I was thinking about installing New Vegas. Is there anything fun to explore?
>>246564594
Yep, all 6 locations and the 60% of the map that isn't empty space blocked by invis walls
>>246564721
please post the empty space pic
>playing New Vegas for exploring
doing it wrong.
Play Fallout 3 if you want good exploration.
Also
>>246565230
This, you only really play Sight Vegas just to fuck shit up with weapons. The story CAN be alright to you depending on how you build it up. I personally like both in their own ways.
>>246565230
This anon gets it
Fallout 3 for exploration
Fallout New Vegas for everything else
But with mods, Fallout 3 can have everything else too
>>246565230
>Fallout 3
>Good Exploration
There is nothing to see in both of these games, if you want good exploration play motherfucking STALKER.
>>246566665
So close to quints
Plebs will say no
>>246565209
>>246565384
You know development was cut short right? They were forced to meet a deadline and a lot of shit had to be cut.
>>246567779
I prefer New Vegas, but that doesn't make the map any bigger.
Hell, that's the problem with most Obsidian games.
You can understand why they have so many problems, but that doesn't make the problems go away.
>>246567079
honest hearts was better
>>>246566666
>>246568054
Even if the map in new vegas was small there was a way lot to see and explore in that small area, than in the entire fallout 3 where everything simply felt dead and empty
>>246565384
quality > quantity
Fallout 3 suffered from copy paste locations. There's the same church by the same STA-COM array by the same metro station by the same street of ruined houses dotted all over the place. Don't get me wrong besides the awful navigation DC is great to explore and soak in but again more is not good if it's not unique.
Different strokes.
>>246567079
This, sierra madre was amazing for exploration albeit the maps all looking too similar, but it's a brilliant atmosphere so why not
Also I did it knife only no stimpaks, is it worth replaying DM on hardcore?
>>246566652
>But with mods, Fallout 3 can have everything else too
If you mean ridiculous sex mods and hilariously bad fanfiction quests with "everything else", then yes.
>>246568223
Honest Hearts was my favorite but not really. The quests in HH was over in no time and you had to force yourself to look around if you wanted to add to the content. Thankfully while most of it was a chore stumbling onto one of Randall Clarke's caves was always a treat getting more of his story. He's the second best character in the game and he's dead. Best character goes to pic related but it's a shame he's short lived as a companion.
>>246568565
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Just think, Alan Turing could never have dreamed of what wonders computers would one day accomplish.
Everytime someone yells "NV HAD SHIT EXPLORING!"
Honestly, did you guys even take your time with the game then? There is tons of shit to explore.
>But FO3 had more!
It didn't, neither did it have more quests or dialogue, but who gives a shit?
NV is a great game, also for exploration.
Go have fun with it OP.
>>246568709
>>246568223
Honest Hearts was only saved by Joshua Graham, the environment and Randall Clark. Rest was not really outstanding. I still love the DLC.
>>246568709
>>246568223
Honest Hearts had the best story from all the dlcs (Tribals, Mormons, that survivalist dude, just great) but the execution wasn't that good
Dead Money was the single best dlc's if only for the fact that it pissed off casuals for its difficulty
>>246568709
Literally the only thing worth anything at all in that DLC was Joshua Graham.
Though the native american tribal thing was sort of neat.
>>246568762
Invisible walls were also present in F3 they were just harder to encounter due to the size of the map, also even new vegas had some good exploration movements, like when you are on some rocky cliff during the night and you see the shining lights of New Vegas over the horizon.
>>246565209
> areas beyond map edge
Also you might know, area north from Nipton isn't empty, it's just you are shit at exploring
>>246568993
New Vegas and FO3 were equally big though.
But instead of just invisible walls, FO3 used these actual walls, using buildings etc, which I like better anyways. One of the few things FO3 did better.
>>246568839
Any frustration from the DLC was resolved the second you lock Elijah in the Vault. It's nothing but satisfying.
>>246564594
greatest improvement in new vegas was iron sights everything else is a small bonus, but if you mod it like fuck until it looks like a completed game you will play that shit for months
>>246568839
Yeah, Dead Money shouldn't have been the first released DLC, Obsidian mentioned so later on. I think it was Sawyer.
I've always loved that DLC. It's so top-tier in terms of writing, story and setting. Also the message is sublime, gets told both subtle and frontal to you in all characters. Always been fun when people who hated the DLC hated it because it took away your guns, which in reality was the point of the DLC...finding it is not the hard part... it's letting go.
>>246568839
Dead Money was the easiest shit and looked like a N64 game. Who in the FUCK thought it was hard? They need their shit slapped.
[Intelligence] Fallout 3 was objectively better in all aspects. I barely has fun playing New Vegas.
>>246568398
Pretty much agree. DC feels way too copypasted. It's easy to get lost, because everything looks the same.
