>there will never be a jedi knight game with dark souls combat
;_;
Everything would die in one swing.
>>261494231
Lots and lots of Droids with more armor
What about that material that ``short-circuits'' lightsabres? I think it was in the Kotor games.
Jedi Academy had the best combat so it is safe to say OP is a faggot.
>>261493802
Good. Don't fix what isn't fucking broken.
>>261493802
>a jedi knight game with dark souls combat
Why would you ever fucking want this.
>>261495057
Then It's a Musuo.
of course there wouldn't be. dark souls is all about the weight of the combat and lightsabers are all identical and lightweight.
I think the search for the "perfect lightsaber game" is akin to the "perfect zombie apocalypse game"; the standard is impossible.
>>261498419
>all identical and lightweight
It's funny, for how weightless lightsabers are supposed to be, there's a lot of weight and gravitas in the fighting for the original trilogy. Probably because Lucas was emulating Kurosawa's samurai fights.
But Dark Souls is all about slow, weighty combat where calculated decisions are made to determine victory. Lightsaber battles are quick, lightweight dances about looking for a weak point and ending the fight in one blow. They're completely different.
Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy did Lightsaber battles the best they really could ever have been done in a third person action game.
>>261498138
You're are a Musoa
>>261498419
The perfect zombie apocalypse game is something like skyrim but in a zombie apocalypse, why no one has made that yet still baffles me
Anyways if you think the standard is impossible you're a fucking retard
>>261499108
>it's like skyrim with zombies!
trashman.jpg
>>261497069
This.
The combat in the jedi knight games is great.
>>261499108
The standard is impossible because the end result just wouldn't be fun to play.
>>261497069
Because the kids on this board believe Dark Souls is good.
>>261493802
Why would you want that? Dark Souls combat is fucking terrible compared to the Jedi Knight games.
>>261493802
Bloodborne's style of combat would be more appropriate, given how it encourages the player to be aggressive.
>>261498904
Plus the props they were using to represent them were basically giant metal bars. The more slow paced fighting style of the original trilogy makes a lot more sense than the acrobatics of the prequel though since when all it takes is a light graze to kill you you probably don't want to spend a lot of time with your weapon spinning around uselessly behind your back.
>>261499369
Clearly you have no idea how to have fun
>>261498904
That and everyone was either geriatric or never so much as punched someone in the face.
>>261499389
It's not bad but there's no fucking way it would work in Jedi combat
If anything it'd be like... Way of the Samurai or something
>>261499410
>given how it encourages the player to be aggressive.
That's what happens when you lessen punishment and remove the need for perseverance to progress.
>>261499358
"Is this T-shirt red"
Easy ;)
>there will never be ____ game but more like dark souls
so sick of this shit
>Dark Souls combat for a Jedi Knight game
>Dark Souls combat at all
>sluggish, and janky shit for a Jedi Knight game
>>261495802
"no"
what you're thinking of is "cortosis weave" which was some BS material that could deflect a swing from a lightsaber.
>>261496224
>Jedi Academy had the best combat
Whatever you say, Darth Maul.
>>261498419
>lightsabers are all identical and lightweight.
I dunno. What about twin-bladed lightsabers like >>261499692 and dual-wielding lightsabers like in jedi knight: jedi academy?
>Doing a vertical swing
>Ever
Could you only swing diagonally in Academy or am I remembering wrong?
>>261499415
There's probably some Jedi lore justification for all the flipping but spinning around a weightless laser sword seems like a bad idea
>wanting slow as fuck lightsaber combat
Shit idea, OP. DMC with lightsabers would be cool tho.
>>261499887
You are incorrect
>>261499415
>>261500114
god those movies were such pieces of shit
>>261499553
Come on. It's not totally like a hack and slash. Bloodborne still looks pretty challenging. But since I haven't been keeping up with news about the game, how did they lessen punishment? Was it the health regain for counter attacks?
>>261500230
What movies? Oh you must mean those cheap chinese star wars knock-off movies, right?
>>261499606
yes/no
which door leads out?
oh wait I only get one question.
