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Daily reminder.
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>maxresdefault

yeah, when you cut a picture from a youtube video, it's going to look like shit.
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What a fun boss concept

Better than another big guy with a sword at least
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>there are people that ACTUALLY think the DLC will be good
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>>253966103
Holy shit did b-team seriously take three NPCs, slap on boss healthbars and call it a day?

Please tell me there's more to that picture.
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>>253966103
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>>253966103
Meh. I bought the season pass and can't care less. As long as I get more areas to fight I will be fine.
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>>253966103
Dammit From, I play pve to NOT deal with Havel wearing faggots.
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>>253966320
I got it from a thread yesterday. The DLC leaked so there's been a lot of screens posted on /dsg/. Here's 2 NPC summons using entirely equipment that was already in the game.
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>>253966320
Nope

and one of them is literally just Havel
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And here we have what appears to be a nashandra reskin, now with light instead of dark
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>>253966320
>b-team
>a-team
I love how /v/ brainwashed itself with that idea so they can excuse From for shitting the bed with DaS2.
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>implying I wont pirate the dlc
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>>253967080
I'm not excusing anyone. I don't have faith in FromSoft anymore after the Dark Souls 2 blunder and will probably never play another game from them.

I'm merely using the term b-team to make fun of the shitty people at From who were a part of DaS II's creation.
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>>253966959
Ahahahahahaha holy shit.
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>>253966959
She uses Fire and Dark spells, and summons skellies

She also summons Velstadt for some fucking reason
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>tfw how long it took me to figure out which rat to hit

I was looking for a crown on their head or something. Took a few runs to notice that mowhawk.
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>>253967251
Why now? Why not when Armored Core 4 or Another Century Episode R were released?
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>>253967251
Dark Souls 2 wasn't even that bad dude. I liked it alot more than Dark Souls.

Played all 3 and beat all 3.
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>>253967481
Because more people played DaS2?
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>>253967481
Because FromSoft was more known after DeS and DaS. I bet that only a small minority on /v/ has played AC.

>>253967525
I'm genuinly interested to hear why you thought that Dark Souls II was fun, especially since you beat the first one.
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>>253966103
>not even giving them new armor

Based B-team, just rehash that havels armor.
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>>253967525
I liked it too. Even when the level design was weaker compared to the first game I'm enjoying it immensely.
Currently halfway through NG+ with my cestus character.
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>>253967693
To be fair the entirety of Dark Souls fanbase loves that armor. Dark Souls 1 and 2 players wear nothing but that armor.
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>>253966103
>fighting another one of havels minions

Well we ever see the true Rock?
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>>253967080
Don't be retarded. From has multiple dev teams and you can see it quite clearly in the credits that people were being swapped in and out.
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>>253967525
This is /v/, it's either the perfect game or it's completely bad. [gratuitousspoilertag]And it's probably the latter.[/gratuitousspoilertag]

I definitely feel like Dark Souls II wasn't as fun as Dark Souls, but it was still a pretty good game.
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>>253967906
Fuck off, plenty of people hate havels.
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Dark souls is not very good game
Pardon bad English
You are bad human
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>>253967668
Outside the souls games the only From Software titles I've played has been Ninja Blade and the A.C.E games.
Ninja Blade was pure shit. The A.C.E games were fun like a motherfucker.
2>3>1>shit>Portable>R
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>>253966959
BRAVO B TEAM

But seriously holy fuck. I was disappointed enough with DaS2 that I wasn't even going to bother the the DLC. I expected it to be a step down from the god-tier PTD content, but jesus christ this takes the cake.

This is mod tier.
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>>253967481
I enjoyed ACE R, but pretty much for the sole reason that I got to fly around as the based Turn A.
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>>253967972
I will laugh like mad when Bloodborne's credits roll and the names are basically the same as the ones in DSII's credits.
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>people now just realizing From never made good games consistently
From has always been like this they either make games ranging from fun to mediocre or to downright terrible.
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>>253968005
DaS2 is still a great game by normal standards - has a lengthy and solid single player experience and blah blah blah. But by souls standards it pales in comparison to its predecessors.

I never ever grew tired of playing DaS1 and DeS. That's whether focusing on PVE or PVP. But with DaS2 I beat the game and by the time I started NG+ I was already burnt out - haven't touched it in months. It doesn't have that same spark. Not to sound melodramatic, but it's just not the phenomenon that Dark Souls was. It's the typical game that you play once and then move on, whereas the others could be enjoyed for pretty much forever.
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I HOPE WE GET THE BARREL
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>>253967525

