Why do PC users hate console users? What is the cause behind that movement?
Do console users dislike PC gamers?
>>319460215
Name the last time a console game was shittier because of being a multiplat release.
I'll wait.
The attitude of PC gamers in the west is quite something to behold, it's extremely pro-consumer but funnily enough to its own disadvantage.
Basically what happened before and during the PS360 gen is the rise of PC gaming and the mass migration. Those who had been raised by consoles were now turning their backs on them yet in such a way that instead of seeing them as machines that have supported game development for over a decade, they were now seen as obsolete pieces of hardware designed by greedy companies to hold back their gaming experience. This propelled the already growing subculture of PC superiority as we know it today.
Now what PC users failed to realize was the consequences of damaging consoles market share for it was to directly reduce the capacity for the industry to fund and develop games in the wake of rising game budgets. What was was once standard industry practice was now flipped on it's head to completely pander to the PC user. It's hard for developers to want to support PC when they make up such a small amount of overall sales, demand that games to be sold underpriced yet optimized for their unique hardware configurations all while the rest of the userbase engages in rampant piracy.
As games continue to evolve and cost developers, they will simply continue to work hand in hand with consoles who will adapt to the changes with hardware iterations towards the end of it's life cycle. It is this infrastructure of complimentary support that actually holds the gaming industry together and drives it forward while also ensuring developers remain stay afloat and continue to make the exclusive games we all know and love.
PC users ultimately reap what they sow though, the state of the support for the platform is a testament of its failure. PC is largely supported out of necessity and without multiplats, it is dead, that is how fickle the line is between reality and the PC platform. 2016 will be one of the greatest gears of gaming history, except for PC.
>>319461437
You are retarded. Anyone with half a brain and a wallet would have a pc and console of choice.
It is not about a platform, it's more about the type of person and pc retards are spoiled elitists pricks.
>>319461362
The EA sport game of the year.
>300$ pc, 60fps 1080p high settings,
>350$ console, sub 1080p, 25 fps, mid low settings, devs have to pay fees to sony and m$
here's why peasants. also ps4 no games, no reason to get a console this gen
>>319462524
>spoiled elitists pricks
I care more about games than I care about platforms for the most part, hell - I own an Xbone because there's a few games I want on it.
With a lot of games though, there's a lot of things which could be expanded upon or improved simply by not being limited to an aging, weak single console spec.
A good recent example of this is Dragon's Dogma, which is just unpleasant to play on my PS3 because of the myriad of graphical and framerate issues it has; it takes a much, much overdue PC port to fix issues which shouldn't really have been there in the first place.
Hell, Skyrim both base game and modded is another decent example. The base game is quite shit, and to make something decent from it you need a bunch of mods (either gameplay or fixes). But even if you disregard that, the console versions have their own technical issues not limited to the fact that the PS3 version had a crippling bug due to the RAM configuration which essentially made the game unplayable - such issue wouldn't happen on a PC with tunable hardware.
>>319460215
buying this shit supports companies making more exclusives
exclusives are a death sentence for a game. good luck going back and playing some xbone game online when the servers die.
>>319461362
Dark Souls 2
>>319464520
maximum fucking this
>>319462524
this is why PC owners hate you console fags. The amount of lying, disinformation and cut content you are willing to tolerate is pulling the rest of the industry down. I'll use a good example, modern warfare 1.
The first modern warfare was simple with good map design, as well as 64 player private servers and mods. It also didn't have any DLC.
Enter MW2, 12 players with P2P host connections and extreme lag compensation that led to unfair gunfights on small maps with low amounts of players. Add in a bunch of bullshit perks, weapons, and killstreaks and you have an unfair unfun experience where skill means nothing. It was a complete downgrade from the PC version, so why would they make it?
Consoles. Consoles can't have a lot of players at once, consoles can't render a lot of on-screen models at once, consoles have terrible connections yet make you pay for internet TWICE.
And worst of all, consoles are owned by kids. Kids are unwilling to put the time and effort an adult would into research or trying to find a quality product, you most likely used your parents' money to get your video games, so you didn't fucking care about cut content and DLC. You didn't care that the maps sucked and that there was a bunch of bullshit perks and gadgets, because the game let you get a kill every once in a while and that made you happy.
And the worst part is? You still fucking hold on to these retarded beliefs that developers can do no wrong, and you say "stupid PC elitist pricks!" as the console game companies make your eat their shit.
YOU are what is wrong with the gaming community.
>>319464789
>Buying games for online.
>On a fucking console.
That's their fault and they deserve it for being retarded. Pc is the only place where online worths but at what cost?
>>319464873
>implying
A lot of the reasonings you make there are somewhat sound, but I don't think you're entirely right with your judgement of CoD's devolution into MW2.
Remember, consoles are stuck with controllers, which are slow devices with poor accuracy. To offset this, they have heavy aim-assist but you also need to consider they also have issues with aiming vertically alongside horizontally; two levels of inaccuracy in aiming instead of just the one.
As a result, a lot of 'modern' FPS have limited verticality or extra quirks and gimmicks to mask the actual gunplay not working particularly well when there's any sort of demand for quick and varied movement.
They've tried to improve it over the years, but ultimately you still don't see a massive amount of vertical gameplay because of the platform's input restricting what you can fundamentally do with a game's movement and mechanics.
As a result, it's less a case of the game getting 'dumbed down' for consoles, and more a case of it being tailored to just work properly on their then-target platform. As a result, a lot of things about it on PC just don't make sense and when you throw them into the mix of being able to actually aim quickly, the game becomes just a huge unadulterated mess.
>>319464873
>The amount of lying, disinformation and cut content you are willing to tolerate is pulling the rest of the industry down. I'll use a good example, modern warfare 1.
Cutting content on games was born in pc you turd.
Every single fucking shit running games has its root on pc. Making the games platform trying to look like a pc has consistently fuck up the quality and quantity.
