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Meguca
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http://www.mediafire.com/folder/l7qp2j028n2uc
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I finished "the different story"

I can conclude that Kyouko and Mami are great as friends/family

Good spin off overall, wish Mami had gotten more focus in the anime
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So the threads are alive again?

Cause we sure haven't gotten ANY new yuri doujins in a while.
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>>2001529
More like there are none being made anymore.
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>>2001544
>none being made anymore.
There was a Madoka Only event yesterday and a MadoHomu Only event just got announced for June.
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>>2001252
The Madoka franchise is about five years old now. I'm more surprised that people are still producing ANY fanworks for it at all.

Fandom is pretty fickle for anything that's not Touhou or Kancolle. Granblue Fantasy is pretty big right now too, but we'll have to see how long that holds people's attention.
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>>2001252
If you're bored: TtS updated recently again; KyoSaya has finally been concluded, with exciting future possibilities
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>>2001631
Wait, what?
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>>2001673
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7406866/
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Kyosaya doujins are simply delicious
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>>2001608
There's a ton of doujins but no one is uploading them and sure as hell no one is translating them.
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>>2001569
What are these events you speak of?
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>>2001955
Doujin event like a smaller comiket where all the books are about (Series/Coupling/Character) only.
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>>2001919
>Kyosaya doujins are simply delicious
Because Pikachi draws them all
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>>2001972
Neat. I hope we get some new content. These two are my favs.
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>>2000989
Still waiting for the anon that promised to upload Homura Tamura.
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>>2002127
Sorry, I completely forgot. I'm uploading it to DropBox and will paste the link once it is done.
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>>2002127
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkggc98t2wzruvl/PMMMHomuraTamuraVol1%2B2.zip?dl=0

Tamura 1 and 2.
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>>2002163
>>2002174
Thanks, I'll be sure to forward it to the archivist.
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Is it weird not to like MadoHomu as a fervid Homufag? My OTP for PMMM is actually KyouSaya.
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>>2002346
I wouldn't say so, though I am surprised your OTP doesn't include her at all.
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>>2002353
>you can have multiple One True Pairings
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>>2002357
What if a character has canonically been in a relationship with more than one character and you ship them as they were at that point in their lives?
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>>2002353
I may have worded it the wrong way. I do like the idea of HomuMado because Homura can only really be happy if she's with Madoka. In that sense I do "support" it, but I just can't get myself to ship it. For example I'd prefer it if Homu ended up alone and somehow still found happiness.

pre-Rebellion HomuMado used to be my OTP. Rebellion simply ruined it.

>>2002354
I do like HomuKyou but only as a BrotP.
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>>2002377
honestly now that it's a few years out, I love Rebellion. I was mad at the time, but that possessive, covetous, forceful sort of love is great to watch.
it's real as hell, too, in the same way everything in the relationships in Madoka is 'real' - that they're a relationship that could actually exist, but then with the consequences and pressure on the girls wound up to cosmic proportions. which is sorta what real life feels like, in a way, at least when you're a kid. Rebellion is just another face of that.
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>>2002388
I wasn't even mad. I was just shocked. Shocked and disappointed that Homura's beautiful love would be corrupted in such a way. The final episode had Homura coming to terms with Madoka's wish, she had made peace with it even though Homu missed Madoka terribly. And while I do think that the development Homura had in Rebellion makes sense, somehow I feel that it wasn't needed at all. It feels that it should have ended with just Homura's soul being lead away by Madokami where they would be reunited and be together forever in Yuri Valhalla.

And now what do we have? Their relationship being corrupted beyond repair. Madoka is forgiving enough that she would understand why Homu did what she did, but that is how Madoka is. Truth is, Homura did a lot of things wrong (she's my favourite character, flaws and all). And I can't help but see an ending in which Madokami will eventually regain her powers, reset the universe again, and lead Homura away to Yuri Valhalla. Something that should have happened during Rebellion.
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>>2002391
I don't think it has to be so simple for us to get our happy ending, though. and I love stories of forgiveness and redemption. don't even have to resolve itself quickly, either. or even that way!

the story could have ended right at the end of Rebellion, and I'd have been happy for it, but I'm also happy that we're going to get more out of the characters, even if it means that we don't get the happy resolution that would logically come from the pre-Rebellion story.
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the spin offs are nice, but it's always been the more broken parts of the girls' relationship that kept me interested, since the early episodes of the show were airing, and I don't get that as much from the characters from outside of the main group.

like, the couple that WERE about the main group were fantastic! - and maybe we could have gotten more content that way without Rebellion, but I'm sure there's gonna be tons more official pre-Rebellion content, too! basically, keeping the story going is good no matter what, if you ask me.
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>>2002391
>I can't help but see an ending in which Madokami will eventually regain her powers, reset the universe again, and lead Homura away to Yuri Valhalla.

