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I just want everyone to be happy. Except the average Smashfag on /v/
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I just want everyone to be happy.
Except the average Smashfag on /v/
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>Isaac
Too bad, anon. I would be really fucking happy.
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>>253676712
Same here man. I want Ridley in so bad but I'm not going to get pissed at Shulkfags because they want Shulk, or K.Roolfags because they want him. So many people think "Lol no one likes your purple dragon he'll never be in" but if they actually did a bit of research they would find he's actually bretty fucking cool. I had no idea who the fuck Shulk was until I looked into it a bit more, and he seems like he would be pretty legit.
I just feel like the hype train will move so much faster if we just fucking get along.
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>>253676712
>no bandana waddle dee
fuck you
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>>253678378
>Normal enemy promoted to playable character in one game
Might as well add Dry Bones or Koopa.
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>>253678378
>>253678531
Not before Captain Toad.
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Shulk is such a fuccboi and I can't wait until December so we can never think about him again.
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>>253677728
Almost any character is pretty fucking cool with a little research. Although I guess it's better to be hyped for every character you know so that you'll be happy if at least one gets in.
I'm just going to wait for them to confirm Snake returning. He's just waiting it out all stealth like, making sure he knows who all the newcomers are before it's SHOW TIMU. That's totally it.
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>>253678531
But Koopa is already in Smash Bros
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>>253676712
Add Jill & Drill Dozer to that list, (and change Chorus Men to just Marshal) and you've got my dream roster.
Pic very related.
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>>253678827
You know I meant a koopa Troopa.
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>>253678531
>one game
>super star
>super star ultra
>mass attack
>return to dreamland
>triple deluxe
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>>253678827
If he turned his head full to the right the spikes on his color would hurt his chin.
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>>253678531
>one game
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>said Miis will never get in
>It was kind of expected anyway
>said Pac-Man will never get in
>wrong again
>said Robin will never get in
>fuck Smash

I give up. What next, will Ridley get in too?
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>>253679834
It is written.
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>>253678378
But he tried so hard for you.
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>>253678750
I'm waiting for Waifu Warriors Impa. Muh fucking dick.
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>>253679834
I'm just happy you're still in pieces after being BTFO so many times.
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>>253679834
Tough luck anon. I put my money on Chrom and got BTFO. Defended him a bunch in threads too. I'm glad we have Robin though.
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>>253680447
Trust me, I welcome death or at least Shulk
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>I will always be a Genofag
>No matter what, Smash will never make me happy until Geno is in
>Endless suffering
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>>253680440
Good choice, but literally impossible due to the time it takes to plan a character.
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>>253680592
True. I'm ok with Robin I guess. I'll probably play girl Robin a lot anyway
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>yfw there will never, ever be a final, surprise "villians trailer" featuring Ridley, K. Rool, and Mewtwo
>yfw it will never begin with Ganondorf almost shot for shot how the Robin/Lucina trailer began with Captain Falcon
>yfw halfway through it won't suddenly break sync with the Falcon trailer to signify Ganondorf's new, unique moveset
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>>253676712
That's a pretty good roster. I'd play it.
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>>253680754
The design could have been done way before Hyrule Warriors development. It's entirely possible.
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>>253680068
I still want to believe.
But why were stage bosses hyped when we've only seen three, and the two on 3DS we don't even know if we can interact with?
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Lucina's and Robin's inclusion blew me the fuck out, but I'm pretty happy by them. Robin's got a neat gimmick and that final smash hyped me.

I've got pretty much no hope for Ridley but if he is in I'd fucking explode
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/v/ is full of normalfags who think you need to go to parties and fuck bitches in order to be happy anyway.
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>>253680068


are ridley fags this autistic?

