http://www.gamespot.com/articles/tokyo-mirage-sessions-fe-team-talks-atlus-localiza/1100-6441341/
GS: "A portion of the Western audience that appreciates Japanese games become very upset when any content in a game is altered during the localization process, regardless of how big or small the detail may be. When adapting a game for Western markets, does that affect how you go about designing some elements? Or do you ever feel like you have to strip away things that are central to the game's identity or purpose, just to make it a viable product outside of Japan?"
>Hitoshi Yamagami: "Each country has its unique culture and taste. There are times when common sense in one country can be thoughtlessness in another. However, if we create a game with only that common sense that causes no problems in any of the countries, it can be a very boring game."
>"From among the various complex tastes of people worldwide, the developer selects settings and characters that appeal to as many people as possible. That being said, it is true that as we build up the settings and characters, we are sometimes obliged to change something in part of the game. This optimization does not destroy the identity of what we as developers want to convey. Developers would not accept such drastic changes. The changes made during localization are optimizations intended to bring to as many customers as possible the things that we want to convey. No major changes are made that would change what we want to convey."
GS: "Nintendo tends to be very hands-on with the projects they help out with, but what drove the decision for Atlus to handle the localization and not Treehouse?"
>Yamagami: The games that Atlus translates bring out the atmosphere of Atlus very well. The games that Nintendo translates bring out the atmosphere of Nintendo. With the text of this title, we wanted to bring out the atmosphere of the games that Atlus creates, as much as possible. That is why we asked Atlus to do the work of translating the text. The Development Team is convinced that fans in the English-speaking world will find the game full of expressions typical of Atlus games.
thoughts, lads?
>>343197493
Sounds to me like they wanted to limit the inevitable rape of content to the bare minimum. Just be glad about it. Now you won't be exposed to the horrible mind-corrupters commonly refered to as "boobs", with another added benefit that you won't encounter any memefied dialogue sperging by treehouse that makes your eyes bleed.
I can't believe they censored my anime game! Fuck!
>>343197732
The game still has plenty of boobs
That's nice and all but I'm not spending 60 bucks on a half-translated censored game. I'll just play the uncensored pirate version.
I never thought I'd see Atlus try to justify censorship.
NoA really bent them over.
Those are very dodgy responses.
>>343198286
I think what Atlus went through with them we'll never get another SMTxFE again. Not even hopes for a version everyone wanted.
>>343197835
DELETE THIS!!!!
>>343198708
>that filename
lul, that's what I get for downloading pics off Google
>>343197404
They should have asked "what the fuck happened to SMTxFE?"
>>343197732
>#FE doesn't have boobs!
This meme really needs to die. The gravure dungeon was changed because of the overtones of it (A girl doing her best to impress a stalker by stripping down) there are still plenty of boobs in the game, it was really just that one costume.
For example, this dress here is actually usable in combat and it really emphasizes Tsubasa's tits. She also has this outfit with booty shorts. The game's fine, despite what you may have been told.
How come shitposting regarding censorship is always allowed to happen for Nintendo games but never for other companies?
>>343198963
How about
And this is a pretty obtuse tactic I'll admitYou all just ignore censorship shitters? They just want you to reply. They've managed to ruin the discussion for Fatal Frame, Bravely Second, #FE and Xenoblade X, which were all good to great games that we simply can't discuss here.
>>343199157
The problem is that censorship posting takes over all discussion and its impossible to talk about the game proper
Its a meme now that when you see a thread about a game that has been labelled as being censored all you can do is post saying how bad censorship is and thats it
>>343199307
Ignore it. Or reply "okay, whatever". Who cares what they think?
>>343199157
Oh no, now that the game is actually OUT, they don't really have a leg to stand on. I've been really pleasantly surprised by #FE threads so far. Lots of great discussion about game these days.
But it's important to acknowledge all of the 'criticisms' as bullshit.
>>343199338
The thread will devolve into a censorship discussion no matter what you do
>>343199423
Bait them back then. Or ignore it. Or report it.
If we, as a community, want to discuss a game, we have to fight back from this shit.
>>343199342
>I've been really pleasantly surprised by #FE threads so far. Lots of great discussion about game these days.
Really? I need to lurk moar it seems
>>343199480
The best way to combat it is just to enjoy the game.