Urobuchi agrees with you. He said that is an epilogue to the series though. His goal was to make a continuation. While I think there is a segment of the fanbase still ass mad about Rebellion and that any sequel would be "undoing" Rebellion event wise, this doesn't mean the characters will stop growing.

Madoka really hasn't done anything for Homura. Rebellion was her duty and obligation to save magical girls, not something done to save Homura. Does Mado come to love Homu when she realizes how important she is to her? Can they come to terms with their seemingly incompatible wishes? Can Madoka fix Homura's self-loathing? Do they go to the Law of Cycles or create something new? Are they destined to be separated forever?

Does Sayaka's quest for justice and wanting to return to the LoC harm her relationship with Kyoko? Will Homura and Sayaka put aside their differences for Madoka?

Do Mami and Nagisa ever become relevant? (hint: maybe)

There's still a lot of stuff they can do before that end, with repairing MadoHomu being a big one.
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>>2002612
>Do Mami and Nagisa ever become relevant?
With all those posters about the Concept Trailer, maybe Mami will be relevant.... (just because she's the second most popular Madoka character)
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>>2002641
Yeah, the NewType interview said she would have a central role. I personally think she will be doing the fighting on Madoka's behalf. Sayaka is getting some sort of paladin armor and from the Law of Cycles and Devil Homu is Devil Homu.
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Mami being relevant and the third central figure in Madoka Concept Movie feels like total shameless pandering, like loli Charlotte in Rebellion.
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>>2002683
Yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about her being a central character. I'm glad it's not a Sayaka-centric project, but I'm pretty neutral on Mami. Things definitely feel like they're coming toward a true end in the concept movie though, so I guess it would make sense to develop the least developed character..
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>>2002695
Maybe she's the least developed, but she's the second most beloved Madoka character
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>>2002699
I don't need to be reminded.
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>>2002704
She has.... two powerful reasons of her popularity
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>>2002699
But yeah, I don't really care either way if Mami is a central figure. I trust Quartet to make a compelling story. I just want the devil to find peace.
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>>2002706
Was it me or where these reasons bigger in Rebellion?
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>>2002709
Everyone's reasons were more emphasised in Rebellion.
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>>2002712
So if we know they were in Homura's labyrinth, and that Homura is a lesbian, then were the boob, leg, and crouch shots just Homulilly being a voyeur cameraman?
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>>2002709
With CLOSE-UPS!
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>>2002683
>like loli Charlotte in Rebellion

I thought that was so Mami wouldn't be the 5th wheel anymore.
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>>2002683
I wish Kyouko would get more relevancy
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>>2002716
Makes sense to me senpai
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>>2002852
She will. Unless they just completely drop KyoSaya, Kyoko will definitely have to play a relevant role.
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>>2002719
The moment all Mami fans were waiting... and were slightly dissappointed
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>>2002961
I was pleased with it.

Because it was screen time. ;_;
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>>2002706
Mami is one of my favorite characters, and it isn't even because of those two reasons. but it's probably because of me looking for subtext that isn't there in the series.

as long as she's not the lead, though. very prominently featured is fine, but I gotta get that Homu.
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>>2003097
Mami is probally the only character whose actually straight. Unless you consider her a pedo.
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>>2003102
She has a little bit with Madoka and a bit with Kyouko if you count TDS, and then Charlotte if you somehow think she is not her mother.

But yeah she is probably actually straight.
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Its probaly

Sayaka=Bisexual (Urobchi likes Bisexual character as shown by Iskander/Alexander from Fate Zero)

Kyoko=Lesbian

Homura=Lesbian

Madoka=Pansexual

Mami=Straight
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>>2003102
Silly Anon, heterosexuals can't be magical girls.
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>>2003119
>Madoka=Pansexual

Literally what, Madoka's never shown to be in multiple relationships or interested in multiple partners.
This feels like a tumblr headcanon out of the water.

Mami's never shown to be romantically interested in anyone so I'd say asexual at least.
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Pansexual – (adj) a person who experiences sexual, romantic, physical, and/or spiritual attraction for members of all gender identities/expressions"
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>>2003119
>Madoka=Pansexual

Can we just say bisexual? There's no reason to say pansexual unless she develops a romantic attraction to kyubey.
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Eh. Madoka seems like a person who wouldnt care about anything. Her love is boundless.
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>>2003102
>Unless you consider her a pedo
who says I don't?

no, but, she's not necessarily straight. she has a lot of yuri going on in the first three episodes, and the kyomami manga, if you ask me.

besides, there's no reason to assume she's straight. it ain't like she's Sayaka and makes the terrible mistake of liking a dude.
(not that I think Sayaka is bi. just doesn't actually love violin, just thought she did because she's like, 12 and an inexperienced lesbian.)