as much as id love him he is just a boss for pyrosphere. thats a simple fact.
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>>253681740
>>253681741
Prepare your rectums.
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>>253682098
I still can't see the Riddler in there.
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>>253680068
I actually generally agree with this, except the part about the Little Mac/Samus height comparison. She's just the tallest humanoid character, so she was the best choice for a comparison.
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>>253682096
> implying we've seen him as a boss hazard
> taking the shadow of a heavily requested character at face value
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>>253682096
funny how yellow devil, the gerudo witches and kamek were all blatantly shown and ridley wasnt. kinda reminds me of how they kept teasing palutena and she'd never be playable. oh wait.
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>>253682520
Same here, I think that's just coincidence. Also if you've heard of the Trophy Theory the last newcomer trailer coincides with it a bit. Lucina is shown fighting on Pyrosphere, Skyloft, and Palutena's Temple.
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Still waiting to be BTFO Sakurai.
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Y'know, I used to be anti Ridley but over time I warmed to the idea and now I'd be happy with his inclusion.
I'd rather the Gematsu fags get BTFO too
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>>253682970
I really hope that's the case.
They haven't shown Pyrosphere's boss, nor have we seen any DK or Kirby stages (that aren't past stages)
I'm thinking they're gonna show off a lot of stage bosses in the next direct.
Dyna Blade or Magolor for Kirby.
Tiki Tong or Frederik for DK.
Phantoon or Kraid on Pyrosphere or Ridley
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it's always a motherfuckin' livin'
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>>253683179
Same here anon. ;_;
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>>253683318
We haven't seen much Star Fox content as well. It's strange that we're lacking from DK, Kirby, and Star Fox.
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>>253683579
Yeah, maybe 64 Andross will be a boss as well. That would be really neat.
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>>253681740
They're not even really all that hyped. We just saw a couple and then a shadow, it's really not that much. Sakurai might not even realize how much of a shitstorm that shadow has caused.
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>>253683930
>Sakurai might not even realize how much of a shitstorm that shadow has caused.
Of course he knows. That's why he only showed a shadow.
Ridley is one of the most requested characters, so of course Sakurai will tease Ridley to keep players in suspense.
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>>253680650
Ridley, Obliterate!
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>>253684131
I want to get off Mr. Sakurai's Ruse Cruise
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>>253684131
I'm just sayin' he might not even think of it as being as big of a deal as everyone else does.

I'd love to be wrong, though.
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>MFW this wont be the roster.
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>>253676712

This is best roster I have seen so far.

The only thing I can think of is to take out Wolf and put in Mach Rider.
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>>253685115
Nah man. I used to think like you; but since Monday, I`m now convinced that playing us for fools is Sakurai`s only joy in life.
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>>253676712
watching that roster made me realize than wario, yoshi and dk are not mario reps, which means mario only has 5, same as pokemon or zelda and only one less than fire emblem.

I know peach still has it but this motherfucker deserves a chance. he's literally one the most iconic and recognizable character in all vidya history. also he has a shiton of alt costumes which would be fun to use.
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RAY EVERY DAY
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>>253685595
there Mario Reps,there just big enough to have there own franchise. Mario is the biggest thing in gaming after all.
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>>253685595
Pic of the Day!

When toad is out on the the battlefield, Peach's neutral B will be replaced by none other than Alfonzo!

Alfonzo: Leave it to me!
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I really and truly hope that Ganondorf has a sword this time around. Make him functionally similar to Brawl, but change some of his moves to sword slashes. A rushing Slash instead of the Wizard Foot. Keep his choke, turn his up+B into a leaping sword thrust, etc.

As long as his Ftilt, jab, and smash B are kept, everything else can be changed visually, really.
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>>253685970
They aren't mario reps. Unless you're saying DK and Diddy kong are mario reps too.
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>even pretending skward sword exists
>no major

Get.
The Fuck.
Out.
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>>253686172
Ganondorf needs to be like a more powerful Robin, and he needs his Trident. Seriously, he has never used his fist to fight and he only used swords in like two games. He was a rushed character and Sakurai should have fixed him back in Brawl.
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>>253683579
With DK and Star Fox I'm betting because it's unlockable stuff. The lack of Kirby stuff is odd though, maybe Meta Knight will be unlockable this time?
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>>253685595
I like you. He can share Peach's down-B but have the ability to find bombs, POW Blocks and other items from SMB2. Not to mention NSMB's stuff like the Propeller Hat for an Up-B. Toad made more sense as a fighter than Rosalina, personally. But to each his own.
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>>253686680
>He has never used his fist to fight

Except that time he beat the everloving shit out of Link in Wind Waker.