In Mojave every location is unique, and there are always memorable landmarks, like Helios One, Mojave Outpost or Camp Golf in sight, so it never feels empty
Which gun?
>>246569812
[Speech 100%] *tips Pre-war fedora
>>246571568
Marksman Carbine
> accuracy
> ammo everywhere
> more DAM per hit
> semi-auto = more criticals
Assault Carbine
> -15DT for FMJ ammo
> use Minigun instead.
>>246569812
[Medicine 70] That post gave me cancer.
>Dead Money not best DLC
>>246565384
>23 more locations
>184 more quests
inb4 muh quality, while we all know F3 has shit quality in pretty much every department except "muh ghoul scares"
Man I really want to reinstall NV but I'm too lazy to download and install all of the mods again
>>246572792
> Decayed and darkened skeleton
> Clean, perfect dress
> Nopanties
Spooky
>>246567779
It wasn't actually cut short, they got 18 months to do it from the start. I'd still say way too little in comparison to FO3's 4 years.
Still a shame, they did wonders with such a short time, and had many more plans ahead, unfortunately now cut.
Fallout 3
>Land is black and gross despite having 200 years to turn into a forest
Fallout NV
>Land actually looks like a desert with plants growing in normal places
Was anyone else bothered by this
>>246564594
install it + hd textures + enb + that one weather effects mod
>>246578563
what's a good enb? Ive been running the weather mod but I swear it puts on a piss yellow filter at night.
Man, I loved the Survivalist story, it's so fucking well done, how he keeps getting dealt with the worst cards but tries to make the best out of it.
>>246578216
Most Fallout fans
>>246578682
Use Realistic Wasteland Lightning to fix that m8y
Use Nevada Skies and Poco Bueno + NMC
>There was Old World Blues, and New World Hope. And hope ruled the day at Big Mountain.
Holy shit, a thread where the Obsidiot hivemind isn't infecting everything. Maybe actual discussion can be had.
To be honest, New Vegas' exploration isn't terrible, but it's really not at all exciting save for... I honestly can't really think of anything. I guess the quarry was alright?
The Sierra Madre was bretty good though.
Honestly though, you play New Vegas for the story and dialogue. Exploration is an afterthought.
>>246579795
Oh, The Super Mutant radio station and settlement was kinda cool, too.
>>246578216
I like to head canon rationalize that the capital of the US would have been bombarded obscenely with many many more nukes than Las Vegas was. This should have led to no buildings standing but another head canon is to assume that they were all built to withstand nuclear blasts.
That many more nukes would have rendered the surrounding landscape much more inhospitable to life.
The Mojave on the other hand, is already a desert and partially a wasteland. Vegas was really the only target for any nukes, so fewer would have been aimed at it. Also Mr house manages do disarm something like all but 9 of the nukes shot at Vegas and the surrounding area. So much less damage and devastation from them.
Of course there's problems with this like old monuments standing in DC, but i just toss that up to Bethesda not really giving a fuck about setting and only wanting to make action games with lite RPG elements.
>>246564721
/thread
>>246569812
*[Intelligence <4]
Why does this game look like shit? The character models and animations are so god awful. I can't get into it at all. Holy shit skyrim was released only a year after this. Skyrim character models and animations isn't great either but replace new vegas with skyrim and it would be better. That's saying alot because skyrim is pretty shit to, but not new vegas shit
>>246564594
nothing.
Genuinely one of the worst garbages ever. I bought it under /v/'s recommendation. Never again.
>>246580662
Gamebryo
>>246580782
Fuck off then, its a good game and if you can't see it, then we don't need your input.
How can I made NV look good?
>>246580924
>what are preferences
>>246575238
>no panties
You didn't take a close look at the hologram, did you? Vera didn't wear panties.
Hell, Morrowind has better exploring than New vegas
>>246581025
Then fuck off if you don't like it
you don't have to announce it in a thread specific about it.
>>246581024
Graphics mods, if you want atmosphere theres this mod called Nevada skies. Atmosphere is the only thing New Vegas did worse then fallout 3.
>>246581024
Also, modding this shit is tedious.
>>246580946
Rest in peace, may we never forget you
>>246581024
Nevada Skies, NMC + Poco Bueno
Maybe an ENB, but I don't like them.
>>246581387
Disagree, it just had a different atmosphere, which was a Wild West x 50's. The game just screams "PLAY ME AS THE MAN WITH NO NAME!"
Oh well.
>>246581387
How can you even say that? Fallout New Vegas had great atmosphere compared to Fallout 3.You just dont have good taste
>>246581586
Maybe its just me, but I just couldnt get into the wild west vibe with all the sci-fi shit going down.Maybe its because I made my character an energy weapons build
>>246582164
What sort of faggot does energy weapons? I always make mine a /fit/ build(high strength/intelligence/melee,low charisma and speech)
Just like me ;_;
>not downloading this music mod to enhance the atmosphere
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/54916
Oh boone.
