So is this cunt the first true clone in Kerfuffle so far, and do you think we'll get more characters like her that are similar enough to be a clone but a new character (eg Dark Pit)
Toon Link is Luigified, and Luigi is as much a Mario clone at this point as Rosalina is a Peach clone.
Toon Link is as much a clone as Lucina.
Smaller, quicker, exact same moves, just dressed up differently.
Stop spamming /v/ with ssb. We already have 20 threads you fucks.
>Toon Link is Luigified, and Luigi is as much a Mario clone at this point as Rosalina is a Peach clone.
The sheer stupidity of this comment hurts my head.
>>253276367
>3 different aerials
>Different properties on 3/4 of his specials
>Different hitboxes
Toon Link is Luigified mate.
>>253276246
Why call her a cunt? Go fuck yourself.
>>253276589
All those can be said about Lucina, 'mate'.
>>253276246
10 seconds of gameplay and she also wears blue clothing. Clone, right?
>>253276606
One calls a cunt if oneself is cunt.
>>253276728
>exact same moves
>not a clone
>hating on glorious lucina
I bet you wanted those Choir kids or that jrpg fagboy nobody knows instead.
>>253276246
>Toon Link is Luigified, and Luigi is as much a Mario clone at this point as Rosalina is a Peach clone.
TL still shares most of his normals and all his specials. Luigi also shares most of his normals with Mario. Peach and Rosalina are completely different characters.
>>253276678
So far she shares all the same moves as Marth, just like a Melee clone.
>>253276728
>Sakurai confirms she is more or less the same thing as Marth except weight, size, and sword properties
SHE HAS UNIQUE MOVES GUYS
Lucina defense force is here today.
I think it's reasonable to assume Lucina will be the only such clone. They have male and female Villager, WFT, Robin, and Miis. It's reasonable to include Girl Marth.
Theoretically they could do it with Pac-Man, but I don't see it happening since he's third party.
>Toon Link is Luigified, and Luigi is as much a Mario clone at this point as Rosalina is a Peach clone.
Ow, my head can't deal with the sheer level of stupidity.
>>253277045
>Being a retard.
It meansLuigi isn't a clone of Mario anymore
How many fire enblem characters are in now? Four?
She has been proven to have a different nair, so that must mean something
How can you say their clones, when every character now has 12 moves?
Sure some would be a given, like the Links have bombs, bows, etc. But even then, they could be different. Say Toon Link and regular Link have a Fire Arrow move swap. Regular Links causes and explosion, causing large damage while the arrow travels slowly. Toon Link could have a quicker Fire Arrow, dealing small damage, but "burning" the enemy and doing small percentages of damage at a time.
Just stuff like that, having variations in clones that fit the character is what sets them apart. Toon Link is smaller, so while the opponent is burned, he can run up and deal damage on them because he's quicker than Link. Link is slower, and focuses more on heavy damage, so amply, he would have a powerful projectile.
Toon Link is just as similar to Link as she is to Marth. Stop being retarded.
Every fucking fighting game in existence has clones. You'd know this if you had ever played any besides Smash. The Smash fanbase is the only one that complains about them. Everyone else knows that the devs have deadlines to meet, and it's a way to add characters that otherwise wouldn't have made it into the game.
>>253276896
But we don't know how much is exactly the same if anything at all.
DAILY REMINDER that Pit didn't have a Dark Pit costume at the demo.
>>253277586
This exactly. Custom movesets lets us make clones and semi-clones more distinct for our personal preferences.
Unless sakurai gets lazy and makes their custom moves the same...
>>253277586
Theyre still clones bro. They dont have to be identical. When you take one character, and alter them to make a new one, it's still an altered version of that character. Even giving them a few unique moves and animations doesnt change that. Maybe there needs to be another term for it, but it still falls in line with what people mean when they say clone.
theyre like the equivalent of Sonic recolor OC sprites.