>>261498138
a Jedi Musou game just sounds more plausible than a Jedi Souls game, too bad it'll both suck
>>261499415
Whoops I was wrong. Apparently they were wooden dowels and the reason they hold back all their swings is because the things would snap super easy.
>>261493802
>dark souls combat
Been playing JKA since 05, dark souls combat is utter trash compared to the complexity and timing of JKA combat, dont even dare to compare that shit to any JK game. And I gently ask your casual ass to leave, thanks.
God dark souls fags are so fucking retarded sometimes
It's easy to replicate Dark Souls combat in JK.
>Toggle walk as default and run on hotkey
>Only use strong style.
>Disable all force powers except heal.
>G_saberrealistic combat 1000
The joke is that Dark Souls has fucking horrible combat compared to JK series, even dark forces 2 lightsaber duels were more intense.
>>261493802
>hurr durr look at me wave my lightsaber back and forth
>such good combat
>much greatness
Holy balls do I want a new jedi knight game. I played the shit out of the jedi outcast demo; like 50 hours just in that hanger(pic related), then got the full game. The lightsaber combat is so fantastic. I can't even imagine what kind of lightsaber combat would be possible on PC and current gen consoles(PS4/XOne)
Why, /v/? Why isn't there a new jedi knight game? Does lucasarts/disney/whoever hate gamers?
>>261498419
>I think the search for the "perfect lightsaber game" is akin to the "perfect zombie apocalypse game"; the standard is impossible.
Nigga OP posted a pic of literally the perfect lightsaber game.
>>261501232
Hey man Dark Souls's combat is pretty good, especially considering that there are dozens of different weapons. Shit is fun to play even if the skill ceiling is very low.
>>261501619
>dark souls
>doge souls
I always knew Soulsfags were meme-spouting, shitposting autistic shitlords.
>>261497069
Well for one there is a way higher skill ceiling.
>>261501619
He's playing with cheats on. He could just run into the guy and they both become dismembered.
>>261493802
>2014
>Still caring about Star Trek.
>>261501665
it's called The Force Unleashed games.
>>261501889
>Dark Souls
>higher skill ceiling than JK combat
You are adorable
>>261501934
>playing Jedi Outcast without g_sabermorerealistic 3
It's like you hate fun.
>>261501974
>>261502097
If JK is so good how come the multiplayer deader than my sex life?
>>261502303
DS is literally for dudebros and casuals who want to be "so hardcore".
JK is fun and challenging. Art in gameplay.
>>261502041
you got jokes nigga
>>261501889
>Higher skill ceiling
Enough with you delusional shitlords.
>Look at me ma! I just pressed a button and automatically parried that guy!
>Muh 100% damage reduction shields
>Backstabs
>>261493802
Prefer a Jedi game either first person with Dark Messiah combat or a Dragon's Dogma-style one.
>>261502303
Well, let's see here... jedi outcast came out in 2002(12 years ago) and jedi academy in 2003. BOTH games still have people playing them. Add 2 and 2 together.
>>261493802
>there will never be a souls game with jedi knight combat
fixed that for you you underage nigger
>>261502509
>DS is literally for dudebros and casuals who want to be "so hardcore".
Sounds like Jedi Knight fans to me.
Dark Souls combat with lightsabers would be absurd. It'd be everything that jedi and lightsabers aren't.
Not to mention that JK combat is better and more skill based than dark souls. God what I would do for a new JK game.
>>261502303
that would imply JK multiplayer to be nonexistent which is false
>>261502631
>or a Dragon's Dogma-style one.
"THE FORCE IS PUSHING MEEEEEE"
>>261502893
>SITH HUNT IN TWOS, JEDI
>>261502765
i-is there any hope for bloodborne's combat? Can the game be radically changed from now to february when it releases?
>>261493802
>a game with good combat will never be ruined by a bad combat system
Good
>>261502041
>>261502512
Jokes aside I really liked the final battle against Vader if you went Dark Side ending in the first game. I hadn't felt like that since Outcast came out.
>One on one, any force power tricks and he'll slap your shit.
>Vader's slow and wounded, but fucking built like a tower and blocks almost anything you try to throw at him, trying to out endure you.