>>343199342
>I've been really pleasantly surprised by #FE threads so far.
I honestly haven't even tried to discuss it, so far. I'm waiting to see if a general takes off on /vg/.
>>343199157
You don't know? "Censorship" discussion is the new Tortanic on /v/. Just go look at the Street Fighter threads after Juri's reveal.
>>343197493
>That is why we asked Atlus to do the work of translating the text
But who did the assets
Treehouse?
>A game that only teenage weaboos would be interested needs to be changed to appeal to the nonexistent general demo NoA believed they could pull in
>>343198963
>A girl doing her best to impress a stalker by stripping down
I dont get it, she gets off at being stalked?
>>343199583
What if I want to enjoy it AND discuss it?
>>343199630
Okay.
>>343197835
>>343198963
It's jarring that they'd even bother censoring boobs here but not there.
>>343198973
because people who have a ps4 or xbox one not only have access to 1st party games but also 3rd party games to spend their money on
but people with wiiusonly have 1st party games to play on the wii u land the ine up for the year is complete shit
so instead of the attention being split across several games it's concentrated towards one game at a time
>>343197404
I wonder why Neptunia and Xseed games can keep their "identity" while nintendo games can't, i guess it has to do with not being shit at localizing games but who knows.
>>343199157
>FFV
>BD
>XCX
>Good
LOL
>>343199423
Then you and your fellow game enthusiasts aren't discussing it hard enough.
>>343199756
Well regardless, I'm going to be shitposting about censorship in every God Eater, Star Ocean 5, Street Fighter V and any Vita gen thread I see from now on.
Eye for an eye, etc.
Hold on a sec
Your telling me ATLUS purposely did the localization and censoring and not NoA?
>>343199871
Good luck
>>343198963
>it was really just that one costume.
>>343198973
Every single company has it, it's just that Nintendo tends to censor games more often.
>>343197706
>Poor man's Persona
>Has little to do with FE
>Idolshit
>On the Wii U
>Localization is a slew of inconsistent and questionable decisions
They should've just let it die.
>>343200001
Thank you
>>343200087
>Couldn't even sell in idolshit land
>They think they can make a niche title appeal to a general audience in the west
DEAD ON ARRIVAL
Am I missing something when it comes to getting Prestige?
I keep hitting sessions but it seems pretty random and inconsistent when I get it. I'm on Chapter 3, and most characters are on their first side story finished if that's any use. I heard one of the characters gets an ability that makes this easier, but which one?
>>343198973
because nintendo is region locked. We don't even have a choice.
>>343200370
Street Fighter V and Star Ocean 5 were both censored worldwide.
>>343199845
>Dark souls requires actual skill unlike other games. *tips fedora*
>>343199748
>on /v/
>wants to actually talk about games
You're killing me
>>343199480
>report it
And my sides have left the building
>>343200551
Is projecting that someone criticizing shitty games a dark souls fan a meme at this point?
>>343199875
Yea, but NoA (not Treehouse) did oversee it to some degree. But we'll just blame Treehouse because we love our anti NoA memes.
>>343197404
Dubfags BTFO
>>343200480
You think we like that. Star Ocean is in that strange position that XCX was in that if you don't buy it then no more games of that series but if you do buy it then they think censorship is okay.
>>343200551
Even trash like DaS require more skill than the average Atlus title barring EO and SMT.
>>343200756Do you really want more SO games? Honest question. The last 2 now have been crap and Tri Ace have shown they don't know how to repeat what made 2/3 so good
Persona 5 confirmed to get censored.
>>343199776
Those two are comfortable with the niche they have.The scripts are butchered in other ways.
Is is possible to run pirated games from an external HDD or only Micro SD's work?
R.I.P. Persona 5 in the west.
>>343200756
I hate that there's a line drawn on /v/, though.
For example, I don't give a fuck about censorship. As long as the core gameplay and immersion is intact, I couldn't care less. I want to see more Xenoblade games. I want to see more Fatal Frame games. I'd love for Bravely to become a full fledged series.
But even mentioning this mindset on /v/ is like welcoming a hornets nest on your location. And yet, Star Ocean 5 is A-okay. Anything Vitagen decides to shill, in spite of similar censorship to Nintendo games, is A-okay. It's literally okay when other companies do it.
>>343200868Tri-ace games scratch a itch for me that other games can't so I put up with it.
