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Hey everyone, I'm sure everyone on the fucking planet knows about the smash bros leak, and I know someone who has access to the game and sent me this. I know it sounds vague as hell, but with all the shit going down, I don't want anyone losing their job over this. Also, sorry for the quality, I'm just posting what was sent to me. If I get anything else(or anything of better quality) I'll be sure to post it here. Believe this or don't, I just wanted to get this out there.
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i don't want to be THAT GUY but the wolf portrait looks like it came straight from brawl

also the dixie and mewtwo portraits are kind of ugly too.
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Not bad
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>>260389474
To be fair, so does Falco.
Still not buying it though, Dixie does look kinda weird.
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Is that Impa? There was a leak yesterday showing max KOs and had that Wolf and an Impa head too.

Nothing on Ridley, Dixie or Chorus Men though.

>no Mach Rider
;_;

>>260389474
Naw, Brawl Wolf's mohawk is thinner.
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>>260389474
The Wolf from Brawl's roster is facing to the side.
I agree about Dixie and Mewtwo though. Dixie especially looks jacked up something fierce.
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>>260389721
Yeah, Dixie looks like her Tropical Freeze render with Diddy's Smash Bros. render's mouth copied onto it.
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I can't find the ridley or Dixie renders holy shit...guys?!
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I'd like to find a leaked smash roster that isn't under a blur filter.
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Hey guys my dad is soccer guy and i can play the game early look at
>pic related
its the final roster.
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Okay so it's blurry as fuck but where's the tilt?
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Dixie is straight out of some promo art.
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>Ice climbers removed because "Double characters would be too complicated in smash run" or some shit
>Choir boys come in as a triple character
I mean I'm really happy that they might get in if the leak is real but I'm still not over ice climbers getting the boot
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>>260390092
no tilt, confirmed real
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>>260389964
You're joking right? Looks like he just flipped diddys model for Dixie and just added shit to her
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Looks actually legit.
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>>260389760
Ah here we go.

Would be nice if we could get a better look at the Impa render on this CSS.
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>>260389224
> Ridley

Fake.
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Looks good, except for the Dr. Mario and Jigglypuff portraits looking exactly like the ones from the recreation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVf-r2gZlDk
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>>260390385
Wasn't this debunked by basic math?
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>>260390620
No because you can scroll the pages to see the other fighters, otherwise the roster of fighters would be incredibly small, anon.
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Them chorus boys
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>>260389224
>No Lucas, even in fake leaks
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Where's Bowser Jr???

FAKE
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>>260390580
Jiggly looks bit different, but Dr.Mario yeah.
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i had a dream last night where i watched a smash trailer revealing zero from the zero escape series

that means it has to be real, right?
right?
why me
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>>260389224
Has /v/ really become dumb enough to believe any blurry tilted picture posted now because that one leak ended up being real?

Ridley aint going to be there, sorry
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>>260390021
>final roster
But there are clearly two spaces below Falco and Young Link, maybe there's still two characters?
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Fuck /v/ and fuck these leaks.
You telling me that you add three Chours Men but remove two Ice Climbers?
What the fuck?
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>>260390812
I meant Lucario's adds up to 34 when it says he has 33 total.
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Idiot, the full roster looks like this.
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>>260390812
Yes you fucking moron but look at lucario ko number for all the fight kos he's had. It says 33 when on that page alone he has 34 when added up
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>>260390250
If it is, I'd be surprised because it's too weird looking to even be palatable for promos.
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>>260390812
The number in Lucario's KO total is 33. The numbers in the row add up to 34.
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>>260389224
Looks believable actually.
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>>260391131
>>260391228
>>260391239
>games never have bugs

inb4 DAMAGE CONTROL
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>>260390812

I think he was talking more about the KO values being more than the total figures on the same image.
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Whats under the cursor? Could that be baby bowwow?
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Guys I just got the latest leak
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>>260391216
Oh, shit!
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>>260391216
fukuck u
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>>260390021
>that gap between Mario and Luigi
>all that misalignment
top fucking LEL
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>>260389224
SO fake.