>>261502779
>JK
>dudebros and casuals
get the fuck out before you embarrass yourself, me, and everyone else in this thread any further. I'm giving you one minute.
does anyone remember an old yt video where the guy spams a badass enemy and dies to him a lot and also tries killing him with lando? I remember there was a nice song playing with the video. shit, can't find it now.
I can't remember which star wars game it was, but I think it was jedi academy
>>261493802
>Souls combat
relatively slow paced and doesn't rely on much movement during fights
>Jedi combat
fast paced, lots of action going on with tons of movement not excluding vertical movement
stop trying to mash together games that don't fit, faggot.
>>261503092
IIRC couldn't you just spam lightning until QTE?
>>261502543
>>Muh 100% damage reduction shields
The fuck is wrong with that?
>>261503058
no, especially since it's console only
>>261502041
>comparing the shit that is The Force Unleashed to glorious Jedi Knight
you fucking casual, check this shit and educate yourself
1o1 duel, ESL finals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9efayB8HpM
staff TDM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXgWOn0t2MY
duals 1o1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV3Ci-TGepI
best frag known to man (shitty fragmovie tho)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWpBW3azhWM#t=262
>>261502779
>>261503347
No, but sadly his one flaw is that he sometimes loses his guard to force push. Anything else doesn't work, especially aerial moves is asking for a beating.
>>261503418
it was a joke, you autistic savant.
>>261503348
pretty much everything.
>online play
>only guys playing single saber and red(strong) style
Dark Souls combat is too melee focused whereas a good Jedi game would need to balance lightsaber and force combat equally.
I wouldn't mind heavier, more deliberate saber combat, though.
WHEN THE FUCK DO I GET TO BECOME A JEDI IN THIS GAME
Im stuck on level 3 in some mining facility and I cant find a way to progress in the level
Should I just uninstall?
>nobody ever remembers that objective-based siege gametype
>>261503348
Where's the risk? Even if you manage to block in JK you still take random chip damage.
>>261503794
More like pretty much nothing you scrub.
>>261504004
Keep going faggot. You can't eat your dessert without eating your greens.
>>261503815
The game came out in 2002. You're lucky there's people still playing multiplayer.
>>261504139
How do I activate to conveyor belt in level 3? every time I step on i just die. and there's some other room that kills me if I stay in it too long. not sure what to do in there
>>261503826
>Dark Souls combat is too melee focused whereas a good Jedi game would need to balance lightsaber and force combat equally.
In ESL people play with no force
>>261493802
dark souls is too slow for starwars. it wouldn't work at all.
>>261504004
>Should I just uninstall?
What the shit am I reading? Is that how modern gamers actually play games? They don't get a lightsaber and force powers within the first 5 minutes and suddenly they want to uninstall?
>>261503251
p-pls
>>261504004
The game is pretty hardcore when it comes to unorthodox level progression. I guess you're trying to get past the place where the mining carts go in.
>Go to the tech center with a balcony to the sewage area
>A pipe shows up under you at intervalls, jump on it and ride it into a tunnel. Destroy the machines in there to progress.
>>261504204
Wasn't talking about online play now, I back when I was playing there was nothing but guys using strong-style single saber.I got my ass kicked by some guy playing defensive dual sabers though, made me learn how to use them.
>>261504004
the beginning sucks dick but it gets way better
>>261504732
>>261504808
thanks
>>261504776
>dual sabers
>defensive
>good
you don't know shit about what you're talking about
>>261504436
and just now you became aware of it? seriously?
shit has been like this for some years now
Does anyone know how to get Dark Forces II working on Windows 7 x86? When I get into game the colors fuck up and keep flashing some mushroom samba bullshit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEDiY6SMUz8
>>261504732
And then you get to fuckin bespin and it's just corridors of stormtroopers to rape.
>>261497069
Because it'd be fucking rad, you shitter.
>>261499358
"What door will you go through when you die?"
>>261505376
>forced animations
>invincibility frames
>horrible hitboxes
No. JK was fair and polished, keep your shit gameplay in your shit games.
>>261505309
>Bespin airducts
>Sending distress call to rebels
>Stealth section
>HOW FUCKING HUGE IS THIS DAMN SHIP?