>>253279918
Up b takes her at more of an angle, different
n air hits twice and back once, different
sword has different properties
and we don't know if the other specials have diferent properties or not yet
i'm not going to analyze every move but there's two already
>>253276246
She is an improved Roy.
Faster and good aerials, while you play her aggressive, like Roy was intended to played.
>>253280141
No they're not. Sonic OCs are OC Donut Steels, Smash clones are existing characters made to play similarly.
>>253276876
>Wanting a clone over original characters
Anon I would of preferred anything over what we got, I would be fine with luc if she had her own moveset.
>>253280909
youre taking something existing, giving it a new coat of paint and altering things to make something new. its not original, its a tweaked version of something existing. theres a reason I specified sonic oc SPRITES.
>>253276749
STOP CALLING HER A CUNT YOU IDIOT.
>>253281275
>Robin has an original moveset that looks interesting and fun
>the Cap is back
>Lucina got in without wasting much time and resources
How was yesterday anything but fucking amazing?
>>253281603
STOP GETTING OFFENDED A FICTIONAL CHARACTER IS BEING CALLED A CUNT YOU AUTIST
>>253281695
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Dixie Kong and K. Rool double reveal, Dixie will be a clone like Lucina to Diddy but she will have her ponytail propeller as her recovery and bubblegum guns instead of peanut guns
>>253277586
This has been bugging me actually. What if Lucina's specials ARE different, but she can use Marth's through moveset customization? Sakurai is on full troll-mode for kerfluffle. It seems like he'd try to rile everyone up about a clone.
>>253281603
lol is he serious guys?
>>253276246
The funny thing is, Lucina in Smash 4 is actually accurate lore wise. They mention that she fights similar to Marth. She's literally just Female Marth.
That's why I didn't want Lucina in because there was no way she wouldn't end up being a clone.
Chrom at least had the potential of being an in-between of Ike and Marth.
>>253281695
So you're telling me that you have never gotten annoyed by someone disrespecting a character you like?
>>253282717
Yes
>>253282595
I just wished her idle animation was the same fighting pose like in Awakening.
>>253282717
Pretty much. because they're not real.
>>253282816
You are a filthy fucking liar.
>>253282932
Nope
THANKS SAKURAI, ANOTHER SPOT TAKEN BY A USELESS, SOULLESS CHARACTER THAT NOBODY WANTED, NOT EVEN EMBLEMFAGS.
>>253282881
So if people watch a movie and cry during a sad scene they are retarded becauseits all not real? Stop posting.
>>253283197
>So if people watch a movie and cry during a sad scene they are retarded
Yes
>>253282985
Look, Lucina is not a cunt, so I have the right to tell you to fuck off.
>>253283376
Sure man and I have the right to tell you you're an idiot for getting all buttmad about it.
That's one retarded sword design
People bitch, but we'd have just as much butthurt going around if Lucina had just replaced Marth entirely.
>>253283302I bet you fap to anime characters faggot.
B-but different damage levels!
>>253278442
Nobody cares about other fighting games.
Smash Bros is a party game anyway.
>>253283376
But she is a cunt
Your waifu is also a slut
She isn't a clone and you can eat all the dicks in america because FE is a good game. It's about time nintendo stopped pretending it exists.
NEW ADVANCE WARS WHEN?
>>253283197
Theres a difference between crying over a scene in a movie, because in that movie, youre invested in that world, and its within that world you see that shit happen. but when a real person calls a fictional character a cunt, its COMPLETELY different, and not worth being upset over.
Needs more FeMU x Lucina
Why are you all assuming she's a clone?
>>253283376
and youre getting pissed someone called a non existent person a name, so we have the right to tell you you're being stupid as fuck.
>>253282148
New age of FE waifufags
I can't fucking wait to destroy all you little whiney bitches with girl Marth. Shit's gonna be so good
>>253276246
Don't know enough about Lucina yet to say she's 100% the same, that's a retarded unfounded statement. The likelihood is that she is as different as Falco is from Fox. By the looks of what we could see, she seems faster and therefore better than Marth.
