>Watchmen is released in 2009
>panned
>7 years later finally universally recognized as a masterpiece
>Sucker Punch is released in 2011
>panned
>5 years later finally universally recognized as a masterpiece
>Man of Steel is released in 2013
>panned
>3 years later finally universally recognized as a masterpiece
>Batman v Superman is released in 2016
>panned
Mark my words, BvS will be universally praised as kino sometime between 2017-2019. Thankfully it has been taking less and less time for people to see Snyder's genius.
Except nothing of that happened.
Watchmen is the best by far and bvs was just good, the other 2 are pretty terrible and not kino.
Watchmen wasn't panned. It's fresh on RT. The Director's Cut was univerally agreed to be much better though and its pretty much a cult classic now.
Man of Steel wasn't panned either. It was divisive with strong opinions on both sides.
>>72114127
None of those are masterpieces though. Especially Sucker Punch. I still can't believe the creator of that mess was hired for Man of Steel.
usually a director is either/or, but based snyder is the true artiste who brings both substance and style to all his films. can't wait for what he's gonna gift us next.
>>72114127
Truly the Kubrick of our times.
>>72114205
lol i hope you're kidding.
>>72114127
What a coincidence that literally every other Snyder film was acknowledged as a masterpiece in the year 2016 and that is a thing that definitely happened outside your head.
>>72114224
Nah that's Nolan. Snyder is more like...um...nevermind.
>suckerpunch
>masterpiece
>any year
>>72114275
I know these are just trolls to get (You)'s telling you to go back to plebbit but Darren Aronofsky is the Kubrick of our time not capeshit directors.
>>72114127
by your math all of those movies were declared masterpieces in 2016...
>>72114127
>Sucker Punch
>5 years later finally universally recognized as a masterpiece
>>72114315
It definitely is somewhat interesting in a way that's hard to articulate. I would even go so far as to say it was 'post-ironic' in the way people used to use that phrase a couple years ago.
I would say go drop a tab and its worth a watch.
>>72114237
i feel sorry for you and your pleb taste. go back to your st:tng-tier marvel movies.
>>72114127
I know you're a troll, but feel free to fucking kill yourself at any time, regardless.
I actually liked sucker punch. why does it get so much hate?
>>72114127
>>Sucker Punch is released in 2011
>>panned
>>5 years later finally universally recognized as a masterpiece
>>Man of Steel is released in 2013
>>panned
>>3 years later finally universally recognized as a masterpiece
when the fuck did that happen
>>72114510
people legit have a hard time grasping what its about
>>72114127
>Sucker Punch
>Masterpiece
Everything else is fact.
This Snyder is a good filmmaker meme needs to die
Watchmen is fucking awful and completely misses the point of the comic book. It's a C+, at best, adaptation of the greatest comic ever written.
>>72114127
Watchmen was good
Sucker Punch was and is still disappointing garbage. It should have been an arthouse film, nothing but the action scenes from the deceptive trailers. No attempt to be anythinf other than nonsensical gunporn dipped in nerd fantasy set in it's own little world.
Man of Steel was not "amazing" but certainly did not deserve it's hate. The film was amazing, especially those fucking costume designs. The costumes were so fucking good in that movie.
BvS is shit and I don't care how opinioms change, it will always be shit. Independence Day: Resergence was a far better film. Frozen was a far better film. The Room was (not better but) a far more enjoyable film.
BvS was straight up bad at being a movie, whole aspects of the plot went completely unexplained. How the fuck did Lex figure out their identies? Why did he even want them to fight? How did Lex bribe a fuckong congressman with a god damned jolly rancher that wasn't even his? Many character motivations were either not explained or just completely ignored. Lois just fucked shit up the whole movie. Why the fuck did Superman even need to be the one who used the spear? And why the fuck did they immediately kill Superman TWO FUCKING MOVIES IN? They should have saved that for later down the road. Now they can't ever undo it. For the remainer of the DCCU Superman will no longer trigger dramatic tension. Those who know the comic books could have been wondering everytime Sups went into battle if this might be the moment they kill him with the normies who don't eventually being surprised when they finally did. They fucked that. Now everyone knows Superman dies and they wasted it in a shitty ass movie that no one except a small segment of DCucks pretends to care about. I say small segment because as a contrarian I had to jump from Marvel to DC when Marvel got to popular. I like the DC universe better. But know what? BvS was a shitty movie. Not just bad, but literally bad at being a cohesive narrative.