Ganondorf never used a trident. Phantom Ganon used a halberd and Pig Ganon used a trident, but there's no precedent for Ganondorf using one, although there's plenty of cause for him having a sword.
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>>253683190
They already were thankfully, even if some of them or too deluded to realize it.
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>>253686765
Peach can already find bob-ombs with her down+B. I agree with Pow blocks, though. Also maybe make his turnips the little onions instead or something?
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>>253685595
I would be completely fine with Captain Toad getting in.
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>>253686765
>tfw finding bombs with toad at the speed of light
I want him now. Why he always has to be a secondary or the host?
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>>253686765
You see, anon, Sakurai needed a puppet master archetype character, but forgot we already had one. Pretty much why Rosalina got in.
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Ridley is too big. Stop debating it.
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>>253686882
Yeah but they're refered as the same person in the recent games. You can see in ALTTP's remake how they talk about this Ganondorf thief.

Also I believe Phantom Ganon is like a clone of him, so it's not weird to see Ganondorf using a trident or halberd. In fact, it's better than seeing him using swords considering the game as already too much of them.

What he needs yes or yes is magic. Seriously, Ganondorf without magic is like Pikachu without electricity.
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>>253685595
Could be a combination of SMB2, Wario's Woods, and Captain Toad.

Also, the one Peach is carrying can palette swap.
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>>253687767
The only thing big about Ridley are his chances of being playable in Smash 4.
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>>253687185
I think Captain Toad would be best as an assist trophy.
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>>253687767
>Stop having the argument you've been having for a decade

It's no use.
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>>253687846
>phoenix
>zero
>layton
>bomberman
>raiden

who the fuck thought this would be a good idea. might as well include goku and naruto
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>>253687846
>Raiden's head poking in
I don't understand why I'm laughing
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>>253687767
No he isn't.
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>>253687846
>Grovyle
>Not Sceptile

>Pichu
>ever

>Raiden
>When Snake is cut

Who in the hell is that in the bottom left?
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>>253688728
Zero from some Megaman game i think.
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>>253676712
get rid of andy snake and wonder red and ill be happy with that roster
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>>253679447
>>253679795
>>253678378
Kirby fans are the worst. They also claim that Air Ride isn't a bad game.

>>253680802
Hopefully you can have the alternate faces as costumes for Robin. I always found the default ones a bit boring.
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>>253690435
>Air Ride
>Bad

I'll fight you over this
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>>253689836
Why Snake?
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>>253689836
This list isn't made to appease you, you awful roster fag.

In fact I made it to piss off people like you who DON'T want characters in because you don't like them.
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>>253686978
>>253687238
Alternatively, he can be a speedster with power attributes. You have no idea how much I wanted Toad in Smash and how heartbroken I was to see Rosalina instead.

>>253687592
But to each his own, once again. I've since gotten over it.
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This is most civil I've seen Ridley/roster discussion. I want to believe he has a shot but it's not easy. If he doesn't make it I hope whoever is in makes the most people happy too.
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>>253677728
I make it a point to play a game involving every rep for this reason. Maining Ness is what led me to play Earthbound for the first time. It just feels wrong to not have an understanding of their history.
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>>253686746
That would be weird since he wasn't unlockable in his debut. The only other reason I can think of is that they're saving the content for a newcomer.
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>>253690757
How would Wonder Red even work, hasn't he already been deconfirmed
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>>253690435
Don't get mad at Kirby fans because of HAL pushing Bandana Dee.
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>>253691224
He would punch shit with giant red fists, and knowing Sakurai he would probably be able to use the other morphs as well. But yeah it is moot since he is a trophy.
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>No Hades
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>>253691369
Like I know the whole unite morphs deal, but wouldn't that require more wonderful ones to be following Red?
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>forgetting the most important guy
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>>253691369
>>253691224
>Mario has a trophy
>This deconfirms him.
Hue hue hue hue hue. This is almost as bad as the logic behind anti-squirtle and ivysaur.
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>>253691506
Could just have the Wonderfuls show up to form attacks then go away when the attack is done.

>>253691535
Will be upset if he's in over Ridley.
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>>253676712
>ridley
not this shit again
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>>253690560
>a racing game where you can't even turn without stopping
>good
And don't even try to pass off that terrible battle mode as fun.
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>>253691554
Well Ubisoft said Rayman is only a trophey, so chances are everyone who's been shown as a trophey won't be showing up as fighters.