And audiences like you fail to understand that a system running games don't have to be the same as the others.
>Using CoD as example.
>>319464873
words of truth, could not agree more
>>319464873
I forgot to add an example of console fags being complete fucking retards.
I had this friend that I was talking about the new battlefront with. He complained bitterly about EA and how he just "hated their guts so damn much" and how "they're killing the gaming industry". He was so pissed about all the cut content and features in the game, then said "ya I'm still going to preorder the deluxe edition and get the season pass"
Like he was so mad about it, then proceeded to pay $120 for a game that he was unhappy with the quality of and wasn't even out yet
>>319465715
>Implying any platform is retard free.
>>319464873
Go to bed Gordon
>>319465963
>retard free platform
Agree, does not exist
>retard:non-retard ratio
This is one of few categories where Consoles are actually ahead of PC
Because consoles dumb down multiplat games, and the drive to make console friendly sequels and reboots has completely destroyed many series and genres.
I don't hate PC gamers. I honestly just find all the ego stroking pretty cringe worthy.
>>319461951
>Anyone with half a brain and a wallet would have a pc and console of choice.
Anyone with half a brain would realize the sheer redundancy between platforms and choose one, the best games and future support being the PS4.
If you own a gaming PC and a console, you're a fucking retard.
I just don't like gaf fags and people who actively lie to themselves about the quality of consoles because it spreads misinformation. If you just want to get an Xbone and play nothing but fifa I don't give a shit.
>>319460215
Only on /v/.
Why is op a faggot? It's just the way things are
Consoles have bred unnecessary competition into the industry and changed it for the worse, especially console exclusives that give consoles fanbases based on their games and not the hardware itself.
A world where a shitfest like the XBone is allowed to survive just because it's a Halo machine is not a good world. If there were no exclusives to back up shitty consoles like that, Microsofts gaming division would already be dead.
>>319461437
>without multiplats, it is dead
You know there are people that play games other than Fallout 4™ and Battlefield 4™ (enhanced by Nvidia Gameworks™).
>>319466665
>owning a good PC gaming rig
>wanting to get Smash Bros and other wii u crap
>end up buying a wii u
>some idiot on 4chan tells me i'm a retard for not getting a ps4 because it will have the best games in a near future
>guess i'm a retard now
>>319460215
>Do console users dislike PC gamers?
I don't even think about PC gamers, at all.
I honestly forget about PC when the topic of games comes up.
I'll consider competing consoles and which games will sway me to purchase which platform, but PC never comes in to the equation.
It doesn't offer me anything enticing compared to consoles.
Much like the rest of the world, I already own a notebook, and use it for plenty of reasons; the least of which being games. However, when the odd PC only game does come out that interests me (Pillars of Eternity, for example), this laptop from 5 years ago can run it fine.
I just don't see the benefit of spending $800 on a gaming rig, and so I forget that there are people that actually do.
>>319467354
not nearly as much people as those two you mentioned
>>319460215
Autism
>>319466665
>best games for the future
You mean best timed exclusives.
>>319467693
You tell him fellow master race! Bloodborne will show up on Steam any day now!
I don't hate them. I wish however if a game was announced to come out for the PC at the same time as a console devs would stop being lazy by developing it for consoles and porting it over to PC and just hoping it'll work.
if you make a game with consoles in mind PC gets screwed
if you make a game with the PC in mind everyone wins
>>319467337
A world with no offer is a bad world. Also Xbox brand is irrelevant.
>Multiplats are ok.
As a cancer patient I hope you get it too.
>>319464630
Hey Tyrone, I know English isn't your language, but see, there is a difference between a game and its fanbase.
>>319463724
PS4 and Xbone guys are having sex while piss-c is still a virgin?
>>319460215
because console gamers are basically brainwashed into taking sides in a war of artificial exclusivity masterminded by patent trolls, and regularly act and express opinions against their own interests as gamers and consumers.
>>319467847
>thinking exclusives are good
console kiddies, everyone.
You do realize that you don't benefit with exclusives, right? The actually quality and time of release for PS4 owners is not impacted at all by Sony making it exclusives. In fact, you actually lose with exclusives!
The way exclusives work is a Console company pays a game developer in the potential sales they would get for making a multiplat. Sony spent millions on getting game devs to make their games PS4-only. So, those game devs didn't let Xbox or PC owners get those games.
Guess what retard? Those millions could have been spent on better servers, the PS4 could have gone on more sales, the PS4 could have had better hardware for better resolutions and higher friamerates.
But instead, even though Sony spent no money on improving your experience, but making sure Xbox owners can't play bloodbourne, you brag.
Like some special needs kid, you brag.
You brag about the fact that Sony spent millions on making sure no one else could play the game except PS4 owners, in no way are you benefiting from the title "exclusive".
But since you're a fucking idiot, you need brand loyalty so you feel like you're actually part of something in life. Exclusive is a stupid fucking marketing term used to deceive their childish consumer base that they're actually getting more games, when the reality is your situation doesn't change one iota.
Again, this behavior is that of a child.
>>319468154
Gay sex doesn't count as sex
>>319468154
>having sex
getting fucked from behind by another dude is what consolefags consider sex?
And I taught being virgin and watching HD 60 FPS porn was considered low.
This is an official Reddit Thread.
>>319467847
>admitting your console only has one game
You sure showed me.
>>319460215
PC users believe (rightly or wrongly) that consoles hold PC's back.
Console users are generally ambivalent in my general experience (as are most PC players, it's just a few that actually virulently hate consoles).
>>319468578
Please, post paid modding r/pcmasterrace isn't as bad as this thread.
>>319465702
Ah, yes. I remember those exclusive map packs for console fps games
>>319467882
>>319468339
>This delusion
>>319460215
MS and Sony do more harm to the industry than EA and Activision, but get a free pass for being platform creators, even though that position lets them abuse power far more than a publisher could ever hope to.