>>2003150
>she develops a romantic attraction to kyubey
damn, spoilers

>>2003152
my love is boundless if we're being jerk-off philosophical about it, I still only wanna kiss other girls.
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Madoka is obviously homusexual. I'm really disappointed at /u/ today.
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>Madoka
>anything sexual
She might be a closet Homu-sexual though
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>>2003156
LOL Your love may be boundless but your arent the goddess of Hope. Just saying I dont think gender would be anying to Madoka.
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>>2003156
>she has a lot of yuri going on in the first three episodes,

No she doesn't but go ahead and try to point that out.

>the kyomami manga,

You mean the Mami and her kouhai manga and there's nothing about homosexuality in there.

>she's like, 12

Sayaka's 14, least try to be an actual fan of the franchise.

>>2003157
In early timelines she got close to Homu instantly.
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>>2003159
yeah, the goddess of hope, who goes around giving girls, and only girls, sweet release and sublimation of self, as part of a wish dedicated to the girl who was hugely romantically interested in her, who struggled for her for a decade.
that totally includes dudes.
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>>2003161
>No she doesn't but go ahead and try to point that out.
nuh uh. I've totally had relationships start like that when I was a sad teen.
>You mean the Mami and her kouhai manga and there's nothing about homosexuality in there.
are you even gay, sis?
>Sayaka's 14, least try to be an actual fan of the franchise.
:-)
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>>2003157
>>2003161

Yeah, any timeline Homura's not actively keeping Madoka away from her, they're close friends REALLY fast. Even in the timeline where she actively pushes her away, Madoka and her still have an innate connection. I don't expect that to change at all and I don't know how /u/ is missing that today.
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>>2003166
it's because of all the god damn boys, don't know shit about yuri.
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I like to think Madoka was in love with Homura because she was Homura and not a girl. Like how Himeko views Chickane
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>>2003165
>nuh uh. I've totally had relationships start like that when I was a sad teen.

Yeah, that doesn't prove anyting on what you imply about Mami but rather yourself.

>are you even gay, sis?

Not relevant.


>>2003171
Clearly you don't know men.
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>>2003175
it's very relevant.
and I do know men. hence I know they don't know shit about yuri. you're welcome to observe, obviously, but sadly, you'll never really feel that pure love that is yuri.
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>>2003174
Ultimately, I think that will be the case canon. Homura needs to know Madoka wont leave her anymore and loves her just as much back, and that's really the only way to get it through Homu's self-loathing head.
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>>2003185
I don't think it'll end up being that simple! trauma does weird stuff to people, she probably doesn't believe that she deserves love or forgiveness. otherwise she wouldn't be trying to play up the whole devil thing. and that's without how severely crazy she is now.
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They kinda imply it in Rebellion (and Madokas voice actress confirmed in an interview she loved her regardless if shes the devil)

"No matter what happens your still you. And I would never abandon you."
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>>2003183
Crawl back to whatever tumblr blog hellhole you came from, onee-san.
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>>2003187
Did I say it'd be that simple? I said that would be the ultimate case in canon. Homu needs to know she's not being given forgiveness and love because Madoka is a push over for anyone. She'd be doing it for her. At this point Madoka doesnt even know what she is along with the reasons you stated. There's still a ways to go.
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>>2003194
Going further along with that, the Japanese version is "No matter what happens, Homura-chan is Homura-chan." It's very specifically aimed at Homu and not just what she'd tell anyone.
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>>2003202
true, sorry for assuming stuff
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Sayaka is obviousky bi. Not sure why people love to argue about whether she's lesbian or straight
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>>2003311
She's also a slut, but you're right let's not bring that up since they're separate things.
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>>2003102
>implying you can become a magical girl if you don't like munching carpet.
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>>2003327
>a slut
What kind of lose fucking standards would you have to have to label Sayaka as a slut?
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>>2003377
you have to really hate girls.
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>>2003378
>Hating girls
>Browsing /u/

What the fuck?
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>>2003327
>>2003348
Don't cut yourself with that edge, butthurt poltard.
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>>2003378
What if I like sluty girls, anon? What then?
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>>2002716
The whole theme of Homu's Labyrinth was cinema, so probably.
>>2003409
I don't think they thought that far ahead
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>Sayaka is a slut
Come on /u/, today is Sayaka Day. Be nice to her!
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>>2003327
>>2003348
Just stop.