>>343200709
>>343197404
Time for a breakdown:
>"Each country has its unique culture and taste.
Okay, fine, that's a rather DUR HUR statement.
>There are times when common sense in one country can be thoughtlessness in another.
Yes, America is quite familiar with this due to our being the "melting pot" of the world, even with our insular ideals. There are many, however, that take that insularness to the extreme, birthing blind prejudice and hatred due to fear of not understanding.
>However, if we create a game with only that common sense that causes no problems in any of the countries, it can be a very boring game."
So...you are FOR making games with controversial ideas that will challenge certain peoples with broadening their minds and releasing their prejudices. Then...?
>"From among the various complex tastes of people worldwide, the developer selects settings and characters that appeal to as many people as possible.
Another non-statement.
>That being said, it is true that as we build up the settings and characters, we are sometimes obliged to change something in part of the game.
Yes, that's called the design process. So?
>This optimization does not destroy the identity of what we as developers want to convey.
Again a non-statement.
>Developers would not accept such drastic changes.
(Insert Konami joke here).
>The changes made during localization are optimizations intended to bring to as many customers as possible the things that we want to convey.
So, localization changes are the same as design changes, so therefore "shut the fuck up". I beg to differ. Idealy, design changes are done to better illustrate what the developers wish to convey as a better product. Localization ignores the developers input completely and allows an arbitrary third party to decide what should be conveyed.
>No major changes are made that would change what we want to convey."
Except letting the world see the sexploitation underaged teens and tweens endure in your super-profitable industry.
>>343201057
>>343200968
Jap voices will be censored
>>343201057
>tfw CFW PS3
>>343199776
Neptunia and Xseed in general pretty much rewrite their entire scripts for western audiences. There's such a disparity between them that it's not even funny.
They don't get targeted for censorship shitposting because the tits aren't censored. That's it.
Pirates.
If i happen to get any DLC for this game, can i use it with the uncensored patch version?
>>343201192
>tfw no CFW PS3
>>343201160
Okay?
>>343201195
>They don't get targeted for censorship shitposting
Do we browse the same board? Because Xseed gets shit on everytime a Neptunia game comes out.
>>343200968
>>343201057
Persona 5 won't have Nintendo breathing over their back though.
Reminder that pirating games on the Wii U is literally dropping files onto an SD card and opening a webpage to start up homebrew.
>>343201314
And yet you can still discuss Neptunia games on /v/. The censorship shitposting isn't relentless enough to slide discussion.
>>343197404
Do they realize that when SMT IV final comes out and is not censored, it will confirm that nintendo forced them?
>>343200868
Really? The only aspects of The Last Hope I really disliked were the voice acting (which aren't anywhere NEAR as bad as Arc Rise Fantasia - which I grew to love) and that it was just too fucking long (120 hours before I get to the bonus shit? Fuck you).
>>343198963
The thing is that this only makes their other changes even more absurd.
Why censor tits in one cutscene and then leave a regular gameplay appearance alone? Why randomly pick and choose like this?
>>343200968
>>343201057
Just like Persona 3/4 and all other SMT games right?
>>343201068
Nintendo tend to be more heavy handed with its censorship and they tend to do it in ways that remind us of 90s early 00s censorship. People are kinda tired of it. You also have to consider most of the people complaining about censorship tend to watch and read fansubs/scanlations so they're pretty much used to things being risque so censorship feels like coddling to them
>>343201301
OP wanted my response, that's my response.
tl;dr version: The guy is a hack and full of shit. Hope I dumbed that down enough for a typical v/virgin.
>>343201628
>persona 4 came out 8-9 years ago
2008 was a better time for video games. SJWs and people who get triggered by everything didn't exist.
>>343201068
i just don't get it why you need to change things and call it "localization"
>>343201619
This.
But if theres still plenty of fanservice then i might go pick it up
>>343201751
They did, they were just focused on Comics.
>>343201454
>>343201314
xseed is consistent in their bullshit and everyone knows what to expect, treehouse always does something new
>>343201805
Because for the average video game enthusiast, you want to play a game from start to finish without researching shit on Wikipedia. I had no idea what Gravure modelling was, or why it was such a big deal for a pure and innocent music idol to suddenly do it until I looked this shit up. If I wasn't invested in the story, then I wouldn't have bothered and would have been very confused in that chapter.
