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>Physical DLC >Pay to win Defend this.
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>Physical DLC
>Pay to win

Defend this.
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you can see peach's underpants.
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>>252271114
>does not open new content in game
>cannot be used online
>figurine of a character I like and could decorate my desk with

Defender II is superior to Defender
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It's okay when Nintendo does it!
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>physical downloadable content
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>Defend this.

Physical rosalina
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>>252271114
No. I'm a "Nintenyearold" and am very much against it.
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>"toy"
>zero articulation
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>Downloading a tangible object
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Finally, dlc that you can hotglue
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>>252271114
I love to eat whatever nintendo shits out
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>Physical downloadable content
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>>252271114
>pay to win

No it's not.
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>>252271114
I'm not going to. Printing all of them day1.
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>>252271296
ROSIE. GLASSES.


MY DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiIiiiiicCcccckkkkKkkkkkk
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>>252271114
It's not DLC, it's a CPU that you can train with.
It's not pay to win, it's a CPU that you can train with.

There, defended.
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>>252271195
A compelling point
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>>252271114

i don't understand perfectly what amiibo does
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>>252271114
>Physical DLC
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>Ray won't be in Smash
>no Custom Robo figures ever
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I'll try my best, OP.

>Physical DLC
There's no such thing.
>Pay to win
It isn't.
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>Pay to win.
How will this help me win if I'm not playing, if I'm not playing I can't win. This is more of a novelty than dlc. It's optional and doesn't unlock anything new. Plus you can't use it online or in the single player modes as far as I know.
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The fuck is physical DLC
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it's just a memory card if i wasn't lied to
you can get the same stuff but it's not as easy to transport
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But I'm not buying Amiibo, anon
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>>252271114
How much is it?
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>>252271747
You buy a physical thing to download content.
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>>252271114
But the amiibos are CPU controlled
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>>252271114
So uneducated
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How could you possibly win with this
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>>252271919
"Comparable to Skylanders"

so between 10 and 15 ameribux
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>>252271114
>>252271271
nobodys forcing anyone to buy it, and it does nothing aside from being an upgraded local CPU opponent.
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B-but It's okay when Nintendo does it!
> mfw the same people who shit on Skylanders and Disney infinity will defend and buy these
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>>252271114
>shitposting

Defend this.
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>>252271114
>Physical downloadable content

YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A CAR!?
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>>252272121
Who shits on Skylanders and Infinity?
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>>252271948
It doesn't download content, it stores data that the game can read, rewrite, and recreate. It's more like a memory card.
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>>252272160
fuck you. i would if i could.
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>>252271271
>>252272121
Why do I keep seeing this all around /v/ now? I saw it when people mentioned Bravely Default censorship and now I'm seeing this in here.
Is this the new le epic meempost or something?
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>>252271718
It's a Nintendo Tomogatchi.
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i'm cool with it.
I don't really see myself using them, but I don't have anything against it. It's not like Skylanders where you HAVE to buy the toys to make the game function.
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Would look neat on my shelf, probably only way to get a game and watch figurine, and I have the artistic abilities of a tentacle monster who is bad at art.
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>>252272121
What part of completely optional, local-only, CPU opponent do you not understand, retard?
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>Physical DLC
it doesnt even download anything when you buy it
>Pay to win
you can't take your amiibo online, only local battles

this might be the dumbest thread ever.....of all time
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How is an ai partner pay to win physical Dlc.
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>>252272348
I feel like almost everyone will be compelled to buy at least one, and I predict those Peach figures will disappear in a day.
Who wants to bet that Nintendo makes Super Princess Peach 2 after that?
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>>252271956

so they can fight against you? and gain knowledge of how you play to beat you? sounds cool
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>>252272121
>skylanders REQUIRES you to buy the toys to even play most of the game
>Disney Infinity requires the toys, but hasn't tried to sell 4 different versions of the game
>These things just store information and look nice

you have to admit it's not nearly as bad as the alternatives.
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>>252271114
> Physical DLC
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>>252272292
I figured it's mostly parroting since it applies to a lot of other things, so people use it like a buzzword at any chance they get.

I mean you could say this about Sonyfags defending paying for PSN+ to go online, Valvefags defending some of Steam's practices, or even Nintendofags defending bravely default censorship, but most of it's just apply the usual epic maymayes.
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>>252271195
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>>252271956
But that means its optional, doesn't hurt me at all, doesn't take away from the game, and doesn't give me a advantage in the game either.