I liked 2 better too. Improved the game in a million ways. Imagine if 2 came out before 1 and 1 was the sequel and we lost dual wielding, re spec options and limitations on healing etc? There would be a fucking riot. We'd be having daily threads about how poise reduces all pvp to bs fishing and how fucking unfinished the 2nd half of the game is once you get to Anor Londo.
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>>253966959
>People here actually paid for the season pass for this shit
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Remember DS1 dlc? Good times.
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>>253968529
They're souls babbies. They don't know about King's Field, Armored Core, Echo Night or that piece of shit Eternal Ring.
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>>253968840
Are you retarded? Those people hacked themselves into the DLC.
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ETERNAL REMINDER

B-team strikes again:
>literally just 3 NPCs with big healthbars
>reskinned Nashandra summoning reskinned Velstadt (yes, really)
>reskinned Kalameet

BRAVO FROM
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>>253966103
>>253966959
This can't be real. Holy shit!
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>>253968985
I'm talking about people in general who have bought the season pass for it faggot

This is exactly the problem with them
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>>253966959

I thought /v/ was overreacting but holy shit this is awful.
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>/v/ hates everything Dark Souls 2 related by default because of a graphical reduction

Didn't know you turds were such graphics whores.
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>>253969125
Then don't quote the wrong people asshole.
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>>253968396
Not likely, since the brains behind the other games started work on BB right after artorias of the abyss. It's like how pokemon games are developed and it's why some games don't have features that others had (for instance, toggle run shoes and walking pokemon in HG/SS not being present in B&W)

That said, I am not going to be an idiot and get as hype for bloodborne as I did for DaS2. I'm not going to assume DaS2 was a fluke. After all, we were assured that Miyazaki himself was overseeing the project and making sure it was up to snuff, and clearly that didn't help.
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>>253969254
What you gonna do about it nigga?
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>>253966103
>mfw
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>>253969210
Where have you been? The only thing this and the last gen gamers have ever cared about is graphics.
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>>253969210
No you moron, it's hated because the gameplay is a downgrade from previous games.
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>>253969027
Don't forget that they literally placed their reskinned Kalameet in a tiny enclosed space as a means to justify it flying very little and not being very mobile while you fight it, instead of just being lazy assholes like they were with the Ancient Dragon.
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>>253969482

It's literally exactly the same.
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>>253969482
But it's improved
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>>253969210
>muh pcmaster!
>not graphics whores
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>>253969482
The gameplay is an upgrade (power instance is the shit); the level design and enemies the ones sucking a thousand dicks.
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>>253969548
Not true, it's actually a lot faster and tigher. Heck they even added stats for tanking/dodging.

'Course /v/ just uses this as a reason to bitch.
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>>253967080
>He thinks separate teams don't exist

I love how buttblasted flamers get when they're told.

Bamco told A-team to sit this one out. They were not allowed to be part of the active development, just advisory.

That's why Bloodbourne exists. Because Bamco told A-team to fuck off and let them milk the franchise.
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>>253969679
this this this. I liked the gameplay a hell of a lot more so I was pretty excited when I started the game, but everything in the game felt boring and uninspired.
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>>253966103
I think I would've been more interested if it was 3 existing NPCs, at least in the "how did they get there?" kind of way.

>Masterless Glencour
>Pilgrim Bellclaire
>Black Iron Tarkus
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Royal Rat Vanguard is the easiest fucking boss. I beat that faggot right after Pursuer, and I only used a dagger. Everything in Dark Souls 2 is either easy as fuck or broken as fuck. Shitty game. Dark Souls 1 is much better.
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I don't get why everyone is so mad about dark souls 2. The quality of From software's games always is always very irregular, varying from one title to the other.


Are we getting another Souls games? I liked 2 and I want more. Bloodborne looks way too different.
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>>253967426
>summons
Of course she does, because it's not Dark Souls 2 without adds in a boss fight.
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>>253969679
The level design and all that is part of the gameplay and it's part of what I meant.

dark souls and demons souls just don't get boring to play over and over. There's just something about them. But with DaS2, it just overstays its welcome.
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>>253970254
Because Demon Souls and Dark Souls were nearly equal in overall quality, with each one being stronger in certain areas and weaker in others.

Dark Souls 2 is a major step down from both and the indication is that this franchise is heading further down the drain in quality as it's popularity increases.
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>>253966959
>>253966103
This can't be happening!

I'm in charge here!!
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>>253970454
yeah thats the shitty thing

In Dark Souls 1 most bosses with adds/multiple foes either they could be negated some way or would come in when one is weak
Gaping Dragon - kill the channeller before
Four Kings/Pinwheel - kill them fast
Centipede Demon - don't sever the arms
Taurus Demon - can kill the archers before he appears
Nito - Divine weapons keeps the skellies dead, the giants only attack if you go near them

Dark Souls 2 sorely lacks moments like these
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>>253968791
And yet people would praise the level design and lack of soul memory meaning there was actual pvp.
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>>253969027
>>253969483
or it could've just been a newly designed dragon
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>>253966959
damit from
you had one thing one thing to do and you blow it
thats it i am enough with you i will ride /v/s hate wagon
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>>253970254
Different is good.
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Reminder that this counts as a boss-fight.
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>>253967080

According to Miyazaki, his team has been working on Bloodborne since after the Artorias DLC released for DaS. And from an early stage it was determined that it was going to be a PS4 game.