>>2003499
Isn't today Kyousaya day in Japan too?
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>>2003579
No, just Sayaka's
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>>2003631
Kyouko Day's the 9th, isn't it? (Miku day as well)
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>>2003632
I think so, but I don't get why March 9th is considered Kyoko's day
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Mami can't possibly be straight.
She is my waifu after all.
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>>2003759
It's not a coincidence that every girl she trains with ends up a lesbian.
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>>2003796
but Sayaka is bi.
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>>2003688
Why is today Sayaka day?
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>>2003797
Bisexuality is fine anon.
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>>2003797
If she it was a childhood crush and she never looks back at men again, is she really bi?
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>>2003853
She had feelings for a guy and has feelings for a girl now. Yes she is and will always be bi even if she stays with Kyouko until death.

God man, you guys are just as ignorant as those who claim lesbianity is just a phase.
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>>2003862
I was seriously wondering.
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>>2003862
If she isn't sexually attracted to boys/men anymore and is attracted to a female/females then she is gay and no longer bi, by definition.
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>>2003886
Not to stay too far from our favorite gay megucas, but this is what I thought. We don't call a homosexual who once had a crush on or went on a date with the opposite sex in their youth bisexual if they've since chosen to exclusively pursue the same sex.
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>>2003886
>>2003895
No such thing as changing one's sexuality. You won't go around saying that someone who always dated the same sex and as an adult dates the opposite is straight or vice versa you know?
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>>2003146
Mamifags are losing their shit over this.
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>>2004017
>not losing their head
Come on
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So why is Homura selfcest not really a thing? Or even multi-Homura doujinshi in general. I've always wanted to see Devil Homura bully Moemura. Forest Village did something like that last year and I've wanted to see more.
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>>2003150
Pansexuality is when you're only attracted to pans.
It's very similar to lesbianism, in that both pans and vaginas are concave.
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>>2004038
Then Madoka by definition is not a pan because Homura sure as hell isn't a pan.
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>>2004042
Right? Maybe I should learn to draw and put this into action.
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>>2003119
>Mami=Straight

There is like, zero evidence for anything either way.

If anything she gets off to being a big sister to girls.
That's like, a sexuality here.
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>>2004066
Good thing Mami has her Bebe.
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>>2004197
Homura bullying Mami is something I haven't seen anything of up until that pic. [Spoiler] I think I like it [/spoiler]
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>>2004203
Have one of mine then.
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>>2004197
>Futa
>On this board

She hates herself, so it makes sense to me that she engage in some sort of hateful masturbation.

While I do enjoy SubHomu-DomMado, I think Homura needs some angry sex with Madoka to help work out her devil issues.

In terms of bullying other characters, I'm honestly worried about the new project because I think most of the characters derserve it. The few doujinshi I've seen with Devil Homu doing this leave ambivilent. I'd feel bad for Mado and Kyoko because they never meant to cause her problems, but there is just so much baggage for Sayaka and Mami that I almost welcome it.

>Inb4 they don't remember it and you can't hold it against them
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>>2004203
I've seen two, but one is het and one is tentacle.
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>>2004203
Homura bullying Mami is severely underrated.
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>>2004256

Is it crack if Ume drew it herself?
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>>2004271
Just ignore him, anon.

He thinks "The Different Story" is also crack, despite it being officially licensed.
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It pains me that my MadoHomu maikos dont hold hands.
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>>2004251
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>>2004317
>Soul gem play

Fucking lewd, nee-san.
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>>2004321
Will try to tone it down.
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>>2004329
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>>2004330
Scans never
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How gay was the Joan of Arc spin off?

I only ever read the first thing for it but it had potential.
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>>2004333
Not very. There's a bit of humor and the Homura insert is most likely gay, but it takes a back seat to the story. It's one of the better mango.
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>>2004339
Even in her previous lives, Homura was gay.
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>>2001100
Kek
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>>2004333
Is it fully translated anywhere? This was picked up right as our major scan/tL group disbanded.
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So I heard Madoka and Homura are dressed in a white and black dress, respectively, in Concept Movie B. I'm going to scream if Quartet is fucking with us.
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>>2004363
I have the first two volumes on my Kindle. I can upload it like I did Tamura if you give me a week. As far as I know, it's still ongoing in Kirara.
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>>2004367
Yeah, I know it's the funeral dress, but I too hope it serves that function.
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>>2004377
There's already a version floating around. However, scans are awful. So if you can provide one similar to Tamura, that would be fantastic.
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>>>2004364
All cool with two lovers fighting over the universe, but will Junko approve?
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>>2004403
I've honestly wondered this. The series never gave Madoka a chance to say good bye to her family and if Junko and the family were to discover what were going on, how would she react?