Which means they have no point..........for now.
BUT WE ALL KNOW COMPANIES DON'T DO THIS UNLESS THEY CAN SCREW THE GAMER SOMEHOW, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A TRAP SET BY NINTENDO!
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>>252272564
Yeah, you basically train them and take them to cockfights. Like Pokemon, or a fighting tomogachi. The same figure can also be used for multiple games if the character is already in the game, like using Mario characters in Smash and Mario Kart.
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>>252271195
Underrated post.
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>>252271195
/thread
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>>252271114
>can't use it online
>must have bad friends if they used the aiimbo with each other unless they both agree to use it

/done

I don't even an own a wiiu
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>>252272245
YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD YOUR DICK INTO MY MOM!?
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>Physical DLC

>Jumbo shrimp

>Alone together

>Deafening silence
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>>252272245
you can print a car
>http://www.wired.com/2014/03/edag-3-d-printed-car/
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>>252272446

>Jokes on you, I was only pretending to be retarded, you got trolled LOL XD
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>>252272121
>> mfw the same people who shit on Skylanders and Disney infinity will defend and buy these

This implies the above are discussed in the first place. Why do people put no effort into bait as of 2011?
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>>252272564
It's mostly why I think they're neat
>E3 2015
>showing off new games
>bring out ken after he figures out how to git gud at Smash 4
>unveils a table full of Marth Amiibos
>everyone there gets one, gets to train against Ken and his Marth firsthand
>CPU literally pulling ken combo bullshit on you in order for you to learn to git gud
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>>252272292
When new hardware of some kind appears, people expect the worst possible outcome without understanding what the hardware even is.
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>>252271114
>can't use competitively
>supposedly better AI for playing alone/with friends
I know I'll get one since I'll be playing alone.
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>>252272914
whats he pretending? That is the truth. It doesnt download anything, and you can't take these things online,
>DLC
>pay 2 win
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>>252272292
Because double standards

>Bravely Default censored
It's okay, not like you look at their hot, sexy bodies anyway
>covers Tharja's ass
I play it for the gameplay, not because mai waifu. who likes asses anyways? You poop from there
>Criminal Girls censored
IT'S OVER NISA IS FINISHED FUCK LOCALIZATION
>Shinovi Versus censored
WHAT HAPPENED WITH MUH TITTIES. NEVER BUYING ANY MARVELOUS GAMES AGAIN FUCK THAT PUSSY FAGGOT COMPANY
>Skylanders
LOL PAY @ WIN WHAT A FUCKING JEWWWW
>Disney Infinity
MORE LIKE JEWSNEY JEWFINITY LELELELELE
>Amiibo
Glorious Nintendo will buy 10/10
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>>252272952
Because even crappy shitposting guarantees 60 replies.
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>>252272538
>peach
>not rosalina
>not Super Princess Rosalina: Moonbase Alpha
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>>252271195
They're boring bloomers, who gives a fuck
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>>252273128
Because Amiibos are different.
You don't unlock the characters by buying them. You just access additional content.
It's literally exactly like the Pokemon Rumble U NFC figures (which nobody seems to know about).
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>>252271114
It's a goddamn IRL Smash trophy

You put it down on the gamepad and the shit comes to life

I'm probably only getting one or two but damn nigga shit's cool

And it's not DLC, it's a side thing like the Idol Cards in KIU
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So they're finally gonna go the Skylanders route with Pokemon, right? RIGHT?

They want my money, RIGHT?
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>>252271114
>pay2win

It's actually pay2lose.
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>>252273302
It's literally like Skylander toys. Whether or not Nintendo uses them to unlock in game content is to be seen, but seeing how consumers have accepted Skylander and Disney Infinity they would be stupid not to do it.
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>>252273128
>>Criminal Girls censored
>IT'S OVER NISA IS FINISHED FUCK LOCALIZATION
>>Shinovi Versus censored
>WHAT HAPPENED WITH MUH TITTIES. NEVER BUYING ANY MARVELOUS GAMES AGAIN FUCK THAT PUSSY FAGGOT COMPANY
>>Skylanders
>LOL PAY @ WIN WHAT A FUCKING JEWWWW
>>Disney Infinity
>MORE LIKE JEWSNEY JEWFINITY LELELELELE

Nobody says any of those things
Except like, criminal girls.
And only because NISA is really just awful.

What part of Shinovi Vs is even censored? I would legitimately cancel my pre-order since the whole philosophy for supporting that game is that XSEED is going the no-censor roue.
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>>252273372
How does everyone keep forgetting this game?
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>>252271114
>Xbox talks about TV too much!
>Sony keeps pushing the stupid VR shit!

Nintendo literally starts making Fisher Price toys for their systems
>OMG BASED NINTENDO
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>>252272771

maybe they will develop new games for those same amiibos to be used too, or maybe i'm aiming too high
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>>252272292

There's a recent trend on /v/ to look at one picture or read just the headline of a Nintendo related article and come up with the worst possible scenario for it so you can shitpost about it.

See: Großostheim. The shitposters saw, "Nintendo closes headquarters, 130 lose jobs," and that's all they needed. The truth they so conveniently missed was that the headquarters was just relocating, and the people who lose their jobs didn't care enough about their jobs to stick with the company. It's the same thing with Amiibo: people don't want to read what it does when it's easier to see the comparison to Skylanders and extrapolate from there.
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Isn't physical DLC a step above just DLC?
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>>252273486
>It's literally like Skylander toys.
Right now it's more like Pokewalker chips built into the figurine set they were already going to sell once the game came out.
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>>252273372
No, that's the worst possible scenario that idiots were expecting when they first heard about it.

