>“At least we can agree, the third one’s always the worst,” says Jean Grey (Sophie Turner) in X-Men: Apocalypse, on an outing with fellow trainee mutants to see Return of the Jedi in 1983.
Yep this is an actual line from the movie.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/05/09/x-men-apocalypse-is-almost-as-bad-as-batman-v-superman---review/
>>69319250
>tfw that line was probably a jab at The Last Stand
>now it ends up biting them in the ass as it applies to their own shitty movie
>>69319640
>There is a scene in the 80’s set X-Men: Apocalypse where a young Jean Grey (Sophie Turner) and Scott Summers (Tye Sheridan) exit a showing of Return of the Jedi and argue the merits of the various Star Wars films. The participants discuss “Empire Strikes Back was better” versus “Star Wars started it all” before coming to a consensus that the third films always stink. It’s intended as a jab at X-Men: The Last Stand, but it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Bryan Singer’s would-be trilogy capper is a shocking miss. It is a lifeless and hollow shell of a picture, lacking exciting action, strong character interplay, or compelling storytelling. It is the nadir of the franchise, determined to make you apologize for every mean thing you’ve ever said about Brett Ratner’s rushed X-Men trilogy capper a decade ago. X-Men: The Last Stand is X2: X-Men United compared to X-Men: Apocalypse.
>this movie would be better if they sold the rights to the XMen back to marvel and let DISNEY take care of it
Seems kind of like a biased review
>>69319250
Apparently here are the negatives
>Apocalypse is underwhelming
>JLaw is the center of attention
>Ending/final battle was bad
>The X-Men are secondary characters
>Psylocke is useless
>Bad dialogue
>Movie is underwhelming
>Not enough action
>Wolverine is in the movie for no reason
There's more but this is all I gathered
>>69319761
I don't doubt that this movie sucks, but I'm getting pretty annoyed at critics going "LOL JUST GIVE IT TO DISNEY" as they're actively trying to force it to happen by shitting on any non-disney marvel movie. Most MCU movies are underwhelming as fuck and X-Men should never share universe with other superheroes. The mutants work better in their own universe
>>69319250
Jewjew Abrams is shitting on the original trilogy lmao
>>69319250
>"Remember the way referencing pop culture and memes was criticised so much in Xmen3? LETS DO THAT AGAIN!!!"
>>69319250
>>69319640
>>69319746
It's like poetry; it rhymes.
>>69320000
So do those numbers.
>>69319761
Didn't see it in there. Am I missing it?
>>69319250
People read The Telegraph?
And listen to its opinions?
>>69319889
Yeah, but out of 6 movies, only two were bad. I'd that's the case, I say Fox should keep it
>I hope DISNEY™ gets back the rights to fox's failed XMEN© series now that its a confirmed flop. Fox has no idea how to do MARVEL® based films, they should just let DISNEY™ take care of it. After seeing the excellent, ground breaking, Heart Breaking Film CAPTAIN AMERICA™: Civil War© I now know that only DSINEY™ can truly do these films justice. Also Batman vs superman was bad.
wow some review
>>69320157
Fraiser as Beast was cool. Part 3 wasn't as bad as everyone says (its bad...just not that bad)
....Wolverine Origins is actually that bad though
>>69319746
>them agreeing Jedi stinks
I hope Apocalypse kills them all
>>69320284
Funny thing is that Disney hasn't made anything that's close to being as good as X2 or DoFP.
>>69320284
That cant be real
>>69319862
>The X-Men are secondary characters
Who's the main characters?
>FOX SONY WARNER BROS REEEEEEEEEEE!!!! DISNEY ONLY 4EVA
man this review seems really biased
>>69320502
Jennifer Lawrence
>>69320328
Part 3 is pretty shit for x-men fans, its ehhh.... for movie fans.
I wish fox planned for a 4th and held off from using Cyclops and Phoenix. Part 3 could have been cure storyline only, as an action cash grab sequel. They could have used rogue in place of phoenix, absorbing like 6 different mutant powers, going crazy. Revealed Emma was controlling her, leading into x-men 4.
I mean, idk...... Im still sour about x-men 3.
