Explain Buffy to me.
she's a vampire slayer
>>72078793
dumb buffyposter
"Girl who occasionally gets made fun of in school is secretly the chosen one!!!"
Well, if you're a young straight boy, it's probably the perfect show, because you get to watch lesbians and sexy chicks fight monsters. Like X-files, but without the stupid bullshit and more colourful.
Sensitive Josh Whedon made a show with a cute protagonist.
>>72078793
Women enjoy it and you'll get laid if you watch it with them. It's quite good of a show and the women are all hot in it.
Sarah Michelle Gellar looks like old milk though now, but in her prime fuck.
Official character listings
>God-tier
Giles
Angel
Oz
Tara
Clem
>Pretty good-tier
Xander
Spike
Buffy
Willow
Andrew
Druisilla
>Alright-tier
Dawn
Anya
Warren
Glory
Riley
>>72078793
SHE'S JUST A TEENAGE DIRT BAG BABY
>>72079319
Official Season Listing:
3 > 6 > 5 > 4 > 7 > 2 > 1
>>72079376
That's literally how my school math teacher looked like
show that appealed both to nerd girls through self-inserts and eyecandy and to nerd men through le badass hot gurl, with snappy dialogue to boot
>>72079376
>Principal Snyder
What did Whedon mean by that?
>>72079427
He tried to warn us
>>72079396
>Season 2 that low
>>72078793
Beverly Hills 90201 being presented in the horror manner. How is THAT !?
>>72079682
Too much Angel drama bullshit. Forgettable villains.
>>72079319
I don't understand the Glory hate. Her plot and story was based as fuck. It was the dude nurse that made it shit only.
>>72079809
>forgettable villains
Consider suicide for having such a shitty opinion please
>>72079825
I loved glory, she was an actual threatening villain
a lot of jews and a ugly blonde who cant act.
>>72079319
Glory was based you pleb motherfucker. Literally tied for best villain of the series.
>>72079319
m8 wesley. Though the good parts of him are on angel. He's just a bitch in buffy.
>>72079927
SMG is Jewish too anon...
>>72079396
Should be more like this:
5 > 6 > 2 > 3 > 1 > 7 > 4
>>72079850
Name the villains.
>>72078793
bad nosejob
>>72079985
your order is ok, but 1 is definitely the worst season
>>72080009
angelus, spike and drusilla?
>>72080046
~You forgot the villains~
>>72080020
>1 is definitely the worst season
>>72078793
A show about deconstructing high school and high school tropes by using "vampires" and "slayers", that after a while turns into a show about a girl that fights vampires.
But what actually makes is good is the interaction between the characters (they all feel very genuine, or at least the OG-cast does), and how self-distant it is. It knows its flaws and expectations, and often makes fun of itself because of them.
I love it and rewatch it every other year.
>>72080062
??????????????????
>>72080088
it is, though
shit is painful to watch after the late seasons
>>72079319
Bitch. Angel only gets good after he gets his own show.
When he's still on Buffy he is straight up shit-tier (Angelus doesn't count, and if he does you can move him to okay-tier).
>>72079319
Holy fucking dickbutts faggot that's all over the place.
Tara was a shit, as was Drusilla. Glory was fit and funny and Anya a cutie. Angel was mid tier at best in buffy too nigga.
>>72079927
Which ones are jewish?
>>72079319
>cordy
>faith
>>72080186
Buffy, Willow, Doyle and Oz.
>>72080130
It isn't though. Yeah, it's 90s-core as fuck, but it's also comfy as shit so you can easily overlook Whedon's wanking.
The later seasons didn't have the cozy, innocent atmosphere to save them. The whole First arc suffers from it a lot. It's trying to be deep and grimdark but can't pull it off at all (Xander/Anya being the sole exception.)
Season 1 of Buffy is like the earlier seasons of the X Files in a teen format, and it works really well for what it does, the later seasons tried to transition to proto-Angel and mature, but failed at both, to the point where I have never been able to bring myself to watch them again.
>>72078793
whedon's best show (along with Angel). Never understood why there's so many firefly plebs on the internet
>>72080314
>Doyle
Didn't know that. The hilariously out of place and autistic plot of his finale episode now makes complete sense kek
>>72080321
I'd say that for season 1, Firefly is infinitely more tight than both Angel and Buffy. And it could easily have become his best show if it had been kept on air.
>>72080320
This. The bronze and buffy's house were really comfy. Library was kind of dull. Magic shop was kind of forgettable. I think once they went to college in season 4 it stopped being comfy
>>72080354
The dude was a heroin junkie (I think) and died of an overdose a couple of years after he quit the show (I think).
So it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to imagine some kind of junkie-related incident forced them to kill him off earlier than planed. Resulting in that kind of strange episode.