>>246582816
>replacing Mark Morgan music
>>246580048
>200 years
Nukes aren't perma world fuckers.
200 years would have cleaned that shit thoroughly.
Also, FO2 has plants and stuff coming back, FO3 was just a shitty dream that never happened.
>>246583621
*FO New Vegas was just a shitty dream that never happened
FO>FO3>FO2>Tactics>Niggers>New Vegas
>>246569812
[Terrifying Presence] Say that to my face, not online.
>>246583912
Go away Lone Wanderer.
>>246583621
>Also, FO2 has plants and stuff coming back
>progresses to put FO3 as second place
>an disregards NV
Alright.
>>246584092
No, fuck you
>>246583985
Terrifying Presence was the best perk in the game.
Prove me wrong.
>>246584290
speaking of perks
>create female character
>pick cherchez la femme early in the game
>outside of Dead Money, still haven't found a single instance where it's useful
well, fuck that shit
>>246569812
[Medicine 15] You seem to have gotten a brain concussion. Hold still, I will fix this.
>>246564594
Mod the ever loving shit outta it !
>>246584290
I like Confirmed Bachelor and Lady Killer, they had a ton of funny dialogue choices.
>>246581308
>Is there anything fun to explore?
>no
FUCK OF MUH FEELINGS
>>246583621
>Also, FO2 has plants and stuff coming back
Cool. Relevance?
Thinking about starting a new character in New Vegas centered around explosives.
What are some good mods to install?
I had a bunch of them installed during my previous playthrough, but they made my game crash a lot, so I'm probably going to just uninstall all of them and start from the ground up
>>246584148
I think you mixed up my post with the asshole right after me.
>>246585424
Fallout 2 takes place way before FO3.
Fallout 2 has plants springing back to life, the world is cleansed enough for plants to survive.
FO3 is a shithole with no plants except that one bullshit part.
>>246586964
Yeah, sorry.
>>246586964
>>246587181
Kill yourselves obshitishills.
>>246586213
Doing an explosive run may sound fun, but then you hit everyone in the crossfire and become vilified by everyone.
If you really want to make it work, get the Classic Weapons mod for the grenade pistol, Signature Weapon/Armor.
>>246574767
We we're all having a nice friendly conversation before you showed up
>>246587178
You're saying words, but you're not addressing my question. What relevance does Fallout 2 having plants have to Fallout 3 not having plants?
Spoilerx2: None, and Fallout 3 actually DID have plants, including "that one bullshit part".
>>246587717
Don't respond to him, attention fuels Obsidiot autism
>>246587485
I was planning on siding with House anyway, so I don't really care how the other factions view me
>>246583621
>caring this much about realism in a sci-fi fantasy game.
why do people like you play games, exactly?
>we will never have a fallout thread without 3 vs new vegas shitposting
>>246587735
Because Lorewise, a desert with a few plants 100 years post-war points to the fact that 200 years post-war that a Swampy/forested area should have a ton of plants.
Nukes don't work the way you think they do.
Also, the Potomac, a running river, should be absolutely cleansed after 200 years. The entire plot of FO3 and setting was absofuckinglutely retarded, with and without lore.
It's even worse lorewise since GECKs exist.
>>246588259
Please go. Half of the people in vaults either haven't left, don't have GECKS, or are all dead.
>>246587971
>>246587485
>>246586213
Another big big problem you are going to face is stuff flying all over the place. For example I was killing deathclaws in that secret place in the east and the enclave power armor fly out of the map thanks to the mini nuke I shoot.
Gets REAL fucking annoying when you have to fetch important quest item stuff also, the game is a cake walk with explosives
>>246588259
>Lorewise
>mfw there are people who actually lose sleep over this shit
>>246588116
>>246588259
>implying New Vegas was hit with anywhere near the same number of nukes as DC
>implying sci-fi ANYTHING hasn't taken liberties in the past
>implying everyone plays video games for "muh realism"
Besides, I was unaware you had intimate knowledge of what the landscape would look like after nuclear armageddon. Pics?
>>246588194
hold me :'(
>>246588259
>muh realism
Kek. Ever seen super mutants in Chernobyl, speeglord?
>>246588194
>we'll never have a thread where both fans appreciate what each game does well
>>246589295
It's /v/, you take the good with the bad i guess, unfortunately it's mostly bad
>>246589295
>implying 3 does anything well
>>246589542
It does do things good.