>>72114127
The release of BvS: Ultimate Edition already gave the impression that the film is actually a kino.
In 2017 BvS will be seen as a masterpiece.
>>72114127
Sucker Punch a masterpiece?
Holy fucking shit, I haven't laughed this hard all week.
Name any good movie with Jena Malone in it.
Protip: You can't.
I'll give BvS a pass since I only remembering seeing her in the Ultimate Edition.
>>72114976
>Name any good movie with Jena Malone in it.
into the wild
The only people who see any of those as masterpieces are fat virgins on this board.
>>72114663
Cont.
Know what? I'm not even finished.
Fucking Snyder doesn't just run movies, he ruines whole entire types of movies. Sucker Punch was written to be a decontruction, to make us feel bad about the highly violent sexualized badass girl crazy going around at the time but that fucking crazy was already going out the window with garbage like Ultraviolet, Aeon Flux, and the constant Resident Evil films being increasingly panned. When the first trailers came out for Sucker Punch it looked amazing. There had never been a film like that before, a mostly storyless gun and sword fantasy film composed of hyperviolent set pieces. Everyone expected the story to be an excuse plot, with it looking more like a pseudo-arthouse film with lots of nonsensical shit purely for the sake of great imagery, something that even I will admit Snyder excels at. BUT WHAT HAPPENED INSTEAD? The film was entirely about the story, a weird poorly explained one I'll add with a stupid fakeout ending and the action setpieces were literally relegated to their own parts of the movie, not to interfere with the rest. Snyder wanted us to feel guilty for watching movies like that but unfortunately for Snyder NO ONE HAD EVER MADE A MOVIE LIKE THAT BEFORE.Who the fuck was he trying to shame? Now there never will be because to this day many people still consider Sucker Punch to be mindless violence even though it's the fact that it isn't mindless that makes it so shitty. He tried to direct Perfect Blue while marketing it as Kill La Kill, no shit people hated it.
>>72115056
he's my girlfriend's favorite director.
reminder that only feminists, nu-males and SJW's hate snyder.
>>72114976
>Name any good movie with Jena Malone in it
Donnie fucking Darko
Not even kidding
>>72115137
Your girlfriends probably a fat bitch
>>72114127
>sucker punch
>recognized as masterpiece
>watchmen
>panned
Kek
>>72115191
Nope.
>>72114127
Suckerpunch is still seen as a piece of shit, watchmen I don't know about nor have I seen it. You're right about MoS & BvS, but there have always been people who recognized how good they were right from the start
>>72114663
>>72115113
Show me on the doll where Snyder touched you lol
>>72115174
>hurr muh feminisnts and nu-males hate Snyder
Did you fucking watch Sucker Punch? It's was literally written to shame you for having waifus. Even then had it actually been well written I would have respected it but it fucking wasn't.
Can you say the same thing about the MCU? the Avengers sucked, Iron Man sucked, Thor sucked, Hulk sucked, I could go on.
In 50 years time the DCEU is going to be looked upon fondly as the golden age of superhero movies, while nobody will remember the MCU.
Feels Goodman.
>>72115113
>anime
>>72115341
Literally only /tv/ likes BvS and hates MCU. /tv/ has such shit opinions on film it's laughable. This is why /tv/ is the most hated part of 4chan. It's literally just man children and neckbeards.
How could anyone manage to fuck this film up? How could anyone fuck up "Lol Choose Your Waifu: The Movie" Especially Snyder with his talent for compelling imagery. All he needed was imagery and people would have been happy. It's a movie about making shit look cool by a director whose only real talent it making shit look cool. This film should have been impossible to screw up, and yet Snyder managed to do it by trying to pretend he was Christopher Nolan.
>>72115341
The point is, DC movies have dialogues and catchphrases people will remember, whilst all the Marvelstuff got like.. Nothing? Except that Hulkquote from Tony when facing Loki
>>72115513
Sorry the movie was too big for your little mind anon
Do I watch the extended cut, directors cut, or ultimate cut for the best viewing experience?
>>72114411
tripple doubles
checked
>>72115513
>TWO flashlights on her gun
now that is tacticool
>>72115953
directors cut is best for watchmen.
BvS extended was awesome, albeit a tad long
Watchmen was ok. Tad slow here and there but i cant really argue
What was his fucking problem?