Squirtle and Ivysaur are dead, it's time to let go
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>>253676712
too many pokemon, otherwise it's damn near perfect
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>>253690958

I agree. Like most, I got into Fire Emblem through Marth and Roy in Melee. Before that I felt the need to play F-Zero in order to understand Captain Falcon, though I soon found out his entire moveset is made up.
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>>253691861
You're logic is worse than you spelling.
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>>253691554
Yeah it totally makes sense that they would show Red as a trophy months before showing him as an actual character. It's a great idea to destroy the hope of fans that he'll be in. And it totally makes sense to wait this long to reveal him rather than revealing him alongside the release of his game which totally didn't need a potential sales boost from it's main character being in Smash. Yeah, Wonder Red is definitely playable in Smash.
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>>253691709
That would be a clusterfuck if you think about how quickly you can use attacks in the game
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>>253691739
You only use this star?
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>>253691965
>you spelling

The irony.
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>>253691965
I bet you still think Roy is going to come back
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>>253690958
> maining Ness
My nigga. Mained since Smash 64.
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>>253691861
Wait why would we get Ray-Man as just a trophy? That doesn't make any sense. Why would we get a trophy for a 3rd party protagonist that isn't even represented by anything?
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>>253692180
He represents decent sales?
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>>253692180
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>>253692180
Ask Sakurai
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>>253692098
also there is no mini map and you can't even fall off the tracks when it looks like you clearly should
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>>253691731
>still getting mad over ridley
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Thanks you guys who still think Ridley has a chance. I go back and forth on how I feel his chances are and you guys lift my spirits.
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>>253676712
This isn't a terrible roster, actually--just unrealistic in the number of characters it includes. Let's go through them.

>Shulk
Whether you believe Gematsu or not, he's actually a likely addition. Better than even odds.

> Isaac
He did have a game in the last five years--it just didn't do well. He's a contender, but at the edge of the fray.

> Dixie Kong
Her, or Cranky, have good odds. A 1/3 shot for either of them.

>Krool
The Kremlings weren't part of DKC's revival, and they probably won't be part of smash either.

> Ghirahim
Hmm. Even if he's in Hyrule Warriors, he won't likely be in future Zelda games, and Sakurai knows that. Odds are low.

> Takamaru
Could be the surprise character. But probably won't be.

> Mewtwo
Prominently featured in X&Y, in recent a movie, almost certainly returning.

> Chorus Boys
A Rhythm Heaven rep is likely. If you believe Gematsu, that rep will be Chorus Boys.

> Wonder Red
Already deconfirmed. He's an assist trophy.

> Bayonetta
No.

> Andy
A good choice. I've heard nothing one way or the other, really, but we haven't seen this guy since Dual Strike. 10%?

> Ridley
Too big to be feasible. Just not a good commando name.

> Snake
Metal Gear Solid V for Wii U / 10.
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>>253692713
fuck the people on /v/ never give up
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>>253692532
>no mini-map
Confirmed for not playing the game
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Who else doesn't have a problem with anyone on the roster at all? Feels good.
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>>253691862
>too many
No such thing.
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>>253692130
I never claimed to have good spelling.
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>>253693085
I'm okay with Miis, since I can do this
I'm okay with Rosalina because of her moveset
I'm okay with Lucina, since she is essentially a bonus character

I love Little Mac, Pac-Man, and Robin.
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Sigh...
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>>253693141
/vp/ pls
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>>253692967
Believe in the Ruse Cruise.
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>>253693085
I don't outright hate anyone that got in but I do feel Rosalina is unjustified and I wish her central gimmick was used for a Custom Robo character. But I'm alright with it, I guess.

There are a lot of character I'd like to see get in.
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>>253692967
j>>253693627
I'm just concerned Sakurai thinks boss Ridley will make people "happy" or that he just doesn't care. Hope he cares more than that.
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>>253692828
I like it when people are correct.

From OPs roster we are getting Shulk, Rhythm Heaven, Mewtwo, and maybe one of Dixie, Andy, or Isaac. This is reality people.
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>>253693627
i always have a hard time believing this kind of shit, like that pac man cloud was right there in front of our faces yet nobody noticed
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>>253693627
What I want to know is why Ridley in Smash 4 has the tail spike of Clone Ridley and the gangly-ness of original Ridley.
If he was only the boss for the Other M stage, why not just use Other M's design?
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>>253676712