>They are going to make it to where you need to buy Link to play as Link in smash right?
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>>252273486
No no no no have you read anything in this thread? It is nothing like skylanders, and its been confirmed what they do nothing remains to be seen retard.
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>>252273545
Yeah, but they're shitty figures. I want Skylanders tier Pokemon figures.

ALL the Pokemon.
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>>252271114
It's not physical DLC but it's just as bad, it's technically locked content that is only available when you buy an extra add-on.

People don't discuss Skylanders or infinity for the same reasons a bunch of other games aren't discussed and that's because they cause an influx of shitposting. While not the same I think the target audience is indeed the same.
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>>252271114
Why are people complaining about this?

This isn't some Skylanders tier bullshit where you have to buy figures to use characters. This is a figurine that can hold a customized cpu opponent and nothing more. Sure, they could have done this with flash drives, but where's the character in that?

It's kind of like being able to transfer miis using wiimotes. It's not actually that useful, and it's not some pay to win shit. It's also not quite physical drm. It's a nifty system that doesn't affect actually playing the game with other people, not like you can team up with these things online.
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>>252273597
They said it would have integration with future games, and the Amiibos can be rewritten like memory cards, so you're aiming right. They just need to sell.
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man the shitposters arent even ironic anymore, just uneducated

you can't take these things online
>pay to win

And these things don't download anything, its like a memory card with your fighter on it
>Physical DLC

and another thing
>Physical downloadable content
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>>252273615
I'd say less so due to being able to actually own the physical DLC and give it away if need be

Hence why nobody calls limited editions bad. It's practically the same day 1 cosmetic bullshit you'd get from games, but instead of your fuck whatever character being the one to get the cool T-shirt, you get it in real life.
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>>252271114
>Pay to win against an NPC

u wot m8
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>>252273795
What content?
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>>252273795
>It's bad because I said so and I use buzzwords hmph!
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>>252273486
>they would be stupid not to exploit people

Haven't you heard the news?
This is why Nintendo is always doomed, they have a limit to how willing they are to exploit their userbase.

Most companies wouldn't blink a eye for offering up half a game, with 3/4 of it DLC, and the ending as a expansion pack.
Meanwhile, Nintendo only has rare free DLC that is meaningless, like a real world car that can't even be used online.

Lesson learned: When you think of how Nintendo can be saved by exploiting their fans, they won't do it. Especially if it would work.
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>>252273302
>You just access additional content.
Like DLC? Just pay more to actually get the game full experience is the same shit people complain about DLC, but here you are saying it's different hence instantly better.
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At least it has physical value. it can go with other collectibles
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>>252273795
I don't see what's locked. It's like a device that let's you train a fighter and then take it elsewhere. Sorta like the Pokewalker thingie. I suppose it still hasn't been released yet though. No need to panic yet, however.
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Can someone explain how amiibo is pay to win? Genuinely curious
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So what are the chances of Lv 50 CPUs being TAS levels of crazy?
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>>252273486
It's LIKE Skylanders toys, as in it is similar.
It DOES use NFC technology. It has been confirmed that you can play without NFC figures (as implied by the comparison to normal AI enemies as opposed to NFC ones, otherwise there would be no comparison).
Also, every character will very likely be unlockable without the figures.

The quality of the figures has been seen to be pretty decent, especially for their confirmed price of comparable to Skylanders figures (10-15 USD).
Basically, they're bonuses. You do not need them at all. You can play with or without them.
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>>252274120
But it isn't making the full experience, It's dessert you fucking retard, smash will still have npcs and you can still put npcs on your team.
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>>252273805

oh shit, i guess i'll be buying like 3 of those things
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>>252272292
But Bravely Default isn't even Nintendo's
And the censorship was minor and didn't really affect the game in any way.
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>>252271195
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>>252274120
It is similar to DLC.
It's not like restricted DLC, though, it's more like an expansion; an expansion that would only be fully functional with an added physical peripheral due to how it was designed.
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>>252274354
Being able to train against better AI makes you better so you're more likely to win.

p2w garbage
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Nintendo fans will fucking defend anything Nintendo does won't they
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>>252274569
Do people actually believe this?
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Yeah, I am just going to post this screenshot taken from the March conference from now on instead of trying to explain shit.
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>>252274396
Could this actually become possible!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl6qmRK7sTU
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>>252274652
Contrarians will shit on nintendo does won't they?
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This is literally the exact same thing as the Idol Cards and no one threw a shitfit over those.

You fags just love getting mad over nothing
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>>252274569
oh my god are you retarted?