I think new Vegas has better gameplay and story but 3 does plenty of things correctly, perhaps even better
>>246589542
>shitposting this hard
>>246589796
*well, sorry on mobile and couldn't see how stupid that sounded
>>246589542
It provides a setting that, while not consistent with the Fallout series or itself sometimes, is interesting in own right
Ok, this thing is been bugging me for a while and I want other people opinions and points of view:
Why the fuck does 3 and New vegas use shitty T-45d power armor? That shit is a PROTOTYPE of the T-51b which was use in the war.
Also the fucking energy weapons look like SHIT, I hate the look of those blocky "unfinish" laser and plasma pistols/rifle when all the past games clearly use more advance comercial versions of energy weapons, at least New vegas fix the problem with the Plasma defender and the plasma caster.
I dont know, same shit goes with theDKS-501 sniper rifle in both 3 and NV, why would the old version of the most used weapon ever is the most common?
>>246588259
The odds of a place like Ivalice actually existing anywhere in the universe is exactly what turns me off of Final Fantasy Tactics.
It's just inconceivable.
10/10 anon
>>246584620
You can flirt witha light-switch in Old World Blues.
Why did you use such an ugly OP image?
It's tiresome to see it everytime I refresh
I've played through FO3 a couple of times and just started playing New Vegas.
If you say the plot in FO3 is retarded New Vegas is even more fucking retarded
>get shot in head, somehow survive
>hey you're a courier carrying some chip
>get to house
>get my chip back!
The whole plot is to get some dead computer guy a fucking chip so he can git gud at poker, i mean come on wtf is that shitty plot
>>246589291
>>246589141
>>246589137
>>246588116
Not him, but a game with lots of lore and background should be respected too.
If you write fiction, the best possible way to make it immersive and well written is to make it seem plausible and possible in X universe. Which Fallout 3 doesn't live entirely up. I think that is why >>246588259 is annoyed by the environment displayed in Fallout 3.
Thinking about replaying it again, but this time I want something different. I always up my charisma to 9 and throw as much as I can to guns, lockpick, and repair.
How hard is the game if I go meele/unarmed? Is there even some good weapon that'll stand up against deathclaws and cazadors?
>>246590998
I hope you're joking, for your own sake
>>246566906
Nice quads still.
i like both titles, but id have to say that i lean more towards NV; mod wise NV has a slight advantage. plus it is a lot more stable in a 64bit environment. shit to even get F3 to execute you need to fuck with setting for win 7t.
why fallout is bad compared to NV.
>>246591006
The issue isn't that people aren't acknowledging that Fallout 3 isn't necessarily 100% accurate, it's that because it isn't 100% accurate, Obsidiots get up in arms and say it's complete shit, while conveniently ignoring the fact that creatures like Nightstalkers, Radscorpions, Deathclaws, Yao Guai, Super Mutants, etc. Wouldn't fucking exist either. They cherrypick as hard as possible because "Obsdeeun r teh best, save-ur uv gaeming"
>>246589963
1. In Fallout 3 the excuse is that by the time Lion's excursion reached the Pentagon their T-51b was battered to uselessness, which makes no sense because they were designed (and even fueled) to last something like 100/1000 years with no support. So by chance they discovered a massive vault of technology in the Pentagon containing... prototype, obsolete suits. Not a vault of the mass-produced, state-of-the-art T-51b, but the prototypes. What Bethesda was thinking (or smoking) is a mystery.
2. The laser rifle is supposed to look functional. Obviously, it does not. Another mystery from Bethesda. I disagree with you on the plasma weapons, they looked accurate to the style for me.
3. I don't know what the fuck you tried to say with this one, maybe about the generic military sniper rifle from 3 and NV? The AM rifle was likely more limited by whatever factions used it to handling emerging heavy infantry such as power armor, before that the generic sniper rifle was more appropriate. If that isn't what you're talking about then please elaborate.
>>246591930
>>246591930
What pissed me of
>start fallout 3
>holy shit Liam Neeson is my dad this is gonna be awesome I love that guy
>LOL NO Liam is expansive! 5 minutes dialogue in the beginning and 5 in the end!
well fuck.
>>246591028
>meeling deathclaws
>>246590998
Awful, awful baiting.
>>246572792
>Vera I....
>>246591028
Yes. There's one power glove you can get in Lonesome Road that is literally a buzzsaw strapped to your fist. Makes mincemeat of deathclaws.
>>246592014
Ok the first point is somewhat decent, I can get behind the fact they found a vault in the DC full of T-45d suits. Makes sense since people wouldn't just trash all those prototypes.
>2. The laser rifle is supposed to look functional.
But they don't, they look like the first energy weapon ever made or homemade, thing is both civilians and militars before the great war already used mass produce energy weapons ( the Wattz series and the Glock for plasma weapons) Stuff like the Q-35 matter modulator is pretty fine since is made from an rocket engine.
