM2: Wow, maybe things weren't as black and white as i thought... but still! I have to put an end to Wily
MM3: Why am i fighting?
>>261883172
>But Elecman was rallying against robot slavery/human cruelty
And Wily was the one that gave him that idea. Rock took him down because he and the rest of the robots sided with Wily.
>>261883341
>Does it even work against Sigma?
Very much so.
>>261883341
I know the shoryuken does
>>261882924
>bitches think little mac and samus is cuter than mega man and samus sharing their suffering
>>261883341
Works on the dog and his first form, but not the huge final form, I don't think. Mostly since you can't aim it at him
>>261883172
Mega didn't believe they were slaves, he didn't agree with Elec's message or cause.
>>261883341
It does.
>>261883456
I'd like to think Crashman was the one that opened his eyes.
>>261883456
You had it
you had a chance to use WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOR
and you didn't
fuck you
>>261883484
Would Wily really be that sly? In Protomen universe, Wily is a conniving bastard who's always one step ahead of Light. But Megas universe... not so sure.
Unless you're trying to tell me that they were rallying against Megaman and for Wily, which doesn't make any sense given the arguments presented.
>>261883692
Samus should show up during Mega's final smash.
The forgotten have to stick together.
>>261883013
I think that's how he sees himself. He has a lot of doubt and questions himself and what he's doing, but when it's time to go do it he puts it aside and becomes some kind of unstoppable murder machine who doesn't give a fuck what you have to say or what your story is.
>>261883325
>>261883204
disregard that i suck cocks
going over this thread i realise im more tired than i though
and that i was wrong
and that the protomen need to get their shit together and finish act 3 for fucks sake
Megas robots you wanted to live:
Elecman
Magnetman
Quickman
>>261881949
Man, I was having trouble with picture from the thumbnail.
Thought those were some big ol titties.
>>261883701
Speaking of that dog: Was I the only one who thought that was a rebuilt Treble when I was a kid?
>>261883830
He says in his song that they joined him willingly
Their eyes were opened easily. – Rise up my sons
It was like flipping a switch. – There is much be done.
They were more than happy to join me. – This is final stage.
Because, they believe. – Lead us into a new age.
>>261884036
Crashman.
i don't care if his death was necessary, i liked him.
>>261883830
That's the thing, Wily isn't exactly sly, he's just dogmatic in his belief that this really IS the answer to the problems the world faces now, getting run by Robots.
So Wily probably instilled a almost exact copy of his beliefs just to proslytize and see if he can drum up support, but by the time of Gamma Unchained it seems like he didn't get anything.
This Wily is really sad compared to Protos.
>>261863924
Protoman was a bitch.
>>261883172
Here's something cool.
Elecman sends the spark of war along the wire.
And then Sparkman's song is "You've Sparked a War"
>>261884145
They "chose" to join him because he reprogrammed them to believe in his cause.
>>261884036
Crashman. It would have been nice to see him and Rock team up to take Wily down.
I swear to God, I am going to get so many fucking Lance chips for this cunt one day.
>>261874752
>>261875225
They say this but all the robot masters have shown not only emotion(Which could be simulated) But they have the ability to see their own actions for what they are and resist their programming to an extent.
>>261884294
IT'S LIGHTS OUT
LIGHTS OUTFOR YOU
Spark Man is a big guy.
>>261884036
Magnet, Quick, All of HR:RAnd I can't help but shake the feeling that Wily died once Gamma was destroyed in that massive explosion so lets add that to the mix
Ordered this bad boy new. I guess people didn't think it was hot shit.
So just how 'bad' was X3 on the Playstation?
Post comparisons to the SNES version if you got em.
>>261884036
Flash Man, all he wanted was to be with his hero, dammit.
>>261884639
Flash was a deranged pervert who wanted to keep his husbano in suspended animation for all of time.
megaman reboot time
capcom put you in charge
only catch is it has to be a genre that megaman has never been before
what is it?
>>261884145
>It was like flipping a switch
>>261884604
I thought it was more or less implied, not only in the game but in the song.
>You were torn between the hero and your fear
Sort of like Mega Man was rummaging through the wreckage while everything is collapsing around him, gets knocked out and Protoman drags him out
>>261884620
It's pretty much just X3 but with shitty anime cutscenes.
It's not like the Final Fantasy ports or anything.
>>261884604
Wasn't Make Your Choice and I Refuse To Believe after Gamma Unchained? That's what I assumed at least. They're going back and forth over whether or not to kill Wily, so I assume he survived after Gamma is destroyed.
>>261884604
Light was apparently dead too
>>261884820
Pretty much. Dude was hella gay, yo.
>has no problem killing robot masters just because they were made by wily
>doesn't kill wily
ROBOT
LOGIC
Protomen's megaman/protoman fucked up by not planning any of their shit and just charging into the streets shooting shit up, then expecting hapless bystanders who have already grown up living in fear to throw their lives away.
It's a little more understandable during the standoff but otherwise if you're going to get groceries and some killer robot starts blowing up all the security bots nearby, you aren't gonna give your life to help it especially when it starts losing.
>>261884958
I thought refuse to believe followed immediately after Make your choice and then led into the battle with gamma.
>>261884849
3D RPG. No party members, just Mega Man. It's a remake of the first game. As you go through expanded stages which are now regions, you get XP to spend on your Mega Buster. When you beat a RM you acquire their ability too, and can upgrade it as you get more XP.
>>261885102
Well, they can and often are rebuilt without too much hassle AND at one point they were carrying a virus to turn him evil.
>>261884958
Gamma unchained was about Wily reprogramming Gamma, not the battle with him.