That's all you can really say at this point, we're yet to see her fully in action. Ignore retards screaming she's exactly the same, we don't know that yet so its just shitposting.
>>253283674
She is a clone. quit deluding yourself.
I really don't understand the hate for clones. They probably take up barely any development time, and they're a way to include some fan-favorite characters who otherwise wouldn't have been included.
That being said, I could have lived without Lucina. 3 Fire Emblem characters is more than enough.
The only clone that really bothers me is Ganondorf, just because he has so many potential moves from the Zelda games.
>>253283246
what the fuck is her problem
>>253276246
I used to main Marth in Brawl and Roy in Melee. I'm definitely going to try Lucina and see which I prefer out her and Marth.
>faster, even weaker Marth
Marth is already pretty weak tho
I'm just gonna stick to Ike anyways, but I'll try Lucina out. Robin looks neat
I can't wait until Rosalina, Lucina, Palutena, Samus, Zelda, WFT, and Peach are the best characters in the game by far.
>>253283832
Do you know anything about the character? have you seen her vid? it would be stupid to assume she ISNT a clone. In fact, it would almost be stupid if they made her 100% original, given the character is masquerading as Marth, she needs to move like the character she is pretending to be.
>>253283674
Advance Wars is dead anon
It's never coming back
>>253283705
That doesn't make sense. In the movie, they're a fictional character too. Also, why cant people be invested in a world outside of a movie?
>>253276246
What if they're trying to brace us for the biggest announcement of all?
There will be a Rule 63 of every roster member!
>>253283924
>better than Marth
I'd disagree, despite it being too early to tell. Tipper hits with Marth are essential for early kills. Something that Samurai said has been removed from her abilities.
>>253283832
Because she has marth's moveset
There aren't any assumptions being made
>>253283924
>Don't know enough about Lucina yet to say she's 100% the same, that's a retarded unfounded statement.
They dont have to be the exact same to be clones, its not retarded at all.
>The likelihood is that she is as different as Falco is from Fox. By the looks of what we could see, she seems faster and therefore better than Marth.
Falco was still a clone. just like Roy was a clone, and kid link and Luigi and Pichu and so on.
>>253276589
All the clones have moves that look the same with different properties. Toon Link's tilts, throws, specials and smashes are all still visually identical to Link's.
>>253283885
Why would you enjoy that
Marth is a good character, beating people with good characters is not out of the ordinary
When I played Marth in the demo, I felt his speed was nerfed significantly from Brawl. He's not a fast or agile character now.
>Andy will never join the brawl
>>253284520
it seems rather than what most people were expecting (Chrom being a middle-ground newcomer) they made Marth the middle-ground and Lucina the fast one.
http://strawpoll.me/2119600
Gematsu is dead. Anything is possible. Vote now.
>>253284167
sjw pls go
>>253276678
Pretty sure the only difference is her sweet spot isn't the tip of her sword, but the entire length of the sword. Sakurai literally described her as easy mode Marth.
>>253284682
>Pretty sure the only difference is her sweet spot isn't the tip of her sword, but the entire length of the sword
Hot
>>253284273
It makes perfect sense. in the context of the movie, the character being insulted hears it. they react to it. and you can empathise because you actually see them feel the effects of what someone does to them.
but that doesnt happen if a real person calls a fictional character a name. Lucina isnt real. she cant have her feelings hurt by a real person calling her a cunt. theyre not comparable, and its stupid to think its on the same level, and its stupid to get upset about. youre making yourself look crazy.
>>253284595
>No Simon.
>>253281695
A man has a right to defend his wiafu on the Internet.
>>253284595
>No Layton
I hate you with every fiber of my being
>>253276246
It's funny, though. I'll probably play her more than Marth. That sword tip shit was cool, but not for me.
>>253284215
IS already said they have plans for FE and AW during E3.
>>253284849
gay.