>>343201912
Plus Treehouse rewrites everything into that quirky, "I'm so clever" tone they do every time.
>>343201751
SMT IV also came out 3 years ago.
>>343198963
So what I get is that some fan service is still there but the adult tones in the plot were changed and censored? Thats way worse than just removing skimpy costumes. That literally affects the game itself.
Thanks, I thought for one moment it was mindless bikini censorship and now I know its something worst. Something I wouldnt even pirate.
>>343201619
Because the tits themselves have nothing to do with the changes.
The changes were made due to the context of the scene, not because they were afraid of sexualizing characters.
There's a reason people are struggling to find any notable changes past chapter 2.
>>343201195
>>343201020
At least the script is kinda understandable since a lot of the jokes would get lost in translation anyways but at least the rest of the content is mostly unaffected.
>>343201994
The average videogame enthusiast wouldnt buy this game. So fuck off. The ones that would buy the game know very well whats an Idol.
I'm still butthurt that it's not SMT x FE so I can make Aleph fight Nephenee or some other goofy shit.
I'll probably buy it used for $5-10 in a few years though.
Is this really how people see gravure books? Like fucking connoisseurs of photography feeling awed from looking at semi-naked girls?
I call fucking bullshit. This whole game is bullshit in how its trying to portray a rotten industry.
Whoever made this has no right to be talking about different cultures when he's displaying his own in the most retarded way possible.And no, I don't support butchering at the altar of localization. Hence why I'm pirating with restoration patch. Game just chose the absolute worst premise.
>>343202202
The average teenager is allowed to watch PG-13 movies with worse shit than that.
>>343202286
Knowing what an idol is =/= knowing the ins and outs of the cultural acceptance of idols.
Am I the only one who just doesn't care?
I've tried to, but I just can't. Wow, I can't see a digital girl's panties, time to be irrationally angry.
I can understand story stuff somewhat, but different cultures have different ways of describing things, so whatever, but most censorship discussion always revolves around outfits, so I just can't care.
It just seems like nitpicking and this place will find any excuse to get angry.
>>343202193
Are you stupid we've known this for months.
>>343202202
You are making the game look worse by saying the plot and scenes were censored instead of just costumes.
>>343198973
Because it's not as common so you don't see it as often, one, and two every other platform is region free so there are other options. SFV and Overwatch got censored but I can't think of many others at the moment.
>>343202306
The pain will never stop, bro
>>343202317
Okay?
>>343202378
I'm with you. I just don't care. This is the first good Atlus JRPG on console in years, and I'm absolutely enjoying it.
#FE didnt get hit with any censorship, they switched out the shitty swimsuits for some outfits 10x better.
game now appeals better to the western market, calm down weebs
>>343202193
I never said that. The story is unchanged, they just needed to change the costumes for a certain sequence.
>>343202243
2 things can happen here.
1.They stick with the original script, and show new audiences why the jokes are there, and fill the viewer with curiosity and make them look it up,refering them to where they can learn about it and better understand another culture.
or 2. Fill it with a fucking soulless meme for one quick pointless and cultureless chuckle.
I prefer 1 personally.
Had it not been for this game and Fatal Frames censorship, i'd have been completely oblivious to Japan's Gravure model industry.
Idorus are sluts.
>>343202378
If you dont care about plot in a plot focused jrpg, then fuck off. This goes beyond your funny downplaying of the issue as lol digital girl's panties.
>>343201805
Calling it localization "proves" that they were just doing their jobs.
Basically, it's a cop-out since no one can actually justify censorship.
Are they desperately trying to get users to play the Vita at ShillSpot ?
>>343202510
I bought a VN the other week that is pretty heavy handed in its delivery of the original Japanese script and doesn't fuck around with throwing Japanese words and customs at you
What it DOES do is allow a form of translators notes where if there's something that you don't understand you can click the word/phrase and it explains the context.
Not sure how you can do this in a JRPG, but I'd like that option.
>>343202489
>The gravure dungeon was changed because of the overtones of it (A girl doing her best to impress a stalker by stripping down)
Sorry, but that affects the meaning and impact of the themes.
Its like faggots trying to defend Bravely second when the least of its issues where the censored costumes and not the quest endings completely changed.