>isaac

into the trash
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>>253693870
i'd be more worried that he's hinting at some kind of bonus wii u exclusive playable stage boss mode. which honestly i wouldn't mind, as long as we at least get some other metroid newcomer as well
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>>253693627
Anyone have the one where it's the halberd scene from SSE and someone was doing the same thing with the clouds in that scene, only it was being serious
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>>253676712
More like this one OP.
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>>253693870
Well he's added highly requested characters in every game so far, don't see why he would exclude Ridley especially when he acknowledged the requests after Brawl came out.
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>>253694042
Would that really work though? I mean Yellow Devil is simple as fuck and a player controlling him wouldn't really do much.
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>>253693918
Go watch the Greninja reveal trailer, about 1:20 in. See for yourself.
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>>253692828
Yeah, I'd say Shulk is pretty much a given

I seriously doubt Nintendo isn't going to rep their first-party subsidiary with the MC from their most popular, critically acclaimed game

it's obvious Nintendo are making a concerted effort in pushing the Xenoblade series. I believe Nintendo and Monolithsoft are both dedicated in turning the Xenoblade series into a big hit, and Nintendo are dedicated in realising this.

There's also a spiritual sequel, Xenoblade X, hitting the Wii U in 2015.

The signs are all too clear.
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>>253694223
I remember reading somewhere that Sakurai didn't want to have any special gamepad-only features due to how there is so many control options
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>>253694063

>gordon ramsey

these don't usually make me laugh..
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>>253694223
sakurai can make anything work, so i wouldn't be surprised

>>253694256
i already have, i meant i can't believe we didn't see it sooner considering that it was right under our noses
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>>253692828
>if you believe Gematsu
>autism
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I really want Wonder-Red to be in. It would be so good, just imagine his final smash

eat my shorts
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>>253693915
>>253692828
>being "realistic"
>predicting anything in smash bros

just stop, it never works
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>>253694042
Well Sakurai said they aren't using the pad for anything that would require it and there's no other real way to do such a mode without it. Plus people would just argue who gets to play as the boss.
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>>253680068

>mfw I realize it said "Other boss character appearances"
>mfw this could possibly be construed as "Ridley is a character that is typically a boss, and is making an appearance in smash" rather than "Ridley is going to be a boss in smash"
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>wanting Wonder Red as playable
>not wanting the whole Wonderful One-Double-Oh in as the Multi-Man enemies

It's literally perfect.
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>>253693915
Like Chrom was a shoo-in.
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>>253693979
This gives me some hope too. He's like Bowsers size and some composite or modified Other M Ridley. Would be no need to do that for a boss.
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>>253693469
It's nintendo's highest selling and most popula franchise.
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>>253694478
The Ruse Cruise captain, Sakurai knows how to drive a hype train.
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>>253683142
>Sylux
Darth Vader is more relevant for Nintendo than Sylux...
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Honestly after Lucina and Robin I expect Ridley to be in. I'm not a Ridleyfag or anything, but every reveal has had me BTFO. I used to insult Lucinafags and Robinfags for being absolute retards because of course Chrom would be the Awakening rep and everyone who thought otherwise was a wishfully thinking delusional fanboy. I do the same thing to Ridleyfags, so at this point I wouldn't be surprised to get BTFO.
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>>253694691
i don't have a wii u yet, how many controllers does it support? what if it just used regular controls?

as for people arguing, i don't know, maybe chill out and take turns or something
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>>253676712
I can't be happy, Ashley's an AT.

Ask me again when DLC season comes knocking next year.
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It's a shame that if a Xenoblade character actually makes it in, it will be Shulk just because he's the main character.
Another sword user, whoo.

Can't have another character like Fiora, Riki, Melia, or Reyn as side characters never make it in over the mains. Dunban would even be better, but he would just be another sword character with autocombo specials.
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>>253694063
Anti-Venom Eddie Brock alt or fuck off.
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>>253694873
It was always "one of Chrom or Lucina." And that's what we got. I was thinking it was going to be Lucina the whole time, because they wanted more women in the roster and Chrom just looks too similar to Marth.
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>>253691535
I don't remember him.
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>>253694912
That would be the most egregious thing if he was just a boss. Why shrink and change his design if he'd be playing pretty much the same role he did in Brawl? It doesn't make sense.
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>>253695045
Wii U gamepad
Wii U Pro controller
Wiimote
Wiimote + Nunchuck
Wii Classic Controller
Gamecube controller via upcoming adapter
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>>253694810
I've said this since the direct. Japanese love wordplay.
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>>253694810
Just like Ganondorf who also hasn't been shown yet.
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>>253695045
It supports ALL the Wii ones and a new GC adapter and all the WiiU controllers.
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>>253695182
>Always

Fuck no, people said that at the start maybe but as soon as Marth was revealed Lucinafags were laughed out of every thread and Chrom was the defacto choice.
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I've never played SMRPG but I do know a lot of people wanted Geno for brawl, do people still care about him, does he have a chance or is he dead like Skullkid and Waluigi
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>>253695095
Shulk's would not be like any other sword user in the roster though.