So yeah. DaS2 really WAS a b-team. The team responsible for DeS and DaS has been working on Bloodborne since late 2012.
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I....I can't....I can't defend this.

I stand down. /v/ was right.
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The souls series died once it released on PC.
Multiplat was pushing it.
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>>253963692
>>253966103
>>253966674
my god thats horrid
anyway is there going to be new armors weapons any real additions to the game ?
because thats the main reason for me playing and returning to this game
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>>253971396
I liked it.
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>>253971679
There's two stupidly strong Dark Crossbows
oh and TWOP and Second Chance are back but massively nerfed
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DLC leaked where?
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>>253969327
And you know this, how?
There are no legitimate sources that state that what you said is the truth.
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>>253971814
Its not really leaked when its already in the game.
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>>253968396
It will be glorious.

>>253967251
>>253967080
I've been waiting to hear shit like this from other people on /v/ since the game released. I'd actually been avoiding souls threads because of it. People that defend DaSII and Fromsoft anymore are deluded.
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>vocal minority samefagging all over the place

DaS 2 is objetively the best game in the saga and theres nothing you can do about it
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>>253966103
Wasnt havel already in the game? Are they seriously going to reuse him twice in the same game?
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>>253971951
>mfw the dlc update is 20 mb
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>>253971951
So people just changed some text file to allow early access on consoles or what? Because I've been through the game files and my pirated PC version doesn't have it.
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Reasons why Fromsoft a shit now:

1. Dark Souls 2 was objectively worse in design.
2. Bullshot pre-release.
3. "There will be no DLC" pre release, now there's DLC

They are now participants in the cash-grab phenomenon
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>>253972175
oh god the horrors
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>>253971887

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=840059

Yes yes I know. Neogaf. But the article where Miyazaki talks about it is all in nip. Here is the original if you can read it:

http://www.4gamer.net/games/260/G026038/20140611091/
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>>253972283
>>253972082
Neither of you gave any objective evidence. Do so or both of you can fuck off.
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>>253972175
i dont want to imagine that
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>>253972276
Because your pirated version isn't patched you retard. The actual patch was 1gb on steam, people got into the DLC with the help of Cheat Engine.
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>>253972283
>now
>almost entire history of the company has consisted of them rereleasing one game with updates
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>>253972175
mfw
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>>253972371
The problem with that is that it's likely marketing speak. Thanks for the sources though, it gives me a little hope.
I honestly do hope that Bloodbourne is good and DaSII was a fluke even though I'm mustard and I'll probably never play it but I am highly skeptical.
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>>253972446
So what the fuck do you even get for buying the DLC?
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>>253972402

You are objectively a faggot
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>>253972276
Patched in, people used a save editor to give access to item that allows travel to the new area.
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>>253972592
A pat on the back.
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>>253972592
A dick up your ass
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>>253972592
look>>253972175
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>>253963692
>I don't like Dark Souls 2.

...seriously though, the dlc looks meh so far.
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>>253972402
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/03/13/dark-souls-ii-graphics-and-lighting-downgrade-sparks-controversy/

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/12/20/dark-souls-2-dlc-is-not-really-being-considered

lel
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>>253972592
It will just trigger a flag in the game that spawns the entrance to the new areas. The DLC for DaS 1 worked in the same way in consoles with the content itself placed in a patch, although I dont know if you could get in by cheating.
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>>253972402

*Fist weapons are viable
*new weapon classes whips, lances, etc
*dual wielding
*summoning actually works in seconds
*better graphics, even without the lighting engine.
*More armor sets allowing for more variety in the gear you see people wearing online
*hexes and other magics added
*upgrading system is better
*more levels and bosses
*Backstabbing doesn't trivialize every enemy in the game
*mundane makes all weapons viable
*covenants actually work as intended this time and none of the covenents are completely worthless
*not constantly invaded by twinks in endgame gear at the starting zones
*more variety in enemies and boss types
*no bed of chaos tier boss
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I fucking hate dark souls 2s engine.
I don't know what it is, but Jesus christ , it feels like I'm moving through molasses the entire time. Even with 96 or 98 agi, it still feels so FUCKING delayed and slow. I loved how "cluncky" the combat in demons and dark souls was, and you had very quick movement. It was great. Sure, rolling needs a nerf, but they didn't do it right.
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>>253972884
>*More armor sets allowing for more variety in the gear you see people wearing online

Doesn't mean shit when everyone wears havels/smelter. And you can fucking fastroll in havels, that shouldn't even be a thing.
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>>253966959

fuck this world and everything on it

how can one company fuck up this hard
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>>253972884
The people youre arguing with havent played souls games, are skyrim fags, or thought the glitches in previous souls games added depth.
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I defended this fucking game, when shit-niggers were calling out how boring the atmosphere npc's and lore was, i defended that shit.