>>343202594
None of those idolus are sluts
>>343202597
You can swear up and down that most of the vitriol about censorship isn't about lewd outfits, but you all know it is.
>>343202378
My problem lies with the fact treehouse is telling me that I'm too stupid to comprehend cultural differences and that even in a game rated T some bikinis and scenes are too much for my western brain. Not only that, they have the power to bar DLC for games they localize by using that same "Westerners just won't get it/will get offended" tripe. Monster Hunter's localization team is ass but I'm glad they don't think they can just cut me off from content (barring the quests and armor that can't come over because of licensing bs) because of their own faggot morals
I'm not spending 86 fucking CAN$ on this censored piece of shit. Jesus christ Nintendo get your shit together and stop appealing to people who won't even buy your goddamed game.
I was willing to buy this game while waiting for P5 but noooooooo. Of course we aren't allowed to enjoy anything.
>>343202510
>Had it not been for this game and Fatal Frames censorship, i'd have been completely oblivious to Japan's Gravure model industry.
Same here. I have a tertiary knowledge of Japan at best, but goddamn I'm not going to sit with my phone and Google at the ready just to follow the basic plot of a game.Or hentai doujin, for that matter
>>343202775
>loli idols
>not sluts
Thats crazy talk man.
>>343197404
>optimization
>>343202510
I prefer 1 too but i guess it will never happen.
>>343198963
>(A girl doing her best to impress a stalker by stripping down)
That's not what happens at all. Have you actually played the game?
>>343202830
Okay?
>>343202690
Play Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth.
It's extremely similar to this game in presentation graphics, and glorifying of otaku bull shit.
But what i had noticed, is when you're sleuthing and talking to your PI boss, she refers to A FUCK TON of japanese mythos, and actively tells you to look up specific names and places to learn about it.
>>343202473
>first good Atlus JRPG on console in years
First Atlus JRPG on consoles in years, true
Good? I don't think so
>>343203020
>Good? I don't think so
It's very good, yes.
>>343202885
They're pure, shut upExcept Ami and Mami
>>343197404
>it can be a very boring game
So they are saying that the localization is a boring game, wow.
>>343200662
>LOL
This is not a valid criticism anon
Don't listen to their lies. Nintendo fucked this up royally. If this had been on the PS4, it would have been a much, much better game.
>>343202825
>Monster Hunter localized by Treehouse
>Game is delayed multiple times because of long it takes them to censor all the armors
>>343203134
I think what happened is bullshit but fuck the PS4.
Glad I pirated it
Does the theory that Treehouse made these changes so they'd get paid for more work hold any water?
>>343203062
It isn't
I know you are desperate to like it because you are thirsting for JRPGs on your Wii U so you accept any mediocre game they throw at you but it is mediocre at best
>>343203352
Okay?
>>343197404
From amiibos, rehashing, and to this, all it shows is that for the NX I'll buy a cheap one off ebay with version where I can install CFW on it.
>>343202378
I'm with you, changing a few cosmetics has zero influence on the game and I have no idea why anybody would be so butthurt over digital tits
>>343203217
>the horns on this helmet look vaguely similar to a penis I drew in my notebook in highschool, remove them.
It's hard to care about the censorship since you can easily get it uncensored with a fan-made patch.
It would have been nice if the patch was official so people could pay for it rather than steal it but it still works out well for us.
And while that interview states that it is not their intention to create bland and homogeneous games, that is inevitably the long term result of Nintendo's strict control over spicy content in their games.
Those are my thoughts.
>>343203402
>rehashing
t. Color Splash/Ryse of War pre-orderer
>>343203301
Your feelings don't matter. Sony does a lot less censorship and the PS4 is stronger. The wonky graphics, the lack of translations, the censorship probably wouldn't have happened. We'd have an excellent game that would tide us over for Persona 4. Instead we get a weird game with not many big areas to explore and better romance.
>>343203458
I do plan on buying #FE when it's cheaper, but is the means to uncensor tedious at all?
I aint jumping through a bunch of loops to get it working, Im lazy+retarded
>>343203458
I don't really care about the stiff as fuck translation they put over it in the patch. If there were a way to keep the Treehouse script and get the other costumes I'd maybe consider it, but after watching a few scenes with that awful script...I can't play a game of that.