Amiibo does not lock out playing against NPCs, just makes ones that you train from scratch and can take from place to place

fucking kill yourself
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>>252274652
There is nothing to be defended because there is nothing wrong.
This is not DLC. This is peripherals that enrich gameplay.
It cannot in any way be free because what you are using is physical, and physical objects cost fucking money.
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>>252274652
There's nothing to defend. Everyone shitposts whenever Nintendo makes a new toy.
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>>252274569
>not just playing against people
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>>252274096
>It's good because I said so and I use buzzwords hmph!
Nice logic and counter argument
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>>252274840
>having friends
>Nintendo online
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>>252274569
I doubt the AI in smash will be sophisticated enough to pose as a challenge, let alone something to seriously train against. Looks like normal skylander/collectible shit to me
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>>252274396
Low

They likely use a more advanced version of Brawl's level 9 AI which nobody saw because fuck Brawl. But basically the AI learned to be better or worse from your fighting style. It's more likely they reuse that with fixups than have some other entirely new and crazy system.

If you can't procedurallly git gud, then your amiboo won't.
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>>252271114
>Physical DLC
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>>252274915
Nintendo's online has been great since the 3DS m8. I bet you've never even played a match of KIU with your friends.
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>>252274915
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The funnier thing is when people say this is pay to win, when a level 1 amiibo out of the box is going to be a drooling retard.
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>>252274943
I'm hoping lvl 50 is absolute perfection in timing, efficiency, movement, positioning, etc. You know, like playing against a computer.

I mean, when you think about it, they have to program CP players to fuck up in games. Basically just remove all fuck up codes.
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>>252274501
Day 1 purchase even though that's fake

the feet alone are good enough.
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>>252274469
Um, they censored the story and most of the outfits.
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>>252274221
> It's like a device that let's you train a fighter and then take it elsewhere.
Because we live in an age that it's impossible to do without internet. IT is restrictive because you can ONLY do it through the devices hence if you want to experience sharing and training fighters you MUST buy the device. And pokewalker came bundled while also being a simple device.
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>>252275321
They only censored three of the outfits, not most at all.
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>>252271791
Oh my god I want Custom Robo too. Why is our fandom such a minority?
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>>252275329
Whose to say Smash won't come with a mario amiibo.
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>>252274469
and yet, you still got a shitty inferior watered down phony version.

you cant even see 3 of those costumes and another 3 are censored.
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>>252275426
Enjoy being wrong.
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>>252275329
>hence if you want to experience sharing and training fighters you MUST buy the device
Or you could bring your fingers over to your friend's house and like

actually play against him instead of making him play against your computer
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>>252271114
>physical downloadable content
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>>252275273
Feet are fake too, footfag
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>mfw purchasing my DK buddy day one to train against and fight with and be best bros getting better and better together taking on all challengers
>mfw no one can stop me from having this fun
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>>252273604

It's not a recnet thread, /v/ have always been this way.

All that people have always cared about, videogame wise on this board is to either falsify or willingly misunderstand information for the specific goal of making other /v/irgins cry huge crocodile tears about it.

In the old tongue, they were known as "trolle"

There is a small fraction of these people who are actually console wars retard who do this to create more discord because they think it means their favorite corporate jew is winning the imaginary contest. Trolls, I can tolerate, console wars babies, they are the worst kind of fucking pathetic shitstains on this board.
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I don't know about you, but I've been waiting for a Pit figure to play with and train like a pokemon. Pretty much playing the role of Palutena, or a Pokemon Trainer with Greninja only on consoles or something.
IT SOUNDS FUN DAMMIT.
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Lets compare this to other Good and Bad DLC

Good DLC
>Skyrim DLC
>Added new side quests irrelevant to the main story of skyrim
>Reasonably priced

>Far Cry Blood Dragon
>Added completely different small storyline with no association to main game

Bad DLC
>Sims
>Adding a metric fuck tonne of shit that should have shipped with main game due to it being major gameplay parts

>Bioshock Infinite
>Adding important story elements as DLC that is not shipped with game

Now look at the amiibo, it is adding an optional feature and does not lock out anything, you can still play against NPCs that are equally as strong, all the amiibo does is give you the ability to save a NPC that gets stronger via training and allow for portability whilst getting a well designed figurine

Amiibo shares a lot with Skyrim and Blood Dragon DLC as it does not detract from the last game and is not fully essential to enjoy the base game, that is what good DLC is
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Money matches with these things is gonna be interesting.
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>>252275508
>Oh thanks nintendo for allowing me to store a single character on your glorified storage device, I guess I will spread my ass when I want another character instead of simply putting said data on a server or normal USB.
Shit, how selfless of them, guess they really don't want your money but to offer you alternatives (at a price) of something that can be done for free.