His moveset will consist of positional attack damage, Arts, buffs/debuffs, visions, and the talent gauge

there's so much too draw from. He'd be a sword fighter, yes, but a very unique one at that.
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>>253695541
Because of Gematsu. Not because of whatever you're going on about.

If you didn't realize Lucina was a contender and were shocked at her reveal, you're behind the curve. Pure and simple. If you think Ridley is realistic, you're in the gamefaqs crowd.
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>>253695504
>>253695336
no, i meant like how many at once. just four right?
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>>253695095

Shulk is the Marth of Xenoblade. He is the "Nintendo All-star" associated with the franchise. Just because a side character is more hipsterishly likable than him doesn't warrant their inclusion, even if they would have cool movesets. Don't worry though, with all of his Monado arts Sakurai will make him unique.
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>>253693870
>I'm just concerned Sakurai thinks boss Ridley will make people "happy" or that he just doesn't care.
Sakurai acts like Assist Trophies are just as good as playable. It's the "Please Understand" of SSB.
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>>253695858
His sword would also be fucking huge, that's different from everyone else
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>>253695979
>Sakurai acts like Assist Trophies are just as good as playable.
No he doesn't and I have no idea why people continue to spread this misinformation
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>>253696105
>implying
However, a guy with a fuckhuge sword in addition to magic would be cool.
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>>253695859
Considering just how awful /v/ is at predicting this roster I would trust Gamefaqs over them at this point.
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>>253676712
>DK
>getting another rep
>ever
Sakurai wants us to suffer.
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>>253688728
Grovyle would be in as a Pokemon Mystery Dungeon rep if he were to get in. It won't happen. but that's the logic.
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>>253696143
>I have no idea why people continue to spread this misinformation
Because the things fucking exist.
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>>253695304
I know! If next months direct is on the sixth I may shit myself. Metroid released on Famicom August sixth. Next month would be one year since Pyrosphere stage reveal. Gotta keep my hopes up.
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>>253696247
Ike's sword is actually pretty standard, he just wields it 1 handed which is pretty fucking badass

Shulk has the generic giant anime sword trope, unless we get Ganondorf's OoT sword and not a clone/WW swords, then shulk will have something going for him
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>>253691369
>>253691224
He was never named in the Pic of the Day that showed his trophy - just referred to as a member of the Wonderful 100. It could be a classic mode trophy.

But he won't be playable. The roster was decided far too long ago.
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>>253696257
Ok. I can't argue that. Gamefaqs at least makes a show of it with the rate their chances polls.
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>>253695979
No he doesn't, he's not a fucking idiot. He knows people would prefer them as playable but it's impossible to include everyone on the roster. ATs exist to show off other Nintendo characters in Smash who would otherwise not show up beyond a regular trophy.
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>>253696143
http://www.smashbros.com/wii/en_us/items/assist/assist12.html
Maybe they're basing it off of the comment about Saki
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>>253695661
Geno has no chance because Square Enix owns him.
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>>253692828
>Kremlings probably won't be part of smash either

Actually, there are Kremlings in Smash Run, along with a 'big Kremling boss' that is confirmed NOT to be K. Rool.
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>>253695871
Yer.
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>>253676712
>on /v/
>Smashfag
i don't know why you made that distinction
you eliminated like 4 people
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>>253676712
Not a bad roster, but honestly all I need is an other F-Zero character to be happy. Letting every series that can potentially have a potential second character get one is fun in my opinion.

This is why I don't mind guys like Ridley, if they can manage to make him interesting.
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>>253696570
Is K.Rool the same?
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>>253696690
>along with a 'big Kremling boss' that is confirmed NOT to be K. Rool.
>tfw the guy was most likely wrong and it was K. Rool
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>>253696105
Dammit, Shulk would be a pretty awesome long range sword weilder. The ether that forms the blue blade would also change colour from blue to green to purple depending on the Monado Art used and this would also change the Monado symbol

It's going to look so cool
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>>253696843
No, Nintendo owns all characters that appear in the DKC series.
They do not own Banjo, Conker, or original characters that appeared in Diddy Kong racing
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>>253696690
I wonder which Kremling it'll be? Klubba would probably be the best choice.