>>69319862
also of note, Magneto is criminally underused, and he and Xavier barely have a scene together
>>69320502
Mystique is the main character. It's like she's Katniss and the X-Men are everyone else in the Hunger Games
>>69320564
Jesus. So Fox, after seeing how the Hunger Games ended up having diminishing returns over the series, after public perception of her started turning, and after she flat out went
>I don't want to do these fucking movies anymore
still went
>here, have the lead in our franchise you want nothing to do with anymore
>>69320650
There's no reason to even see the movie to know this, the trailers were pretty specific on who the story would focus on. JLaw basically walked into the Fox office, went, "I'm Katniss and I need more money," then they coughed up this shit. Munn was also a mistake, albeit more forgivable than Katniss.
I've seen all XMen movies but for some reason, I never had an inkling of desire to see this one. Looks like I'm going to follow my gut and not see it.
>>69319862
>JLaw is the center of attention
God damn it.
>>69320811
Days of Future Past made it look like J-Law and Wolverine were the main characters but the movie was all about Charles.
I was hoping it would be the case as well with this one.
>>69319746
>have a scene where characters watch a movie
>just to shit on another movie
Well, it's a comic book movie, and meant for quips, but even then, this is kinda trashy
>>69319746
didn't they do that same shit in Scream 2?
>>69319889
>The mutants work better in their own universe
Yeah, I've always found the concept of wolverine next to the Avengers odd. If society is constantly fighting against the rights of mutants why do they love Spiderman, Iron Man, Captain America, etc.?
>>69320000
check'd
>>69320444
DoFP is pretty bad, tho
>>69320855
Same man. I didn't watch the Wolverine movie because Origins was so shit, but I watched all the others. And I honestly have no interest in seeing Apocalypse. Apocalypse seems underwhelming as fuck, Sophie is a bland actress who doesn't interest me, and I really can't stand more of Jennifer Lawrence's trash acting.
>>69319250
>Hating on Return of the Jedi
>>69320564
>>69320650
So, they based a movie around a mediocre actress who is too big of a diva to even wear the necessary makeup to play the character?
>>69321125
It's like they felt hiring a balding jean grey from GoT wasn't enough so they wanted us to hate her more
>>69320855
I've always felt very underwhelmed by the trailers.
>>69320328
What was bad about Wolverine Origins besides, "muh deadpool"? I thought it was pretty good.
>>69320566
That's probably true
I never liked X-Men comics.
Doom Patrol was better
![Deadpool_poster[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/54ilNKL.jpg "Deadpool_poster[1].jpg")
>Highest grossing X-Men film is Deadpool
>>69321055
It's meant to be a race analogue. It doesn't make sense for more than a second if you think about it, but that's what they intended it to be
is that ivan ooze?
>>69321125
>>69319746
This conversation is REALLY anachronistic. At the time everyone would have loved it. It's the kind of conversation nerdy screen-writers have had, so they wanted to insert it into the film.
>>69319250
>totally unnecessary and wrong BvS cheap shot
>>69321215
I haven't seen it since it came out. I just remember it being bad and having a bunch of crappy characters and odd pacing and the fight at the end was stupid (wolverine gets shot in the head?)
Could care less about Deadpool anyway
Ambush Bug is better
>>69321144
That really mashed my nuts as well, her not wearing makeup as often as Mystique should. Mystique is a mutant that's militant about showing her mutated form to inspire fear in mutantphobes and show her pride to everyone else. Being out of that form for so long is character breaking at best.
>>69321307
Did the reviewer hurt your feelings, anon?
>>69319250
WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THIS STAR WARS SHIT?! EVEN SPIDERMAN HAD TO ADD IN HIS CRINGEY DIALOGUE! WTF FUCK STAR WARS! LET THIS FUCKING SERIES R.I.P. ITS NOT EVEN THAT GREAT OF A MOVIE! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>69321339
I'm crying in my beer
>>69319862
Also the bad cgi
Pic related
>>69319862
>Jlaw center of attention
aaand i'm not buying a ticket.
>>69321317
>Ambush Bug is better
I love you.
>>69321368
Hey anon do you remember that old movie Empire Strikes Back?
>>69321286
How many big film trilogies were even out by 1983? I'd say it was the Godfather that really got people saying the third part is always bad.
>>69321599
I get why it was in this movie (gotta get that Disney synergy going)
But you'd think of anyone Fox would be the ones least likely to reference Star Wars.
>>69321495
Trailer CGI is always bad.
>>69321613
This. That conversation makes no sense as during the 80s there qas hardly many trilogy blockbusters.