>Floating between gas lines in zero gravity
This game has its moments of despair
>tfw no Imperial Commando
>>261499358
I pick the right door
>>261505628
>forced animations
Over animation cancelling and wiggling? No thanks
>Dark Souls combat
Worst thing I've ever seen.
>forced animation
>shitty ass camera system
What it would be nice for is Overgrowth.
>god-tier combat system (not entirely for swords, yet)
>runs fast as fuck
>moddable
>can already make streaks of blood in a body
I'd play a JK mod in Overgrowth.
>>261505376
I even like Dark Souls and all, but wouldn't you rather have a DS game with JK combat?
>>261505376
>>Because it'd be fucking rad, you shitter.
It'd be fucking terrible and wouldn't make sense for a jedi to fight like that
Dark Souls combat needs to stay in Dark Souls
>>261499982
No it wouldn't you retard how would you combo if everything died in three hits?
>>261499954
>There's probably some Jedi lore justification for all the flipping but spinning around a weightless laser sword seems like a bad idea
Years of practice + psychological warfare. All the fancy flips and blocking blaster shots & shit is basically their reputation.
The reason the saber combat seems so much more weighty is because Vader got gimped super hard on Mustafar and had to rely on brute strength to get by (he had to literally relearn saber combat from the ground up) and Luke was trained by Yoda, but only for a few years. Most Jedi are trained from birth, Luke kind of got a few years of cramming, so he's naturally not going to be as talented as a Jedi that spent years on their technique.
But yeah, fucking around with a weightless laser sword is, in universe, a terrible idea. Isn't there one retard in the EU that managed to get a lightsaber and accidentally ran himself through because of the lack of weight?
>>261499358
Why not asking some obvious math question?
>What's 2+2
>5
Not really easy to muddle up the truth there
>>261506245
I look at this picture and just see slavs.
Why?
But JO combat>DaS combat
>>261507373
I see these and see niggers fighting.
>>261499954
>>261507131
They use the force to avoid hitting themselves IIRC
>>261507475
No niggers where I come from, maybe that's why.
>>261503418
>there just dancing around eachother
>>261507692
Actually, thinking about it, maybe not.
Only thing would be the wide ass haymaker punches.
>>261493802
>slow clunky combat
>for a weapon where literally all weight is in the hilt
Thank god retards like you aren't in game design.
>>261503418
Welp, its official. Tourneyfaggots can make anything boring.
>>261504069
stamina presents the risk.
>>261503418
these are the worst videos i have ever seen
>>261508141
Nigger its like you didn't even see the original trilogy.
>>261507276
Either way if you confirmed which bird was which, you wouldn't know if they were standing in front of their respective door. How would you know if the door behind the lying bird sends you to heaven or hell?
>>261503418
>11 minutes into the finals
>2 kills
Did a double check, thought I'd accidentally stumbled into a LoL tournament.
>there will never be a magic the gathering game like dark souls made by platinum games
why even liveonly complete fucking retards think like this, kill yourself OP
>>261504040
See? ;_;
>>261507131
In the original movie they asked lucas if they could do one-hand moves, given it was a laser sword it had to be pretty light.
He replied, "No, it's heavy. Hold it with two hands, like Excalibur."
I think the EU managed to justify it by saying that the projector inside the hilt unbalanced the saber and gave it fucked up inertia so it is really hard to control without force powers and/or a firm grip.
-There's some really nice shit in EU if you ignore the stupid shit, like a form of saber combat that involves turning off and on your lightsaber to bypass a parry.
>There will never be a jedi knight game with Die by the Sword combat
>>261505275
HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH
>>261508465
>heaven or hell
Neither of those doesn't exist in the first place, silly anon.
>>261508992
Neither do the birds, fagmaster. It's a riddle.
>>261508397
The lightsaber combat generally sucks in the original trilogy(the vader and luke fights were sort of visceral). Yes, they do look iconic, but come on.
>>261503418
Jesus fucking christ the multiplayer in that game looks fucking terrible. That guy with the staff just spins it the entire time. The jumping all over the place makes it look like some crappy melee only quake game where everyone just franticly swings their lightsaber around like an autistic kid.
>>261505275
Is he strafejumping? Please tell me I'm imagining this.