When people were complaining about the boring-ass bosses, i kept repeating darklurker like it made up for every other boss.

When people were complaining about the lack of fanart as a sign of boredom with the game, i said it was too early to call that.

Now this fucking dlc just rehashes, quite literally, Havel, which was already rehashed in DS2 anyway AND nashandra.

Next dlc will have Ornstein.

I give up, i aint defending this shit game.
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>>253973102
>daddy look at me! I just made my first straw man!
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>>253973020
Like it was different in previous games...
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>>253972884
>*more variety in enemies and boss types
bait/10
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>>253973020
Thats a problem with not having soul brackets in pvp. In dark souls 1 max levels ninja flipped in full giant.
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>>253966959
>eleana . the squalid queen
why do all the devs treat us like shit /v/ i cant stand it anymore ? do they think we are stubid
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>>253973236
>Next dlc will have Ornstein.
smough you mean, ornstein is already in game
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>>253973281
>mfw someone agreed with bait
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>>253973236
>The ornstein and smough bossfights gets reused with the same music in all three DLCs
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>>253972550

>The problem with that is that it's likely marketing speak.

About the gameplay? Sure. About when he was approached about making Bloodborne? Why would he lie about that? We've known for a while that he let someone else have the reigns with DaS2. Now it sounds like he took most of the DeS and DaS dev team with him to Bloodborne.
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>>253973239
>straw man
i thought it was ad hominem.
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>>253973419
>>implying it isn't samefag.
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>>253973394
they could probably squeeze him in again
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>>253972884
Whips are in dark souls 1, every fucking weapon in dark souls 1 is viable too, you can wreck with claws if you are good enough, more armor doesn't mean shit when its like demons souls and armor barley provides any defense, hexes were in dark souls 1, in 2 they just made them more powerful, how is the upgrading better? They dumbed it down. Backstabbing still wrecks anything you do it to, there's about an equal amount of levels, and overall they are smaller and don't expand upon themselves like in demons and dark souls 1, the covenants are worthless (at least online) because PvP is shit, mundane makes all weapons OP, constantly invaded? You could circumvent it by not going human. At least in dark souls 1 you don't have the possibility of invasion at every second, the variety is totally lacking, most bosses are humanoids with giant weapons, vendrick and the dragon.
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>>253973394
So is havel, but that didnt stop them from having him in the game twice.
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NO SEE IT MAKES SENSE FOR THEM TO REUSE BOSSES

IT FITS INTO THE LORE ABOUT HOW THE CYCLE OF LIGHT AND DARK KEEPS REPEATING AND THE SAME EVENTS KEEP TRANSPIRING SO OF COURSE YOU'D FIGHT THE SAME BOSSES AGAIN AND AGAIN
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Welp, that's 10$ I just saved.

What game should I buy with it? Thinking of getting Lost Oddesy for 360 but I lose interest fast in turn based RPG's.
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>>253973236
>darklurker, literal diablo 3 copypasta
>good
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>>253973635
thanks Vaati
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>>253973635
The plot of the game is also about people forgetting things, so the devs forgot to make a good game.
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>>253973236
my brother, as cancerous as we haters are, we all genuinely just wanted DS2 to be close to DS1 quality.
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>>253973635
>i wonder if bowser appears in the next mario game
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>There are people on /v/ who bought the season pass
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>>253973483
"The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position."
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>>253973665
Vanquish is pretty fun if you like third-person shooters. Shouldn't cost you more than 5$.
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>>253973731
2deep
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and tommorow we will see vati sucking froms dick
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>>253973816
i think i used both, ad hominem wrt skyrimfags and straw men vs glitching pvp nerds...still more valid than most stuff on v
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Spoiler: "B-team" is a myth.
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>>253974119
but c team is making bloodborne
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>>253974098
>admits to using fallacies in an "argument"
>thinks he's above the scum-tier average /v/ user
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>most bosses are humanoids with giant weapons

NOPE

Executioner's Chariot
Covetous Demon
Scorpioness Najka
Old Iron King
Royal Rat Authority
Prowling Magus & Congregation
The Duke's Dear Freja
Royal Rat Vanguard
The Rotten
Darklurker
Demon of Song
Guardian Dragon
Ancient Dragon


not to mention that the humanoids bosses all have their own gimmicks making them unique or you are going to tell me its the same to fight smelter and the lost sinner
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>>253974209
>Bloodbourne comes out
>Not a trainwreck, but DaSII tier
>G-g-guys, the TRUE spriritual successor to Demon's Souls is being worked on now by the TRUE original FROM dev team... Uhhh... Not that BAD one that made Bloodborne...
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i havent watched any of vaatishills videos since dark souls 2 or any other "lore" videos since dark souls 2 came out
are there any worth watching or is it all his contrived bullshit
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>>253973787
ya but what else is there to play?