>trilogy introducing pretty much all the characters except for mystique in the third film
forwhatpurpose.jpg
>>69321613
Yeah. The concept of trilogies was new. So hating on a trilogy is an alien concept in 83. And at the time, EVERYONE was riding high on the Star Wars vibe. Everyone loved that shit. It's only years later that people started hating on it.
It's a modern nerd conversation that the writers probably had that they put in.
>>69321613
the dollars trilogy?
>>69321715
The third movie is usually regarded as the best so it acts as an opposite example.
>>69321646
This was the final trailer tho.. final trailers should show an improvement.
This looks like a scene from 300
>>69321582
Ambush Bug is the true comic book fan's choice for anarchist 4th wall breaking Superhero satire character
>>69321711
You've got a way too high opinion of Hollywood screenwriters if you think they're capable of making say teenage characters not sound like a 35 year old screenwriter. Adding a time differential is far beyond anything they could do.
>>69321917
Are you mentally deficient?
>>69321973
Are you mentally deficient?
>>69321751
right, I just couldn't come close to a counter example
some series ended in the 80's(SW, Indian Jones, Mad Max) but they all would've been after 83
>RoTJ
>Bad
I will cut a bitch.
>>69321994
I don't care about your "jokes on you I was just pretending" shitposting.
ROTJ is hated because of its blatant message of Christian redemption.
>>69321613
When did jaws 3 come out?
>>69322038
It was the most mediocore of the OT desu
In fact /tv/ has been stating this for ages
>once again /tv/ is right
>>69322057
You suck balls
What are you talking about retarded?
>>69322156
1983 kek
>>69321997
Indy 3 didnt come out til 1989 and I am pretty sure that was praised
>>69322152
So only fedoras hate it?
>>69322152
Wrong. It is hated due to the ewoks.
First act and 3rd act are all 10/10
>>69322152
So that explains why Snyder's movies are always hated by critics?
>>69322152
I thought it was because of the army of teddy bears with sticks and stones beating Empire soldiers, Han and Leia doing nothing at all except opening a door and Death Star 2: Electric Boogaloo
>>69321613
Was Last Crusade out by then?
Or any of the Indiana Jones?
>>69322486
This is why Han was meant to die due to him having no character plot at all.
But Lucas was like
>Muh toy sales
I'm only here for McAvoy and Fassbender. X-Men as a comic book, along with most if not all, is garbage.
Shame about the size of the cast, but I'm surprised it's getting worse reviews than Age of Ultron. That piece of shit was somehow worse than Thor Episode II: The Clone Wars.
Just give me a fucking movie with Xavier and Magneto playing chess while talking about shit a la Princess Bride.
>>69322172
>trusting /t Problem Child v/
>>69322522
Crusade was released in 1989
Hence this 3 movie being bad x men apocalypse talk makes no sense.
Crusades wasnt even bad anyway. It was great fun
>>69322541
i think that is what they're saying
far and away the best two actors (excluding oscar isaac) and characters are criminally underused
>>69322152
>America hating christfags storyline
>>69322364
Correct >>69322172
>>69322522
Temple of Doom wasn't even out till 84.
>>69322639
Lol wow so late.
I wud hav thought 1981
>>69319250
>almost
Jesus how low can BvS go?
Don't tell me BvS is now the standard for blockbuster capeshit flops
>>69320000
no, you are poetry
>>69319250
Damn, this is going to cost them at least 200 million in revenue, brace yourselves for deadpool in the x-men
>>69322664
It only flopped because WB went balls deep while investing on advertising and merchandising, if the greedy fucks just focused on the film alone it would be a massive success
>>69322694
how much creative control do you figure Reynolds now has given 90% of Deadpool's success was on account of him devoting 10 years to making it happen?
>>69321009
Was thinking this. They made her the main focus but in a way which allowed other characters to shine.
If she's the main character of this they deserve to bomb
TNG Reboot when?
Got Picard and Data already. Hell, just bring LeVar back, he looks basically the same. Same with Dorn.
Every other character can fuck off anyway.
>>69321643
actually, now that you mention it, this makes perfect sense now.
Of the original trilogy, while they were all good, the general consensus is that the fight for best is between empire and jedi.
Guess who owns the rights to A New Hope.
That's right.
Fox.
>>69322528
>han meant to die
Lucas was right to shoot down that idea along with Luke becoming the emperor
though Luke leaving the party like John Wayne in Searchers would have been cool
>>69322909
We need a Riker for cowboy diplomacy....shit Hugh would be perfect for it
I can't wait for capeshit to die.