>Sucker Punch
>Cult favourite
>"Masterpiece"
The other 2 no one cares about.
>>72116065
Meh, I'd give it a 7/10, but I hear the ultimate cut is better.
The thing that pissed me off a bit was Jessie as Lex.
>>72116072
hes trying to handle having all that power
>>72115113
>Sucker Punch was written to be a decontruction
THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT WORD MEAN YOU STUPID FUCKING /a/ by TVTroper!!!!
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT, YOU IDIOTS MAKE ME SO IRATE.
The word you'd like to use is iconoclastic. The movie is trying to be iconoclastic, not be any sort of "deconstruction". Holy fuck.
>>72116136
only downside was Lex, too much of him and too REDDIT QUIRKY. Ultimate is awesome besides that
>>72114127
i'll give you watchmen but literally nobody has reconsidered sucker porn, man of shit or batman versus sequel baiting
>Right away we are told that this is not just the Wayne’s story. This is America’s story. A story where the idyllic is an act of imagination and never a perpetual state. Affleck’s ruminations on falling accompany the vision of a young, traumatized Bruce Wayne running aimlessly from his parent’s funeral through the fields until he falls headlong into an underground cave. Batman fans know that this is the bat cave and that the winged creatures young Bruce will inevitably encounter mark the beginning of his transformation into the Dark Knight. It’s a fall that is a new beginning, a story of origins. Like the biblical character of Jacob and his nighttime struggle with an anonymous stranger, young Bruce emerges from these events both wounded and with a new identity.
>Instead, Snyder’s Batman v Superman is comics as modern mythology in that entertainment seems secondary to crafting a story that engages questions of the human condition, good and evil, and the exercise of power within the clash of heroes with superhuman abilities. From the very opening the particularity of this story is framed in a story of origins, not the origins of the particular characters but of the loss of “diamond absolutes”, a fall, and the longing for return that marks a tragic vision of human reality. Superman and Batman within Snyder’s story are ciphers through which we are invited to wrestle with ourselves, our desires, our gods and idols in order to discern a path forward in our world.
>>72114127
I know, I will say something on this new thing kids like, the internet, and everyone will think it is true.
>>72116252
>In America this power is seen as an unqualified good only within the caveat that it is wielded by and on behalf of America. This myth is maintained by ignorance of any after effects of such exercise. In their song “Waiting for a Superman”, the Flaming Lips ask with intentional irony, “Is it overwhelming to use a crane to crush a fly?” Such questions are suppressed as the exercise of raw power needs ignorance for its continued practice. However, as the warlord (or, as he might self-identify outside Western hegemony, freedom fighter) tells Lois Lane, “Ignorance is not the same thing as innocence.” In this way, Batman v Superman directly confronts the mythology of American exceptionalism and its presumptions of innocence and benevolent power.
>There’s a scene during the semi-climatic battle between the two titans in which Superman, weakened and pummeled by an armor clad Batman and his kryptonite tipped “Excalibur” finds himself laying, cruciform, on a stack of wood. Arms outstretched horizontally, ankles crossed or touching, and his cape regally flowing up from his seemingly lifeless body, emerging from his broad shoulders crowning his head. As the camera pans back, the scene evokes the atmosphere of a Catholic cathedral. Like a religious icon, the man of steel’s body is surrounded by Roman columns and illuminated in bluish light from a massive window that could have been at home at either Grand Central Station or St. Patrick’s. With a cable wrapped around Superman’s ankles, the Dark Knight yanks him from his iconic position and swings him, hammer-like, bludgeoning the quasi-religious artifice that had just a moment ago framed the red and blue clad warrior in worshipful repose.
>The scene is not a random outlier in an otherwise straight up comic book story. It’s a metaphor for the death of a certain form of hero worship.
Has anyone here who read the watchmen comic seen the ultimate cut? Was it any good?
>>72116284
>The movie closes with concurrent funerals, one for Clark Kent and one for Superman. In the background of Kent’s casket being laid to rest, Bruce Wayne muses on what must die. Raw power is being mourned in a “circus” in DC over an “empty box”. His Amazon compatriot replies that we (America) don’t know any other way to honor him but as a soldier, deified a hero solely by virtue of symbolic proximity to raw force. Soldier and hero are collapsed together in public consciousness. Ironically, this honor comes at the cost of considering him human, potentially courageous or callous.