About the sniper rifle, both 1 and 2 alongside New vegas says the Gun runners mass produce the lasted model of sniper rifle ( the DKS-501) but instead both games use the very old model of the DKS even when the new model is very easy to get and produce even after the war.
>>246592547
>not meleeing death claws
What is a super sledge and 100 me lee skill and 10 strength faggot? Every character of mine gets that along with 9 intelligence
>>246588194
we will soonbecause it wil be replced by fallout 4 vs newvegas
>>246591930
Most of that can be applied to NV. I don't see your point.
>>246565384
>>246574767
>even after seeing this people will still claim FO3 has more quests/locations/a bigger map/atsmophere than NV
>>246595461
And fallout 4 will win every time. New Vegas sucks
>>246592079
And how many of those in NV are just dialogue checks/2 minute fetch quests, like 1/3 of them. Also quantity =/= quality for 1 billionth time.
>>246594873
While I agree with you my melee weapon of choice is Knock-Knock
Also
>me lee skill and 10 strength faggot? Every character of mine gets that along with 9 intelligence
Let me tip my Pre-War fedora
>>246595805
There weren't many quality quests in FO3.
>>246589291
>3babies think super mutants are caused by radiation
>>246588194
> implying I didn't
>>246596386
I knew some autist would say this. Replace mutants with ghouls, faggot.
New vegas is one of the mostfungames I have ever played. GET IT.
>>246590442
The best part of the game.
>>246596612
Other than living for 100+ years, symptoms of ghoulism wouldnt be out of character for extreme radiation poisoning
>>246596704
Actually, now that I think of it, they can look physically similar. But they also cannot be healed by radiation, and as you said, they will most certainly not live for a 100 years, if they even survive 1.
So, any must have mods?
>>246594873
The worst thing about deathclaws in NV is that it's now impossible to sneak up on them, unlike in FO3.
>deathclaw has your back to you
>100 sneak
>light armor
>light inventory
>silent running perk
>fucking stealth boy
>CAUTION
I'm not sure if this is a glitch or if they intended on shitting all over stealth melee/unarmed characters.
>>246597101
Sneaking is 50% less effective if you dont walk
>>246597292
>silent running
You can't read, can you?
>>246597101
Stealth has been absolutely broken in every Gamebryo game, not sure what they did with it in NV but it feels fucking impossible.
>going at snail speed
>still caught no matter where I am
>>246568398
But somehow obsidian made Mojave look plane and 3ds-max-for-beginers ugly. Why can't I enjoy exploring AND a view?
>>246596347
Relly Rangers, Galaxy News Radio and Stealing Independence
Basically the only missions that are any fun, are ones, where you just blast your way through hordes of mutants in actual city ruins, and that's saying
>>246597101
>>246597292
>>246597373
Deathclaws have very high perception, this mean they will always catch someone trying to sneak even if you are very far away from them.
Cazadors have a perfect 10 perception, this is why you can't sneak pass them
>>246597373
>>246597101
And then there's that terrible glitch when enemies keep "rediscovering" their friends' bodies, and going into caution again and again.
Don't think it was ever patched officially.
>>246597432
Because it wouldn't fit on consoles otherwise.Download more mods.
>>246597101
what? I just wiped out entire Deathclaw nest with goddamn Fist of the North Rawr, killing every single one with sneak critical.
> hide in shadow
> sneak from behind
> profit!
I wish my char wouldn't yell like a retard when sneak-killing though
>>246584276
Where is that picture originally from? And I mean the grotesque child.
>>246565384
There was a comparison that said that New Vegas's map was actually larger than FO3's, but I can't find it. It said that the gridlines on each game aren't on the same scale despite being visually the same size.
>mfw i liked both fallout 3 and new vegas
>mfw this thread
I DONT WANT TO SET THE WORLD ON FIREEEEEEEE
>>246599032
I JUST WANT TO START A FLAME IN YOUR HEART
>>246582716
>What sort of faggot does energy weapons?
>I always make mine a /fit/
>>246584276
>>246599334
Melee>energy
>>246599025
It happens. And don't mind the "Obsididrones" or "Bethesdaggots" or whatever. They're just shitposters who try to spam one side or another as being full of nothing but bad people and not genuine fans. It's like the shit that happen in an FF thread where someone tries to paint FF8 or FF9 fans as insufferable asshole overhype their game.
I wish they would stop hiring celebrities to voice their NPCs.
GTA IV has no celebrities and did a great job at VA.
>>246599359
But new Vegas had shit lore. Or is that the joke?
>>246597432
The thing is apart from the strip. NV looks like complete ass. F3's map is way more detailed.
>>246599526
Never going to happen with Jewnimax still in charge.
Every game published by them has 90% of the budget spent on shitty marketing and hollywood actors.