>>261509114
>fagmaster
Stop forcing this made-up word, fedorian.
>>261509218
>crappy melee only quake game where everyone just franticly swings their lightsaber around like an autistic kid
I cannot see the problem
>>261503418
>jedi academy
>not jedi outcast
Absolutely disgusting
>>261509148
At least they felt like actual struggles, like two guys trying desperately not to get dismembered by laser swords.
The prequels were just a bunch of dudes showing off fight choreography and they're not actually TRYING to hit each other.
>>261509148
>real people actually dueling with laser swords
>not cartoon characters flipping around off walls and throwing rocks at each other
>THIS SUCKS
Plinkett reviews aside you're a retard. That's what most sword duels look like. Sorry if that's boring for you
>>261509428
It's an insult, dipshit, it's even better if you don't like the word
>there will never be a game set in the world of Full Throttle but with the mounted combat of Darksiders
>>261509770
>>261509892
>defending the boring lightsaber fights in the OT
George? Is that you?
>>261510083
>implying George didn't have more to do with the prequels
Enjoy your cartoons.
Can't we all just fucking agree that the original trilogy AND the prequels did shit lightsaber combat? You would not fight super slow as if you were holding a heavy sword, but neither would you randomly flip, spin and swing your sword around in ways that aren't even directed at the enemy. It would be fast paced but with the opponents facing each other at all times and not engaging in retarded acrobatics.
>>261499358
I ask the birds to assign heads or tails to each door, then flip a coin and walk through it.
>>261510083
Why would George defend those fights when if anything it was him who wanted the fights to be more acrobatic in the Prequels?
>>261510083
>not liking everything about the OT
ROTJ had an amazing space battle scene and a great lightsaber duel, eat shit.
>>261510283
Fair enough. Would be nice if there was saber combat right in the middle somewhere
>all this dark souls hate
Ya blew it, /v/, it's all lost thanks to newcomers from Reddit and sonyggers.
>>261493802
>there will never be a jedi knight game with dark souls combat
>with dark souls combat
Why? For what purpose? The combat system in JK is sublime.
>>261510502
Acrobatics is one thing, flailing and flipping around like a retard is another.
>>261510696
>le deepest combat
>>261510793
How dumb it may be is beside my point. I was attacking his jocular accusation.
>>261510696
Nothing against Dark Souls, but JK is a whole other tier of games.
>implying Reddit and NeoGAF have played these games
>>261511031
I didn't say nothing about Souls combat, faggot.
>>261510696
He fucked up trying to suggest making a superior game more like a mediocre one
Jedi Knight just works better than DS.
>>261509741
This. Everything in JKA was slower.
>>261508792
>In the original movie they asked lucas if they could do one-hand moves, given it was a laser sword it had to be pretty light.
>He replied, "No, it's heavy. Hold it with two hands, like Excalibur."
Not to sound like an asshole, but Lucas really isn't the best source for Star Wars. When you look at the prequels and shit, you kind of realize that the hostile space western vibe the OT had was a happy accident.
>>261510539
There's nothing wrong with going green screen. There is something wrong with having shitty writing and plot. Which is what the entire star wars series does. The prequels were fucking terrible, the sequels were overrated as shit.
>mfw discovering the start with a staff saber glitch
Beat the game with a staff saber Jaden, skip everything, immediately start a new game, and when it comes time to make Jaden, DON'T fuck with the saber, just continue onward. It lets you have your staff back.
>>261505153
You'll have to excuse my friend, he hasn't played video games after 2000.
Dark Souls combat would be terrible for a Jedi game. It's too damn slow. You want fast combat with lots of movement. Dark Souls distinctly lacks that, and that's part of why it's good. It forces you to commit to actions and plan them out.
But a good Jedi game would be about fast twitch-based combat.
Nevermind that the Jedi are the least interesting part of Star Wars. The space western backwater shithole lowlife thugs are much more interesting and imaginative then magic space samurai.
Anyone who would prefer dark souls combat has no fucking clue how JKA combat actually worked, and probably got by, by killing retarded npcs with special attacks. Jedi outcast/academy is about as good as melee combat has ever gotten in video games.
