Let's play a game, /v/.
Assume this roster is real. With what we have:
Step 1: Go through the roster, and for every character introduced in Smash Bros 64 that you like or are okay with, add 1 point.
Step 2: For every character added in Smash Bros 64 that you do not like, subtract 1 point.
Step 3: For every character added in Smash Bros Melee that you like or are okay with, add 2 points.
Step 4: For every character added in Smash Bros Melee that you do not like, subtract 2 points.
Step 5: For every character added in Smash Bros Brawl that you like or are okay with, add 3 points.
Step 6: For every character added in Smash Bros Brawl that you do not like, subtract 3 points.
Step 7: For every newcomer that you like or are okay with, add 4 points.
Step 8: For every newcomer you do not like, subtract 4 points.
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Then,
Step 9: For up to 6 characters that you are very excited about returning or being introduced in the game, add 3 points for each (18 points possible).
Step 10: For up to 6 characters that you wished didn't return or you wish weren't newcomers, subtract 3 points each (-18 points possible.)
Step 11: For up to 3 characters that you wished had made it into the game but didn't, subtract 1 point for each character (-3 points possible.)
Step 12: Find the sum of your points.
Maximum points possible: 143
Minimum points possible: -146
Let's see if we can find an average.
143 - ROB (-3)
140
64 points.
Not too great.
>>260712805
Oh wait, that's kinda like saying 210/289.
That's a 72% approval.
84.
Fuck this game.
>>260714904
that's 84/143, that's pretty good.
>>260715273
No it isn't.
101
117
Fuck lucario. Could do without greninja. Hope the clones didn't take much dev time. Everything else is great.
66
Apparently I'm bitter about this, and I only really dislike the clones
65
fucking dark pit/lucinaill miss my wolf and lucas
74
107.
Overall I'm okay with it.
>>260717128
116
Sonic, Pac-Man, Mega Man, and Duck Hunt Dog make up for every possible problem I could have with the roster, tenfold
101
Hyped for Duck Hunt Dog and Bowser Jr.
>>260711270
12+0+18-2+33-6+52-8+18-15-2
=100
>>260711270
120
i'm more okay with this than i thought i was
122
I really like this roster expect for Dr. Mario and Dark pit. They could have been alt. skins but no, let make them there own character.
>>260714904
That's (84+146)/289, so roughly 79%.
>>260711270
137
Not okay with Dr. Mario being back though I didn't mind him in melee and Edgy Pit
>>260722852
>implying you can quantify how someone feels about a game by attaching a completely arbitrary value to it
>>260722852
Well that 21% means a lot to me.
94
I really don't want Dr, Pitto, or Femarth.
Pacman, Megaman, Shulk, Little Mac, and Robin can only cause so much hype. These are good ass characters but the clones kill it for me so much.
129
>92
Huh.
143
I'm pretty hype for the new game
112 Not bad
This roster is pretty good other than Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, Lucina, and Bowser Jr.
Little Mac, Pacman, and Megaman are hype as fuck.
Ice Climbers, Wolf, and Snake will be missed.
>>260711270
2much effort
>implying I'm supposed to remember which characters were added in which game
c'mon op
So why do Melee and Brawl have more points assigned to them?
>>260711270
52
Shhhhieeett
>>260728629
63
Sounds low, but taking into account that the actual total points here are 289, that's basically 72% approval. Dark Pit, Lucina and Dr. Mario really fucked it over though - if they weren't weighing down the average it would have been higher.
113.
I hate Dark Pit and Dr. Mario, but I'm fine with almost everybody else, even Lucina.I never liked R.O.B.
74
And I was harsh counting every clone as a disliked character, even though I don't really hate any character in SSB,beside Diddy Kong, fuck that little shit.
87. I feel like that's pretty damn good out of the 286 point margin.
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>>260732069
289, actually. Oops.
95
Only characters I don't like on this roster are Lucario, Villager, Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, and Sonic.
I got 122.
Was fine with all of the 64 characters.
Was not fine with Pichu, Dr. Mario, Roy, Falco, and Young Link.
Was fine with all of the Brawl cast except Wolf.
Am fine with all of the Smash 4 cast except Lucina, Dark Pit, and Dr. Mario.
As for who I wanted but didn't get, Dixie Kong.
Just Dixie Kong.
We got Pacman, Megaman, and Sonic, but I couldn't get Dixie Kong.
But I also wanted Bowser Jr., so I am stuck between disappointed and happy.
>>260725567
>not remembering easy shit like this
gtfo
I feel like the top six most unique newcomers revealed so far are: Villager, Rosalina, Little Mac, Palutena, Robin, and Shulk.
Especially Robin and Shulk's playstyles, which pretty much tell they are extremely balanced.
Both of them come with advantages that lead them to disadvantages when used.
Like with Robin, when he runs out of the good weapons, he has to rely on the weak ones, which is the enemy's chance to get him killed.
Or how all of Shulk's monado modes give him one stat upgrade, while weakening another one.
>>260732793
I feel you, man.
It feels like the roster is super lackluster to me right now SIMPLY BECAUSE DIXIE AND RIDLEY ARE NOT IN.