Just wait half a month god damn. Leak threads are getting annoying.
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>>260391216
I can't wait to play as Glare!
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>>260391613
Mitch master race, reporting in
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>>260389224

>No Krystal

HAHAHAHA KRYSTALFAGS BTFO

B
T
F
O

But really, I'm glad that piece of shit didn't get in. I wonder how Krystalfags are handling this anal devastation.

On the plus side, FUCK YES Jigglypuff is back! I'm glad Sakurai kept him/her/it in. But was there any real doubt it would be removed? Hopefully it will encompass some new Fairy type moves.
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>>260391491
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>>260389224
>ice climbers still cut
>Chorus Men, not just marshal
yeah no.
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>>260391613
>>260392016
>Not maining Butch

Seriously, it's almost as if /v/ was full of fags or something.
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>>260391613
>doesn't even have him

dropped
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>>260389224
This is just fucking in.
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Every time I see one of these photo leaks, I can't help but imagine the one who took it get all surprised about finally seeing the roster and then goes "I HAVE TO SHOW THIS TO EVERYONE" while casually stuffing a potato in the camera's lens and pointing a flashlight into the screen and proceed to take the photo.
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>>260392294
You're the fag for maining butch
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Any leak with Ridley as playable is instantly fake as fuck. It's not even a funny joke, he isn't and never will be playable.
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>>260390280
>>Ice climbers removed because "Double characters would be too complicated in smash run" or some shit

i wish that was even a good reason

look at fucking rosalina and luma
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>>260389224
Damn it OP why.
Tell your friend he is an unprofessional asshole.
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If all the extra, questionable information pertaining to the leak ends up being true, this is by far the worst smash roster, and perhaps even the worst roster ever made for a fighting game.
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>>260392294
>Butch
Prfffff it's like you like to lose
Blossom Z master race here
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That Mewtwo render is HORRIBLE
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I wish I could say I'm happy we only have two more weeks of this shit, but those fakers will move on to blurry shots of dlc next.
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Well lets see here.

>Mewtwo
Decent render. Not half bad. Could be real.

>Chorus Kids
Also rather decent. I was expecting something along the lines of super ugly and fake as hell. They have the power to make those kinds of faces.

>Wolf
Yeah, looking at the google images now. LOTS of these have him with his head close to that position. No wait, I found a couple that look EXACTLY like the roster pic. Yeah, no buying it sorry. Sucks too, cause I was a Wolf main.

>Dixie Kong
Decent. Some notable aspects I have found. Every image I have found of her head in that direction has her with the yellow side bangs highly visable. I am looking very VERY closely at the roster pic, and I am not seeing the yellow bangs, which means this model is some kind of hybrid of the Tropical Freeze model, and the DKC2 model. Which makes it pretty believable for me.

Now for what I find is arguably close to the WORST ones of these five, with obvious fake Wolf doing better.
>Ridley
Before I begin, I just want to say I would be 100% fine if all of this turned out true. I really really would, so no holding anything against me ok? Ok.

Its terrible. For one, people need to keep in mind that on google, Ridley renders are so plentiful because so many people make them hoping for him to get into smash. Him having his mouth gaping open like that just doesn't look like the fierce determined Ridley you would expect. Also, there is usually something that sets the real renders completely apart form the others. Its usually the render can't even be found with the head in a similar position, or the render is previous iterations combined or something. It just isn't that good of a Ridley to me.