>Back in Smallville, the handful of dirt scattered on the pine coffin holding the fallen begins to levitate. We know there will be a return, a resurrection of sorts. But the conversation Snyder invokes revolves around the questions of what precisely has died and what will re-emerge to live. Perhaps it is past time for America to grieve the death wrought by the messianic belief in unchecked power. Perhaps then America’s dominant religion can let go of its need to transform its founder into a superhero.
BvS is legit the most meaningful capefilm ever.
>>72114127
>sucker punch
That's where I realized you were trolling
The movie introduced people to Comedian which is good enough.
>>72114510
>why does a horrible fucking movie get so much hate?
>>72114559
Because it was full of CGI that gave the impression the female actors couldn't handle simple stunt work, along with the "it was all a dream" ending
>>72114559
Nobody has a hard time "grasping" Sucker Punch, you fucking moron.
The only people who like the movie are 13-year-old boys, who overlook everything else about it.
>>72116430
Meant for >>72114510
>>72115327
>Waifufag
>>72114127
>Watchmen is released in 2009
>panned
Your written communication skills are extremely proficient for a fourth grader.
>>72115226
People only see things in black and white. Which is ironic when talking about the watchmen. It got mixed reviews, but generally leaned more towards favorable. I remember ebert really liked talking about it.
Who would win in a fight between Dr.Manhattan and Winston Niles Rumfoord?
>>72115890
>muh depth
>didn't understand
>simple minded
Wedding cakes have layers, doesn't make them better cakes.
>>72114663
>BvS was straight up bad at being a movie, whole aspects of the plot went completely unexplained.
Just goes to show that people who didn't like BvS are literally autistic.
Not saying there wasn't some unexplained stuff in the movie, but come on.
>>72118255
>Dr.Manhattan teleports to Mars to be alone.
>Gets recruited into the Martian army.
Watchmen has flaws, but overall it works.
>>72114510
Back when it came out I described Sucker Punch as thus
>a movie about what 40 year old American men think anime is like
Rewatching it recently I was more on the money than I thought.
>>72118180
?
Watchmen is a singular film, you wouldn't say "the movie watchmen are released in 2009"
>>72118315
>backpedaling the post
Yea man, people who dislike something for valid reasons sure are dumbasses.
>>72118403
Thanks for demonstrating that for every prodigal ten year old there's an illiterate adult.
>>72114127
You're dead wrong
Watchmen wasn't panned, It was polarising with some negative criticism regarding It's length but overall It was still positive with those that liked It saying It was amazing
Sucker Punch is legitimately a 2/10 movie and age hasn't done it any favours. It was dogshit then and It's still dogshit now. Same goes for Man Of Steel except MoS wasn't a 2/10, more like a 5/10.
>>72118461
prodigious*
FUCK!
>>72118461
I can't tell if you're genuinely confused, a nitpicking autist, or some unfortunate combination of both.
>>72118543
Ironic.
sucker punch > watchmen > man of steel > 300 > dawn of the dead > owls > bvs
not even shitposting. sucker punch is a postmodern near-masterpiece that transcends feminism and the only one of snyders movies where the symbolism, style, and narrative structure are both worthy of credit and thematically appropriate. he's a fucking hack and the movie is still fundamentally flawed for sure, but i think the reaction to it is what broke him into going full retard.
if sucker punch were made by lynch or kubrick it would be critically acclaimed. you all know it, too.
>>72118543
I don't know who you think you're responding to but your retardation is very entertaining.
>>72118461
Are you really this stupid?
>>72118409
>How the fuck did Lex figure out their identies?
>Why did he even want them to fight?
>How did Lex bribe a fuckong congressman with a god damned jolly rancher that wasn't even his?
>Lois just fucked shit up the whole movie.
>Why the fuck did Superman even need to be the one who used the spear?
>And why the fuck did they immediately kill Superman TWO FUCKING MOVIES IN?
You call those valid reasons?
They sound like they were written by a fucking moron.
>>72118867
>if sucker punch were made by lynch or kubrick it would be critically acclaimed. you all know it, too.
wanna know how i know you're shitposting?
>>72119134
Ignore him
Nerds are autistic children who need an explanation for every single detail of a movie and cant extrapolate anything. They also cant handle a character behaving anything less than autistically logical in any situation
>>Sucker Punch
>>Masterpiece
>>72114976
>Name any good movie with Jena Malone in it.
Sucker Punch