it's sad time for vidya
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>>253974513
Fuck no.
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>>253974513
Give it a guess. Seriously, I have no doubt you'll get it first try.
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>>253974513
he pretty much lets /dsg/ and /v/ do his raw scripts for him, and he cashes out at the end

what am I saying, I'm just jealous he thought of that before me... fuck

>60
>GRAND
>PER YEAR
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>>253974391
>najka
Literally just quelagg with magic
>rat authority
Sit with 4 poison dogs
>magus
A FUCKING trash mob
>vanguard
Trash mob
>ancient dragon
Bed of chaos tier bullshit
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>>253971685
same
i liked rat vanguard and congregation
i just felt like congregation was poorly implemented
they should have made it a full chapel with the spell caster teleporting around and blasting you while the congregation was an actual full church of undead
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>>253974513
It's always the same shit like X things you Y about Dork Souls 2 shit.

It's sickening even just seeing the titles alone.
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>>253974495
From could literally rerelease DaS1 completely unchanged and people would still complain that it's not as good as Dark Souls
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>great hammers and claws will always be shit in both PVP and PVE
it hurts to live
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>>253974513
you could make your own mind or let the parroting shitposters in /v/ decide for you
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>>253969946
>Implying any living being can take Tarkus on a fight
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>>253974628
are there any videos besides vaati that are worth watching?
i remember seeing one actually where a guy was looking at one of the textures in the lost sinners room and examining it like it was an inkblot test or something
made zero fucking sense
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>>253974904
Did they nerf the Gyrm greathammer?
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>>253975058
Yep. The new meta is powerstanced Helix Halberds or powerstanced Pate's Spears.
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>>253974759
Assuming, at least in said universe this happens in, from aren't lambasted, people would complain that its a sequel that's still full of the same faults.
Sequels should improve upon their predecessors, not be filled with even more.
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>>253974958
i dont want to give that shill views unless theres something actually worth viewing
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So is strength still useless?
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>>253975002
>get invaded on top of Sens
>sprint to Tarkus
>watch Tarkus smash a twink off the side of the walkway
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>>253975031
That video you were talking about was a joke. The only good youtuber I know for the Souls series is EpicNameBro, he's a cool dude, not a shill, etc.
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>>253975058
all great hammer's R2s got nerfed to oblivion, literally a waste of stamina now
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Did.. people have trouble with the Vanguard?

Seriously?
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>>253975031
Jblackmel is PvP focused, but he's always upfront about how he feels 2 is a step down, and usually explains his thoughts, even though he is always so salty about drama.
ENB is good, and often times doesn't just suck 2s dick. He always sounds depressed though.
Matthewmatosis review is worth watching, as is his DeS commentary.
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>>253975215
>ENB didnt even finish his DaS2 playthrough

i know he hates it in secret, but cant tell the people
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>>253975317
Seriously? Of all the things to nerf, they pick that? They were the only satisfying weapon in the whole fucking game.
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>>253974391
>People hating on giant humanoids with giant weapons
Artorias was the best fight in Dark Souls, for me, at least.
Manus was amzing, and so was Kalameet.
2 of those are humanoids.
>Not DS2
Yeah, but the problem isn't a giant dude with a giant weapon, the problem is how the devs do the fight.
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>>253975445
He had to take a break from making videos due to personal reasons, he's continuing the playthrough tomorrow. There's a new update vid on his channel if you're interested.
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>>253975445
He released a video today. He's going to do more videos on it. He stopped because of his wife.
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>>253975404
>playing on PC
>60fps weapon degradation in effect
>using Large Club
>weapon breaks 1/3 of the way in, before Vanguard even drops down
>fug
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>>253975489
>PC version
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>>253974693
>najka
>Literally just quelagg with magic

Congratulations on being retarded, whilst the bosses look similar they are completely different encounters.
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>>253966959
Why is this even allowed?
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>>253975489
yeah, hardly anyone even used them
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>>253975650
>lag doesn't exist on console
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>>253975445
ENB is a fucking crybaby then.

In all honesty? As a die hard Souls fan I found it the most entertaining.

The combat felt alot better, it had more viable weapons and the level design if a little disjointed felt alot more complete than Dark Souls, though less so than Demon's Souls.