>>253696843
No, Nintendo owns everything from the Rare DK games.
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>>253696843
Nope. nintendo wholly owns K. Rool and all Rare made characters in the DKC games.

But they don't own or they don't fully own everyone new in SMRPG.
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>>253690435
>Air Ride
>bad
ha
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Cut Sanic
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I want to have more gun users in Smash.
We have like 16 Sword users now, and most are just fists. Only a few use guns and only one uses them for most of his moves.

Gimme pirate K. Rool... a heavy character with a mostly projectile based moveset
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>>253697294
Return Snake
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Fuck yeah, Shulk!
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Also it's fishy that they had a pic of the day discussing Yellow Devil from the Megaman reveal less than a month after but we still don't have anything on Ridley. These civil threads bring up my hope, thanks. I should really avoid the shitstorm threads.

If Ridley is playable do you think the Pyrosphere hazard will just be lava, or maybe Nightmare?
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>>253697642
probably both
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>>253697642
Probably just rising lava like every Metroid stage.
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>>253697642
Pyrosphere hazard will be a bigger Ridley, unless Ridley is being played. Then it's MechaRidley
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>>253695182
nah it was Robin or Chrom, Lucina was just a Marth alt costume that Sakurai decided to make her own character (because there's no such thing as 'slots')
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>>253697642
Maybe Phantoon
I think he was the final boss of MOM
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>>253676712
Who the fuk is andy? cut him
also takamaru
FUCK YEAH Ghirah
Put Klonnoa there
Lucina anda Palutena Out
ivysaur and Squirtle Nope
Lucas Nope Put Klaus Instead
BOSS Or Raiden sounds like a cheap new comer there should be Meryl
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>>253697784
Gravity mechanics while dodging lava... lava being tossed around due to the gravity changes. That would be fantastic.
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>>253697931
You know that's another thing that annoys about Ridley potentially being a stage boss. He already got to be a boss twice in Brawl, I would like to fight a lesser known Metroid boss instead. Phantoon or Nightmare would be cool as hell.
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>>253695871
most games support four players, some with asymmetrical gameplay support four plus a fifth player using the gamepad.

We don't know yet if there will be a Wii U exclusive mode to utilize the gamepad, and if there is it won't be announced until after the 3DS version is released and they start revealing the selling points of the Wii U version.
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>>253697914
My problem with Lucina is that she's 1:1 to Marth minus the sweet spot on the sword.

I mean Roy was slower, normal special deal damage to himself and had fire. Hell he even had some of his moves deal different damage from Marth. He was a clone but he felt different even if he was pretty shitty

Lucina is just Marth
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>>253697642
There was a picture floating around pointing out some strange pylons/objects at the corners of the Pyrosphere stage that weren't there in Other M or DoA. Those could be the real hazard. It would also explain why Pyrosphere wasn't playable at E3.
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>>253698309
Well to be fair Sakurai said she just has the same moveset as Marth. I doubt literally the only difference between them is the sword damage.
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>>253697325
>I want to have more gun users in Smash.
Fox
Falco
Diddy
Samus
Megaman
Mii
Snake
ZSSamus
If you wanna count all projectile beam users gotta throw in Rob too.

>Sword users
Marth
Ike
Lucina
Robin kinda
Link Kinda
Pit Kinda

I'm mad that there are more fist users in the game than anyone else.

Seriously fuck right out of here with your bullshit.
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>>253698384
Well I'd like to see, if anyone has it.
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>>253698534
>Snake
>Returning

top kek m8
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>>253698485
I sure hope not, I really hope some of her specials will be different, but he speed and weight are the same as Marth's.

She will most likely have her own Final Smash though
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>>253696510
It's also a way for some (not all) future newcomers to be 'on deck' for Smash. Little Mac is the biggest example, but I'd be surprised if there isn't at least one more graduate newcomer.
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>>253698534
How is Link only kinda a sword user? Also you missed Toon Link, Meta Knight (who will obviously return) and Mii Sword Fighter.
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>>253696872
It was a Nintendo Treehouse rep, if I'm not mistaken. They know their shit and aren't just paid shills.
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>>253698712
Yeah Isaac and Ray could easily have been upgraded.