Let me repeat, I would be 100% fine if all of this was true, but I just don't believe the Wolf and Ridley renders.
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>>260389224
>Link with sunglasses in the upperleft next to mario

what the fuck is this?
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>>260390949
We're bored and it helps keep us away from the stupid Zoe Quinn and Anita shit.
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>>260392598
>using weebshit

You're even worse
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remove wolf and thats the roster

trust me
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>>260391613
>Clones fucking everywhere
Just terrible.
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>>260392392
I love you
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>>260391613
>No Him.
Fake.
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>>260392581
This thing if real means another Zelda, DK and Metroid rep. What the fuck are you still complaining about?
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>>260392746
That's Luigi.
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>>260391613
> 6 clones of the same character
Absolutelydisgusting.jpg
The rest of the roster makes up for it. Amoeba Boys all day erryday.
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>>260392581
Let me guess, your favorite character didn't get in so you don't like it.

Get off your high horse and realize that this is the most diverse set of newcomers by far.
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>>260392943
not blurry or tilted enough
heres the real roster
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>>260391613
>no Him
>no Femme Fatale
Fake and/or gay.
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>>260393063
Buttercup and Boomer are semiclones tough.
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>>260389224
Isn't this the Wolf render?

>tumblr I got it off of Google
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>>260390385

>Starlow is a copy and paste of her DT artwork when she has a 3D model in the same fucking game

nigga this isn't paper mario
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>>260392967
Dixie Kong will probably be just a clone.
Lucina we know is a clone.
Dark Pit will probably be a clone.
Dr. Mario is guaranteed to be a clone.
Duck Hunt Dog was never asked for and they could have put someone better.
Sakurai played favorites with his own series.
Rosalina is just the thing Nintendo puts into nearly everything.
Bowser Jr is a terrible Mario character.
Shulk is just another anime swordsman.
Wii Fit Trainer was a stupid addition.
Same for Ridley.

>>260393071
>implying diversity=quality
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>>260389224
This blurry ass shit...
Ok I'll bight; whos that next to Yoshi? Rosilina?
Who's next to Shiek?

>Falco still in
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>>260389224
>four Fire Emblem characters

Fake.
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>>260393631
Not even close
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>>260393631
Nah, that Wolf Render has a full on white furry mouth.

Looks more like Wolf from SF64.
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>>260393786
>Ok I'll bight; whos that next to Yoshi? Rosilina?
Yes
>Who's next to Shiek?
Toon Link
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>>260393670
I'm not entirely happy with the roster either but with this kind of reasoning you just sound like you hate everything. What kind of character would you even have liked?
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>>260389224
>Yoshi still in the middle of Mario reps

One job.
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>>260392069
Krystal never had a chance to be anything more than a trophy. The only people who thought otherwise are delusional furfags.
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>>260393786

Yeah, it's Rosalina. Ganondorf is next to Shiek.
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>>260389224

Why is Duck Hunt's nose piercing Falco?
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>>260392967
>Zelda
What are you talking about? Falcondorf?

This is a good roster though. i hope its not a fraud
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>>260394034
He's just that important
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>>260393992
Realistic roster choice or unrealistic?
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>>260392392
Five stars.
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>>260392943
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>>260389224
>Dixie

Well, better than nothing, but worse than every other options.
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>>260389224
this would literally elevate the roster to best-case-scenario-tier
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>>260389474
Also, Dixie's portrait came straight from her Tropical Freeze art.
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>>260394226
ridely?
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>>260391813
Epic :^)
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>>260389224
>3 2D Chorus Kids/men
>Other M Ridley (when the original Melee intro would be the one playable if it happens)

Otherwise, not that bad a fake. Though isn't Impa supposed to be in that 'leak'?
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>>260394272
>Krystal
No, it can always be worse
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>>260389224
Whos next to ganondorf, not sheik the other one you fag.
what the fuck is up with Dixie's mouth? Is she autistic?
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>>260394503
>"Epic :^)," the thing that used to be said to Gematsufags and Ridleyfag theory pictures
>now said to people who show how easy it is to make fake roster images

/v/ has truly fallen.
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>>260394359
If it did, then show me the exact render in the exact post.
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>>260394659
Talkin' bout DK reps here, fag rag.
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>>260389224
What's the full list of characters that one actual leakfag said? Did I miss anything new since he posted the random pic with a list of names?
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>>260394681
Toon Link is next to Ganondorf
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>>260390385
BANDANA WADDLE DEE FAGS
T
F
O
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>>260390021
>Four Pokemon reps
>Mr. Literally Who