>>319467387
>Gaming PC is my only platform since 2007
>Buy PS4 because I absolutely need to play Bloodborne since the Souls franchise is one of the only ones I give a shit about anymore
>Now I'm apparently a sonygger and worship Sony as a company
>Completely unable to discuss this game on /v/ without some autistic master racer getting triggered
>General was made months before game release because of shitposting, forced to discuss it there or on leddit
I actually feel sorry for people who want to talk about console games here, they would have an easier time on r/pcmasterrace
>>319464873
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty_4:_Modern_Warfare#Downloadable_content
>>319468728
And do not forget Starcraft Insurrection anon
>>319469031
>comparing xpacs to dlc
>>319460215
>Why do PC users hate console users?
I don't. Personally I find console wars incomprehensible. Why can't people just enjoy playing the games they like?
>>319467882
>if you make a game with the PC in mind everyone wins
That depends on the game. Some simply aren't suited for consoles because their controls have too many bindings for a controller or because smooth play requires a keyboard and mouse due to the nature of gameplay. That's not to say those games cannot be played on a console at all, but certain aspects of a game may require streamlining or redesigning to keep play satisfying.
>>319464873
Sounds like you're just mad because devs refuse to optimize for PC and you're getting console scraps.
>>319460215
The same reason console users hate other console users.also the fact that console users are brainwashed to be proud of exclusives, when that practice does nothing but hurt consumers and the industry as a whole.
friendly reminder
>>319460215
mostly because console hardware is shit and holds back video games. PC hardware is far beyond that of consoles.
Consoles are the least common denominator.
>>319468893
I'm going to get a ps4 once it gets cheaper only for bloodborne and maybe some other games, i'ts sad when you have to admit that reddit has become a better place for discussing videogames instead of /v/.
But still, the only reason all this consolewar shit exists is because poor people are insecure about their purchases
>>319469149
>Implying they weren't the beginning of it.
>>319469328
>being an absolute retard
PC gaming is in a death spiral because of a standoff between publishers and consumers. Publishers see almost no point in shipping exclusively for the PC outside of specific genres because nobody is buying their games. Consumers aren't buying games because they're getting increasingly shafted by publishers who don't support the PC market. This in turn gets back to publishers who now have even less incentive to support PC games and round and round we go.
The slew of early access games games with microtransactions, and p2w fests like League that buck the traditional revenue model are the only ones finding real success these days.
>>319469212
I don't get what SirZapdos is trying to convey honestly. Also apullin has a point
>>319469015
the cod 4 map packs were free on pc, paid on console
felt good as fuck
>play only online private server games with bros
>mostly games from mid 2000s
>laugh equally at faggots who still take FOTM games seriously regardless of platform
>why do PKeks hate console gamers?
Because we buy our console, hook it up to our 52' television, and have fun. Sometimes we invite some family or friends to have with too. Meanwhile, PKeks are salty as fuck because consoles are where the money is. Devs are focusing more and more on consoles and PKeks are left with unoptimized ports and three-year scraps. Oh, and Blundertale. Instead of just admitting that PC is a slowly, but steadily, dying platform, they'd rather bitch and moan about "m- muh frames, m- muh 4k" like it matters despite the unoptimization making said games unplayable.
TL;DR PKeks are mad because console gamers have fun and don't about how graphics don't look like a JJ Abrams movie.
>>319469015
free on pc retard
>>319469472
The upside of the multi-platform situation is that platforms that used to get maybe a handful of games every year now frequently get hundreds of games in that same time. Linux is already starting to be viable for gaming, and the upcoming launch of Vulkan will only improve things.
Also never forget that Windows holds PC gaming back through DirectX which locks away your graphics cards full power unless you 'upgrade' to Windows 10.
Console games are the peasant worker slaves of gaming who are actually keeping the world together despite having shitty lives. PC users are the fatcats who sit up top and contribute nothing but get the best experience.
Prove me wrong.
>>319468382
I can't be fucked to read all of your uninformed bullshit, but I'll assume you completely missed the point of why exclusives exist.
Exclusives exist on a base level to sell consoles. Companies like Sony, MS, and Nintendo, commission games exclusively for their platforms to entice consumers to be their platforms.
Generally speaking, the more sales there are, the more games a platform gets.
A lot of the time, these exclusives are made in house by the companies themselves. Creating a game in housevand then putting it on a competing platform makes no sense. That game no longer becomes a reason for the consumer to by said companies console over the competitors.
Thus these games stay exclusive to sell consoles.
Other times, a company will fund a third party developer to create an exclusive for them.
Now, simply because that developer is third party and isn't under contract to the big name companies doesn't mean the exclusive game they make should actually be a multiplat. You see, games need a lot of funding to be made, and sometimes, the games a third party dev wants to make won't get that funding through third party publishers. Thus these games aren't going to exist.
That is unless a first party buys the exclusivity of said game, as is the case with Bayonetta 2.
Platinum might make multiplat games, but Bayonetta 2 was not going to get the funding if they were intent on making it a multiplat. It simply wouldn't have even existed if Nintendo hadn't given them the money and said "here go make that game of yours".
And this helps everybody involved. It means devs get to make the game they couldn't have made otherwise, and Sony/MS/Nintendo get another exclusive to make their console enticing to potential customers. We, the consumers, also benefit because said game wouldn't even exist at all if this weren't the case.
tl;dr: exclusives exist for a reason, deal with it
>>319469912
>Devs are focusing more and more on consoles
But that's changing though, developers are getting desperate and releases their games on the easiest/cheapest platform.
But yeah, what a bunch of faggots.
>>319470097
Most devs play on PC at home.
A digital PC sale at $50 returns twice the profit of a physical console sale at $60.
>>319470317
>Most devs play on PC at home
Daily reminder that TW3 dev plays on PS4
>>319460215
I don't hate console users, I just hate the ones the spread ignorant propaganda that's all false and don't bother to listen to reason
>>319470317
9th gen will be digital only for consoles, mark my words.