I don't care if they'd be clones, I want them for the sake of wanting them. And I want new DK stages.
Damnit, Sakurai, please, I've been riding your hype train since 2012, every day I have been scouring /v/ for leaks, info, discussions, please give me this one last thing to truly think Smash 4 will be my GOAT. ;__;
>>260733745
I'll give you Robin, but Shulk? Yeah, on paper it sounds great but come on, we both know that everyone will just use higher knockdown or higher damage.
>>260711270
I was fine with all the 64 characters, didn't really care about jigglypuff but whatever.
Pichu, Young Link, Roy, Falco and Dr Mario were shit.
All the brawl newcomers were good except for toon link, fuck him.
In this game everything is going to shit, Lucina, Dark Pit, Dr Mario, Miis, Wii Fit Trainer, they can all suck my dick.
Robin, Palutena and Mac look great, but Palutena's custom move bullshit pisses me off, fucking Samurai.
Fuck Dr Mario, Fuck Dark Pit, Fuck Miis.
Where's Ridley, where's Isaac, where's Andy? Just off the top of my head i can think of more characters that should be in.
The sum of my points is -10, 000/3, 000, 000, 000
103, 72% OK.
echoing the why on dr.mario and dark pit, want snake back in. generally I'm OK with the roster.
115
I liked or was okay with everyone but Dark Pit
124
I'm generally okay with most characters as a whole. Some of them I just don't liked/felt like they were tacked on (Captain Falcon, Ice Climbers, Lucario/Snake and Wii Fit Trainer in their respective debuts).
>>260711270
146.
>>260711270
>Assume this roster is real.
How the fuck do you people think it isn't real?
It's been proven countless time, Shulk being the final straw, he even uses the same fucking attacks from the leak. It's fucking over.
>>260711270
How are we supposed to count transformations for this?
Like, Zelda/Sheik in Melee and Brawl, or the Pokemon Trainer, would they be one character or more? I generally count them a two myself but I don't know how this system is doing it.
>>260734761
>Lucina, Dark Pit
Okay fine.
>Dr. Mario
Starting to lose me here, Doc plays way better than Mario, doesn't have FLUDD, has better aerials, pills are much better for tossing than fireballs, and lightning-palm is cooler than fire-palm.
>Miis
You hate custom-characters with changable gear and three different styles of fighting each with their own customizable moves? Yeah okay.
>Wii Fit Trainer
Are you some kind of autistic that doesn't like fun or someth--
>Where's Ridley
Oh, question answered.
I loved Dr Mario in Melee, but I don't get why he is back.
Holy hell, I got 55. I guess I never realized how much I hated all the stupid ass characters introduced in Brawl. Here's my breakdown:
64:
+ 1 Falcon
+ 1 DK
+ 1 Mario
+ 1 Luigi
+ 1 Fox
+ 1 Kirby
+ 1 Link
+ 1 Pikachu
+ 1 Samus
+ 1 Yoshi
- 1 Jigglypuff
- 1 Ness
Total: 10
Melee:
+ 2 Zelda
+ 2 Sheik
+ 2 Peach
+ 2 Game & Watch
+ 2 Marth
+ 2 Ganondorf
+ 2 Falco
+ 2 Bowser
+ 2 Dr. Mario
- 2 Roy
Total: 26
Brawl:
+ 3 Zero Suit Samus
+ 3 Wario
+ 3 Toon Link
+ 3 Pikmin & Olimar
+ 3 Meta Knight
+ 3 King Dedede
+ 3 Diddy Kong
+ 3 Charizard
- 3 Ike
- 3 Lucario
- 3 Sonic
- 3 R.O.B
- 3 Pit
Total: 35
Wii U:
+ 4 Wii Fit Trainer
+ 4 Villager
+ 4 Shulk
+ 4 Rosalina & Luma
+ 4 Pac-Man
+ 4 Mega Man
+ 4 Little Mac
+ 4 Greninja
+ 4 Duck Hunt Dog
+ 4 Bowser Jr.
- 4 Dark Pit
- 4 Lucina
- 4 Robin
- 4 Palutena
- 4 Mii Fighters
Total: 55
Extremely Excited For:
+ 3 Game & Watch
+ 3 Wii Fit Trainer
+ 3 Pac-Man
+ 3 Duck Hunt Dog
+ 3 Samus
+ 3 Captain Falcon
Total: 73
Wished they weren't in:
- 3 Dark Pit
- 3 Robin
- 3 Lucina
- 3 Lucario (Fucking furries)
- 3 R.O.B.
Total: 58
Wished they made it into the game:
- 1 Mewtwo
- 1 Ice Climbers
- 1 Waddle Dee (A man can dream)
Total: 55
>>260738063
First of all, you have no idea how Dr Mario is going to play, for all you know he still has the Fludd and his aerials are the same. Secondly, Mario shouldn't have the fucking fludd to begin with and he shouldn't be shit.