Nice try
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>>260392465
You mean Rosalina and 5 triangles?
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That's the Tropical Freeze Dixie art with an open mouth added onto it,
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>>260391613
>Himfags BTFO
He's always been too big.
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>>260394272
better than funky at least
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>>260395004
FOR YOU XD
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Can someone please post the webms of bowser jr/shulk/ganon and lucina please?
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>>260389224
you should have copied this wolf and idna leak from recently.
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>>260389224
I'll bait. Who is this left of DK? K. Rool?
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>>260391131
>No because you can scroll the pages to see the other fighters, otherwise the roster of fighters would be incredibly small, anon.

In other words there's a fighter not visible that he has 1 ko on
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>>260391613
>no him
Fake.
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>>260392465
Nah, cause Luma doesn't have it's own AI, it's literally just an extension of Rosalina. Ice Climbers needs Nana to have a separate AI to work, so w/four Ice Climbers the 3DS has to control eight separate programs at once. Compare to Rosalina, which is four programs for eight models.
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>>260389224
I really want to believe
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>>260395083
How the hell does that DS Lite still work?
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>>260394928
Dixie on this and Dixie on the box art are at different angles fag
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I don't know if I should feel sadness or pity for people who spend time to make a believable fake leak but don't have the brain ressources to understand that ridley instantly invalidates their hard work. It'd be like playing poker with a 12 years old, you're glad you win every game but at the same time you miss out on the thrill of the game
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>>260395137
They could have just drastically altered them. Nana could just copy all of the player's inputs and only require an AI to get back to to Popo, just like Pikmin, They made changes to Olimar, Pit, and Bowser, so I can't imagine why they wouldn't make changes in order to get them to work rather than just cutting them.
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>>260394187
Realistic, someone you mean would make sense to include.
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Look at Diddy's mouth.
Now look at Dixie's mouth.

For Dixie, it doesn't even look like a mouth.
It looks like someone smeared literal shit over her portrait in a way that it looks like her mouth is open. Dixie is such a obvious shop that it literally destroy's the whole picture's possible credibility it could have had going.

Basically, Dixie kills the picture, Wolf turns it into a zombie, and that horrible looking Ridley kills the zombie.
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>>260395187
All operations are done on the bottom screen.

All hardware (excluding the top screen) is on the bottom half.

Why not?
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>>260390860
>ROB in all obvious fakes and supposed legit leaks
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>>260395074
2
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>>260395362
Fox is so shit in Sm4sh. Played at best buy and holy fuck he has no KO power any more.
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>>260395126
How does it feel to be stupid?
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Even if all these character leaks are fake, I can at least say how I hate how bland and plain the 3DS select screen is.
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>>260395095
mr game & watch
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>>260395362
>32% KO'ed by a recovery attack
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>>260395362
...What the fuck

That's fucked up. And they fully intend to keep this in the game, don't they?
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Why do some of these fakes always use Brawl Ridley? I know no one WANTS Other M Ridley but if he got in, that would undoubtedly be the design they'd use.
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>>260389224
Thanks OP, I believe it but I guess we'll see once the game comes out.
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>>260395074
3
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>>260390280
No was cares about ice climbers, I'm so glad those faggots got the boot
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>>260395362
>32 percent KO
You fucked up, Sakurai.
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>>260395487
I guess I just thought that it still needed the top screen to still even turn on and function. But... that's neat, I suppose.