I will never not be salty about getting fucking Babbyshock instead of System Shock 3.
Deadly Shadows too, and don't get me started on Thiaf.
>>319470097
If it wasn't for modding most companies wouldn't be so big now
>>319470401
Does he really though?
Todd Howard claimed to play all the Beth games on Xbox (and later 360) but he was being paid to say that, and a later interview confirmed he plays modded.
>>319470097
>Console games are the peasant worker slaves of gaming who are actually keeping the world together despite having shitty lives.
Weird, because pc is for poorfags wanting free things.
>tfw Mac user
>>319469912
>Devs are focusing more and more on consoles
Demonstrably false.
>Implying my rig isn't hooked up to my 50inch
>>319470558
lol eat shitand pay double for it
>>319470531
>build a gaming PC
>poor
>>319461437
*tip*
>>319460215
which video does yahtzee create this meme
>>319470503
>most companies
More like 2 or 3
>>319463724
>OH YES GAYBEN, OH YES STEAM, NVIDIA, EVERYONE FUCK MY ASS
>you are the ones being fucked guise, wake up!
>>319470558
Unless you specifically own a mac to work in artistic fields i don't see the point in buying it
>>319469912
Except, Steam alone made more money in 2014 than the entire console market did and that doesn't even take into consideration Origin or GoG.
Faggot.
>>319470118
>I can't be fucked to read all of your uninformed bullshit, but I'll assume you completely missed the point of why exclusives exist.
>which really means I have ADHD and can't be bothered to act like an adult
After reading your argument (like an adult, something you aren't) you mention that exclusives exist on a base level to sell consoles. This is true, but is done in a way that does not benefit the consumer in anyway, yet you brag about like a child brags about drinking pepsi instead of coke.
Games like Halo and splatoon are good exclusives. That's console companies developing their own games to put out good titles to give customers a reason to purchase their console. However, paid exclusives are bad, because companies like sony are paying millions of dollars to make sure that Xbox owners cannot play blood bourne.
As a PS4 owner, you do not benefit from it being exclusive. I'll list it out since you never passed second grade:
>BB quality does not increase in quality or content
>BB is not released any earlier for PS4
>BB does not see a reduction in price
That means exclusive or not, you get the same exact Bloodbourne for the exact same price. Sony is spending boat loads of money not on improving the quality of experience for their consumer base, but making sure that Xbox owners can't play it, therefore you are an idiot for thinking that it is good.
>>319470489
System Shock 3 is happening, though.
>>319470765
>implying yours is any better
>>319470558
>mac user
>/v/
>>319470517
Well I don't know m8, let me just pop round and check
>>319470694
witcher or witcher 2 i think
>>319470843
Got proof on that, I'm a mustard and if it's true that would be pretty good to hear.
>>319470631
>build a gaming PC
>for pirating everything.
Yes, poor. And I'm not even a moralbuyfag.
One of the big go-to arguments I see defending console gaming that I hate is the whole price of gaming PCs. They'd much rather spend $400 than $800+, so they buy the console and log onto their $400+ home computer to cry about it.
A gaming PC isn't just a gaming platform, it's a computer too. If the price of your console and home computer add up to $800+, consider buying a gaming PC.
>>319470868
It'll be shit.
>>319470880
>Im being fucked in the ass, but at least my master is not going dry!
k m8, that's really something to be proud of
>>319470854
It's less buggy because devs don't have to develop for different hardware
>>319470798
Not even for that m8
Macs have HUGE driver overhead for GPUs.
As far as I can remember it, GPU-accelerated video editing, 3D rendering, photoshop work, etc had a 40% performance loss on the same hardware.
>>319470928
thank you
>>319470953
Its just because its easier. Do you buy dvds? Didnt think so.
>>319470765
>steam has crazy sales, ultimately leading to usually 90% on AAA titles If I just wait 6 months
>service is free unlike PSN or Xbox Live
>service is also better and I can customize my avatar
>refunds exist
>mods exist
>Nvidia is garbage and AMD is better
keep deluding yourself
>>319470990
Well, it's one or the other.
It either doesn't exist, or it's shit.
>>319470996
Did I really say that? I'm just saying that you shouldn't try to act high and mighty if exactly the same thing is happening to you.
>>319471002
Are you high again anon.
>>319470953
there isn't really that many people that do this though, if you really like a game you buy it, at least that's what everybody i know does
>>319470843
Go ahead and post the source for that.
>>319470854
Bloodborne is first party. It's co-developed by Japan Studio, just like Demon's Souls.
Sony also owns the IP, thus they aren't paying to keep it off anything, and do in fact own all the rights themselves.
You might want to research a little before you post next time, pal.
>>319468782
pc has the same problem. osx offers a better infrastructure for gaming but ms throws money at devs to keep them from making tools for macs. ultimately, all the most successful platforms are actually the worst, with the exception of maybe the 3ds, which has a constant flow of AAA quality, bug free games. honestly its not so much pc vs consoles, its 3ds vs giant boxes
>>319471130
Babbyshock done right by professionals might have been good.
A fan mission pack with added nostalgia cash-in opportunities will be shit.
>>319471002
not him, but xbox and PS4 hardware are nearly identical
Multiplats are cancer. Unoptimized laggy glitchy buggy garbage. Exclusives specifically designed for one console are extremely optimized and run silky smooth with 0 issues because they're finely tuned to the system, for example all first party Wii U games
>>319470986
The thing is $800 goes a lot farther in a desktop than a laptop. Lots of people have a laptop for convenience though, so this argument doesn't really hold unless you have a desktop.
>>319471331
Xbones and polystations are just shit-tier PCs.
>>319471445
For all intents and purposes the Xbone and PS4 are basically laptops in a shiny box.
>>319471071
And yet there are people bragging about it without irony like if it was a good thing.
Consoles are easier too, but apparently that's a bad thing... but not when pc is on the equation.