>>69321613
Godfather 3 wasn't even out at that point either
>>69322597
FUCK
I swear to god if Olivia Munn has more screentime than Hank, let alone McAvoy/Fassbender, then I'm done.
Fucking Singer.
>>69322909
>Every other character can fuck off anyway.
>Broccoly canfuck off
"no"
>>69319889
>>69319761
You don't want one corporation to own 100% of popular culture? What's wrong with you weirdos?
>>69322968
X-men will put it on it's deathbed, but Strange is gonna give it new life, watch
>>69322909
Burton would be in his sixties.
he aged well, but not THAT well.
>>69319761
yep, won't make up my mind yet
critics have proven to be extremely unreliable when it comes to cape
>>69323006
Let Disney have the capeshit, they clearly know how to dominate monopolies (animation)
Paramount will churn out new epic series every decade or so, Dark Tower is due to start next years
>>69322619
most Americans are meme christians who are more content to hold on to their strange puritan traditions than to embrace proper christology
>>69323011
What's so great about Dr. Strange?
>>69322785
They're probably going to follow in WB's footsteps and let reynolds oversee everything, as a marketing gimmick of course, WB is doing the exact same thing with the standalone batman film
>>69321317
>>69321582
>>69321805
Anyone else's jaw drop when Ambush Bug showed up in the final episode of Batman : Brave and the Bold?
Said it before: WB should produce a mid-budget "Lobo & Ambush Bug" flick that basically rips off Cable & Deadpool.
>>69323069
.___.
>>69323069
Magic and CGI up the ass aka everything Americans and Chinamen eat up
>>69323069
It's made by Disney and Marvel
>>69323069
Capeshit + Harry Potter
>>69322968
And get replaced with what? The quality of blockbusters have actually gone up with the popularity of capeshit. Before capeshit it was disaster porn and Michael Bay shitfests.
>>69323069
MY DORMMMAMU DAWG
>>69323274
Anime adaptations. I look forward to my Fate/Zero movie.
>>69319250
I'm pretty hype for capeshit to die.
>>69323303
>Fate/Zero directed by Zack Snyder
It will be pure kino
>>69322580
I liked Crusade over Ark, but I never could justify it. I think it's just because there is a small part of the Ark that was boring, otherwise both are great.
>>69322541
>X-men is pretty much Civil Rights Movement debate, with Mutant-Martin Luther King vs the Mutant-Malcolm X
>Singer: Let's focus on Rosa Parks
Fuck this movie. How could Singer drop the ball this hard?
Fuck let this be the start of the end of lawrence.
>>69323069
Mads Mikkelsen
>Everybody hates Lawrence now
I'm not really into celebnews, but happened that made the public turn against Hunger Girl?
>>69323802
Nudes
>>69323802
Nobody ever liked her as Mystique. I personally never liked her ever. She's just not a good actor.
I can't think of a single movie with her where I was like "Nobody else could've played that role".
>>69323069
Disney pumping it with great actors
we are promised neat special effects
Harry Potter magic drawing in people
>>69323633
Not that Jlaw or Mystique should be the focus of the movie, but Mystique in the comics is way more Leila Khaled than Rosa Parks.
As much as I enjoy some of the Disney films, I'm beginning to resent the way they've conditioned the audience to accept nothing BUT their formula. I mean, have we lost the ability to judge a film by the laws of its own universe rather than constantly trying to force it conform to the (more popular) Disney mold? Not to mention the X-Men films came first and arguably invented the modern capeshit genre as we know it so it deserves some respect.
>>69319746
lol
>>69323802
Made fun of some foreign reporter at a Award show or something, people find out she's a spoiled child who is trying to convince people that her multi-million dollar salary is a tragedy and isn't reflective of her status as an actor. And, finally, folks are only now realizing she really isn't much of an actor.
>>69319250
>X-Men:Apocalypse is almost as bad as Batman v Superman
so its kino? cuz the trailers make it look like shit but then again i didn't like the BvS trailers either.
>>69324172
>have we lost the ability to judge a film by the laws of its own universe rather than constantly trying to force it conform to the (more popular) Disney mold?
Yes.
Welcome to modern "cinema" and film "criticism"...
>>69324767
So by your logic, anything that is rated bad by critics is kino?
No doubt BvS IS kino but it has nothing to do with it getting bad reviews.
>>69324247
>actor
>actor
Actress. You mean actress. This is /tv/, you have to get our terminology correct if you want to be taken seriously here.