I guess that technically means you could still play regular DS games, but only with no top screen.
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>>260395614
It's what happens when you want a non-scrolling select screen with >40 characters and on such a small screen.
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>>260395545
holy shit
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>>260389224
>dat wolf
>no impa
>that ridley and dixie render
"i'm from nintendo" leakerfags are getting desperated
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>>260395702
keep what?
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>>260395702
Zelda's been shit since Melee and her new attack is garbage. She at least deserves to have a few viable tools.
And how often are you even going to hit with that recovery move anyway?
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>>260395907
Fox basically being completely fucked over. Who the fuck dies at 32%, and from a recovery move?
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>>260389224
how to do you make a shit quality image like this?
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>>260395992
a light character who is right near the blast zone
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>>260395978
Goddamn.
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>>260395779
I'm going to pretend these are fake because I hate the yoshi's island stage.
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Great job retard, you took the remade icons instead of the actual ones.
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>>260395907
Probably the fact that you can KO a heavy character at 32% with a recovery attack.
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>>260396124
>fox
>heavy
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>>260391421
Games never have bugs that involve a computer failing to perform addition of integers.
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>>260394791
>Kiddy
>Baby DK
>Mario Kart Wii Online
>Candy
>the Jungle Beats
>Xananab
>Those OC Kremlings in Barrel Blast
>Those bear fuckers
>Tikis
>Twintails Dixie
They're all worse options, man.
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>Impa will probably be a Shiek clone
>Dixie will probably be a Diddy clone
>Lucina IS a Marth clone
>Dr. Mario is guaranteed to be a Mario clone
>Dark Pit will probably be a Pit clone
>Fuck even Ridley might be a Charizard clone knowing Sakurai

So much for lowering the amount of clones.

All hype for me is gone.
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>>260390021

If Mewtwo is playable, why is Mewone not playable?
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>Palutena and Kirby in the center

It's legit.
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>>260395978
I see the magnetic edge from Brawl is back at full force.

Bowser wasn't even fucking close to that ledge.

>>260396297
>Why is Mewone not playable?
Because Mewone isn't Nintendo's Lightning.
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So is anyone gonna try to debunk this shit or prance around it and act like a bitch.
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>>260396029
>take image
>open in photoshop
>select Filters > Look Like Shit
>Click "Add pointless glare"
>Click "Add tons of grain"
>Click "Darken everything"
>Select Save as...
>Save under "Legit Sm4sh leak"
>Post to /v/
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>>260396280
Nope.
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>>260395362
>tourneyfags complain about living for too long at high percentages
>Darkrai fixes this by having characters get KO'd at lower percentages, making the game faster
>tourneyfags still bitch and moan
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Smash leaks are like bigfoot now
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It's fake
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>>260391813
>metroid
>not daft punk

we need conan in here
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>>260396291
>Fuck even Ridley might be a Charizard clone knowing Sakurai
his tail looks useful for pinch and sword-like stab attacks
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>>260391613
>No Him
Goddamn
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>>260396476
No one gives a fuck anymore. Everyone is in the acceptance stage.
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>>260390385
>How many times has Pikachu made Zelda KO?
shitty and fake
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>>260395362
The teleport is kinda a shit to aim, so if its a super powerfull attack im ok with it.
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>>260396550
>wow the icons look like a replica of what we know the icons look like
>therefore it must be fake
got anything else?
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>>260396550
no duh, the wolf render looks like shit and the ridley/mewtwo render is too obvious.
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>>260396579
Oh enough with the tail autism, I've heard enough of it ever since the Ridleyfags came back.
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>>260395978
Shit like this is why people hate Brawl, it makes everything too easy for babby. If shit like that comes back in 4 I might lose some hope, that's just disgusting...Theres no "ITS IN DEVELOPMENT T_T" excuse at this point either because its getting near release.
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>>260396632
these additional characters would make me go from disappointed acceptance to satisfied acceptance though
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>>260396781
Actually, the icons in this supposed leak look like the recreated icons, as seen in >>260390580

They should look more like the icons in the actual leak, shouldn't they?
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>>260395701
>>260395702
>>260395816

Why complain? The alternative is everyone living past 100%, which is one of the many reasons that Brawl was so hit competitively.
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>yfw next smash game only adds baby mario baby luigi and baby peach
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>>260396975
Too low isn't any better than too high, anon.
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>>260396937
they look like the recreations of the actual icons

which means they look like the actual icons
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>>260395992
>muh fox