>>252275659
So you're saying the whole amiibo thing is useless? I Agree.
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>>252271195
>can't hot glue digital DLC without ruining something
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>>252276049
Wait. If it's useless why are you complaining about it?
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>>252276049
Man you a dumb dumb. This isn't just for one game. And no hosting a server for everyone in the world's amiibo would be a fucking terrible idea
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>>252271114
Citation needed: the thread.
No one has said it has anything to do with DLC
The best you can do, at least with the Smash ones is use them to git gud. Shit can't be used to assist you online.
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>>252275835
I don't even have a Wii U and I'm planning on getting DK.
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>>252276049
>So you're saying the whole amiibo thing is useless? I Agree.
Yes

So like

Complaining about it is quadruple useless

Why are you doing that thing
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>>252274098

Oh they exploit their fans alright.

This exploitation is called Pokémon.
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>>252275243
This often times results in borderline (or full-on) input reading.
The computer will react inhumanly fast because it knows your inputs the instant to put them in.

One obvious result of this is the ability of AI enemies to catch projectiles thrown at full speed from very short range.
A human would only be able to catch it if he either did so accidentally or got very lucky. A computer can just tell when you've thrown it exactly and either dodge it or catch it if it wants.
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I think they're cool looking, and I think children will like them. I'm buying Link for my niece since she's going through a bugged-out Zelda phase right now and has a Wii U. If she ever ends up becoming fond of Mario, Kirby, or any of that other shit, then I'll likely pick her up one of those, too, depending on how well these things do and what the full range of their capabilities ends up being.
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>>252276320
to be honest this was likely just going to be the figure set they were going to ship out to market the game in the first place like they do with everything

And just decided to give something extra to the physicalfags who support their merchandise.

I would've liked an extra bit of something to come with these things that came out with galaxy.
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>>252272538
Peach is what I'm getting as soon as I can preorder
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>>252276115
>"DLC" is built in the base (probably)
I think you'd be okay if you insisted on doing your perverted deeds.
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>>252276018
>does not lock out anything
You can't use the feature without buying one, hence it's locked.

>all the amiibo does is give you the ability to save a NPC that gets stronger via training
Because you're storing fairy dust into the thing instead of information that can be placed on a USB or uploaded to a server for free.
>portability
Don't throw words you don't even know what they mean

>Good DLC
You just said good DLC adds a lot to the main story or a brand new story, yet you claim a glorified usb is good DLC when it brings NOTHING to the game.
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>>252276727
>NOTHING
Now you're just being ignorant.
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>>252276380
Oh yeah how dare they give fans of a series more installments, How cruel and manipulative of them.
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All I want is Ganondorf in SSB4.

and Travis Touchdown[/spoiler
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>>252276727
>I have to buy an extra controller to fucking play Multiplayer? Goddamn fuck the NES
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>>252276380
So damn true, unless you have friends.
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>>252276727
You bought the horse armor DLC, didn't you anon? It's ok, you can say no sometimes.
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>>252276727
>when it brings NOTHING to the game.
>You can't use the feature without buying one, hence it's locked.

You're being pretty contradictory about this.

Why complain about literally nothing?
Or why call something substantial, but still optional, nothing?
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Why would you want to pay to win a game that's shitty
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>>252276214
>>252276351
Because people who are fine or support this will give a message to the industry that we rather pay for services/features that could easily be free hence encouraging other companies to follow.

>>252276243
> hosting a server for everyone in the world's amiibo would be a fucking terrible idea
Why would you call people dumb when -you- are this dumb, Other services host as much if not more and for free, you obviously don't know shit.
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>>252276727
>portability
>don't even know what they mean
it means you can take it from place to place easy, what even is your point?

>good DLC adds a lot to the main story
No I did not say that, I said that good DLC expands upon the game and is not a continuation, Dawnguard was good as it added a new storyline, Burial at Sea was bad because it was a continuation of Booker and Elizabeth's story

>You can't use the feature without buying one, hence it's locked.
Does anyone actually care that the feature is not in the base game?

Another reason why its acceptable is that the premise of the entire SSB franchise is figures coming to life and battling, now they are making this even more real by creating these figurines
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>>252277292
>-you-
For what purpose shiposterkun?
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>>252277292
>Because people who are fine or support this will give a message to the industry Blah Blah Blah.
In case you haven't noticed, the industry already thinks that.
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>>252271114
Where can I buy a cheap 3D printer to print my downloaded amiibos?
Will Nintendo start selling them?
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>>252271791
>Custom Robo Wii U
>Custom Robo amiibos
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>>252276849
Tell me what it adds to the story mode, or else make other examples.
>>252276981
>Having retarded friends that didn't brought their control over
>>252277029
>projecting

>>252277125
>You're being pretty contradictory about this.
features != content, just read properly.