>>319471318
>osx offers better infrastructure
using buzzwords isn't going to validate anything
>ms throws money at devs to keep them from making tools for macs
a good laff was acquired from that one
>>319471382
Wii U games aren't really anything that technically impressive though, they're all pretty easy on the hardware and just touched up with some nice shading to look good. Exclusives on PS4 and Xbone shit themselves and have terrible framerates just like multiplats. For instance bloodborne still has crazy frame drops all the time.
>>319460215
>Why do PC users hate console users?
I don't, pretty sure a minority of PC users hate console users
>What is the cause behind that movement?
Probably because of paid DLC, also console users get a lot more attention and are often more catered to by the developers so PC users could be jealous
>Do console users dislike PC gamers?
Probably a minority of them do, because of the bragging, could be jealous of our community
>>319460215
>Do console users dislike PC gamers?
We pity them.
>unironically even having a gaming rig in the year 2015
PC has been shit for nearly 15 years. Literally the only advantage of PC gaming today is framerate and resolution, at the cost of worthwhile exclusives, convenience, and community of consoles.
There's a reason why people become jaded and hate gaming after coming to PC. All PC fags do is jerk off to tech, play mobile tier indieshit and early access cancer, and multiplats.
Look at any steam threads and they barely play, let alone finish their games. They just play the same shitty handful of meme games for thousands of hours.
>>319470118
It will be interesting to see how the situation with Steam Machines works out. Its not just a policy decision that there will be no exclusives, its part of the actual design of the system.
The most Valve could do to push the Steam Machines would be to make those games Linux-only, and even then something like 'Line' to run Linux games on Windows would be easier to make that Wine is.
>>319471646
you've never played starcraft 2, or any RTS. You're missing out
>>319471602
remember when one of the advantages of console over pc was the availability of physical releases. It's funny when that is starting to become invalid because of MS or Sony's own online stores.
>tfw mainly play on PC but the most fun i have is on the console
Console is just beginning to feel like it has better games.
>>319471960
>I play a dead genre
>>319471172
Nah, it is an impression. PC is where you got everything for free and it is not official obviously, then Steam became a thing but that has the flaw you're not buying anything really.
Practically no one bought pc software, not even on the 90.
Digital was meant to be on pc because physical never worked.
>>319471646
Yeah if you go to any PC game forum, they never actually talk about the game, every single post is about glitches, bugs, mods, frame rates, and specs. They're too busy adjusting the settings on their gaymen PC every 5 seconds to make their eyes cum harder than actually playing the game
>>319471960
Rip that genre tho, it was good while it lasted.
>>319472161
>cherrypicking
if a game has a glitch, at least PCs have the ability to fix it. Good luck trying to fix any fuckups on the console
>>319460215
>>319460215
>Why do PC users hate console users?
I don't. It's a meme.
>What is the cause behind that movement?
Your OP image is the entire joke.
>Do console users dislike PC gamers
No, not in real life.
On /v/ they all hate PC gamers to justify their purchase of a console.
>>319471952
Now I'm curious, do you know if this factors in the revenue of league of legends microtransactions or is it the sale of software?
>>319471318
>osx offers a better infrastructure for gaming
Not really.
OS X does use OpenGL but only up to version 4.1 which doesn't include support for compute shaders meaning that games that need support for those features fake them on OS X through use of OpenCL.
Metal, Apple's low level competitor to Vulkan and D3D12 lacks support for certain modern graphics card features like tessellation.
Valve chose Linux for good reasons, full OpenGL support, Vulkan support, and with a few graphics card/driver combos you even get DX9 support. Plus the gamepad support on Linux is excellent often even getting support for Microsoft's gamepads before Windows does.
There's nothing wrong with gaming on a PC in its own right, but the modular nature of the hardware tends to attract people that think gaming is just a big pissing contest. Thus, when these people blow a bunch of cash on building powerful machines, they tend to spend a lot of time shitting on people with less powerful hardware (generally consoles), because it helps them feel better about the money they wasted. Good games exist on all platforms and hardware configurations, regardless of age and power. It's not practical for some people to own them all, so they see sour grapes everywhere else they look.
>>319472149
But that's also happening slowly on consoles, give it 10 years and mostly every game will not have a phisycal copy
>>319472313
Console games don't have glitches
>>319472328
At least someone got it right
>>319471952
That's for PC gaming as whole, not for Steam, retard
>>319472378
r u trolin rite now m8?
Where will you be when NX comes out and you connect 5 of them and blow every PC out of the water with the power of lakitu?
>>319472338
You'd be far better off going to the source for a breakdown of the data, but I think it's literally just like for like software sales.
>>319460215
Herd mentality. PCfats spends more time shitposting on forums than actually playing video games.
>>319472374
Not happening but being forced I feel.
This happens by giving power to someone who shouldn't.
>>319472378
LOL.
>>319472528
Which includes Facebook games and their in store purchases.
If you see Sonyggers on /v/ then you know why any PC user (or even any non-faggot) hates console users.
>>319472528
Origin don't post sales figures often, if at all, so it may as well be.
Although we find pc superior, we just like to poke at you with a stick a lot because of the funny reactions from you guys
>>319460215
>What is the cause behind that movement?
ANYONE who actually gives a fuck what another person plays video games on suffers from severe mental disabilities it's as simple as that.
This isn't just a jab at PC users i mean that for all console war faggots.
>>319466665
t. A kid who can't afford more than one gaming platform.
>>319472365
>mfw this post
>>319473016
You console owners wouldn't be an issue if companies didn't try the BS on us that works on you.
Straight up lying and cutting content is something you guys seem to be ok with.
You also pay for PSN/Xbl when you should never be paying for that
why PKeks don't even enjoy playing games anymore? like... at all
some of my friends changed to PC and I've just heard nothing but complains, not about the platform but the games in general
same with /v/, which is the PC circlejerk central, /v/ is such a negative place to talk about games
does PC suck your life essenece or something?