Ah fuck it, let's talk about Xander turning into a Dr. Phil regular. Better than the stupid subjective dickery dockery over this shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH-PAaHnnMg
>>72080020
I found 7 to be a painfully weak and stupid final season, while also finding season 4 to be a general mess. Season 1 had some fun 90's comedy-horror elements to it and wasn't too long.
>>72080550
this. season 1 has some dumb episodes of course (computer demon, hyena demon etc.) but as far as cheesy/campy horror goes it does a good job. Plus season 1 had some of the best dialogue/plot lines between the original 3 (Buffy/Willow/Xander) which is what I thought was the best part of the show anyway. Also the scene where Xander asked out Buffy was fantastic.
>>72080489
>Hollywood actor exhibitionistically indulging in his mental issues
Surprise
>>72080706
>Also the scene where Xander asked out Buffy was fantastic.
Just gonna go home, lie down, and listen to country music. The music of pain.
>>72080489
Tbhfam I can kind of see how he got there.
He was essentially an ascended extra that got typecast as a self-insert for Joss's autism.
He was a based character, but he was written as based from the start, and didn't really have any meaningful growth other than becoming a jaded motherfucker, which is shit because there was fuckhuge amounts of potential there that was only really realized a couple of times.
STRONK
>>72080903
Go to sleep Daisy:^)
>>72079319
Swap Tara and Drusilla and bump up Glory to God tier... ya know.. cause she's not a demon. She's a god.
Then your list is good enough.
That show was tumblr avant-la-lettre. And I don't even mean it in a bad way. It anticipated a lot of the modern ways in which fandom operates. You can say a lot of things about Joss Whedon but he knows how to appeal to young people.
>>72078793
She's not even that buff.
>>72080062
Of the season... not what they turned into later on.
>>72080321
Not to argue but look at Buffy and Angel season 1. Look at Fireflys. Now imagine Firefly got 5 or 7 years. It would have been up there with both of them.
Big Bad listing:
3>2>7>5>6>1>4
>>72080990
Man's the legit proto-neckbeard autist, but he's a straight up genius about certain shit.
I might even argue that when it comes to influence on internet culture, he's tied with 40k/weebs
>>72080414
>Bronze was comfy
>Library was dull
Different strokes I guess.
>>72078793
Ill always love buffy and angel. They're great shows though I'll always fucking hate the Jasmine arc in angel. Pretty sure charisma carpenter lying about her pregnancy brought that unfortunate shit to life.
>>72079881
Agreed. She was also fucking hot. Admit it, you wanted to be one of those gremlin worshippers she had.
>>72080903
with the exception of the series finale I thought Buffy was a good example of having a strong female protagonist without trying to be too self-congratulatory/self-aware about it. she relied heavily on male support (Giles, Angel, Spike etc.) and wasn't perfect by any means. If Buffy had come out today though there'd probably be an ungodly amount of clickbait/buzzfeed spam about it though.
>>72080903
>stronk
>gets "not" raped
>gets slapped by ex and starts crying
>purposely uses new relationships as ammunition against old loves to hurt them/make them jealous
pretty strumf there
>>72078793
she turns a good vampire evil
and an evil vampire good
its not as good as charmed but its watchable
>>72081615
>its not as good as charmed but its watchable
I could barely get through first two seasons of that and had to drop it during third. Buffy, on the other hand, I have seen twice.
>It's a jenny calendar episode
You guys using SimpleRadio, UniversRadio or Aries Radio System?
>>72078824
Except she was literally the most popular girl in her high school before becoming a Slayer.
>>72078793
Best seasons
6 > 5 > 3 > 4 > 2 > 7 > 1
2 is very overrated, it has some of the best moments but it also has a handful of shit tier episodes.
>>72078793
She's so fucking ugly...
>>72078793
It's completely inferior to its spin-off, Angel.
>>72082731
Angel takes so long to actually get going desu.
The first season is complete fuckery until you get to Five by Five and Sanctuary.
>>72082728
i never got the love for her, even in her prime she looked like a rat and you could always tell she was gonna age like a hag.
which she did. then again that shit was like 18 years ago, i dont think any of them look good today, but still.
>>72082823
Damn, Buffy the Vampire Slayer looks like THAT?
>>72082731
I love the Angel theme.
Also, the Irish guy that died. That's about it.
>>72082787
The first season of most shows are complete shit though, takes awhile to hit their stride. But Angel at its best was a shitload better than Buffy at its best.
>>72082731
Why is Amy Acker so perfect?
>>72082823
I think the girl that ended up in American Pie and HIMYM aged better than most of them.
>>72082823
i agree she aged like shit but prime SMG was GOAT
Its pretty deep actually.
>>72082937
Alyson Hannigan? Anon, I...