>Why complain about literally nothing?
read>>252277292
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>>252277292
>services/features that could easily be free
>your idea is to literally host a server with every amiibo on it and just have everyone download eachother's data when they get to eachother's houses to play some shitty training RPG mode
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>>252271813

uh

source
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>>252271114
>Physical DLC
>Physical Downloadable Content
>Physical Download
Can I finally download a car?
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>>252271269
>does not open new content
Aren't amiibos used to get more advanced CPU players or some shit? That's what I heard, anyway.
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>>252277679
>Wow, I literally have to buy a memory card to access the save feature?
>Fuck the entirety of the gamecube and PS2
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>>252271114
How is it pay to win?
You level up a computer player. The AI gets stronger the more you use it. If anything, it's pay to lose.
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>>252277485
>easy
If you think carrying a figure is easier than a USB or even putting the info in a server you have backwards mentality

> I said that good DLC expands upon the game and is not a continuation,
So things that Amiibo doesn't do?

>Does anyone actually care that the feature is not in the base game?
People who buy the game?

>Another reason why its acceptable is that the premise of the entire SSB franchise is figures coming to life and battling, now they are making this even more real by creating these figurines
And thus totally acceptable for charging us for a glorified USB
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>>252277485
Holy fuck you're a moron. There's no reason this couldn't work as save data akin to custom stages in brawl that can be transferred via USB or over the internet directly.

Go ahead and keep arguing about muh portability of carriying a figurine around with you compared to that.
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>>252271195
Well I'm sold.
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>>252276961
You don't seem to get the point. From the first gen what did Pokemon offer? MULTIPLE VERSIONS. If you wanted all the content (pokemon) an installment had to offer, you either needed a friend with the game, or guess what? Buy the same game TWICE to get both versions to complete your pokedex. It was an idea so clever and ahead of it's time that kids never saw it coming. Even now there are people like you that don't get that even Nintendo can be a corporate mastermind at times. I feel bad for your loss.
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>>252277679
>DLC MUST ADD TO THE STORY MODE
Man, I guess there's a lot of DLC that isn't actually DLC.
It adds a better AI opponent, the capability to save customizations to a physical device, and the ability to summon your customized character in-game during fights.
Don't like that? Don't fucking buy one.
You don't need it to play the game.
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you fucks just keep eating b8 over and over again
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>>252278149
>There's no reason this couldn't work as save data akin to custom stages in brawl that can be transferred via USB or over the internet directly.
Did you even play Brawl
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>>252277671
If only one day it could happen...
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Before you say Amiibo is shit watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIwWCioBpEM

What can you see in this video? Toys coming to life, that is the point of this. Just adding the feature as some shitty NPC training game that can be transferred via USB or online takes all the soul and is boring which no one would bother with it.
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>>252271114
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>>252278321
Dude, I can't even tell which side is baiting anymore.
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>>252272985
You're over estimating how much these things will learn.
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>>252278240
Yeah but with wondertrading and online that's not the case anymore your argument is decrepit and irrelevant, kind of like you and your outdated shitposts.
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>>252278074
Or you can not buy the figure memory card and still play the AI. Dont be retarded
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>>252278240
Or buy yellow and have all three starters and every version exclusive.

>Buy the same game TWICE to get both versions to complete your pokedex
They legitimately expected people to have friends to trade with
Not for you to be autistic and get two copies of the same game.

Even these days there's a reason wifi trading exists.
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>>252278321

/v/ in a nutshell

Sometimes i think this is infested with 13-15 year olds.
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>>252273084
Don't worry, this time you'll have /v/ to play with because the online won't be utter shit.
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>>252278360
throw Gotchaforce into the pile of dreams too then
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>spouts trash without source
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>>252278508
think??

its always filled with edgy teens. if it wasnt we wouldnt be seeing SONYGGER NINTODDLER XBOT posts every 5 seconds
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>>252277521
So the best course of action is keep giving them green light to screw us even more.

>>252277691
Uh, yes? That's not hard, it happens all the time and with all kinds of services, I am starting to think that you believe the information of the fighters you train will exceed a GB or something.

>>252277898
>Strawman
Memory cards are ourdated and were obviously made to take out more money from the customer, Would you say that requiring memory cards on a system is a plus?
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>>252278508
Anon sad news is, it totally is, what right minded adult with disposable income that they spend on videogames bitch about people playing on a different box than them?
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>>252278741
Memory cards are easier to carry to friends houses, like I have to do with my two ps3s and my wii u.
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>>252274568
no that is fucking bullshit and you know it. There is no need for a physical peripheral, the CPU's could very easily be tracked in other ways, either online or locally. Saying it's only possible with those shitty figures is the worst kind of irrational fanboyism.
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>>252276961
>>252278240

And, also, my point was that Nintendo makes MAD FUCKING DOSH with Pokémon for over 14 years now what with the show, the trading cards game, the new gen being released almost every fucking year, the re-release of updated older versions, the merchandise, the clothing, the ammount of handhelds it sells, etc etc etc.