>>253276246
I just came to the realization that this 'stance' is stupid as fuck
who the fuck holds a sword like this I could just smack it out of her hands for being a dumb bitch
>>253284682
why are you declaring what the only difference is when we barely know anything about the character? We saw a few attacks at best.
she's cute when she's angry
>>253284759
Ah I see, it makes sense now. I think it's pointless to get upset either way, but I didn't understand your reasoning it until now.
>>253284849
and we have the right to call him an idiot for it.
>>253284897
>advance wars
I thought it was named after the system it was on? Color wars, gameboy wars, advance wars. Next game is probably 3D wars.
>>253285007
Because sakurai said
>>253284326
I will happily accept female Ike.
>>253284989
you can blame her father
>>253284897
They never really said that
They said the canned response that every developer has on the subject of sequels to other IPs
Because they were asked by a journalist in the middle of showing the Steampunk thing
>>253276246
At least the clones in Brawl were very, very Luigi-fied. So far she looks like she has the exact same moveset in Marth with different properties.
>>253284989
This and why the fuck does the sword have a huge gaping hole near the hilt
>>253285110
Kind of is. It's still funny that Battalion Wars is still called Famicom Wars
>>253285172
>lopsided leggings
>>253284989
>who the fuck holds a sword like this I could just smack it out of her hands for being a dumb bitch
Well the Cap did just that.
>>253285281
>This and why the fuck does the sword have a huge gaping hole near the hilt
VIDEO
GAMES
>>253276246
>thinking Luigi and Toon Link aren't clones>thinking Falco won't be back
Damn, FE:A is so casual even its rep is one too.
>>253285401
No he didn't
He parried the blade with his fist
And then kicked her in the face
>>253285007
Sakurai fucking said it himself, dipshit. It was on one his miiverse posts.
>>253277586
Custom moves can't be used online, and customization in general has always been a bad idea in fighters.
>>253285576
>parried the blade with his fist
is there anyone more manly?
>>253285427
Because sword sexaegislash confirmed
>>253285618
>>253285116
he said they're identical, he didn't say that was the exclusive difference between them
stop reading things that aren't there dipshits
>>253285401
That panel is perfect
>>253285698
Jigglypuff
>Can learn Special Atk moves
>Pound, Sing, Rollout and Rest instead
>>253285698
Yes
Because 'No' isn't in Captain Falcon's vocabulary
>>253285967
I want her to sit on my face
>>253285861
>>253285919
This shit feels kinda like the katana gif but for monks, you know the one.
>>253286215
>Captain Falcon is secretly an actual monk
>He can throw a needle through a pane of glass, but chooses to use his fists anyway because they're cooler
>>253284682
the fact that marth's damage is concentrated in an area that allows him to keep himself as far away as possible make him the easiest mode character already
>>253285057
She's cuter when she'sdead
>>253276460
>he's never heard about japan time
>>253286504
>>253286453
wait what, there were people who though Marth was a difficult character to use? The tip was what made him so easy to do well with. At least characters like Jigglypuff demanded a lot of skill to be good with.
>>253286592
Perfect
mmm death
>>253276246
>Toon Link is Luigified, and Luigi is as much a Mario clone at this point as Rosalina is a Peach clone.
Cool way to rationalize your hate.
You have no proof lucina is more of a clone than any of those you mentioned. SPECIALLY toon link
>>253284046
Supreme Electra complex.
Imma post the whole conversation cause I'm not playing waifu defense.
>>253287335
god damn
I never played FeMU but holy shit she wants to fuck her Father
>2014
>people are still against clones
>>253287529
she does
>>253278442
FGC also complains about clones as well.
Ryu Ken and Akuma is not so bad, because you play then differently, especially in recent incarnations. Sakura also plays in her own way. Gouken purposely changes the way the moves work, like vertical hurricane kicks, and horizontal drangon punches.Dan is a joke character. Sean as well.
But then you start getting stuff like Evil Ryu, and Oni, releasing at the same time. When everyone I listed here except for Sean is on one game, people get pissed off because of more deserving slots being taken up.
