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What are some entry level anime movies? Akira, ghost in a shell,
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What are some entry level anime movies?

Akira, ghost in a shell, spirited away?

Ive only seen akira and really liked it, the other 2 i always hear about. any other like this? please dont post obscure nerd shit
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Jin-Roh: the wolf brigade
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>>72043836
redline
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FYI the mods here have lost their marbles and will delete this thread pretty soon. Of course they'll let all the garbage threads stay up like "what did he mean by this" and "is this kino."

But yeah Akira, GitS, anything Ghibli, Patlabor, Jin-Roh, Makoto Shinkai's movies (e.g. 5 Centimeter per Second), Mamoru Hosoda's movies (e.g. The Girl Who Leapt Through Time), Redline, Sword of the Stranger, Memories, Satoshi Kon's movies (e.g. Perfect Blue).
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>>72043912
Actually we could just say that almost any anime movie not tied to a franchise is "entry level." They don't usually require any high power level.
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Miyazaki films:
Princess Mononoke
Spirited Away
NausicaƤ of the Valley of the Wind

Based upon Masamune Shirow stories:
Ghost in the Shell
Ghost in the Shell TV series
Appleseed

Those are my recommendations. There's so much out there that it's hard to know where to point somebody.
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>>72043836
Ninja Scroll
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>>72043912
>Satoshi Kon
fuck yeah, satoshi kon!
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>>72043957
>Appleseed
This is tricky because there are like four different ones out there. The original from the '80s is pretty good, and the first CG one is pretty good; but the other two are a bit "meh".
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W.I.N.G.S. of Honneamise
Castle of Cagliostro
Patlabor
Millennium Actress
Demon City Shinjuku
Macross Plus OVA
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If you are looking for bland shit everyone has seen, just use Google you huge faggot

>But I want to watch anime but pretend it's cool if my mates ask because I'm an insecure little child
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>>72043836
Princess Mononoke
My Neighbor Totoro
Paprika
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>>72044056
>Castle of Cagliostro
Arguably the best of the Lupin III catalogue.
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>>72044056
Ninja Scroll
Ghost in the Shell
Memories
Neo Tokyo
Roujin Z
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>>72044155
he sure does love his matever
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>>72044155
Appleseed
Iria OVA
They were Eleven
Jin-Roh
Blood: The Last Vampire
And when you're done watching all the films recommended ITT, watch Project A-ko
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>>72044201
Yeah, but with an automatic he could have landed two trackers, though
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>>72044155
>>72044209
It must have been really tedious work to paint all those cels by hand and then do all the multiplane shots.
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>>72043836
If you could give some kind of direction as to your tastes that would help.

>Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
Excellent science-fiction police-thriller. Great characterization and mystery.
>Wings of Honneamise
Slow burning existential science-fiction, very thoughtful and mature. Like 'Contact' but not retarded.
>Porco Rosso
Great adventure movie set in Italy between World Wars. All biplanes and old-timey manliness.

>>72044056
Pretty sure the 'Wings' in Honneamise is just 'wings.' It doesn't stand for anything.
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>>72044209
>Project A-ko
Holy Fuck, that first A-ko movie is great! The following films less good.

>>72044221
>he could have landed two trackers, though
Well played, Anon.
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>>72044272
you are correct, I was just remembering the DVD case
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>>72044272
>Porco Rosso
Another overlooked Miyazaki film. I quite liked it.
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>>72044056
>Demon City Shinjuku
i always get this one mixed up with urotsukidoji, DO NOT mix them up if there are kids around
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>>72044209
>>72044275
>Project A-ko
Not bad but true patricians know to watch Cream Lemon.
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>>72044263
animation is incredibly tedious in general
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It's a meme at this point but watch Evangelion. It's not always great but it's an experience worth having.
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Can anybody recommend me some kino anime?
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>>72044485
All the movies listed in this thread.
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>>72044275
>>72044408
First Project A-ko is definitely the best.
Better to watch it after binging on Animu as it's a perfect spoof of typical anime tropes.
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>>72044485
>Belladonna of Sadness
Kino incarnate, just one google image search should convince you
>Wings of Honneamise
The epic that Nolan set out to create and failed miserably with when he made Interstellar
>Cream Lemon
A 52 episode series which easily contains some of the greatest pornography I've ever seen in my life. The episodes range from quaint little nothings to small self-contained Bergman flicks.
>Genocyber
Misanthropic cyberpunk body-horror masterpiece
>Video Girl Ai
A pretty but stupid and sentimental piece of shit that's played so straight and sincere that it physically hurts
>Twilight Q
Two stylish and moody as hell short mystery pieces that were intended to kickstart a much longer running series. First part, 'A Knot in Time' is in my opinion one of the most underappreciated pieces of anime ever made.