While everyone elses parents range from dead to absent, Madoka actually has a family. Homura didn't. She just sacrificed her one and only. I think Junko is open minded enough to accept that her daughter is gay. Not so sure that she'd take the "my daughter is god and the devil is in love with her" news so well. The PSP game says she does like Homura though, and she jokes that Madoka talks about her like "she found herself a lover."
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>>2004393
Will do.
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>>2005055
>Stop triggering me:the post
Just close your eyes
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Who does /u/ prefer on top?
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>>2005237
It's tricky. They're both excellent on top and on bottom (but particularly as tops).
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>>2005237
Madoka obviously, especially after some moral degeneration caused by say Mami or Nagisa.
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>>2005240
That's a good point. They both fill the roles well.

>>2005244
I lean toward this direction. When has Nagisa ever contributed to the moral degeneracy

>>2005266
Mah nigga
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>>2004203
>Homura bullying Mami is something I haven't seen anything of up until that pic
I know right? It's hard to find that sort of thing. Homura turning into a devil seems to have made it even more rare.

>>2004222
I've seen much more blatant stuff go untouched, so I thought it would get a pass. It's one of the few images where Devil Homura actually acts like a devil.

>She hates herself
Not true.

>SubHomu-DomMado
Easily the worst thing about the fanbase.

>The few doujinshi I've seen with Devil Homu doing this leave ambivilent
Then why are you so worried? They've given so much justification for Homura to seriously do something like that. There's maybe a few where she does it lightly. Most doujin writers fall all over themselves to write about Homura's tearful apologies and submission as Madoka's slave pet, it's so lame.

>I'd feel bad for Mado and Kyoko because they never meant to cause her problems
Kind of agree, but Kyoko did a lot of other bad stuff. I guess I think she would accept it or want it in some way. Madoka might actually be similar, but for different reasons. They're attracted to Homura in their own ways.

>but there is just so much baggage for Sayaka and Mami that I almost welcome it.
It's one of those things. Their baggage tends to destroy them, so someone like Homura directly interfering can balance it in a way. Take it far enough and you end up with something like >>2004208
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>>2005284
>Not true
You're joking, right? Her familiars are literal embodiments of her self-loathing. They refer to Homura as "good for nothing". She is suicidal by the end of the film.

>Easily the worst thing about the fanbase

It's a throwback to timeline one. And considering the shit thread on /a/ right now, I can say with certainty it is not even close to being the worst part of the fan base.

>Most doujin writers fall all over themselves to write about Homura's tearful apologies and submission as Madoka's slave pet, it's so lame.

I kind of agree. But Rebellion's ending kind of implied that. It's not like she's become Edgemura or anything. It apparent she's torn apart inside. I would like to see more in the doujins where she is sexually dominant and aggressive.

>Rest

I was refering to how the few doujinshi that do these things make me feel ambivilent about the continuation of the series. Doujinshi wise, and I may sound like a bad person, but I feel like Madoka just has to accept Homura's devil love. She said Homu would aways be Homu, amirite?

There isn't enough Mami stuff. I read one awhile back that was with Sayaka, but it had Kyoko getting NTRd and Kyoko being to afraid to say anything about it. I like Kyoko so I wasnt to big a fan. I'm Homu>Kyoko>Madoka>Mami>Sayaka.
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>>2005272
wait so was madoka stepping on homu and not having fun?
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>>2005473
Apparently so, mark of a bad goddess if she can't get into stepping on her subordinates as a reward/punishment.
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>>2005473
No, Madoka wanted Homura to step on her. Homura played it up, but Homu wasn't really comfortable with it. Madoka proceeds to be the top for the next half.

Ayanero Taicho Tatami Ouroboros Duo.
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>>2005473
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Mami's dating a elementary school girl.
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>>2005508
>Official manga ending

They aged her up to 12 for Rebellion from 8 in the series production notes. 15 - 8 was asking too much.
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>>2005507
>dat Unleash Magic
The legend truly never dies.
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>>2005510
Are kyoko and sayaka holding hands in this or do I need to rub the sleep off my eyes?
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>>2005633
Possibly. Kyoko is holding her bag, but Sayaka's hand is obscured. Hanokage is overall faithful to the script and story, but he definitely ratchets up the gay a good 20%-30% or so.
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>>2005673
Hanokage knows what the fanbase wants.
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>>2005918
The hero we need.
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>>2005967
top kek
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>>2005983
I like how they throw in jokes like that from time to time. With Kyubey's whole "I dn't get it" in Rebellion, I will die happy if Madokami subtly tells Homucifer she didn't do anything wrong. I don't know if that's a meme in the Japanese fan base though.
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>>2005237
Homura. She's always pushing the limits and going far beyond normal in pursuit of absolute victory. It's in her nature to top, in my opinion. Madoka is too kind and pacifist, she'll always be a sub in my eyes.
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>>2005316
>You're joking, right
No, and worse I think it actually ruins the character, forcing some kind of self hating apology trope. It's probably a Homuhater conspiracy desu.