And this is coming from a guy who went on a fucking quest to find a game that could beat it, including getting into fighting games. I like fighting games but JK is still on top.
>>261506010
I bet you'd call quake style strafe jumpingor whatever you want to call itbad too.
>>261509367
He's def strafejumping
>swing lightsaber
>waggle your mouse like a retard when it connects with something
>anything touching it dies in one hit
People who were hardcore about JK combat wouldn't have any nostalgia about it. Once you had the realization that waggling caused more damage the combat slipped downhill.
Your eyes were opened and you realized the skill ceiling you were aiming for all along was 1 foot above your head the entire time.
JO and JK were fun games, but the fun wasn't in the combat with the waggling "high skill" players, it was with the teamwork and the community and the people who didn't know the optimal way to play and just had fun.
That's not to say everyone who knew about waggling was an anti-fun faggot, but in competitive games you know how it is. For every good person there were 5 who would stomp every noob in until they were alone in the server.
>>261512441
>Nevermind that the Jedi are the least interesting part of Star Wars
I disagree. The Jedi aregreat in small doses.It's when you saturate the setting with them that they lose their glamor.
Dark Souls combat is shit
>>261513487
I fucking love that shit. If you don't like animations just use the blue style.
>>261512212
>There's nothing wrong with going green screen
Except, you know... the part where actual people are talking to a green screen instead of other human beings? Humans have these things called language and emotions.
>>261513729
If you wiggle like a crazy person you'll do less damage than just regular swinging. Actually doing it well is difficult. Since you're having to deal with the opponent moving out of the way in ways you wouldn't with a regular swing, and you risk not deflecting the opponents saber as you try to precisely aim.
Next you'll say strafe jumping is bad.
>>261503251
>>261503251
>>261503251
pls guys pls
>>261499004
>Lightsaber battles are quick, lightweight dances
nigga did you even watch the movies
I love the Tartakovsky cartoons too but they're basically DBZ: space wizards edition.
>>261513896
I agree with you on that. In small numbers with mysticism and "backward" ways that no one truly understands except the reclusive Jedi, that's when they're interesting.
>>261514920
He probably thinks there's only 3 star wars movies. It makes perfect sense since they're named I, II, and III, and if kids aren't told that there's more, then they'll just believe that that's all the star wars movies(except the animated one)
>>261514920
I think the Vader v Luke fight at the end of Jedi was my favorite.
>>261514364
Strafe jumping isn't bad.
Designing your game so that waggling inside somebody is the best option is retarded.
It makes sense, but people can't physically move like they do in JK so the 'it makes sense' argument doesn't mean squat.
I cannot understand how you can defend JK lightsabers as good combat. It's the best lightsaber game to date, but it falls flat on it's face once the waggling comes into play.
Because of it the game becomes slow and defensive. Getting hit can get you killed in 1-3 hits, depending on how skilled your opponent's aim is while he waggles.
Look at the videos here >>261503418 and you'll see why I don't look back on that as a fun and enjoyable experience.
The people move around a lot, but nothing actually happens for the most part. On the surface it might look cool but in reality it's boring and doesn't look cool at all.
Every time somebody swings they waggle for that split second when they think their saber might pass through the opponent. Only horizontal swings. Vertical is useless due to the waggling that makes connecting hits more important than aiming at a correct place for a deadly blow.
Usually a game is designed so high level play allows freedom of choice, but JK was the exact opposite - high level player was behind a simple barrier of knowledge and the skill involved was at best half of what was left.
>>261515989
>The people move around a lot, but nothing actually happens for the most part. On the surface it might look cool but in reality it's boring and doesn't look cool at all.
So its the perfect representation of the prequel lightsaber fights.
![photo7[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zOIURqg.jpg "photo7[1].jpg")
>>261493802
You probably want something like this, OP.
http://www.moviebattles.com/
It is a very complex light saber engine. Almost too complex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR2anQYnYcA
>there will never be a hybrid of M+B and Jedi Knight
>you will never be a humble orce sensitive on some backwoods planet who is discovered by a sith lord on a conquest to rule the galaxy
>you will never prove yourself as your apprentice as you follow him on his galactic campaign
> you will never usurp him and conquer the galaxy for yourself
>tfw there are tons of other hypothetical scenarios I can never play out because this game will never be
>>261493802
/r/ .gif of Anakin fighting the Padawans.