Treehouse script >>> fans script
>>343203458
Not worth the effort to keep an age different. 18 is a better age anyway. It makes me feel less old.
>>343203579
The current exploit is child's play.
You put a program on an SD card along with a patched copy of TMS #FE.
You put that card in your Wii U.
You go to a web page and click a button.
That's all you do.
It's a soft hack not new CFW so your Wii U reverts to normal when you turn it off.
>>343203634
Get out treehouse, you're not welcome here.
>>343203521
PS3? Vita? I'd be fine with those. I just hate the fact that they added onto the paid online bullshit.
Shitposting aside, is the gameplay fun?
I can deal with not seeing titties (its not like they're very good in this game anyway), but seeing that they went out of their way to do shit like re-record lines to fit age changes, and then not even fucking bother to subtitle the battle dialogue just pissed me off.
>>343201057
>>343200968
>>343201628
None of the Persona games have been censored before, there's plenty of tits, ass and fanservice in all of them, Catherine wasn't censored either. Nintendo have nothing to do with Persona 5, it won't be censored if earlier Atlus games are any indication.
>>343198963
That's not what happens in the dungeon at all.
Even if it was some bullshit that would be too heavy for the poor western audiences doesn't mean it should be censored
Daily reminder, this will keep happening as long as people keep shelling money.
>>343203751
>Readable and enjoyable script that at least flows well by Treehouse
>Stiff as fuck literal translation probably made in Google Translate by fans
Why would you even want a stiff as fuck script? Talk me through it. It must be a weeaboo thing.
>>343203761
No, it's generic Persona dumbdown
I keep hearing this Is a better and more polished persona 4, does this hold ANY truth?
>>343203634
(You)
>>343203806
Persona games have been censored. Why do you lie?
>>343197404
>obliged
every time
>>343203863
>Untranslated battle dialogue
>Treehouse ever good
Fuck off back to your treefort retard.
>>343203761
Yes, very. Dungeon crawling is like Persona 4, but with actual puzzles and shit in the dungeons. Battle gameplay is fantastic with a lot of scaling.
>>343203806
Depends what your definition of "censorship" is. If the #FE shitposting is to be believed, it extends to script as well, and in that case, you might want to play Persona 4 in Japanese to see the extent of the damage done to it.
>>343203719
Chapter 2 was severely censored.
The patch reverts it all and adds a new translation to keep it accurate to the original Japanese story arc.
It's more than just the ages and costumes.
>>343203876
It's pretty much Persona but replace One Mores with passive EO chasers that the enemy can also use.
>>343203806
I think one has, but they apologized for it. not 100% sure on that though
>>343203876
Yes. It's Persona 4 without the VN crap, a much better and punishing battle system, and (arguably) less shitty characters
>>343197404
This article is fucking garbage. The interviewer doesn't have to be rude, but either politely press for comments on the actual changes or--from the standpoint of a supposed video games news website--don't post a story that's ultimately nothing more than PR drivel. But really, this story is essentially click-bait, so haha, I guess we're the fools.
To be clear, though, Hitoshi Yamagami is the Nintendo employee. Even putting aside the evasive answer, what the fuck else was he going to do other than promote the product his company is publishing.
It's really sad that no game news outlets are ever really willing to take Nintendo to task on their bullshit.
>>343197404
Yeah it'd be boring to not censor the game
>>343203868
Can you elaborate? I never played persona and #FE looks fun enough
>>343203806
Why did you quote me I said exactly what you said.
>>343203761
Poor man's Persona. Just wait for 5.
>normalfags weebs who are into anime but hate lewd
>normalfags weebs who are into anime but get triggered when japan sexualized underaged characters
Western animefags need to get gassed.
>>343203806
>Persona hasn't been censored
>Persona 2
>Persona 4
Are you even trying?
>>343203757
It was inevitable. However, the PS Network is a lot better for it. At least that's my opinion.
>>343204021
Maybe I'll check it out then. I just don't mind certain changes. Jokes, ages, and the stuff like that doesn't bother me. Changes because of pearl clutching and libcucks are a completely different story.
>>343204236
>>343203868
>I've never played this game but I'm going to drop an opinion anyway!
If /v/ stopped doing this, traffic would hit a standstill
100% sure that the script of P5 is going to be censored.
>>343204279
what was censored in 4?