>>246599639
>tfw The Strip was a total letdown
The way they had been hyping it made it seem glorious whereas it was basically fucking nothing. Freeside was more interesting.
you have to be careful modding fallout new vegas or fallout 3, while they are mod friendly, they seem to have huge issues with the more mods you add to them.
>>246591976
I don't think think you understood what I meant with "fit in the universe". There is a difference between those and realism.
>>246598087
Mods can't fix landscape and lazy texture wrapping.
>Making an area covered with cliffs
>Doing shit like this
I hate how empty the world are in 3 and NV. Can they ditch the shit engine already.
>>246599359
>shitposting
>>246600413
>people actually defending obshitian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6KxCSWGRu4
>>246600417
who would have thought that a desert would be empty after a nuclear holocaust?
>>246600264
That goes without saying of any game. Though wasn't there a launcher made recently that lets you choose what mods you start with?
i don't know why NV keeps getting shit for it's atmosphere. i love this shit.
>>246599639
Except its not more detailed
Where do you fags even get this shit from? Did you even play the game?
>>246600547
oh right that is shitposting but
>>246584276
isn't?
Fucking NV faggots, demonstrating yet again that they do infact have autism.
>>246600264
Or you just have to git gud andstop using nexus modmanager.
My game is perfectly stable with 200 mods.
>>246600560
>Faggotfist
Even if you're shitposting there's no reason to post that faggot's shit here.
>>246599608
How so?
It stayed true for the most part to the FO1 and 2 lore. Or do you not know what lore is?
>>246600556
What even is that shit
>>246600417
I feels empty because their enging can't into dynamic shadows.
Blame Oblivion.
>>246600592
post-post-apocolypse.
F1/F2 were way more populated.
>>246600748
>oh look i cant refute his arguments, better call it shitposting!
>>246600725
Both are shitposting, you projecting faggot.
You probably don't even care about F03. If someone had said the first was shitposting, you'd have called them Bethesdrones or something.
You're all fucking niggers
>>246600816
I'm just doing what you're doing. Fallout 3 does the same, yet you obsidinigs say it doesn't.
>>246600882
Partly because of Gamebryo and consoles too, remember that. From a lore standpoint, Hoover Dam e.g. should have way more soldiers in the battle. But it got reduced to what it is, blame Gamebryo and consoles. Same happened for the Strip.
>inb4 someone tries telling me otherwise
Try installing major NPC adding mods and see how well it handles it.
>>246599025
>>246599490
While I dont like Fallout 3 I find it does one thing which NV didn't and disappointed me: Random encounters.
While not perfect they do make the game a little more alive unlike NV which sometimes the Mojave feels empty in your long walkings. Also even when is so dumb that a fucking british would cross the sea I like Allistair Tenpenny (more that anything, the suit) and the Pitt was pretty decent
>>246601170
But FO3 doesn't do the same..? The fuck? You trivialize out by making up things? What is your point even?
>>246601062
NV is still of better quality than FO3. It has more choices, and a more engaging world.
And before you go thinking "Obsididrone" or whatever, no, I've played both, and can say that I found NV more enjoyable, even if it was prone to freezing more often than FO3.
>>246601252
you didnt read what i originally said. I am agreeing with you.
>>246600417
>>246601385
How does it not do the same, nigger?
Both are excellent, both have problems.
This thread is shit.
>>246601297
What random encounters, though?
>>246599932
>That fucking sound of the crowd
Two faggots playing black jack
>>246601495
FO3 doesn't stay true to FO1 and 2, you're saying NV doesn't do that. But it does.
Again, what is your point, except pointless fanboying/shitposting with no purpose.
>>246601667
How does FO3 not stay true? Sounds like you're just repeating obsididrone shills.
>>246601495
If we're talking lore, the only thing FO3 was faithful was how a great war happened, world got fucked, and now it's two centuries later. That's really about it.
While NV wasn't a perfect return to form, it at least tried to expand more on things, whereas FO3 just kind of repeated elements from the first two games.
>>246601538
So Algernon is a fucking jew after all.
>>246601810
>how a great war happened
Except MZ implies it was aliens so
Really... the 3 Vs NV shitpost-off/debate for the 100th time?
>>246601797
Can we get the mods to ban the word drone? You niggers have all taken it beyond it's proper context that it's impossible for anyone to say anything about any game they like without getting some illiterate mess of a word with "drone" slapped into it.
>>246602006
Yup.
>>246601959
Which was pretty stupid, because it then trivializes the whole powderkeg that was the events that lead to the bombs dropping.
>>246602075
Kek. Can't even say shit so you ask to ban the words I use.
>>246601797
There are plenty of things, all which have repeatedly been mentioned, and you know it.