Point is, Lucina has her purpose. There are people that want Roy back, and it seems that Lucina is gonna fill that role. I assume she's gonna have the middle of the blade does more damage gimmick that Roy had. I'm sure Marth still has his tip of the blade gimmick. He still had it in Brawl.also, smash is a fighter? lel
>>253287726
it's not going to be the middle blade. Her entire sword swing is fixed damage.
>>253284529
maybe in smash 6
>>253287851
When did we learn that?
>>253287932
todays pic of the day
>>253287932
Sakurai's miiverse
>>253287726
>I assume she's gonna have the middle of the blade does more damage gimmick that Roy had. I'm sure Marth still has his tip of the blade gimmick
Nah, Sakurai said on Miiverse that she'll have no sweetspot on her blade, the whole thing just does consistant damage. Marth though, yeah, is confirmed to still do more damage near the tip
>>253288009
>>253288053
baller
>>253285837
He literally said there are enough differences to make her require a slot of herself.
>>253284529
>dat hyper generic design
Sami all the way
>>253287542
The only clone i'm against is ganondorf, he deserves his own unique moveset
they could give the old ganondorf moveset to black shadow
>>253287726
>Ryu Ken and Akuma is not so bad, because you play then differently, especially in recent incarnations. Sakura also plays in her own way. Gouken purposely changes the way the moves work, like vertical hurricane kicks, and horizontal drangon punches.Dan is a joke character. Sean as well.
All clones in Brawl played differently. I don't know to much about Melee clones but I know Falco, Roy, and Ganondorf palyed very differently from the "originals"
>>253288378
That's reasonable. As long as his moveset stays in the game I don't give a fuck.
>>253284529
>You will never beat the shit out of Toon Link with Andy's dual wrenches
>>253288384
Ganondorf is a different, but still familiar, case.
It's like Toon Link not having a different moveset despite Phantom Hourglass, Wind Waker and Spirit Tracks or some other games existing.
Ganondorf has more than enough games for him to have his own moveset but instead he's a Falcon Clone, which sounds even lazier than making a Bird clone of a vulpine
>>253288384
pichu wasn't relevant enough for people to care, dr. mario played like a heavier hitting mario and his forward air was more important for getting kills if i recall correctly
with lucina, her attacks are probably going to be doing more damage than a non sweetspotted marth attack, though marth will probably be better if only because good marth players can land tip very consistently
>>253288378
This. Ever since Melee it bugged me that Ganon copies Capn' Falcon. Give that moveset to Black Shadow, and give Ganon his own shit.Give him some sword play, magic balls that can be deflected back and forth, SOMETHING ganon like.
>>253288718
Actually, to put it into MAXIMUM perspective:
The second most iconic Nintendo villain is a clone of a character who existed to show off Mode 7, and whose moveset itself is just the sloppy leftovers of the game BEFORE it was Smash Bros
>>253276246
Probably have a fuckton of clones tacked on at the end of development or as DLC, so they can sell more amiibos
>>253286407
>Shaolin monk who decides to become a badass racer bounty hunter because he wants to be cool
10/10 would read/watch
>>253286990
Only the ignorant assume Lucina wont be a clone.
>>253288347
So then she's more of a simi-clone? (if you can call her that)
>>253289318
She is a clone. The real issue here is how similar she is to her original counterpart.
Luigi, Lucas and TLink are okay clones
>>253289318
For what we have seen she is as much of a clone as SSB4 Toon Link
>>253289318
>People just made up "semi-clone" because they don't want people to disrespect their waifu
>And it's catching on
jesus fuck
>>253289547
All clones in Brawl are OK clones, besides Ganondorf and if that moveset was on Black Shadow or Blood Falcon then that would be an OK clone too.
>>253289686
No, from what we've seen so far she's as much of a clone as Dr. Mario
Or, you know, Roy
>>253289696
No I have no problem with her being a full out clone. I was just responding to him saying
>enough differences to make her require a slot of herself
Had me thinking if she was or not.