>Her familiars are literal embodiments of her self-loathing
Wrong way to look at it. They are part of the world, and they only really appear with the nutcracker witch. It's better to think of them as the minions of the theater, not Homura insulting herself. The literal translation doesn't help. Inu Curry really confused the hell out of the western fan base.

>They refer to Homura as "good for nothing"
Not Homura, only the nutcracker witch who's only purpose is to carry out her own execution.

>It's a throwback to timeline one
Not true. Madoka is simply not like that. Yes, I think she would be submissive to glasses Homura, who would somewhat clumsily top her.

>And considering the shit thread on /a/ right now, I can say with certainty it is not even close to being the worst part of the fan base.
That's like a bored group of social fans, they're harmless. I'm talking about the part that makes fan works and can wield a lot of influence. I think it's a big reason why there's no interest in doujins, most of them fall into this influence. Even the people who normally translate doujins have gotten tired of it. Luckily a decent amount of fan art seems to escape this, at least I think.

>But Rebellion's ending kind of implied that.
No, it implied the opposite. Homura will never submit to Madoka, even if they become enemies.

>It's not like she's become Edgemura or anything.
Is it only a choice between totally sorry or "Edgemura"? Both are an insult.
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>>2005316
[continued]
>It apparent she's torn apart inside
Maybe in like an dark way. There are hints that she still has some heart, but they are subtle, contained, and or in private. Her attitude is either calmly in control or playfully sinister. The promotional art, the interviews, they all show or talk about how scary Homura has become, not about how she's torn apart. (Insert joke about who's really torn apart here)

>rest
I realize now I probably shouldn't respond to every single line like that. I may have misunderstood you a bit, but I still think your worries are misplaced. I'm worried it might go in the other direction. I feel like other characters will only grow to be more liked, while Homura becomes more misunderstood or disliked, hopefully I'm wrong though.

As for the devil love thing, I mostly agree, and I don't think it's bad. It's like a sick form of justice against the original ending. Madoka becomes goddess, Homura must accept it and fight on for the greater good. After rebellion, Homura becomes devil, Madoka must be picked apart and opposed for the greater good.

Yes, we need more Mami stuff. That one with Sayaka was kind of nice, but playing perfectly to Sayaka's feelings is still soft. I remember people being disappointed of the lack of hatred or any harshness from Homura. I guess those who firmly ship Kyoko and Sayaka would see it as much darker though.
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>>2005237
Homurambo. I had never been able to see Madoka as anything other than sub, and I had been with this franchise since the first episode aired.

Rebellion movie just cemented this with the pseudo-rape scene.
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Prior to rebellion, I'd have said Homura on top every single time, but after rebellion I just see Homura as thinking that she'd barely be worthy to be Madoka's subby bitch, and probably would deserve the perviest shit Madoka could do to her.
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It's a movie.
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>>2006166
Looks more like a typo. In the text above it says still says 叛逆 and 謀叛 also means Rebellion.
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>>2006122

Anon, I really don't know how you came to the conclusion that Homura isn't suicidal, mentally damaged, and heart danaged. It's beyond blatant. The clara dolls are still present in Homura's new world and bully her when present.

Homura will be the villian, but I don't think this will end in anything less than an apology in some form and reconcilation. She does owe Madoka an apology for betraying her.

Those same interviews go out of their way to point out Homura's decision was made due to her psychological state and not that she literally became an embodiement of evil or darkness. Of course she still has a heart and feelings.

>Doujin community wielding influence

I dont know about the Japs, but why would butt hurt doujinshi scanalators wield any large influence? Because the doujinshi arent as dark as they want? Why should the Japs care?

She tells Sayaka to fuck off and live a good life. She tells Madoka she wants her to be happy even if she comes to hate her. She's barely qualifies as evil and is up against the most forgiving being in the universe.

>Homura will never submit to Madoka

I don't think she has to or should really. That wouldn't be a worthwhile goal. She comes to that conclusion they'll be enemies after asking a question with no context to a Madoka who is a stranger with no memory. Madoka's response is as even more invalid than the in the garden, but it serves to further twist a knife in her soul. Simply returning Madoka to the Law of Cycles would be stupid anyways because Madoka's existence as the LoC is literally a fate worse than death as stated in universe, so there has to be something more than just going back.