Off the top of my head that does it.
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>>72044485
Midori
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>>72044584
>spoof
A former Japanese girlfriend watched this with me and she found it mostly bizarre, but she did enjoy that the fighter pilots were given twangy accents to sound like Southerners or Cowboys. It always amazed me how little she understood when watching anime; I mean, she was from the island, but she couldn't grasp cultural artifacts like A-ko.
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>>72044485
labyrinth labyrinthos
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>>72044674
B-ko a cute!
CUTE!
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>>72044674
My favorite part is when A-ko uses the missiles as stepping stones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdX6U5OOoag

5:20 if anyone wants to see.
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tokikake, perfect blue, even cowboy bebop the movie
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Can anyone here recommend me an anime or a manga about samurai, but when they were still a military force fighting in huge battles. I am not talking about ronin stuff like rurouni kenshin and samurai champloo.
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Grave of the Fireflies
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Can anyone recommend an anime about cute little girls?

Never been in to anime really, yet I've watched welcome to the N.H.K, which really triggered me.

I want more of that triggering, I want cute little girls, but I also want the animation to not be total garbage.
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>>72045106
Kid finds the mech in a box or something?
Think i have the dvd
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>>72045413
You mean like high school students?
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>>72045023
Only if you wanna feel
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>>72045413
>Not total garbage animation
>Anime
Pick one.
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>>72045530
Anime has the best hand-drawn animation you'll find.
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>>72043873
redline is great, maybe not the best for a starter but damn those visuals are fantastic
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>>72045469
Yeah, that could work.

What I liked about welcome to the N.H.K was the fact that it was literally shitting all over its audience, but it made you emotionally invested enough to see past that, as the protagonist is literally 90% of all weebs.

I want to feel something again, it's been too long.
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>>72043836
mind game + your favourite substance
actually, you can just look up escape from the whale and be done with it, if you are in a hurry
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>>72044967
sword of the stranger

not a series, mostly small fights 1v1s until the end but the ending is great. can be pretty slow at times but it might be what you're looking for. just give it a chance and make it to the ending
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>>72044967
DON'T WATCH SHIGURUI, IT IS SHIT
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>>72045616
Weebs are walking monuments to cringe. NHK's protagonist is just mentally ill. Weebs also don't exist in Japan.

If you're looking for something similiar to NHK then Watamote is probably your next stop but there aren't that many shows like it.
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>>72045733
Not necessarily like it, although I did like the depressing aspect.

I just want something that could trigger and emotional response, preferably with a cute girl or two as well.

I'll check that out.
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>>72045796
There's tons of shows that meet that criteria. Like Air, Kanon and Clannad.
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>>72044485

Legend of the Galatic Heroes

Aka Japanese War and Peace
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The Big O
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>>72045551
It's got good art and style.
The actual animation is lazy.
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>>72045896
aka borefest
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>>72045934
>lazy
There's that meme again.

It has nothing to do with laziness. Animation production has limitations on time, money and staff and you can't have everything. Not even Disney's supposedly perfect features had everything.

Anime chooses to focus on quality over quantity, so while they could have a lot more animation than they do now they would have to reduce quality. That said, people exaggerate the limitedness of the animation to a fantastical degree. Probably because they've watched hardly any anime and just repeat what they've heard.

This is apparently not lazy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLvZ1rzHDSQ

But this is lazy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92cesUa9ORc#t=0m56s

Makes sense.
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Paprika is really good. Basically a more light hearted, colourful version of Inception.
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>>72045413
If you're going to do this you can at least do it right. Go back to the 70s, when everything was objectively superior. Pic related and Aim for the Ace! are my two personal favourites but there's plenty of great stuff.
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>>72046021
>Triggered weeb
Wew lad

If you want to deny frames are dropped, sequences get repeated, "standing perfectly still except repeated hair cycle and mouth" happens or fight sequences from films get traced, fine. Live in denial.
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the miyazaki one where the little girl is the mc and saves the day
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>>72046130
What you did there see I it.
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>>72045982
pleb
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>>72046090
I wasn't triggered and I'm not a weeb.

>If you want to deny frames are dropped
You mean it's not 24 FPS? Well no shit. That would be impossible.

>sequences get repeated
Very rarely.

>"standing perfectly still except repeated hair cycle and mouth"
What about it?

>fight sequences from films get traced
I've never heard of that happening. Rotoscoping is rare in anime.

And what's your point anyway? That anime isn't the absolute human pinnacle of hand-drawn animation with no compromises whatsoever? Nobody claimed that it was.
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>>72046166
>Triggering intesifies.
It's barely half of Western FPS. Which isn't always a compromise for better quality. You cherry pick.

>Very rarely
Odd way to type all the time

>Fight sequences traced
>never heard of it
Try google sometime, maybe start with a liitle known flick... Cattle Wrancher Jazz-SubGenre I think.

I'm saying the animation, is lazy.
Which on at least one point, you agree happens.
I'm not insulting your fucking cartoons by being honest about the way the animation cuts corners.
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>>72046283
>Triggering intesifies.
No it doesn't.