All I know is I am glad half the game isn't trundling around in a fucking shithole cave like Dark Souls is.
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>>253974391
>Executioner's Chariot
Cool, but taken straight from DMC3
>Covetous Demon
Boring design, boring attacks, boring boss
>Scorpioness Najka
B-team's Quelaag. Also, what am I playing God of War now.
>Old Iron King
Too easy,
>Royal Rat Authority
Utter garbage.
>Prowling Magus & Congregation
About as intimidating as a bucket of milk
>The Duke's Dear Freja
Giant spider.
>Royal Rat Vanguard
Trash.
>The Rotten
Looks like a random enemy.
>Darklurker
Stolen from Diablo.
>Demon of Song
When alongside every other terrible boss in the game, this one looks cool and original. But if it was in Dark Souls 1 or Demon's compared to the bosses there it ain't shit.
>Guardian Dragon
Generic
>Ancient Dragon
Joke boss.
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>>253975674
So why not and bear with me here, make different visuals for these different encounters?
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I can't.
I just can't defend Fromsoft anymore.
I knew this day would come- when my favorite developer would start churning out shit like they always do but I didn't think it would be so soon.
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>>253975807
the netcode is pretty good and it only gets bad when you face like a shitty australian or europian
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>>253975917
I dunno anon, why did you change your argument after I accused you of being wrong?
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>>253975893
2 has more caves than 1 though.
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>>253971086


>praise the level design

Level design is largely worse in 1 with entire maps unfinished and empty. The world design however, is better connected, but the actual level layouts are much better in 2.

>lack of soul memory meaning there was actual pvp.

That's bullshit because DaS1's brackets were even worse with level 30's being matched with level 713. Half the people on 4chan don't actually know what they're talking about when it comes to pvp matchmaking.

http://darksouls.wikidot.com/online-matchmaking
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>>253975986
The net code is better than DS1, but I don't think it's very good.
>mfw I'll never know if I'm a good pvp-er because of lag stabs/hits
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>>253966959
>>253966103
This is EA levels of shit. I feel ashamed for giving those fuckers any money. Fuck B-team
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Some people are saying that the true ending is only available through the DLC and there is one QTE in this DLC.
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>>253976076
Wasn't that anon bud, just trying to understand why they would literally copy and paste boss designs if they were going to change the boss fights.
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>>253975946
Don't compare Miyazaki's Diamond Dogs and their gems of games to the B-team's fan-fiction drivel.
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>>253976191
>HALLWAYS FULL OF HUMANOID ENEMIES BEFORE BOSSFIGHTS
>JUST A BONFIRE BEFORE A FUCKING HALLWAY STUFFED WITH ENEMIES
>BETTER LEVEL DESIGN
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did they like buff poise or something?

I mean It just procted on a two handed mace swing while I was winding up my ZWHY r1
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>>253969210
What's going on with that picture? What does that thing on the right mean?
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>>253976076
That's someone else, I'm trying to remember how najka fights compared to quelagg.
They both have close physical swipes, but najka has more ranged attacks (even though they both have them) quelagg are better though because hers effect the environment for a time, and she has her magic pulse if so stay too close.
Both bosses jump around, najka can go under the sand but standing on a rock nullifies this. She has dragon like tail attacks, but jumping was about as effective.
I don't think you can stun najka either, which is bullshit.
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>>253976374
Yeah, they buffed poise a bit and nerfed the defense on most armors.
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>>253976148
At least there is shit in the cave and they didn't turn the lights out to hide that shit.

>>253975904
Here is what we call a "bitch" who sucks so much dick he forgets there are like 8 actual bosses in Dark Souls that are not just rehashed enemies.
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>>253976341
I'm not buying a PS4, but I really want BloodBorne to be a good game.
DS2 left a good hole in me, I only want to see this series doing great, and I don't think DS2 did this.
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>>253974716
The early stuff was actually interesting videos, but then it became super obvious that he was just scraping the bottom of the barrel in order to release a higher volume of content and get more jewtoob money.

Those "X things you didn't know about Y" videos are literal cracked-tier clickbait. And even before those you could see how he was scraping the bottom, like with those cut content lore videos.
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>>253975520
When people say humanoids they're also referring to movesets. Artorias was fun because he was all over the place with his own attacks.
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>>253976618
Same here man. Same here.
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>>253976357
>Literally a shit cave but made dark to hide the boring ass level design
>A fire cave
>A very liner and boring library followed by a disjointed blue cave
>Last level is pretty cool But leads to a gray cave

Shits just caves nigga.
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>>253976341
Well then maybe they should kick the shitters out and have them form their own dev studios. It's like paying good money for a massage and then getting an intern.
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>>253976341
>Muh B team.

Most of the names on Dark Souls 2 are from Dark Souls.