Good riddance.
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>>260396847
geez, sorry, i didn't know you want too hear anything Ridley. You should of let me know beforehand.
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>>260396550
>using the photo that was photoshop someone made of the roster to prove a point that a roster was fake as evidence that another roster is fake
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>>260396923
Cool blog.
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>>260397119

Considering this is only one, hard to land recovery move on a notoriously shit character? I don't agree.
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>>260397157
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Why the fuck is Game and watch next to DK, he should be right in front if ROB and Duck hunt dog
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>>260390280
>>Ice climbers removed because "Double characters would be too complicated in smash run" or some shit
>Multi-man is still in the game, with possible coop so that would mean we could still have two rosalinas or two Pikmin&Olimar or two Chorus Kids and still have 5-6 Multi-men on screen
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>>260396492
How the fuck are Xananab and the Tikis and Kiddy Kong and Kalypso not worse than Dixie? How the fuck is the Dixie clone not worse than Dixie?
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>>260397406
Cool deflection m8
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>>260393670
>I'm a massive pessimist and I'm gonna direct my pessimism toward this leak
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You're all fucking stupid
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>>260391613
>Rowdyruff Boys
FUCK YES.
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>>260397514
>still thinking R&L and P&O are the same thing as IC
No comment on Chorus Kids since we haven't seen them in action
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>>260396291
>Fuck even Ridley might be a Charizard clone knowing Sakurai
Charizard is a fucking manlet. I doubt Ridley wouldn't be as big as, say, Giant Pikachu or something, and I also doubt he'd have something even close to Rock Smash. "Knowing Sakurai" is just using Ganondorf, who is the only outlier for clones.
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>>260397978
How are they not the same thing?
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>>260397836
>not liking clones and shit is pessimism
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>>260397157
nigga what
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>>260392368
>Vivian got in along with /v/
>neo-/v/ got in as a stage boss
damn...
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>>260395545
>>260395247
Why are JR.'s physics and Rollout ripped straight off Jigglypuff?
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>>260392943
top ridley
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>>260397927
Are you dumb? Have you seen Greninja's render and his art?
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>>260398154
> hating against original characters isn't pessimism, guise!!!

Nah, you're just a pessimistic fag.
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>>260393631
>tfw no edge 64/OG wolf
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>>260389224
I noticed something. Look at how the clones are at the end of their respective franchise.
If anything this helps solidify that this might have an ounce of truth, since nintendo always pays close attention to minor details.
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>>260398154
>Everything is either clones or shit
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>>260398132
Ice climbers have always been literally 2 different characters at the same time. Both Popo and Nana had different damage%, and could both hold items. And if you get them separated Nana becomes a CPU and goes around and hits shit
Luma just copys what rosalina does, no matter where it is
Pikmin are literally just items that Olimar uses
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>>260398259
Why's Bowser Bomb the same as Yoshi Bomb? And Egg Roll the same as Rollout?
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>>260398204
uh stop.

You are talking about neo-neo-/v/

you ARE neo-/v/
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>>260393992
Not him but I wanted Andy, Krool, another f-zero rep, isaac, chibi robo, and a pikmin clone character

The only one with even the slightest possibility was andy and maybe a pikmin clone, but the roster still pisses me off to no end due to lucina, dark pit, toon link, etc
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>>260398489
>original
>clone
Pick one.
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>>260395487

But the speakers are on the top screen as well. That thing wouldn't have any sound output unless you used headphones.
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>>260394658
>Other M Ridley
That is clearly Ridley's Brawl model. Samus got her Other M design, and unfortunately so would Ridley.
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>>260396550
Fraid I can't let you do that Starfox....
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>>260398132

Luma is a lot less complicated than Nana. Nana actually has an AI. Sure, it'd be fine if there were only one pair of Ice Climbers on the screen, but 4 pairs on Spirit Tracks with Pokeballs would probably kill the framerate.