>>69324767
Sounds like Christopher Nolan based the plane scene off this book
>>69321286
dude, if you WATCHED THE PREVIOUS MOVIE you'd know that along with sending wolverine's essence/soul/etc back to his past body kitty pryde ALSO sent back a few jokes/quips to the other x-men so they could make futuristic jokes. duh.
i swear to god /tv/ doesnt even watch the movies they carry on like they know SO MUCH ABOUT
>>69321286
Yup.
Up until the 90s ROTJ was the favorite for most people.
>>69323069
Fiege's pet project.
>>69321286
It's bizarro alternate history. And also a joke.
>it's Mystique:The Movie all over again
jesus christ
I'm sure it'll be fine.
>>69319250
Disney shills don't ever hide anymore
>>69327196
I can't believe they did this again. Is it not blatantly obvious that people liked FC and DoFP in spite of JLaw and not because of her?
>>69320000
>Quads
Checked
>>69323069
its different and has the marvel logo at the start
>>69319746
lmao
>>69327684
Marvel AND Disney.
Need both to be critic-proof.
>>69327449
>It is plainly obvious that what I think, is what EVERYONE thinks!
>>69321055
>If society is constantly fighting against the rights of mutants why do they love Spiderman, Iron Man, Captain America, etc.?
They don't; they hate the Avengers 50% of the time and Spider-Man 90% of the time. But I guess it's still inconsistent with the rabid mutant hatred 100% of the time.
>>69327449
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhh you're not being sexist now are you????????????
>>69319250
But that's true. Return sucked lmao
>>69320985
Hopefully her career is in its death throes
>NOT ENOUGH QUIPS
>NOT FUN ENOUGH
>IT DIDN'T LOOK ENOUGH LIKE A TV SHOW, LIKE MCU!
When did we become so infantile of a nation?
>>69321250
Not necessarily. It changes with the times. Reverend Stryker used to be one of their biggest villains for instance.
>>69325223
but what is the book based on?
>>69319250
Guys, what if it is media conspiracy of marvel fanboys, to bankrupt fox and return x-men right to marvel?
JLaw main character and Munn being cast as Psylocke. Thanks Singer I'll keep my cash this time.
>>69319250
>Return of the Jedi in 1983
meant to be "Return of the Jedi (1983)."
do they even proofread what they publish any more?
>>69319761
X-men should stay with Fox, they seldom make great movies with x-men and monopoly is never good.
However F4 might as well go back to marvel because Fox has fucked it up 3 times already, and I think the franchise is doomed without Marvel.
>>69319746
So instead of Singer finishing his x men trilogy he decided to go and make the most boring Superman movie ever
The Last Stand was like Citizen Kane compare to Superman Returns
>>69330320
A lot of it came down to FOX pushing really hard on the production time. Singer wanted to do both it and Superman, and since FOX wouldn't budge on schedule he walked because he was further along with his Superman idea.
Vaughn was it's next director and he left because of them not giving him enough time to make it too.
Also Singer wanted his X3 to be a Jean vs Emma movie with Emma played by Sigourney Weaver. That's kind of awful casting that I'm glad never happened.
>>69330583
So what you're saying is Singer is literally a hack
I'm glad the pedo got caught
>>69321055
Because Marvel comics has established a pretty vague rule between mutates and mutants. Mutants are discriminated against.
>>69320000
Very impressive.
>>69319250
Singer doesn't know shit. All his xmen movies are fucking turd. Only X2 is party decent. Only xmen movie that wasnt absolute aids was First class.
Does he even understand or like xmen?
HOW DO YOU FUCK A CHARACTER LIKE APOCALYPSE UP THAT MUCH?
If he had just a fraction of his appearance and personality he'd work. Instead he turns him purple and we get Ivan Ooze.
Singer should stick to child molestation.
>>69323802
>multiple public blunders revealing what a spoiled, ignorant, self-righteous cunt she is
>can't act
>public fatigue with her "lol I'm so piggy and flawed like you, consumer" gimmick, especially when her real personality became established and it was polar opposite
>hours spent becoming intimately familiar with just how fucked up her face is
jlaw's nosediving into irrelevance, anon, and this starring flop will be a nice extra shove down the pit
>>69330902
Why didnt Apocalyse look like your pic related?
That would have been so badass.
Also I cannot stand Apocalypse's voice in the trailers. I doubt it is improved in the movie
>>69330320
Superman Returns was awesome dude