So if anything, Bloodborne is made by the B team.
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>>253975190
>tfw roleplaying iron golem
>tfw host summons tarkus and I just wind blade him off the ledge instantly
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>>253966103
>>253966674
>>253966959
Fucking disgusting. As if I needed another reason to stay away from Bloodborne. These fucks aren't getting another dime from me.
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>>253975445
ENB doesn't finish any of his playthroughs
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>>253975986

It's not the netcode you fucking dildo. It's because of how the hitboxes are tied to the framerate, and for whatever fucking reason they thought this was okay despite knowing the PC version would run at 60
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>>253976884
Someone post the chart, because that's incorrect.
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>>253976956
yep Ill stick with 30fps just to make things consistant here
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>Dark Souls II is now hated by /v/ as much as Bioshock Infinite or Gone Home

Why
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>>253977087
>now
Welcome newfriend.
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>>253976787
Given the reaction to DS2, I doubt the new directors will be trusted with much more after this DLC cycle.

People who hug From's nuts 24/7 don't realize that doing so leads us to getting shit like Dark Souls 2.
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>>253976904
>roleplaying as a boss
>having fun, themed invasions
I remember what that felt like...
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>>253977087
Because it broke our hearts anon, is not shit, but is far, far worse than what DkS1 was. I have lost everything that was good and now is... average
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>>253977087
because /v/ is a single, cynical, spiteful faggot
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>>253977087
People finally stopped being delusional FROMdrones and actually realized the game was a half-assed rushed piece of shit.

It's also less of blind hate and more of extreme disappointment then anything.
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>>253976191
2 has a bunch of levels that feel unfinished. Not only that, but shorter and no where near as open or vertical.
Like blighttown. The gutter suck compared to blughttown. Its shorter, the enemies are easier, you can only enter from one point (blightown has two entrances, and then connects to two other areas) it doesn't add in various elements (blighttown goes from vertical climb down to a huge open swamp. Gutter is just a several slightly open houses connected by bridges).
Its shit. The level design fucking sucks in dark souls 2. Never mind all the god damn bonfires either.
And dark souls has way better brackets. You got way more fucking action, and a infinite up/infinite down made sense from a lore stand point. You were still brackted off from down/up respectively too. You at least have to build your character in 1 depending on the PvP you wanted. No matter what, unless soul memory is removed, there's no reason not to Max level in 2. You are punished for not continuing to level, in fact.
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>>253974391
>Executioner's Chariot
Cool
>Covetous Demon
Shit, easy, boring fight
>Scorpioness Najka
ok..
>Old Iron King
Shit. Reminded me of Bed o Chaos
>Royal Rat Authority
Sif Reskin. Shit
>Prowling Magus & Congregation
Shit
>The Duke's Dear Freja
Ok..
>Royal Rat Vanguard
Utter shit
>The Rotten
Humanoid figure with big weapon.
>Darklurker
Ok...
>Demon of Song
Ok..
>Guardian Dragon
Utter shit
>Ancient Dragon
Are you even trying? This boss is a joke

Shit: 8
Ok: 4
Good: 1
I'm sorry Dark Souls 2 bosses are utter garbage
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>>253976597
>turn lights out
I find this so ironic. We were fucking lied to about the torch system, and because of it dark souls 2 is brighter than 1.
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>>253977087
guys guys! they fixed poise!

they decreased the treshholds by a shitton and it still only works as super armor!

I think the super armor frames for heavier weapons will make them a little more viable!
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Another series killed by shitty cash ins and dlc bullshit. rest in peace
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>>253976884
The majority of staff had no creative say in the matter.
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>>253977239
Oh fucking please.

The Combat in Dark Souls one was fucking pathetic.

And the game literally drops off halfway through and limps forward with boring shitty bossfights and pathetic level design after Anor Londo.

>>253977319
>Build your character. Dark Souls.

You mean exactly two builds right?

Magic or Strength/Dex. Everything else sucked ass.
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Have people forgotten that the asylum demon was reused four times(including smough)? Also gwyndolin, bed of chaos, Priscilla, pinwheel, and moonlight butterfly were extremely gimmicky and were all poor excuses for a boss fight.
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>>253969946
But Tarkus was alredy in the game.
after Seath experimented on him he turned into Manscorpion Tark
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>>253977506
>FROM series
>killed by dlcs

No, any series FROM ever created was either forgotten or got shit sequels. FROM is inconsistent as fuck.
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>>253977543
>Most of the people are from Demon's Souls
>Waaaah Dark Souls 2 is shit.

I am convinced every crying bitch is a Dark Souls tier fuckbaby who praises that lifeless husk of a game and exclaims it has atmosphere and good bosses.

There are 2 good bosses in Dark Souls. 2.
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its safe to assume the best players in the B team have moved onto bloodborne,
and the DLC is being made by the C team
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>>253977652
> Also gwyndolin, bed of chaos, Priscilla, pinwheel, and moonlight butterfly were extremely gimmicky and were all poor excuses for a boss fight.

Yeah, but at least they had variety.