Basically, an aspect of the game was held back due to the fact that the 3DS can't do something the GCN can do. The 3DS version was an awful idea. The Wii U version probably won't have the Climbers either because MUH VERSION PARITY (even though the Wii U version is more expensive, comes out later and doesn't even have crossplay with the 3DS version)
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Chorus Faggots can stay out of Kerfuffle.
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>>260398885
That's the fucking point though, retard.

I used the recreated one since the leak in OP's image uses fucking images from the recreated one. Can I make it any more obvious?
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>>260395734
b-b-bbut I think melee ridley looks the best and is scaled right
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>>260398801
Quit strawmanning, faggot. You just hate that your pick didn't get in, and if you can't enjoy the roster, you're gonna make damn sure no one else can with your shit opinion. Grow up.
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>>260399219
How the fuck am I strawmanning, gaylord? Are you seriously defending clones, which only exist to pad the roster and are a result from laziness?
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>>260398895
big deal, there are new characters to try
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I would love this roster, I trust Samurai a hundred percent.
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>>260399010
no u
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>>260395126
You mean -1, right?

Unless you're saying you never graduated primary school.
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Fake as shit. Here's the Ridley render.
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>>260395545
I haven't seen a single gameplay video of Sm4sh where the players didn't completely suck. I know those are almost all COMS but still
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>>260399418

Except Sakurai has said before that clones are just there because they're easy fast additions they can bring up at time crunch.

It's not "if we didn't have clones we'd have 5 new characters", it's 5 clones or nothing.
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>>260389224
>pit and dark pit on opposite sides of palutena
i like it
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>>260395734
>Why do some of these fakes always use Brawl Ridley?
>I know no one WANTS Other M Ridley

Well, there's your answer.
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>>260390935
which zero, anon?
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>>260399167
I think your full of shit but alright haha. And yeah you could have. "It's fake" , yeah real descriptive there ya fuckin dunce.
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>>260398748
>whining about clones because it's not the clone you want
For fuck's sake, man. I do think you will get your Pikmin clone character, Alph, as an alternate set of outfits for Olimar, though.
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>>260398642
>Nana's AI causes FPS drop
lol
Also there are few flaws in what you have said.
Once you use the luma shot the luma moves around the stage freely.
Also Pikmin have similar AI to Nana as they still need to regroup with Olimar when they get split up. Pikmin can also pick up items.
The only real problem with the Ice Climbers being in the game is because of her model. Having that many things running at 60 FPS could cause things to stutter.

>>260398895
>Luma is a lot less complicated than Nana. Nana actually has an AI.
>Nana's AI is causing FPS drop
lol
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>>260398895
>3DS version was mistake cuz one lame character got cut

hahahahaahaha
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>>260396975
>ignoring the Zelda living past 100%
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>>260397027
>they're all metal

Don't forget babby rosalina
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>>260399638
>>260395734
it's clearly other m ridley in the op pic tho
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>>260399860
>Pikmin have similar AI to Nana
nigga are you for real
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>>260399729
There is little difference between 5 clones and no new characters because clones play almost exactly like their originals.

Of course, in the new Smash fanbase clones are fine and totally add value to rosters.
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>>260399861
>inferior version on weaker hardware
>not a mistake
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>>260399729
Nothing is better than garbage. If Melee couldn't get away with clones of actual characters, why should this one get away with black recolours?
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>>260400230
I didn't say the same, I said similar.
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>>260399860
The idea is that Nana acts like another player, and double the data used when playing online. The Ice Climbers would cause lag, not FPS drop.
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>>260400120
Could have been me mis seeing it. It is blurry as fuck
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>>260399790
The point is that interesting clones like black shadow or impa are nowhere to be found, while literal reskin #1 and literal reskin #2 from 3 Game Series and Babby's First FE are shitting up the roster
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>>260400326
The clones are just fanservice which is what Smash has been since the start, there's nothing new about that.
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