>Homura becomes more misunderstood or disliked

I doubt it. There's little sense in degrading your most popular character.
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>>2006166
Are we really expecting it really be anything else? I wouldn't turn down a new season, but I don't think Urobuchi has it in him to write a full season and so much of what made season 1 great can never be done again.
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>>2006169
Place holder perhaps? They don't even have a script ready to go. I doubt they have a working title.
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>>2005508
This is a degeneracy-promoting material.

>>2005983
When I finally die, I want Miki Sayaka to lower me to my grave so she can let me down one last time.

>>2006146
Same Rebellion movie also feature Madoka pushing down Homura on the boat. Also, the series implies the reason Madoka is attracted to Homura is because Madoka wants to be a knight in the same sense that Sayaka is Kyousuke's knight.
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>>2006120
>>2006122

>No, and worse I think it actually ruins the character, forcing some kind of self hating apology trope.
>Wrong way to look at it. They are part of the world, and they only really appear with the nutcracker witch. It's better to think of them as the minions of the theater, not Homura insulting herself.
>Not Homura, only the nutcracker witch who's only purpose is to carry out her own execution.

How can you even.

Like I know a lot of people have to watch rebellion more than a few times to understand it and whatever, but Homura's self loathing is so obvious I don't see how anyone could miss it. Off the top of my head I can remember at least three times she puts a goddam gun to her head or soul gem.

Homura's witch's goal being to kill herself repeatedly isn't something that just came out of nowhere or was randomly drawn from a hat. It came from herself. So did the familiars being negative aspects of her own personality as she sees it, and the scene where she hatefully crushes herself into paste while crying, and the scene where those parts of her personality take their shoes off before leaping off of a ledge, and so on.
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>>2006178
Dont forget the concept movie has a Swan Lake (a ballet that ends in suicide) motif going on along with the whole ribbon in the tree thing (a reference to Aokigahara).
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>>2006177
>Also, the series implies the reason Madoka is attracted to Homura is because Madoka wants to be a knight

To be honest, I never got the feeling Homura didn't want to be Madoka's princess. It was Madoka's martyr fetish that forced her to have to reverse those roles.
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>>200615
Doujinshi in which Madoka rapes Homura until she accepts that Madokami IS Madoka.
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Just finished screen capping Tart. Will post the link on here sometime later today or this weekend.

After rereading it, I'm convinced that Tart is the most anime worthy spin-off that isn't TDS.
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>>2006365
Jehanne is hot right now, what with grand order, and Drifters.

I'd like to see her as a magical girl.

And gay.
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>>2006456
Damn spell check. I'm pretty sure Riz is gay for Tart. Tart is more or less Madoka but without the subtext. It's a good fantasy story though.
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>>2006456
where did you get that? the scans that I have are small.
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>>2006729
Am I the only person who buys the manga? It's from my Kindle. My iPad screen caps in high res.. I screen capped all the pages. I'm going to post the PDFs for Vol 1 amd 2 tomorrow.
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Can someone recommend some good Kyosaya fanfics?
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>>2006195
Hate to be that person, but could I ask for the sauce on this doujin? Reverse image search is coming up with nothing.
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>>2005237
Most definitely Homura. But I'm biased because I relate to Madoka and am subby as fuck.
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>>2006785
Thank you sis.

I might buy the physicals now though.
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>>2006832
saucenao
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>>2005237
Top Madoka is the best. Homura would try to top but would be too flustered to go anywhere. She's too whipped.
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>>2006832
http://touch.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=55720039

No problem. It's on Pixiv.
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>>2007101
You say that is American Madoka, but Americans get triggered by manual transmissions.
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>>2007203
it's all people drive in the pacific northwest. I had to learn after i crashed my car. now I can drive all of my friends cars.
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>>2007395
Brazilian Madoka. Honk Honk.
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I stand firmly in the "Akuma in the streets, Moemura in the sheets" camp.
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>>2007448
Very much so.
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>>2007452
Madoka should have just fucked her right there and solved everything.
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>>2007457
The fate of the universe literally depends on yuri.
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Who would top between Mami and the elementary school girl she's dating?
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>>2007496
Mami for a while until Nagisa grows up and develops a thirst for domination.
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>>2007494
I didn't even notice the bedding. Holy shit.
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>>2007467
Having watched the show a couple of times now I genuinely feel like everything is Godoka's fault. Should have just taken your girlfriend to yuri valhalla in the first place.
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>>2007765

It was nee-san. Rebellion's ending was directly caused by Madoka's words in the garden. Granted Madoka didn't remember anything when she said them.