>>72083046
both of them had kids but alyson aged like 10% better, mostly has those old woman cheeks while sarah is looking really thin in a bad way
>>72082917
Because she's adorable, and unlike apparently every other woman on Buffy and Angel, she aged like fine wine.
>>72083046
Just needs to lose a few pounds tbqh, she still looks good.
>>72083157
She looks a little better than Buffy, but still not good. She just looks like a friendly fat mom that lives next door, while SMG looks like a shrill, evil jew
>>72078793
In every generation there is a chosen one. She alone will stand against the vampires, the demons, and the forces of darkness. She is the slayer.
>>72083388
>tfw no friendly fat mom next door
Anya>Willow>Buffy>>Tara>>>>>Dawn
indisputable
>>72083640
Why would I dispute when you got it right first time?
>>72083640
post-buffy dawn/michelle is top tier though
>>72083640
Dawn hate is the worst meme.
>>72078793
Joss Whedon has a creepy fetish for teenage girls.
>>72083767
>2002
H O T
O
T
Legal too.
>>72078890
>lesbians
You mean Willow and that ugly bitch? God was I happy when she died, she was one hell of an eye sore.
>>72083419
taking HD buffy webm requests
>>72084229
What is wrong with you
>>72084827
Everything lewd
>>72084827
Anything where you can see Buffy's forearm hair well, or her happy trail if there are any midriff scenes.
Thanks in advance!
>>72080489
>Those fucking boots
Goddamn, movie had prime Isla Fisher and she still stole the show. Costumer deserved an Oscarfor leaving me with pleb-tier fetishes for life
>>72084229
>not liking lesbians with fat asses
Magic Shop > Library > Giles' Apartment > Buffys House
It's awesomely 90s for the first three seasons and then it shits all over itself (albeit with good episodes every once in a while)
>>72084753
Fuck I wanna [SPOILER]protect[/SPOILER] her [SPOILER]smile[/SPOILER] so bad
>>72086624
Fuck you, phone. Fuckin asshole
Oh well you get the gist of it. Dat smile
>>72086624
>>72086680
Qtest 40 year old ever
>>72084229
she's not ugly, but she was a terrible character. In fact the entire "Willow turns gay" storyline was a mistake
I refuse to hd buffy, It just strips away that extra comfyness and highlights flaws.
I wish the non-pretentiousness of the 90s came back
>>72081114
In rewatching the show, i'm kinda convinced that the Illirya storyline was what they meant to do with Cordy at season 4. it's just too similar of a story
>>72079825
>>72079881
The problem with Glory is that she's introduced as this badass who toss Buffy around like a ragdoll, and then proceeds to just sit around in her loft being waited on and not doing jack shit. Then the last few episodes roll around and the writers are all "I guess we should have her do something, huh?"
Working behind the scenes made sense for villains like The Master (magically stuck in his lair) or The Mayor (he doesn't have any superpowers until very late in the season) but not for Glory.
>>72085340
not rally worth a webm, but here's a screenshot.
>>72078890
>if you're a young straight boy
>implying lesbians don't like to see lesbians lezzing it out
>>72080009
The Master, Angelus, Spike, Drusilla, The Nerd Herd, Glory, The First Evil, Adam and the Initiative, and I can't remember Season 3 righ now.
>>72087032
Thank god that isn't how it worked out, then. I can't see anybody else but Amy Acker pulling that off. It very easily could have felt cheap and stupid, but she nailed that role
>>72087591
>forgetting the best villianfu
>>72084827
Post Anya
>>72078793
comfy
like the 90s
>>72087611
it wouldn't have been the same role. but instead of Jasmine being 'born' she would have just taken over Cordy the same way Illirya took over Fred.
>>72082725
Stuff like Inca Mummy Girl and Some Assembly Required? Very mediocre, but not shit.
>>72082725
funny i think the same thing about season 6.
>>72082688
it's occasional. I mean, it's lifted scene for scene from harry potter
>HEY THERE POPULAR PERSON
>COME HANG OUT WITH US
>THE MEAN PEOPLE
>NO I WANT TO HANG OUT WITH THE UNCOOL DORKS
>WELL, NOW WE ARE ENEMIES
>>72082725
Oh, it's that guy that loves season six. No matter how many times you explain it I just don't get it.
3 > 4 > 2 > 5 > 6 > 7 >1
>>72087760
>anything worse than 7
almost had it.
>>72087752
I mean Buffy came out in Jan 1998 and the first Harry Potter book hit the US in September 1998, I wouldn't say "Buffy did it first!" but it's not a unique writing thing either.