>>319470118
Thanks for sharing, exclusives make sense with this in mind.
mfw most fags discuss on this thread using some sort of PC
>>319472830
I read once a "theory" of how the success of PS as a brand was connected to Sony bringing pc games audience to consoles.
I didn't believe it at first but seeing how apparently hate games and share some traits I'm having doubts.
>>319470558
I cam here to laugh at you.jpg
>>319473187
Okay for real, consoles don't really have any interesting things going on. It's just remakes and shovelware for teenage boys. The communities are undesireable and the companies behind the platform have taken marketing, nickel-and-dime schemes, and identity integration to an insane new level.
>>319460215
it probably stems from devs toning down games and making them more accessible so that they'll play well on a console, and the PC release being affected by it.
>>319473187
why Sonyggers don't even enjoy playing games anymore? like... at all
some of my friends changed to Playstation and I've just heard nothing but complains, not about the platform but the games in general
same with /v/, which is the Sony circlejerk central, /v/ is such a negative place to talk about games
does Sony suck your life essenece or something?
>>319470118
>defending this anti-gamer bullshit
ITT: faggots confusing hate, with pity
>>319469912
>Sometimes we invite some family or friends to have with too
How's that non-existent split screen feature working out for you?
>>319473615
>literally proving my point
>>319460215
>Why do PC users hate console users? What is the cause behind that movement?
>just say the movement
basically its because console peasants are just that - peasants - if they could afford to be glorious they would be glorious
no one wants to be a peasant
basically console people started thinking they were "gamers" - just like actual gamers (pc)
pc master race rarely ever call themselves "gamers" because lets be honest you sound like a fucking faggot - and because when you own a PC it is not exclusively about turning the machine on - playing a game - and then turning it off. there is a certain lifestyle associated with what is unspokenly understood as gaming
once console peasants got games you could play online it officially was born - the envy of the peasants started to bloom
its basically ok or techincally correct to call yourself a gamer if you sit at home and play single player console games by yourself or in the company of friends.
but - once you attempt to add a true competitive aspect to console gaming you QUICKLY realize you are driving a fuckin ford pento racing other ford pentos - when there is fuckin formula one with overclocking built from the groundup-ness
your console "gaming" world is exposed for what it is. just a shadow of pc gaming. its trying to be pc gaming - basically with a lower budget
this angered the peasants
they attempted to make the master race take part in their shame and envy
THIS is why pc users "hate" peasants
basically because they are winey little 8 year olds who wont stfu about their shit tier shit shit world of gaming and want DESPERATELY to drag everyone else down with them
there will always be a divide between those who have and those who want.
>>319460215
I'm going to give you the only honest answer, OP. "PC master race" is just a meme, it's an excuse to talk shit in jest to a pseudo-rival group.
While it is by no means a perfect medium, it was and is easy to "brag" about PC gaming. There is a long list of nice little things but really, it's just all about the fact that you can steal games. Do you know what it was like do to that the first time? Let alone what it was like back when it was first starting to become widespread? It feels amazing, I mean games have never been cheap and the morals surrounding digital products are easy for most people to bend.
Then you turn and look at some poor schmoe that's still paying a significant amount of money for the same game... well shit. You might tease him just a little bit. And that's all the meme is.
>>319473820
>not just buying 4 PS4's, 4 tvs and 4 games and paying for 4 PSN subscriptions so you can play against eachother
>>319470558
>he fell for the mac meme
>>319473283
Unfortunately probably no longer true. Unless you consider mobile devices to be PCs which some of them are if you're going by the 'open platform' definition.
>>319473187
You know how the Rich complain about what they don't have and the Poor are thankful for what they do have? That's what PC and Console is right now and I shouldn't have to tell anyone what their places are in that.
>>319473187
That's honestly just your friends.
I like playing battlefield 4 on high at 144 fps, it looks really smooth and beautiful. I also play lots of Starcraft 2 and a lot of indie games.
What does a PS4 possibly offer? I don't play cod, I don't care for souls games, and all you guys have left is sub-10 hour single player games.
PC has mods and no matter how old a game is, we can still add content and improve the graphics for free.
We also have an excellent pay model of some games being entirely Free. Not free to play, just free.
Here's a game that I like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li0OCzVqjOU
This game runs great, looks great and has a lot of depth and replayability. It's also completely free and the updates it gets are community driven.
That means the game is changed and improved in a way that the community wants and is willing to create. Compare this to the Order 1886, a 6 hour game with pretty good graphics but at full AAA price.
How do you think that could possibly compare to something like UT4, which in its alpha state is a better game than 90% of PS4 games?
>>319473906
What point are you trying to prove?
>>319472378
right, its called a feature there
>>319472161
It's that just /v/ too?
>>319474149
PCfags don't enjoy games, they spend their day shitposting on /v/
>>319460215
People with no other interests or hobbies bought into brand identity bs and started to identify solely by the videogames they consume. Its just a way for losers to try and find some scrap of superiority by claiming that they are playing with their toys the right way, not realizing or caring that for most of the world playing games is just one of many things people care about
>>319460215
Simple.
PC Master Race fags, are just pretetious nerd losers, who need to attempt to denounce other gamers in an attempt to fill the void of social awkwardness or being beaten by their dad at a young age.
A game is a game. Who the fuck cares what platform it's on, if you like it, you play it.
>>319473187
As much as I love my videogames, the industry is in a really bad place for PC games right now, so it's easy to be apathetic towards, or annoyed with, it.
I'd like to blame consolefags but plenty of babbies on PC are to blame too, shelling out for map packs, especially funding pay-to-win games, and not just accepting, but supporting the things making the industry worse.
>>319474303
Then why are all the sonyggers busy not only making this bait thread but trolling all the PC rec build threads?
>>319474094
the guy in that trailer is laughably shit at UT
>having a gaymer PC
>can't even play batman correctly
>can't even play just cause correctly
>can't even play CoD correctly
>can't even play Bloodborne
>can't even play Halo 5
>>319474648
Doesn't just cause run way fucking worse on consoles?