>>343203876
Session combos are better than one more, but everything else is worse
>>343204002
Sounds good, thanks anon
>>343203761
Not as fun as Odin Sphere
>>343204278
t. /hebe/
>>343204365
Same here.
>>343204409
t. self-hating weeb
>>343204278
Not everyone is into your weird loli fetish, freak
>>343203912
Explain, what have they censored?>>343204279
What was censored in 4? All I remember is Troy Baker saying that AtlusUSA was told by Atlus Japan to make Kanji's homosexuality less obvious, but he's hardly a trustworthy source.
I dont give a fuck about his excuses because in the end of the day if thats what they feel is right then I will simply tell them they are wrong give it a nice pirate and play it uncensored.
Not going to argue with this bullcrap anymore pirate it and let it bomb and show them that they are retarded.
>>343204465
no u
>>343204409
>>343204465
what is this t. SHIT?
>>343204507
Just because you're not into it mean you need to be triggered by it, criminal scum.
>>343204507
Perfect example of a normalfag weeb right there.
>>343204634
>BWAAAAAH NORMIES NORMIES
Grow up
>>343204279
The only Persona game that was censored was the first and they even admitted it was a mistake.
>>343204518
They changed a characters entire race you know that right.
>devs themselves say it isn't censorship
>devs themselves say it doesn't majorly affect their ideas for the game
>devs themselves are okay with the changes
So are you saying that the devs are wrong about their own game, or are you lying to your self in order to keep up the censorship boogie man you've invented to have more ammo against the SJWs
>>343204565
initiated version of "terveisin"
finnish for "best regards"
ex.
>t. Alberto Barbosa
>>343204507
>>343204709
Who cares if you're not into that? Just ignore it you fucking cancerous faggots instead of wanting it to be removed because it hurt your tumblr feeling or something.
Its funny how you guys don't even realize that you are the SJWs that you hate so much.
>>343204746
You mean the one that speak english in the japanese version but spanish in the english version? That's hardly censoring.
>>343204790
>devs want people to buy their games so they have to make up shit
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>>343204790
>So are you saying that the devs are wrong about their own game
Absolutely.
>>343204790
If you think they would bad mouth their own game before knowing if it's a success or failure then you're a fucking retard.
When this game does lower than expected sales, if there's an interview you will DEFINITELY see them back pedaling.
>>343204790
Here's an incredible but most likely thought: the devs are lying.
No one is actually going to be happy about his art getting butchered or being indirectly being called a fucking pedo, you poor, gullible fucktard.
>>343201195
The games were originally translated by NISA before XSEED picked it up, they're just going with the established style because changing it now would be too jarring and wouldn't make sense.
>>343204581
>>343204801
>>343204634
daily reminder this is what all lolifags are into:
http://exhentai.org/g/859049/1117e3ca34/
>>343204871
I didnt know we got to decide what is censored or not.
>>343205051
Yeah, that suck, but that doesn't mean shit in the end for a videogame.
>>343204905
>>343204926
>>343204956
>>343205012
>"N-no way the devs could be okay with it they HAVE to be lying. T-the SJWS had to have done this ;-;"
>>343205051
>doesn't even have the lolicon tag
Better try again shit eater.
>>343205165
t. treehouse employee
>All these people talking about pirating
T-That's possible now?
>>343205278
It's been possible for a while now. I'm surprised more people don't know considering how easy it is to do on the Wii U.
>>343197404
I don't think his comments really line up with the facts.
>>343199157
>Bravely Second
This wasn't good though, this was a definite step down from the first one in the story and soundtrack at least, mechanically its pretty normal
>>343205187
lel
http://exhentai.org/g/822190/992fb09652/
>>343205165
>Artist being okay with censorship
Shit that doesn't exist. Stuttering won't get you anywhere.
>>343205051
>>343205147
>>343205187
What is it? I'm on a new computer and can't be bothered to bypass the panda.
Its crazy how many people defend censorship. What the next victim on NoA list?
>>343205273
If I was a treehouse employee I wouldn't say the game is fucking shit. It's fucking shit sempai.
Which is another reason I'm willing to believe the devs. This isn't art, you fucking idiots, it's a product made to sell money, and after it failed to do that in Japan, they want to make sure it sells better here.
It's not, because it's a shitty game on a shitty system, but I understand what they're trying to do.