But if you really want to, then sure:
Ok So here we go, this deals mostly with the plot and such and can for the most part be over looked depending on you dedication to the franchise. This is not really in chronoligical order but rather what came to mind first.
Why can you not choose which side to side with. When I did my chaotic stupid playthrough it made little sense for me to side with the lawful good BoS. The railroading that went on in this game was unacceptable from previous iterations in the series and even with NV. It would make more sense if I could side with the Enclave.
Dr. Li. This is more of a comment on how she was given voice directions and such but holy crap. When you are escaping from the enclave for the first time she is the most schizophrenic person ever. Angry then soft and back around.
Vault 84? and the quest to get the GECK (ignoring the fact that the GECK is only supposed to be a suitcase of seeds, fresh water and some dirt not some Deus ex machina) (the FEV vault) has only two ingress points: A: the entrance, bathed in lethel raidiation, so much so that the only individuals who can move around near it are Super Mutants, centaurs and most likely ghouls. B: Little "fucking" lamplight, a village made up of children that does not even acknowlege how children act around older individuals. Anyone have a younger cousin or two (younger by like ten years) they will latch on to you and worship the ground you walk on not try and kick you out. Sorry I'm getting distracted, the Enclave "ambush" you how do they get around the crazy lethal doses of radiation and the kids who will not open their door? Massive plot hole the size of the Marianas trench.
I've got more if you need it.
>>246581586
>The game just screams "PLAY ME AS THE MAN WITH NO NAME!"
I remember this is the thing I wanted most when the game first came out. Did it ever happen?
>>246602006
If you look in the archive, it's the same fucking people posting the same baiting images every thread to start the shitflinging on both sides. I'd love to talk about the actual flaws of NV and 3, but nobody else here does.
>>246591549
You just have to go into the Fallout ini and set it to run on two cores. FO3 is can't run with four.
No editing of Windows settings required.
>>246600556
but anon that'sbecause your computer's shit
>>246602259
And you're a fucking idiot for thinking I'm the guy you were arguing with. Of course, you're clearly shitposting since you just used kek unironically.
>>246601549
>What random encounters, though?
This
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_random_encounters
Is just a little detail which make a good difference
>>246601959
Which I hope will be non-canon, since it will ruin the entire idea of Fallout in the first place.
>>246602514
For me anyways. You can play the game in a million ways, if you didn't know how to do it, then it's your own fault.
>>246602568
>tfw seeing your OCOh gosh
>>246602075
Because literally anything Obsidian touches becomes automatic gold to these people.
>>246602680
>>tfw seeing your OCYou said this the last time I posted it
>>246602474
You can choose whether or not you side with the Enclave, you faggot. The GECK is a Deus Ex Machina, always has been.
I didn't reply to anything that was just your 12 year old but hurt opinion, just the stuff that would make some sense in aiding your argument
>>246602882
Oh...Still a nice feel
>FO3 has a bigger map than New Vegas
>>246602474
Yea, that fucking door was ridiculous. There's literally no way to get close to it without using cheats, and even then I think the game doesn't acknowledge it if you use cheats or whatever. They just made the door impossible to get to for the sake of a lame plot point. When they could have just had the Enclave follow you through lamplight, or even just make their own entrance through the ceiling
>>246602785
Yeah, I'm sure I've been pretending to shit on NWN 2 and Dungeon Siege 3. Great argument you're making champ.
>>246603058I understand.
>>246602568
>I'd love to talk about the actual flaws of NV and 3, but nobody else here does.
Me too bro, thing is people is way oversensitive when shitposters show up
>>246603056
>Always has been
No it has not, fuck off.
>>246603070
Yeah. I've got more stuff to complain about, but it'll just ruin the thread even more.
Fallout 3 did a lot of shit in terms of lore, but that doesn't make it a bad game. It just makes it a bad Fallout game, and you fags just gotta accept it.
>>246602785
Oh please, not like some FO3 aren't the same. Seriously, this is why it's clearly shitposting. Because it's always gotta be the fault of obsidian fans somehow, never the Bethesda ones? Yea, right.
>>246602568
Some of the images are discussing flaws, like that one with Nintendo Chalmers pointing out the plot flaws. But now it's apparently baiting even though it's legitimately talking about the flaws in the story, just with a bit of humor. But the two scholastic images are indeed baiting.
>>246601797
From top of my head:
> despite beign destroyed in Fallout 2, Enclave respawns on the other side of continent
> Brotherhood are boy scouts
> Supermutants outside WestTec/Mariposa
> ghoulification can happen instantly
> supermutants are brain-damaged freaks
> feral ghouls cannot use weapons
>>246603056
>You can choose whether or not you side with the Enclave
Not that guy, but you can't. Sure, you can choose to go with Eden's plan, but that's not the same as joining the Enclave, since you can't lead them to victory, only the Brotherhood.