>>319472362
I haven't played on linux in years. All I can say is, wine was a pain. Kinda has the same problem as OSX -- nobody uses it (or really very few), and it doesn't really have any support from devs.
As for OGL not supporting tesselation and shading, desu gaming is about gaming, and not shiny slideshows. I will defend this to my grave. League of Legends is ugly, runs great on OSX, and most importantly, is fun. Even Blizzard supports OSX until recently. With the exception of Overwatch, all their other games run great on OSX and most importantly, are JUST AS FUN as on Windows or Linux. It's like arguing about whether to buy MGSV on Xbox or PS because of the draw distance issue -- at the end of the day, who the fuck cares except armchair computer engineers.
>>319473938
>piper
>>319460215
PCMR is a meme that's not really funny anymore, it's said unironically more by angry neogaf users than it is actual PC players.
>>319469176
Fucking this
>>319460215
>>319474648
>buying a massive fucking TV and an armchair and a big black box and plugging in all the cables and logging in and loading up and dealing with all this shit and here i am with my stupid pc playing games that are actually good.
I mostly game on PC but I also have a PS3 and might pick up a PS4 for the last guardian or a Wii U for xeno x
I think master race is a meme which turned into bait over the years desu
>>319473165
At least with ps+ today, it helps fund other services which are free, mainly the streaming services like Twitch, and the sports channels. For the longest time, you had to pay for those services on top of XBL, meaning you ended up paying twice for the same thing.
Plus with ps+ you get stuff like that TV series Powers which is breddy gud.
>>319475224
Don't forget the 34gb updates. Consoles won't let you play games while an update is in progress
>>319475224
I have both my PS3 and my PC plugged into the same monitor, at a desk, sitting on a sofa chair
Comfy AF desu, and I have more than 2 inputs on the monitor for when I get another platform + another older one
>>319474648
P-Pc masterrace right?
>Can't even play halo5.
Yet.
Most PC users don't dislike console users or really even care. It's just the PC master race fags. Couldn't be an Xbox without Sony and couldn't be PC gaming without consoles
>>319471724
Linux runs graphics off of openGL and Windows already supports it. It's the video card companies who don't optimize openGL so that's what you'd have to worry about in the future.
>>319460215
>Do console users dislike PC gamers?
Is this a serious question? Go look at the catalog.
most people who play games on consoles are casuals
casuals are what's ruined games
example: skyrim and fallout 4 can be played by 5 year olds because they hand you everything
>get quest
>go here to solve the puzzle
>oh and here's the solution to the puzzle
>>319475490
Wow that doesn't sound complicated at all. Everyone should probably spend $300 on a big black box for two games and buy a whole PC for all the other games that exist.
>>319475873
You can be a pretty hardcore console gamer, it's called being a teenage boy with no girlfriend, job, or college degree to look forward to.
>>319471617
>Wii U games aren't really anything that technically impressive though
they don't have to be
they just have to befun
>>319476236
>i'm lazy so it means everyone is
I actually fell for the souls meme back when DeS came out and bought the ps3 for it but over the years I played some more stuff, and DeS was good enough just not as good as the hype painted it
Mostly used the DS3 on my PC though
>>319473165
Have you ever wondered they get that idea from?
>>319476424
> being a normie
> not being a NEET
>>319476424
yes, and a game like dark souls would prove that point
but most console gamers ARE casuals
that's not inherently bad, but since making games for the lowest common denominator makes you the most amount of money, it's hard for companies to not make games for casuals
>>319474648
>playing a fps with a gamepad
I've never experienced anything quite as horrible as that
>>319477265
I tried killzone 3 on my ps3 and I honestly have no idea what the fuck
>>319460215
Because consoles destroyed my favorite Genre and was indirectly involved in the death of my second favorite genre
>>319476486
They just have to look nice and have some nintendo property attached to them for their fanbase to lap it up. Their three biggest games this year were a third person shooter where your target is the floor, a single player MMO and a level editor. Fuck, I've seen tons of people shilling that badge claw game like it was a solid new title for the 3DS.
>>319475865
>lol just get a gf
let me just go to the gf store and pick one out
>>319475865
The funny part is BB is the best PS4 game currently out but its sales are pitiful, most people bought a ps4 for fucking uncharted and other mediocre crap
Soulsfags really are a frustrated vocal minority, and I feel for them, kinda, the games are pretty good, but they themselves are huge cunts
You are the equivalent to putting speed limiters in cars because some retards who shouldn't be driving somehow got themselves a car.
At least this is why I detest consoles and the people who spend money on them. Consoles are like the dark ages in terms of the advancement of video game and computing technology.
>>319469912
The portability of consoles is actually a huge advantage over PC.
I move my console around ALOT I mean Im basically bringing my PS4 eveywhere with me and moving it around the house because people are using different TV's for different things. I simply could never dream of doing that with a PC, I would have to ask for people to come into my room to show them something.
PS4's ergonomics is really compact and quite sleek. Great portability a very underrated feature of consoles. It really is just plug and play
>>319475849
Yes it actually sucks because OpenGL 4.5+ is ahead of Direct3D 11 in features so if companies would stop using D3D more people would actually get the full feature set of their GPUs.
We can only hope that Vulkan, which is open like OpenGL, but with a workflow and API more like Direct3D 12 will take off with developers. Its supposed to be released sometime this month with all the GPU vendors pledging driver support on Windows and Linux day 1.
>>319478137
>not just limiting speed with gearing/aerodynamics
my jeep can only do 100mph and it doesn't have a limiter
it's just a brick that operates best at 45mph
>>319478270
>it really is just plug and play
It takes more to start up and play DeS on my PS3 than DaS on my PC
But yeah portability is ok
>>319475354
> it helps fund other services which are free, mainly the streaming services like Twitch, and the sports channels.