>>261517029
>padawans
they're younglings you fucking fuck
>>261517465
THE YOUNGLINGS, ANAKIN.
>>261517465
Can I just get the webm, please?
>>261518543
only if we get a vocaroo of you yelling "YOUNGLINGS"
>>261499389
This is so sad.
I play DS and enjoy it but why would any sane person suggest it's combat be any good compared to the awesome jedi knight combat?
>>261515989
I can't respond to that post because I can't fucking figure out what you're saying
>high level player was behind a simple barrier of knowledge and the skill involved was at best half of what was left.
I mean seriously, what?
>>261518543
not the same thing but its close
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAQab-Ib8d8
>>261517029
>>261507831
>>261508206
>>261508305
>>261508504
>>261509218
>judging the game without actually knowing how it works.
>>261511826
It's the exact same movement and swing animations.
>>261493802
OP I hate you for making me want this. Goddamn it would be wonderful.
>>261521046
>Bouncing around missing each other for 10 minutes
Seems complex.
>>261520242
Thank you so much!
>>261521451
How would that imply it couldn't be?
>with dark souls combat
iframes and meatshield bosses?
>>261521451
>I don't know what I'm talking about.
You can do it with Dark Souls, too.
>Oh my god you just roll around for 10 minutes and then backstab. Seems real fucking complex.
>>261522134
You should've posted that
>DaS_Combat.gif
>>261522323
If I had it I would have. Oh well, lost opportunity.
>>261522134
As the guy defending JK combat, please know that this person does not represent me.
I dont know if anyone played MP of this awesome game, but i had best MP experience ever on this. Combat is much deeper than it looks in MP, so many tricks, and it required skill. I really miss it.
Lightsaber combat in video games should be more like Episode III Anakin vs. Obi-Wan, not Episode IV Vader vs. Old Ben.
I'm fine with there being slow and powerful stances but Souls combat never felt as fluid as Jedi Knight combat.
Why do Soulsfags hold the combat of the series as the top echelon of gameplay that's 'weighted', meaty, precise, and amazing?
I mean, it's okay. But I don't think it's the best thing ever.
>Wanting the slow, clunky Dark Souls combat in Jedi Knight
Lightsabers are not heavy, why the fuck would you want that cumbersome combat in Jedi Knight, are you retarded?
Of course, that's not to mention that Dark Souls has worse combat than Monster Hunter, which is what it's trying to emulate.
>>261522463
I'm still right. JK combat is better, but that's not to say Dark Souls gameplay is worse.
I'm just making fun of the guy for talking about a game he hasn't played, and making (in my opinion) a fairly equivalent comparison. Both games look incredibly simple if you haven't actually played them.
I'd would love a Star Wars game with Dark Soul's level of world and character building with Outcast or Academy's saber combat. That'd be neat.
>>261509770
To be fair, when psychics ninjas are wielding super light weight weapons, I would imagine direct attacks against the opponent would leave you open, controlling space while defending is an interesting take on it.
Swords not so much, because you can grab the blade and tackle the user and beat the shit out of them if they try fancy shit.
>>261522552
fond memories of beating the shit out of people with Mon Mothma and an orange lightsaber
>>261522787
Because it is the only game they have ever played outside of movies. Don't you understand that Soulsfags are primarity Sonyggers that have a handful of games most of them being interactive experiences such as The Last of Us and Beyond Two Souls?
>>261523090
But /dsg/ are mainly PCfags.
>>261522921
First thing they should do is redesign the NPC's so singleplayer has the complexity of multiplayer.
>>261522852
gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8 for l8 tail g8 trolling
>>261523071
>not playing as a kel-dor with an orange lightsaber
>>261522787
I really don't know. DS has some interesting aspects, but other melee-combat games like Chivalry, JK and M&B all have much more depth.
>>261522852
dark souls has the most complex sword combat in vidya
>>261493802
>there will never be a dark souls game with jedi knight combat
That sounds much better.