And no, the GECK wasn't always a Deus Ex Machina. It's just a survival kit to help one begin an all purpose farm somewhere. Not some terraforming device.
>>246564594
ur mama
I enjoyed both games, found flaws with both games. Thing I hate most though, the endless subway tunnels in FO3. Pissed me right the fuck off.
is it possible to max all your stats in this game?
>>246564594
If people told you, wouldn't that kinda go against the whole point of exploring?
>>246602663
Eh, they had some similar things like that in NV too. Of course, they both could have done better instead of "random attacks by the faction you pissed off" or "people relating to your perks"
>>246603515
Well yes, counting all of the unmarked quests in New Vegas that amount to little more than a speech check and citing that as "more content" in an attempt to start shitflinging is bait.
>>246603993
Not quite. They could just give vague cardinal directions or something.
>>246568709
That voice, good lord, that VOICE
one thing that needs to be considered during the endless NV vs 3 threads is that fo3 had to start from scratch while NV had all the material from fo3 to work with. Both games are good NV just had a rich kid upbringing while 3 had hand me downs from oblivion.
>>246604150
It has some legitimacy though. Not counting the obvious speech checks, there still are more quests. Of course, why people think having more/less quest is a good/bad thing I don't know.
I mean, GTAV might have a few less story missions than IV did, but it was more varied in its missions than IV was.
>>246603809
> despite being destroyed in Fallout 2, Enclave respawns on the other side of continent
There was still a contingent at Nevarro, most of which fled to the east when the NCR attacked the base with BoS support. Those who stayed either died or went into hiding, the rest fled with Colonel Autumn. Logs from EDE suggest that there is also an enclave base in Chicago, its members may have joined Autumn when they fled.
> Brotherhood are boy scouts
Their faction has been expelled by the primary brotherhood in the west for betraying their ideals. Hence why the Outcasts split off to continue the real Brotherhood's work.
> Supermutants outside WestTec/Mariposa
Vault 87 was a control Vault where the inhabitants were purposefully exposed to FEV. Pretty much a cop out there, yes. Shit writing just so they can have Super Mutants.
> ghoulification can happen instantly
That is indeed, total bullshit.
> supermutants are brain-damaged freaks
In FO3, the strain of FEV used was a crappy, earlier form, which resulted in dumdums. Another cop out.
> feral ghouls cannot use weapons
They're mindless husks that seek only to feed. That one is hardly surprising.
>>246603059
>fuckhuge
>nope
>NV is 40 cells bigger
>This is not fuckhuge.
>>246604353
NV only had around 15 months of development. When Sawyer said 18, he meant from start to finish, not mentioning testing and the likes, which takes some time, as well as getting the games out etc.
FO3 had 4 years, building the engine was two of them. Still had 9 months more, yet less content.
That being said, FO3 was a good game, but a poor Fallout. I like it.
>>246604353
Doesn't necessarily mean NV got it much easier. It had to use that shitty, buggy engine that Bethesda was plugging harder than a local whore, and only had a year and a half to make something out of the resources compared to the 3 or so years FO3 had in development
>>246604598
I prefer NV's quests in almost every respect, but that image is extremely misleading. The only reason it's posted is to start shitty arguments like the ones in this thread.
>>246604749
To be fair, the EDE thing was a bit of a copout too since it was basically forced to acknowledge what FO3 had done, since prior to that, FO2 had more or less implied they were wiped out.
As for the BoS, I think the real problem for people is that they're conflict isn't more focused on. It's just glossed over with "We wanted to be nice to people" and nothing else.
>>246604854
>>246604887
Well although 3 has less material and I do like NV a lot it is far far more glitch prone. I never had any game breaking glitch with three but I have to save constantly with NV because of it. I like both the same, maybe NV a little bit more. I just think they can't be compared in these endless fruitless arguments because their creations were so very different.
>>246603515
I ahve NEVER seena Fallout thread anywhere that WASN'T Obsidiots immediately finding any way they can to trash 3.
>>246604895
Then why not edit out the quests that are just speech checks and keep the ones that are actual quests? The idea of a "which one has more content?" isn't entirely bad, but shouldn't be misleading.
>>246564594
Go for the exploration, stay for the story and feels
>>246605314
I've never had any gamebreaking glitches with NV either. I've had a handful or so over 300 hours.
Especially after the patches, the game isn't bad at bugs.
>>246604092
Well yes but is kinda fair if you look back at Fallout 1 and 2, most of the time is just a silly little thing or for example in 1 you will find Hub guards near the cell map ofthe Hub.
Like I say, is not perfect but makes a little difference, I just saying 3 do random encounters a bit better
>>246604340
I love his voice, but my favorite will always be Dala
>you will never fap in front of Dala making her spill her biogel all over the place