I already paid for those with my internet. I watch twitch streams and twitch runs ads, giving money to the streamer and to twitch
yet you say it's funding these "free" services lol
>>319477116
What's good for gamers is accessibility, and consoles just aren't accessible anymore. They're all riddled with customer loyalty programs and monthly subscription fees and season passes and preorder bonuses and DLC/GOTY packages and Facebook integrated accounts and accessory apps for your iPhone.
It's needlessly convoluted in a community where console gaming is really supposed to mean:
>buy box
>insert cartridge
>player 2 has entered the game
>hours of drunken mario
I know it's not the 90's anymore and that's okay, but nobody should be pretending that there is such a thing as "console wars." It's corporate collusion, and it's actually illegal: both sides agree to raise barriers to entry in the market, then raise prices steadily while lowering product quality. They give you the illusion of choice, then sell you all the same games anyway.
>>319461437
>instead of seeing them as machines that have supported game development for over a decade, they were now seen as obsolete pieces of hardware designed by greedy companies to hold back their gaming experience.
Well, I mean, that's literally true. In previous decades platforms had specialized hardware that would have different results from their competitors; now, both the PC and the xbon/PS4 use more or less the same standardized architecture.
>>319478712
>buy xbox one for battlefront
>battlefront sucks, childhood ruined
>buy halo 5, maybe this will be okay
>4 hour campaign
>mfw coulda had a v8
All this bickering from poorfags who can't set aside $2000 every five years for all the consoles -and- a top-end pc
If you had the cash, why wouldn't yet?
>>319460215
I don't hate consoles or console gamers.
I hate the bullshit attitudes everyone has about their chosen medium.
>>319480146
I just want to say that building a mostly new pc and throwing in a year old top end gpu is one of the best ways to do it
or you can go full madman like me
>>319480308
Looks pretty fun, what do you do with all that RAM? Cache the entire game?
>>319480257
Fucking this
>hurr i have x u wont get it evah hehehe!
>hurr i have y u wont get it evah hehehe!
>hurr u sux bcuz x
>hurr u sux bcuz y
totally not frustrated in the slightest when you defend your platform of choice rabidly on the internet
guess idorts are the only normal people left on /v/
>>319480308
I'm triggered by that image
>>319480438
>what do you do with all that RAM? Cache the entire game?
chrome mostly
>>319480571
>I'm triggered by that image
why
>>319480146
That's enough money for 33 new games that you're blowing on plastic paywalls to play a very limited number of exclusives. You don't have to be poor to see that's a terrible value proposition for you.
>>319480663
holy shit i never knew
I can have 50 tabs in firefox and RAM use never goes above 4GB.
I do have chrome around for mega though...
PC fags wanted a library of 2000 $5 games and thats EXACTLY what they fucking got lmfao.
Proper AAA game development is nowhere to be seen on the platform that is already in for a severe 2016 drought of games.
>>319480917
You know there's tons of shit coming out on PC, right? Way over half the things shown at PSX are on PC and there's a bunch of AA games with no marketing coming out early next year.
>>319460215
Nope. It is just sonyggers starting to cause this whole mess.
>>319480886
I also do this
>>319480849
Depends on how much money you got. For some people the price of games is not even worth thinking about.
I'm not that wealthy, but I'm saying this whole 'debate' infesting the entire gaming internet is mostly miserable bitching about money. It's not even worth speaking about. Who wants to read this shit? No matter what board you go to, you can't get away from it!
>>319478137
Only this guy has an actual reason to dislike consoles.
>>319480663
Mostly the dual xenon thing implied for gaming
>>319480917
Whew lad, guess you will miss out on mount and blade 2
>tfw when not a platform exclusivist
Feels good ;)
FACT: There is about equal shit-throwing from Sonyggers and Mustards on /v/
FACT: There's more than 6 times as many Mustards as Sonyggers on /v/
ONLY LOGICAL CONCLUSION: PCfags simply play and enjoy games to a much greater extent than Sonyfags
SIDE NOTE: Nintenyearolds actually have the lowest shitflinging/population ratio
>>319481497
xeons are perfectly fine for gaming, they're basically higher binned i7's with the useless iGPU disabled/removed
with that setup the limiting factor for how many games I can have open at once is my gpu's limit to render shit and physical monitors
Because it makes people cry
>>319481579
>soniponies will read this chart as ''your only gaming platform'' because they genuinely think you aren't allowed to buy 2 or more platforms
Why do they think like this??
>>319481681
your ram timings must be tight as a virgin
>>319481681
But wouldn't having 2 of them be totally useless for gaming ?
>>319481579
>There is about equal shit-throwing from Sonyggers and Mustards on /v/
Nah, Sonyggers did it worst than the entire platforms combined.
>>319481852
ram speed has little to do with fps unless you're using a iGPU or your pc is shit
>>319481893
the only thing I can think of is if the game would be running solely on the second cpu, due to it having to pass instructions through qpi through the first cpu
at most I'm probably loosing 5 fps over a similar single socket configuration
>>319481893
he runs several games at a time lol
>>319473938
>all this blah blah bullshit just to say your platform has no games.
>>319470558
You brought this upon youself
>>319481090
>this delusion
lmao
20 tick rate is going to kill this game. CoD1 and 2 had 50. CoD BO1 and 2 had 30 because it's consoleshit - and everyone complained about dying around corners.
Battlefield 4 had 30 and now got support for up to 144 over all the complaints.
Competitive gameplay at 20 feels like shit, it's going to be the main source of frustration, in particularly when dealing bursty characters.
They could have made it into a great casual PvE game at 20Hz but for copmetitive game it won't earn them any fans. People will die a few times around a corner and then drop it.
>>319460215
Because consoles are apparently holding back video games. This doesnt stop PCfags for begging for ports of console games though
>>319464873
>>319475865
if that doesn't immediately come off to you as some serious flase flagging shit or an elaborate photoshop then you are dumb. This is coming from a PC user.