>>253698692
Well there's still the custom movesets which could help set her further apart.
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>>253697642
fuck lava on every metroid level
the gimmick is fun but one lava level is enough for fuck's sake
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>>253698561
Found it, it's near the bottom
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>>253698032
>who the fuck is Andy?

Summer please leave...please...
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>>253699024
Huh, what the fuck are those? They look like little life pods.
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>>253699024
Whoa wait aerial smash attacks are a thing?

Please tell me this isn't just for him because that would suck.
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>>253698812
Yeah, but still even with those there are more gun users and fist users than sword users.


People need to stop complaining.
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>>253699341
Don't know, they aren't there in Final Destination Pyrosphere.
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>>253687846
Professor Layton is in this game, you mark my fucking words.
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My roster will make more people happy
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>>253699892
I would die of happiness
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So, Sakurai said this in his recent Famitsu column:

"In such cases, even if two characters' names and voices differ, as long as they function the same way, I assign them as alternate costumes. The Wii Fit Trainers, Villagers, and Robin are examples of this setup."

He explains that Lucina being separate from Marth is the exception, not the rule. HOWEVER, the examples he cites (Wii Fit Trainer, Robin, Villager) have different models and voices but NOT different names. Having a different name would imply a separate character more akin to the Lucina/Marth relationship rather than simply a gender swap.

So what differently named/voiced/modeled characters are making it in as alternate costumes?
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>>253700071
>Cranky Kong
that would be great
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>>253699892
3rd party
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>>253700168
Daisy could work very easily for Peach.
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>>253700168
K. Rool with a Wart alt.
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Unrelated to thread but does anyone have a harger render of Captain Falcon?
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>>253700168
Dry Bowser, Funky Kong, Dixie.
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>>253700168
Daisy for Peach
Dixie for Diddy
Mewtwo for Lucario
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>>253699024
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

If I spend this much time explaining why Ashley is CLEARLY playable, even after being confirmed as an Assist, I'd get shat all over.

But with Ridley, it's totally fine.
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>>253700290
fuck, you're right, there are no 3rd party characters in Smash
sorry
carry on
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>>253700562
Ashley was directly confirmed as an assist trophy.
Ridley's shadow was shown. Ridley's name wasn't even mentioned.
Only "other boss characters may appear on stages"
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>>253700562
but Sakurai has said "Ashley is an Assist Trophy" and shown her off.

he has not shown Ridley or mentioned him by name (deliberately avoiding naming a character is something he did for Palutena prior to her announcement)

and Ridley's the most requested character
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>>253700562
Yeah because he saw her and Sakurai clearly said what she was. We didn't see a loli shadow on a WarioWare stage with nearly a year of teasing. Don't pretend it's somehow comparable.
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>>253700770
Sonic - iconic video game icon that even casuals can recognize, revealed prior to release to generate hype
Pac-Man - iconic video game icon that even casuals can recognize, revealed prior to release to generate hype
Megaman - iconic video game icon that even casuals can recognize, revealed prior to release to generate hype

Snake got in as a favor to Kojima and he won't be back in Smash 4.

use your brain
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>>253700435
here you go >>253668163
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>>253700290
Nintendo has published all the Professor Layton games in the US/EU and the character himself has only appeared on Nintendo systems (I know of the Layton Bros series which is unrelated).

Nintendo may as well just own him
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>>253701137
>in the US/EU
>may as well just

You're grasping for straws. Layton would be a great addition but he's just not very likely. He's just as much third party as Geno.
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>>253700801
>and Ridley's the most requested character
Where do you people keep pulling this shit from?

>>253700809
It's NOT fucking teasing. He's a boss character appearing on a stage.
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>>253700543

>Mewtwo for Lucario
>implying they're even slightly similar
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>>253700928
holy fuck how dense can you be. Some asshole said Layton wouldnt be in because he's 3rd party when there are obviously 3rd party characters already present

I forget how autistic /v/ can actually be
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Am I the only one still hyped for Pac-Man?

Every time I see screenshots of him I feel a burst of joy
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>>253701137
Ashley from Trace Memory got a trophey, Layton could get one too.
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>>253701414
>All this delusion
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