People keep saying Nintendo is finished and shit by reading two lines from a sensationalist blog article without fucking noticing that Nintendo has established a giant cash cow that's been running for 14 years and sending dosh directly to the headquarters.
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>>252278553
How is /v/ at Smash?
I think I'm pretty good at it. I beat the Smash 64 Single Player without dying on Very Hard recently (to confirm my suspicions that you indeed do not unlock Metal Mario), and I've almost made it through Brawl on Intense Mode (I always get fucked by Master Hand for some reason, even though I beat Boss Battles on Intense).
I don't play much Melee because I have a Wii U, and the only 2 it supports are Brawl and 64.
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>>252278369
fucking this, why is it so hard for people to understand the original concept?

>>252271195
/thread
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>>252278981
So are you for or against them? Or just shitposting?
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>>252278741
>Would you say that requiring memory cards on a system is a plus?
Yes. i could easily carry them anywhere and have my save files with me. They were replaced by the standardization of SD cards.
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>>252278989
We have Melee/Brawl netplay threads all the time

See for yourself
It's pretty easy to set up dolphin and your choice of smash vidya to test your skill.
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>>252278240
No anon, don't bother with them. You have nothing to gain and everything to lose in this argument. Go down this path of logic and you will lose your faith in humanity and your sanity.

Just leave them to their opinions.
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>>252278973
This is likely how Nintendo wanted to implemented, by making real Smash Bros Trophies akin to those in Melee and Brawl.
I'd buy one even if it didn't give me any in-game bonus just because I love the series. I'm happy they're releasing trophies regardless.
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>>252278316
>>252278467
>Don't like it? Don't buy it!
That's the principle of every product and service, I hope you haven't complained about anything ever else you'll be hypocrites.

But then again it's necessary to make clear wheat a product does and more importantly how willing are we as customers to allow companies to sell us something that could have been done for free, let alone praise them for such.

I assume your argument won't budge from the "don't buy it if you don't like it" which is sad but at least I made my points clear.
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>1 Figure works with Multiple games

I don't see the problem
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>>252279183
My computer is pretty shit... could it handle it?
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Guys, let's just settles this quickly.
Amiibos are a stupid little toy Nintendo's making. It locks up the content of having a custom AI that you can train, a feature not in the game normally. They can be customized and used in various games. They cost around 15$, to do something that could easily have been done with a USB, and some in-game button to reach the content. Most people won't use them because they're toys, and they're definitely not something worth having 100 shitposting threads over.
Are there any objections to this?
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>>252279395
Depends, wouldn't hurt to try.
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>>252279352
One way you can look at it is that it's a Smash Bros. Trophy. If you're a fan of the series, you'd want one anyway.
Except it also gives you in-game content. I say it's a win-win for fans, since fans would be the only ones interested enough to buy them anyway.
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>>252279265
>This is likely how Nintendo wanted to implemented

Well yeah that's what I'm saying. They want to implement a feature that could easily be in the base game, separately in the way that will get them the most money. Any other company does this and it's the blackest most underhanded business practice of all time, Nintendo does it and it's great because you just want to hot glue a Lucario figure.
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>>252276115

Fucking hell, this is also good for fighting piracy because NO ONE is going to buy these second hand.
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>>252279097

Against what? Nigga this isn't a fucking war and I don't care about your stupid internet argument. I'm not here to share my opinion on these figurines just so I can be shat upon by pompous and pretentious teenagers on their summer break.

Somebody said Nintendo is not exploiting their fans and I simply said that they are in the form of Pokémon, an extremely successful series that spawned an ocean of merchandise and sequels that refuses to die even 14 years later. I'm not for or against Pokémon, Nintendo or their figurine gimmick, I'm just stating the fucking truth. Nintendo doesn't need a new gimmick or to go down the EA way to be saved, they already have plenty of long term gimmicks to help them survive for a long time if just as a smaller company than what they are right now.

I'm so sick of everyone always seeing everything in two fucking issues, pick a side and if you don't agree with one, you are obviously against it. Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit. My opinion doesn't need to support neither of your bullshit console wars side.
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>>252279824
So if you aren't for or against? Why are you so upset, why are you even here?
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>Implying you don't want to buy a figurine

>Implying you don't want to shove your favorite Smash Character inside and train the fuck out of them

>Implying you don't want to do Amiibo Smash Bros Money Matches

Jesus fuck you plebs, this is gonna be fuck as fuck
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>>252271114
Fuck's the point of this? these are obviously meant for children, why put them on a stand and give them no articulation? same goes for skylanders.
What's the point of making it a toy if you can't play with it? or can you remove the stand and have articulations?
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>>252278454
>>252278501
Wondertrading isn't necessarily the most consistent way to get what you want. But online friends? Sure. I just pray for people with poor social skills not to throw a fit when they don't get a shiny legendary for their fucking Bidoof.
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>>252280182
>Implying you don't want to do Amiibo Smash Bros Money Matches

Holy shit, that's a good idea. AI cock fighting!!!
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>>252279824
>exploiting their fans
>by creating an extremely successful and beloved series
You know when most companies do this

They usually call those companies good.
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>>252280182
this this this this, imagine making drinking games out of it too
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>>252280257
GTS negotiations have existed since Gen 5 and the regular GTS has been here since Gen 4.