I do agree this would have solved the prolem, but Homu wasn't despairing yet so it wouldn't have been possible. Homu at the very least deserves forgiveness and a kissu for the shit she's been through..

General
I uploaded Tart vol 1 and 2. Enjoy!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vh9lukqhty03rbp/PMTM1%2B2.zip?dl=0
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>>2007765
It's all Homura's fault for spilling everything to Kyubey instead of just shooting herself in the head.
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>>2007830
>No proof Madoka or the witch world existed
>Satisfying curiosity is illogical


I'm pretty sure this is going to be why Kyubey decides to take the ramblings of the Head Priest of the Church of Madokami seriously.
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>>2007503
>>2007494
I think the padding is there to make it seem more like a coffin
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>>2007765
>Should have just taken your girlfriend to yuri valhalla in the first place.

But that's not what Homura wanted.
It's probably not what Madoka really wanted, but she was more flexible about it.
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>>2008013
Homura wanted to save Madoka. Looks like nobody got what they wanted.
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I think episode 12 went put of its way to show being a concept sucked and the little hints from Nagisa and Sayaka made it seem like "heaven" ranged from lame to awful. The concept movie seemed to double down on that. Homu DID do something wrong in the context of Rebellion, but I dont doubt she'll be vindicated in the long run.
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>>2007496
The elementary school girl, of course.
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>>2007494
Well, considering that everything that exists in that world is a manifestation of Homura's desire...
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>>2007819
thanks anon
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>>2008097
not in this relationship
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>>2008100
*pomf* What are we going to do on this boat, Madoka?
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>>2008204
We're going to trib until you're pregnant.
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>>2008218
Miracles and max are real.
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>>2008214
this guy pushing MamiNagi hard while nobody else seems to care. God bless him
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>>2008220
Who would be the stay-at-home dad and who would be the executive breadwinner mom?
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>>2008223
The idea of domestic Homu is too good, but sadly Homura is the Junko to Madoka's Tomohisa.
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>>2008227
"If the Dark orb was made from my strands of fate and Homura's soul gem, that means..."
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>>2008226
>>2008227
>>2008228
was this scanned?
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>>2008328
Yeah, it's from an old Maitake compilation from 2014. It has Madokano and Debikano along with a bunch of previously unseen shorts.
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>>2008347
Name or links? Google sends me to some chinese scans.
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>>2008350
http://dropbooks.tv/detail/tKtpiP2z4z

There ya go.

I also have the latest Maitake that came out in December, but I own it hardcopy. I'll post it if I can find a scanner at some point. I havent seen it posted anywhere else.
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>>2008228
> that means...
They failed to use protection?
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>>2008421
I fucking love you anon
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>>2008228
How are magical babbies made?
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>>2008435
They didn't teach you in school, anon?
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>>2008453
My inner city education never did quite cover anime biology.
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>>2008457
Mine only covered abstinence-based yuri sex ed
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>>2008226
>The idea of domestic Homu is too good, but sadly Homura is the Junko to Madoka's Tomohisa.
I'll be honest that doesn't really feel like what would happen if they ever finally got together.
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>>2008510
It's more or less implied. Junko is an a driven, former deliquent turned mama bear. Junko even states Homura acts and looks like she did when she was her age in the PSP game and one interview stated Madoka wants to marry someone like her mom.

Tomohisa seems like he's just an incredibly nice guy. And beyond preference, there is no way Madoka would wear the pants in that relationship outside of the bedroom.
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>>2008517
Still that's Homura post time traveling isn't it? Not to mention a Madoka pre sacrifice. Madoka turning out more like her mom and Homura reverting a bit back into moemura and being wifey as all fuck appeals to me greatly.
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>>2008518
I personally think that would be the best book end to the series, but even Rebellion is Junko's crappy "do something wrong" advice taken to an extreme level.
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>>2008517
Madoka also clearly considers Junko her role model rather than Tomohisa. She's the one who wants to go out into the world and leave her mark, while all Homura cares about is Madoka. Nothing would make Homura happier than dedicating her life to looking after Madoka and their family together.
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Would a drunk Junko hit on Homura?
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>>2008528
She's be aggressive in trying to set her up with Madoka.
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>>2008525
I think it's clear Homura will be happy when Madoka stops dying and sacrificing herself. But once she learns to accept that it is just who Madoka is and Madoka accepts (if she doesnt already) that Homu just wants to be with her and protect her, I think they'll figure it out.

>>2008528
>Implying the straight characters are even straight

Seriously though, probably. Even a bigot like Hitomi caught gay from Homu.
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