>>253288880
>>253288880
if the next reveal was black shadow & ganondorf my dick would be so hard
>>253290123
Sakurai thinks some moves having different stats is enough of a difference
We have three previous games worth of proof
>>253278442
Playstation All Stars only has one clone, and thats because Suckerpunch told them they had to have two Coles if they wanted to use him.
>>253289781
So probably faster/lighter then Roy. but weak on damage?
>>253278442
The problem isnt complaining about clones, the problem is people in denial that they ARE clones.
>>253290151
>Villains Trailer in the next reveal
>Bowser
>Ridley
>Ganon
>Black Shadow
Post yfw
>>253290151
>Falcon in the next trailer
>he rushes at Ganondorf
>"FAAAALCOOOONEEEE"
>"HYAAARRRRRR--"
>Black Shadow interrupts with his Shadow Punch
>trailer shows Black Shadow's cloneness and Ganondorf's ENTIRELY NEW MOVESET
>>253290452
I dunno, it seems like the obvious way to go
If her being a clone gives the chance of Dr.Mario coming back then.
Do it Sakruai.
Interestingly, that guy purporting to update on the gematsu leak here yesterday got blow the fuck out in less than 12 hours. thanks sakurai
>>253290550
I swear to god I've seen this image posted like ten times in the past 24 hours
>>253290904
Uhhh, that's because you're in /v/: the fastest board in 4chan?
>that fucking felling when
>>253290310
He was also the only case of two reps from the same game til the zues dlc. Its funny how people looked at PSAS roster and said "haha, look at how few franchises Sony has" and then you actually compare the roster to Brawl and remove all cases of clones and different reps for the same franchises.
Its not too shabby considering Smash Bros was three games in at that point.
>>253291054
Isnt /b/ the fastest?
>>253291054
What does that have to do with the exact same non-vidya image that has no relevance to anything being posted so many times in such a short timeframe
>>253291451
Not according to statistics
>>253291313
>ike is a clone
fucking what, he plays nothing like marth or any other character, he's completely unique
>>253291602
Mind if you post the statistics?
>>253291641
maybe he was confused with Roy since he replaced him.
>>253276367
Yup
>>253291313
man seeing brawl's roster and looking back at the Smash 4's current and maybe upcoming roster. It feels so puny
>>253291641
>>253291787
>They have a counter and they both go up with their sword with Up and B CLONE CLONE CLOOOOOONE
>>253291787
Sometimes i wonder if it's a case where people don't actually try out all the characters
>>253291641
He's probably one of those "muh blue haired sword user" faggots
>>253290550
The only way that could be better was if it had Andross
>>253291641
I havent played much of Brawl, but people deny clones so much I dont know if I should take your word on that or not.
>>253291919
This was posted before and people tried to deny Falco was a clone, so yeah, I have no idea who to believe.
>>253276589
Melee Ganondorf was the same way, possibly aside from the hitboxes
>>253292193
I just hope that whatever they do with Ganondorf in this game, they fix his run animation so it isn't Brawl's.
Fucker ran like he had donuts in his pants
fixed it. doesnt change the final number though.
>>253283376
m8 I waifu'd Lucina in my FE:A game and even I think you're being retarded
>clone of a nerfed character
>>253292362
>No blue dot on Snake
Step it up, man.
>>253292342
his running animation amused the fuck out of me in brawl. He looked so stubby.
>>253291912
You know, anon. Sometimes, rival characters are better than villains. With rivals, not only do you have a character that antagonizes the main character, you prevent presenting a character that can cause a massive spoiler
Also, Mother 3 Masked Man when?
>>253291692
https://catalog.neet.tv/stats.html
http://archive.foolz.us/q/thread/51584
Also, boku no spoonfeeding
>>253292550
Who is snake a clone of?
>>253291919
Ike is literally nothing like any other character
You would know that if you've even seen him ever
>>253292124
>>253291919
go back and play it, he's nothing like marth aside from having down b as a counter, all his moves are original and unique, unless you want to say that every character with down b as a counter then i guess lucario and greninja are marth clones
it's like saying peach and mario are clones because they're from the same franchise
>>253292657
Big Boss
>>253292657
Kojima
>>253291313
>Wolf is a clone
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>253292662
>>253292685
It was a simple mistake, its been fixed. I appreciate pointing it out.