The majority of DS2's bosses are gigantic humanoids with large weapons that you beat by circling behind them and attacking their blind spot.
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>>253977237
theme invasions was what I loved to do in DaS. I loved iron golem invasions in sens, silver knight archer invasions in AL, shrek invasions in blighttown swamp, chameleon dickass thief invasions in upper blighttown, etc etc. I did true SL120 pvp as well, but my heart was in the theme invasions.

And DaS2's soul memory system killed all that. But you can't even bring this up without being accused of just being a twink.
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>>253977568
Your baits are low level anon, gather more souls
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I wonder why you guys are all silly about the DLC like if it where on disk?

they made it "free" with the patch so you can get summoned to try it out if you like it or not
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>there are people in this thread who actually think Bloodborne will be better than DaS2
>there are people in this thread that think the complaints of people on 4chin aren't vastly outweighed by people on reddit and other sites who give DaS2 nothing but praise
>there are people in this thread that think From doesn't measure success in sales and therefore sees DaS2 as being a great success

yeah, good luck fromdrones. b-team or not, standards have fallen to shit, from is done making good games and will fall into the COD "one game a year" cycle of mediocrity. this is what success does to a company, no surprise
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>>253977784
You mean like most of the bosses in Dark Souls are either a large stupid monster you beat by circling behind them and attacking their blind spot OR a large humanoid with a large weapon?
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>>253966674

>Rapacious
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>>253977568
>The Combat in Dark Souls one was fucking pathetic.
>The Combat
>Dark Souls one
>pathetic.
Are you simple? Do you not realize how much of a fucking gigantic PVP scene there was in that game? That was one of the MAJOR reasons why it was so popular. You can talk about backstabs or shield pokes all you want but the very core of the system was well balanced, innovative, fun and had a fuck ton of room for innovation.
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>>253977652
I'd rather have gimmicky fights than big person with big weapon
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>>253977745
>Most of the people are from Demon's Souls

17 people are from Demon's Souls. I'm thoroughly convinced that people who defend this game are mustards who loathe the idea of getting shafted with the least-favorite game in the series.
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>>253977784
You can circle strafe the bosses in the first game too, dipshit. It's even easier since they're all giant.
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>>253977568
you're ignorant if you think there are only 2 builds. And even then, 2 people can have the same overall style of build (ie, str/faith) and still be completely different.
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>>253977784
I'd rather have the same type of enemy reskinned than something as shitty as the Bed of Chaos. People give B-Team shit all the time, but they seem to forget that the latter half of DaS was utter trash.
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>>253977568
How much PvP did you do in dark souls 1?
Fai STR/ FAI DEX/ MAG DEX/ MAG STR/ QUALITY/ Pyromancy and cos plays were all viable builds. And I'm saying that you actually had to build your character. Every bracket that got play meant you'd have to sacrafice stats depending on what you wanted. In 2, this isn't the case. Unless you hack your soul memory or create a new character, eventually you will be paired with players that maxed leveled and there's nothing you can do. There's no point in a build, just max level because there's no point not to.
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Guys I played for nearly two hundred hours just dicking around with different characters and ran out of fucks.

Tried playing it again and the giant king is just so boring I can't get back into the game.

Solutions?
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>>253977873
Everything about your statement is wrong
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>WHAT AGAIN HAVEL?
>RESKIN OF FINAL BOSS?

You fucking forget too easily how you had to fight 3 re-skins of Asylum demon on DkS1
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So is there like anything new in the DLC? More big dudes in armor and a shitty reskin of the final boss? Are you kidding me? They want people to spend money on this?
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>>253977679
>implying Iron Tarkus wasn't reborn as Jester Thomas
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>>253977946
its just soul memory is whats wrong with das2 pvp really

>>253978095
what they should hide the content behind the purchase?
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>>253969815
No, you don't seem to get it.
A team wanted to ALSO milk the franchise, so they made Bloodbourne for Sony, while they let B team make Dark Souls 2 for Bamco

Both teams are milking the franchise
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>>253978121
Go look at /dsg/, there are plenty of pics and shit. It looks bad.
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>>253978219

>parroting this reddit meme
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Also, the nashandra clone has her own moveset and fights nothing like nashandra. The dragon kind of is a watered down kalameet though.
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>>253978219
Jester Thomas invades you in the Sunken King DLC.
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>>253978070
Play Dark Souls and make a friendly merchant build.
I usually run with the sack, holy robes and havel's gauntlets and leggings,
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>>253978109
You know what I remember? I remember the Artorias DLC coming out and having the best fucking boss fights in the entire series. Now that was DLC.
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>>253977992
The keyword there being variety. Moonlight Butterfly, Priscilla, Bed of Chaos, Gwyndolin, Sif, all required different ways of fighting them. They may not have all been good, but there was variety in the ways you took each of them down.

How many bosses in Dark Souls 2 require NOT walking around the back of the boss?
Sif 2.0, Voidwalker, and Throne Watcher/Defender, and Iron King are all that comes to mind.
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