Miis are shit because it's like a billion fucking movesets wasted in them. Not only are there 3 different miis, but each mii has million possible combinations, unlike with clones that means they really did take the development time that could've been used on actual characters. If the miis had 1 moveset that'd be fine, instead it's fucking 3.
And yes, i do like custom characters, but i don't like miis. The reason custom characters are cool in other fighting games like soul calibur is because you can actually make custom characters, in here you dress up miis, not only that but in games like soul calibur you already have pretty much all the characters from soul calibur available, so the custom characters are a bonus. That's no the case here because Nintendo has six billion characters that could still be used.
And don't fucking tell me that the WiiFit trainer is fun, fuck you, fuck the wiifit trainer, she's a generic human with yoga attacks, might as well play as john smith, the man who kicks and punches. His taunt would be checking his ipad. You like her? That's fine, i don't.
And your stupid meme about muh ridley can suck a dick, i can give you dozens of other characters that should also be in smash. How about Dixie Kong, K Rool, Chibi Robo, Ray, Saki, Dark Samus, Mach Rider, Takamaru, Paper Mario, Daisy, Waluigi, Kamek, Toad, how about giving a unique moveset to fucking ganondorf, where's black shadow? why did lucas and wolf get cut? Where's mewtwo? Why is Toon Link a clone? Why is Falco a clone? WHY ARE THERE SO MANY CLONES? And that's just off the top of my head.
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
>>260740365
First of all let me preface this by saying I'm not the guy you're replying to.
Are you 15? I'm genuinely curious because you're throwing a tantrum over a fucking video game.
>>260741423
No, i'm32
If anything, i'd ask you if YOU are a kid, just taking shit in your face with a smile instead of demanding better. And no, it isn't "entitlement" to demand better things from developers.
And it isn't a tantrum either to complain about the faults of the game and some fucking retard getting his panties in a bunch because someone has a different opinion than him.
>>260711270
58
They chose to scrap the wrong veterans
47. The weird part is that I'm more than satisfied with the roster, few characters have my direct antipathy.
>>260739676
>Lucario (Fucking furries)
Yep. As much as Lucario fans yell and scream that they totally aren't furries, there never seems to be a shortage of porn out there.
>>260742413
>32
>still playing vidya
>>260740365
>>260711270
48.
>>260711270
101
>>260711270
143
Feels pretty good.
>>260711270
142 barely missed a perfect. Maybe next time.
82
12 + 18 + 21 + 40 + 3 - 1 = 93
Funny, I guess I hated the roster a lot more than I thought I did.Guess which characters I hated.
>>260734043
Do we know how his recovery is without the jump buffs? It could be pretty bad, especially if those are the stats that get nerfed while the damage modes are active, which I imagine they would be.
>>260747175
Fuck, I forgot Miis, that brings it up to 97.
>>260711270
-4
yeah, no shit
>>260739676
>Hating ROB
Fucking kill yourself.
>>260711270
105
Fuck me, I guess I AM the only one who wanted Lucina in the game.
>>260739676
I'll use this post to make it easier for myself. Also bro you forgot Wolf, Snake, Lucas, Young Link and Pichu.
64:
+ 1 Falcon
+ 1 DK
+ 1 Mario
+ 1 Luigi
+ 1 Fox
+ 1 Kirby
+ 1 Link
+ 1 Pikachu
+ 1 Samus
+ 1 Yoshi
+ 1 Jigglypuff
+ 1 Ness
Total: 12
Melee:
+ 2 Zelda
+ 2 Sheik
+ 2 Peach
+ 2 Game & Watch
+ 2 Marth
+ 2 Bowser
- 2 Ganondorf
- 2 Falco
- 2 Young Link
- 2 Dr. Mario
- 2 Roy
- 2 Pichu
Total: 12
Brawl:
+ 3 Zero Suit Samus
+ 3 Wario
+ 3 Toon Link
+ 3 Pikmin & Olimar
+ 3 Meta Knight
+ 3 King Dedede
+ 3 Diddy Kong
+ 3 Squirtle
+ 3 Ivysaur
+ 3 Charizard
+ 3 Ike
+ 3 Lucario
+ 3 Sonic
+ 3 R.O.B
+ 3 Pit
+ 3 Wolf
+ 3 Lucas
+ 3 Snake
Total: 63
Wii U:
+ 4 Wii Fit Trainer
+ 4 Villager
+ 4 Shulk
+ 4 Rosalina & Luma
+ 4 Pac-Man
+ 4 Mega Man
+ 4 Little Mac
+ 4 Duck Hunt Dog
+ 4 Bowser Jr.
+ 4 Lucina
+ 4 Robin
+ 4 Palutena
+ 4 Mii Fighters
- 4 Dark Pit
- 4 Greninja
Total: 111
Extremely Excited For:
+ 3 Rosalina & Luma
+ 3 Shulk
+ 3 Pac-Man
+ 3 Mega Man
+ 3 Robin
+ 3 Little Mac
Total: 129
Wished they weren't in:
Eh, nobody I'd really want to kick out.
Total: 129
Wished they made it into the game:
- 1 Wolf
- 1 Ice Climbers
- 1 Snake
Total: 126