>>72087831
>I mean Buffy came out in Jan 1998
m8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer_episodes#Season_1_.281997.29
>>72087831
>Buffy came out in Jan 1998
not even close
>>72087831
im not really complaining, its just uncanny how similar those scenes are, copies of a moment from the heroes journey.
>>72087821
7 beats 1 because it has a few really great episodes that best anything in the first season. Conversations with Dead People is like top 5 of the whole series IMO.
It is mostly subpar though
popular high school girl is the chosen one. which means she fights monsters of the week that represent various things teenagers and young adults have to deal with.
>>72084753
10/10 face, 10/10 soles. Has there ever been a better girl?
>>72087892
>Conversations with Dead People is like top 5 of the whole series IMO.
never got the hype.
all the so called 'good' episodes of season 7 were boring to me.
Buffy/Angel reunion show when
>Pleb
Once More With Feeling
>Fedora
Hush
>Patrician
The Zeppo/Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered
>>72088020
Never. Let them rest.
>>72088033
>Xander episodes
>patrician
fuck off Joss
>>72087108
I love you <3
Jew broad, kills draculas.
>>72083046
What did you expect? She married Wesley Wyndam-Pryce!
>>72084133
I enjoyed her more when she was still 15.
>>72086894
The problem was network censorship at the time. Today women kissing and fucking in PG-7 shows is not even considered edgy any more, back then simply aknowledging a relationship between women was seen as "dangerous".
>>72088033
>no The Body
Come on mang
>"Woah Summers you drive like a spaz!"
Snyder best character.
what did she mean by that?
>>72088919
You motherfucker
>>72089042
that's not what she meant.
>>72089128
Get out you heartless bastard
>>72088770
Band Candy is definitely the best full-on comedy episode
>>72088919
>Would you like me to lie to you now?
>>72088919
I don't even remember the scene. What was said?
>>72089335Wesley, why can't I stay?
>>72089306
>>72089455
stop, plz, i cant handle these feels ;_;
>>72078793
jews and feminism
>>72088919
>>72089455
>>72089548
I didn't even watch the final season of Angel anymore, so I haven't seen this scene, probably. The last season of Angel didn't air in Germany for quite some time (you could even buy the complete box set of S5 way before it ran in TV, but I didn't have the money back then), and when it finally did I had already lost interest
>>72089613
I hope the show is dubbed over in krautland, because your english is terrible.
>>72089711
I'm currently doped on heavy pain medication, so perhaps you'll forgive me just this once, anon. I do have a diploma in English (as a foreign language), but since I don't need English for my work I don't get to speak or write it as much as I'd like.Yes, it's dubbed, and horribly so. Whenever I rewatch Buffy, I do so in English. They removed all but one refference to the "Scoobies" in the German version.
>>72089895
did Xander at least stay Xander?
I know the french changed his name to Alex.
>>72089711
*you're
>>72089988
Yes, it did stay Xander. They changed very little terminology, although they changed "Slayer" to "Jägerin" ("Huntress") since Slayer as a word only has a very vague, bad sounding equivalent in German.
But it's better than the movie, which had the hilariously bad name "Buffy der Vampirkiller"
>>72090007
well memed.
>>72079319
Real list here
>ELDER GOD TIER
Angelus
>GOD TIER
Xander
Spike
Cordy
Glory
Buffy (S1-3)
>GOOD TIER
Willow (S1)
Anya
Giles
Oz
Angel
Mayor
>BRO TIER
Riley
Faith
>OKAY TIER
Wesleyalthough he is irrefutably the GOATest of GOAT characters in AtS
>SHIT TIER
Master
Trio
Willow (S2-5)
>KYS TIER
Willow (S6-7)
Buffy (S4+)
Ben
The First
>>72090753
>Harmony not on list
>>72090753
Tara and Dawn were omitted for good reason too. But if you had to KYS tier and shit tier respectively.
>>72090753
I assume Glory being God Tier is part of the joke.
>>72090933
Ayy we got a real life thinker over here. I've almost got as much subtlety as Whedon, no?
>>72078890
I forgot about that whole lesbian storyline.
>>72078793
D R O P P E D
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>>72090753
>>ELDER GOD TIER
>Angelus
Absolutely this.
Angelus is probably my fav tv character of all time.
GOAT scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ji6i3KSV2A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcN1rcAUg7A
>come home
>see this
what do
>>72092498
Completely mishear the doctors diagnosis
>>72092135
Do you really need something to tell you that? Jesus man just look at her fucking nose. It was never a mystery
>>72092147
I like the hammy Angelus in S4 of Angel the most. That had to be fun playing.
>>72092321
>This scene is cut by 2 seconds on all European DVDs and BluRay because of the fucking Brits.
Thank fucking god for the Brexit.
>>72083767
Oh this isnt where I parked my car
>>72092498
Lower her dress. This isn't a fucking brothel.