Just put up your whatever the fuck, ask for something, and check back the next day. It's not like looking through for deals is the only way to trade.

Hell just say you're looking for a chimpokofuck and add them, trade, then never talk again.
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>>252280182
With mains now also being able to be my bitch, I'm definitely ready for them betting games. Gonna just win more figures by wagering my own.
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>>252280328
>Capcom is currently going WAY downhill.
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>>252280083

I'm upset about you, first of all, because you miss the point of my entire argument by going "hurr durr so u like figurines or not yes or no black or white Jedi or sith?" when my argument said absolutely nothing about being for or against anything.

I'm here for the meta discussions and because my guilty pleasure is to read bait threads and console wars to see little babies get upset over other people's purchase prefference. I comment and participate in meta discussions once in a while when somebody says something interesting or when I can share knowledge or insight, as useless as it may be.

But okay, want my opinion on the figurines? I don't care, I seriously give no fuck about them. Maybe I'll buy one as decoration like the Merth one because I love Marth, Fire Emblem and decorative items that I find pretty, but as a gimmick, I give no fuck about it.

So where do I stand? please tell me otherwise I can't form my own opinion BAWWWW!

>>252280328

You know, exploiting your fans doesn't mean it is inherently bad, every corporation exploit their userbase and consumer base, otherwise they wouldn't make any money out of it.
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>>252280326
We heard it first on Japan Time Podcast. It's on Twitch and Youtube.
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>>252280775
The word exploit is sort of inherently negative.
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>>252280775
But if you don't care either way you have no feelings on the matter. You HAVE no argument. No reason to be here.
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>>252280182
>IN THIS CORNER
>WEIGHING AT AROUND 300 LBS
>THE KING OF KONG
>MASTER OF THE HOLY DONGSTORM
>DONKEY "FEATURE LENGTH" KONG!
>AND IN THIS CORNER
>WEIGHING AT ABOUT 2 LBS
>THE HERO OF THE LOWER WORLD
>CRUSADER OF CAKE AND WARRIOR OF THE STARS
>KIRBY!
>LET'S GET READY TO KERFUFFLEEEEEEEEE!
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>>252280536
I think the only problem with that are people with a lack on wifi (somehow) and people with REALLY bad sense of patience. But hopefully that's a rare occurence that isn't Reggie's problem.
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>>252281000
just stop eating the bait
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>>252271269
If it was
>EA
>Microsoft
>Sony
>Ubisoft
You would complain about money hungry Jews ruining the game industry.
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>>252281115
People with a lack of wifi in 2014 have a ton more important matters for their paychecks than buying even a single copy of Pokemon then.
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>>252281183
Dude, you were clearly responding to the bait.
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>>252281183
It's midnite and I ain't got nuttin better to do.
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>>252281034
>Super Smash Bros "Kerfuffle"
I want this title now.
Also, if we're announcing the figures, let's give the FIGURE accurate weights. Only I guess we don't know those yet, haha.
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Fantastic. More plastic shit I have to hide when I invite a chubby whore from OKC over to fuck.
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>>252271114

To Hotglue Pit and Link, and Ike.
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>>252280986

Maybe, but Capitalistia is founded under the principle of making money by exploiting your consumer in one way or another, that's what it means to make profit.

>>252281000

I could always make the counter argument that there's no point in joining your cock fight since, in the end, it's just a bunch of babies crying over a figurine gimmick. Let me participate in the meta discussion now
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>>252281189
What kind of Amiibos would they make?
John Madden?
Master Chief?
Kratos?
Rabbids?
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>>252281360
>I want this title now.

This thread is just full of wonderful little surprises.
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>>252281521
>John Madden
New Moonbase Alpha Amiibo.
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>physical DLC
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>>252281467
But by having an opinion on it, you are taking a side. You can't say you didn't do what you been doing and continue to do. Crying meta doesn't indemnify you of being for or against it. Stupid
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>>252281238
Good point.
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>>252281679

Okay, count me in the third "indifferent" party, then and feel free to write walls of text about how I'm wrong.
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>>252281189
I'd buy steam amiibo-analogs. I really hope they hear that.
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>>252281893
But you clearly identified as being against it. You can't make yourself something and claim you are something else. You dodo.
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>>252281360
I was just thinking of treating all the special figurines as wrestlers or boxers.
We'd give them nicknames like Jotarosa, Dong King, Hawk Hogan, and Triple D
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>>252282078

Yeah, when I buy the Marth Figurine, I will make sure to spite and curse Nintendo for making me buy one of their product I am clearly against.
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>>252281189
I guess that's one of the many perks of Nintendo being "for kids".
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>>252282317
Then you are for it, and not indifferent.
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