>>253292657
it's a joke, in the games he's a clone of his "father"
>>253292362
>Mewtwo
>Clone
Very funny Anon.
>>253292809
is he not?
>>253284092
This. But I wish it was a different character because 2 FE:A reps seems like too many, even if one is a clone.
>>253276246
stay mad op stay mad
>>253283376
Lucina is also a fictional character.
>>253292997
He isn't.
No one gives a fucking shit about final smashes, his normals are unique and his specials do completely different shit than Fox's ones.
>>253292937
Aren't they cousins?
>>253276606
>people like this exist
end it
>>253293261
you're thinking of Owain
>>253293179
people deny falco is a clone too, you make it sound like he still borrows plenty from fox.
>>253293472
Oh, right. My bad.
Still, Owain and Lucina have S social links even though they are cousins if I remember correctly
>>253276246
This is what I wanted:everyone is Luigified(like two moves are copied max and no same final smash), no trio of similar movesets(Starfox became the shoto clones for gods sake), and unique ganondorf.
At this point, toon link + Lucina has has made all my fears likely. God dammit.
>>253287680
Whoa what part of the game is that from?
>>253293852
Yeah. They get labeled as "companions" after it though, don't they?
why is her taste in clothes so cute?
>>253293876
the challenge DLC roster rescue
>>253293536
http://www.ssbwiki.com/clone
>Many newer and/or less knowledgeable players tend to assume Fox and Wolf are semi-clones, or even full clones, due to their special moves and Final Smash being similar (if not identical) in name and mostly identical in operation. However, closer inspection of their full movesets shows that even calling them semi-clones is difficult to rationalize, as the characters' physics are radically different, none of their standard attacks are similar, and even their similarly named special moves aren't exactly cloned moves (their neutral and up specials both function, animate, and look differently).
I dont see why are guys complaining
Unlike Ganondorf, it makes sense for Lucina to be a clone
You all realize if Lucina is a clone that means Marth has been buffed since the demo right
Sakurai explicitly said they are identical besides the sword and height
>>253293179
Alright fixed again. this accurate now?
>>253280031
DAILY REMINDER that the demo didn't have all the costumes
>>253294121
i hope it means his strength has been buff since he's slower now.
>>253294120
Anon, you think people hate clones in general on a case by case basis?
>>253294000
Can you get text like that to pop up in the normal story missions?
>>253293876
more people need to play the challenge DLC maps
>Characters can get movesets done out of a scratch
ok
>Clones are perfectly acceptable
ok
>Characters who appeared in single game can get in
ok
>Waluigi was just over the line
Not ok
It's fucking pointless to discuss which characters are clones when custom move sets exist.
>>253294445
Don't you have to pay for the Challenge DLC though?
>>253294434
yes if you're in a cutscene/support or characters talking to each other in battle.
List of clones in the whole series for reference
>Dr. Mario
>Roy
>Ganondorf
>Luigi
>Fox
>Pichu
>Young Link
>Snake
>Toon Link
>Lucina
>>253293980
Yeah I suppose
>>253276460
B-but, there is nothing else to talk about!
m-muh Nintendo!
>>253294739
>Snake
>No Falco
Yes I'm mad
>>253294502
Except custom is banned online, and who's to say clones don't have the same customs anyway.
why is FeMU so adorable?
>>253294739
>Snake
Who is he a clone of?
Also Young Link and Toon Link are essentially the same character, barring the artstyles.
>>253295091
>>253294931
Snake is a clone of Big Bossu.
>>253295167
>>253295037
>tfw can't forbidden love with FeMU
man there are surprisingly very few good fanart of Lucina and Robin after the announcement.
Then again it's probably because they're too busy flocking about how amazing Captain Falcon is. Surprised Pixiv didn't draw a lot on the case.