>>261523923
>3 levels from the end
>desann tier enemies become regular mooks
>>261514341
>thinks green screen replaces actors
What are you even talking about?
>>261521046
>>261522134
I haven't played either game but I'm just saying from a spectator view the game looks retarded as fuck. Bounce around doing nothing until someone fucks up and gets hit, sounds real hardcore. You can wiggle your mouse around in call of duty and get kills too.
>>261524640
Which is why I'm making fun of you. You have not played the game, but are going to talk shit. Any game can look like that if you don't know what you're talking about.
How about you go play the game and then come back and say it's retarded.You'd still be wrong. : )
>>261524640
Because a good hit can do stupid amounts of damage, so the game ends up being based around your ability to maneuver. Think about how hard it is to get at hit in on someone, when the only way to do it is to get in range of their attack and hit you back.
It's the mechanical skill of an fps with the mindgames of a fighting game.
>>261509741
Mah Nigga. There's a reason almost all servers in Jedi academy use ja+(damage models akin to Jedi outcast).
>>261510051
Mah neger.
I played the shit out of FT when it first came out, I was like 11. Took me ages to find the cave fish hideout.
MFW Full Throttle will never return.
"EVERYTIME I SMELL ASPHALT, I THINK OF MAUREEN"
>>261493802
That sounds fucking horrible. Fuck off darksoul butt-taker.
>>261525581
Because when it came out it was one of the best admin mods. The stuff that actually made it "like jko" was godawful.
Base JKA > JKO > JA+ SP damages > JA+ MP damages
>>261526170
No. Base ja was reliant to much on dragging your attacks. This lead to one to many one hit kills with red. Also blocks/reflects werent working right in base.
>>261526568
>Also blocks/reflects werent working right in base.
In 1.00
Although I suppose it's not entirely base, it's those duel mod damages which are basically base, but with lower rates.
I always felt like the footsmanship never matched the swordsmanship. Like Kyle would do these swings and stuff while just jogging forward. Other than that the combat was fucking amazing and op is a faggot.
>>261526818
Some people prefer base and that's OK but I didn't like how quickly duels ended.
>>261520242
What's the source for that?
>>261493802
Thank god.
>>261526942
It doesn't make any sense but it makes the game so much better.
>>261500230
all the movies were great. kill yourself you shitlord.
>>261493802
you people are worse then horsefuckers
Force grip is the best power
There is nothing like playing mp and just casuallu throwing other people into deadly pits before they get a chance to swing at you
>>261527341
1-3 were shit ewan was the only one worth a fuck
Shit now I'm going to have to go find my Best of PC case
>yfw getting it as a kid
FIVE GAMES AND A FREE TRIAL OF MOTHERFUCKING STAR WARS GALAXIES
>>261527007
Hence why duel servers lowered the damages. That way only the absolute perfect hits could 1 hit kill.
>>261511985
Lucas isn't the best source for Star Wars because he doesn't own it anymore. The only people who know how shit works now are at Disney.
>>261527564
>best of pc
It doesn't fucking lie
Ya know, before Yoda shows up this is one of the best fights in the movies. Its quick, decisive, doesn't have all the flippy dippy nonsense that the prequels are known for and its not stilted like a lot of the OG trilogy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvnwLLXHabg
>>261502893
>Star Wars
>Dragon's Dogma style
>Sith Lord is the Dragon
anon pls, my heart
>>261493802
>Wanting to replace Jedi Knight with Dark Souls combat.
You mean the other way around right? I like dark souls as well, but fuck no.
>>261509892
Most swords involve weightless blades of light, really? SHEET
Your changing my world view anon!
>>261528583
He's talking more deliberate, careful and slow. Both parties being careful to both keep their guard up while pressing their advantage, not flailing and flipping like retards.
>>261527965
man AoT had shit animation.
>>261502303
Well you fucking fa....
>deader than my sex life.
You cheeky bastard.
>>261528865
The point is, anon said something retarded. As did you just now when you implied magical space monks, one of whom is a cyborg, operate on anything resembling real world physics and weren't simply limited by what technology could do at the time.
>>261493802
Are any of you fuckers playing the open source version?
If you could fix anything about the JO/JA combat, what would it be?