>>343205429
I refuse to believe they really did that. I think it's the same in the real game as the Japanese version.
>>343203217
Didn't one of the characters in 4U imply they'd fuck one of the monsters?
>>343205470
What point are you even trying to do here?
http://exhentai.org/g/937727/1ee374423f/
>>343205525
What's the next weeb game financed by Nintendo? Actually I don't think there's any left.
Did atlus USA localize it or Atlus japan?
>>343205525
Nothing, there's no more big games coming out on that trash console.
>>343205429
This is 4kids tier.
>More advanced Persona with idols
YES
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
>>343205642
Dragon quests.
>>343205545
except theres people like me who chose not to buy the game because of censorship
>>343205742
That's square only.
>>343205740
>More advanced
>Instead of a weakness system that makes the game dogshit easy once you get a variety of personas we'll replace it with sessions that gets easy to pull off once you get a variety of skills
http://pastebin.com/Yubh69uQ
>>343205831
Like Bravely default/ second? :^)
It's published by Nintendo, so get ready to get fucked. I truly worry for DQ8, oh wait i don't because im going to fucking pirate it and uncensor it.
>>343205802
You people are such a fucking minority it's hilarious, though. Most people aren't going to buy it because it's a shit game with a shit premise.
>>343197404
So the problem is they give the job of localizing to totally retarded fucks then...?
>>343205525
Kek nothing.we will wait half a year and some for whatever the fuck they are gonna shit out with NX which has been insanely quiet because you can tell the devs are afraid to announce it has another gimmick.
>>343205889
Better than ";)" nigger.
>>343205689
ATLUS USA handled the text localization, ATLUS Japan handled the content changes, as directed by some portion of Nintendo.
Nintendo babies sure love to get cucked but hey you guys seem to enjoy it so whatever.
>>343205937
and then most of the people who chose not to buy it are pirating+patch, and it seems theres a decent amount of people on 4chan atleast, doing that. I think you wouldnt be able to mention pirating a wii u game on any other forum beside this or a wii u iso site
If you're upset about this "censorship" I hope your parents die.
>>343206131
>Defend amiibos
>Defend lazy localizations
>Defend rehashes
>Defend Nintendo being out of touch with the industry in general
>>343206124
maybe atlus japan thought wedding dresses with cleavage in the states is offensive for some reason, because japan doesnt care about other cultures except their own so they slap some shit together and call it a 78 hour work day
>>343205525
Federation Force
>>343206296
>TMS cast amiibos
To be honest bruh, i pirated the game and i'd probably buy those.
>>343206296
>>Defend rehashes
t. Color Splash/Ryse of War pre-orderer
>>343204391
>overwatch got a 9.4
>>343206254
>supporting censorship
I hope your parents die.
>>343206346
what if one day they turn samus into a transgender ftm to gain the lgbt crowd? I could see NOA doing it
>>343205187
>implying the neonazi who shitpost on internet stereotype isn't of a fat neckbeard obsessed with 2D lolis
I detest censorship, but I will eventually pick this up when the price falls and sit it on my shelf to play in a few years time
>>343206382
I want a tsubasa amiibo and maybe a chrom amiibo cause it looks cool as fuck
>>343206513
The WiiU is easy to crack, just download it right now with the uncensored patch.
>>343205932
It will be on PS4 too
>>343206502
never
now stick your autism with zelda.
>>343206625
Chrom amiibo would be baller, he's edgy as fuck but having him next to Robin and Lucina would be too perfect. Too bad Nintnedo, as usual, is fucking retarded.
>Tie TMS amiibo to skin unlocks, make profit on both product and dlc addition to a game
>>343206639
Elaborate please.
>this thread
Why is /v/ so triggered by loli? Especially in a thread about a japanese idol game. I don't see idolmasterfags getting mad at loli.
>>343206296
Amiibos are ok
I won't, they are losing their respect
The whole industry is made of rehash, not only Nintendo
Yes, indeed, I have to agree
>>343206513
>Price drops
Will never happen old as fuck games for the Wii are being sold for $60
>>343206502
same day nintendo puts metroid on a PS2 or sequel-ize Other M
>>343206806
I would do lewd things with Mamori.
>>343205349
Link to relevant GBATemp thread, etc?
>>343206806
loli is wrong and you should feel bad