>It's barely half of Western FPS.
Anime doesn't have a constant framerate. It varies.

>Which isn't always a compromise for better quality.
I'm talking about the general principle of it. Anime could look like Family Guy and get blazing fast framerates, but then it would also look like shit.

>You cherry pick.
What do you think I'm cherry picking exactly?

>Odd way to type all the time
I said very rarely because I meant very rarely.

>Try google sometime
So you can't name any examples, then?

>I'm saying the animation, is lazy.
I'm saying that's a meme, because that's exactly what it is. It, again, has nothing to do with "laziness." If anime animators wanted to be lazy then why would they have such extravagantly detailed and complex character designs that are always shaded? Why would they bother with things like three-dimensional camera movement and foreshortening? Why go through the trouble of, say, drawing an MG-42 as it appears in real life instead of just making up something that looks vaguely like a machine gun? And so on.

>Which on at least one point, you agree happens.
What are you talking about?

>I'm not insulting your fucking cartoons by being honest about the way the animation cuts corners.
Nobody said anime doesn't "cut corners." Do you live in some fantasy world where Western animation makes zero compromises? Even Disney made them.
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>>72043836
Porco Rosso is both accessible to western audiences and extremely good.
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>>72046406
I literally named an example asspained asspie. If you're too enraged to even read my responses, why should I bother typing them?
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>>72046455
>I literally named an example asspained asspie.
Named what? "Cattle Wrancher"? That doesn't return anything on Google and I've never heard of it.

>If you're too enraged to even read my responses
You are projecting.
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>>72046455
Man you're a huge tool. We get it, you don't like anime and will resort to making shit up because it feels like you're losing face
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>akira
>ghost in a shell
>paprika
start with those desu
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>>72043957
>Miyazaki films
>no porco rosso
heresy
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>>72046497
Not even him, but dude...
Dude, Cattle Wrancher Jazz Sub Genre
CATTLE WRANCHER
JAZZ SUB GENRE
Are you retarded?
Even Normie's know that anime.
Did you somehow miss the fucking pun?
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>>72046985
Cowboy Bebop? Ok, what did it rotoscope?
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>>72046985
Perhaps it's because you keep writing wrancher and that's not a fucking word, you illiterate troglodyte.

Cowboy Bebop is inferior to Outlaw Star anyway.
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>>72047000
Every fight with Spike. Its not "rotoscoped" either. They just trace Bruce Lee fights.
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Starship Troopers
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>>72047079
Tracing means rotoscoping.

So even if they did copy fights from Bruce Lee movies, what's that supposed to prove?

Incidentally, American animation has used rotoscoping a lot. Disney even recycled it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbjVjZrrE3w
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>>72047119
No, rotoscoping is a specific technique where live action has animation applied over it.

I think he was saying animation was lazy, and by tracing a fight frame for frame rather than choreographing their own is lazy.

I literally don't give a fuck about your autistic argument either way, you not getting the pun just amused me.
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>>72047163
>tracing a fight frame for frame
I.e. rotoscoping it.

Even if Bebop did copy some fights from Bruce Lee, it doesn't mean anything.
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>>72047163
Perhaps it's because you keep writing wrancher and that's not a fucking word, you illiterate troglodyte.
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>>72047198
See a Scanner Darkly. That's rotoscoping.

I dunno, to me it seems kinda lazy and at least implies a level of cutting corners that the other guy implies. I dunno man, if its really such a personal matter to you, I guess you won't be willing to see it from another perspective.
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>>72047253
>>72047012

Yeah, this is spam.
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>>72047280
I know what rotoscoping is.

>I dunno, to me it seems kinda lazy and at least implies a level of cutting corners that the other guy implies.
It's a single series out of thousands, and even if they copy the choreography of a fight they still have to animate it, which may be a lot of work depending on what kind of fight it is. Storyboarding something is the easy part; actually animating it is where things get difficult.
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>>72047337
>Tracing a fight is difficult
I'm not sure I agree, in comparison to creating it from scratch. I'm guessing it happens more than you realise if you didn't know about it happening in Cowboy Bebop. Or you just filter out any and all ideas you perceive as criticism to anime.
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>>72047387
They didn't rotoscope them.

>I'm guessing it happens more than you realise if you didn't know about it happening in Cowboy Bebop
Or maybe, as people so often do, you're extrapolating too much from too little. "This one anime copied a fight from a movie, so it must be normal in anime."

Cowboy Bebop is very strongly influenced by kung fu movies and I think Spike's fighting style was based on Jeet Kune Do. So it's not like they just randomly copied something because they couldn't be bothered to make their own choreography.

>Or you just filter out any and all ideas you perceive as criticism to anime.
I've already soundly refuted this criticism.
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>>72047477
Dude, I'd really suggest you google the topic. It was traced frame for frame, call it rotoscoping if you want, even though that's wrong.

It wasn't based on Jeet Kun Do, it was copied from Bruce Lee, performing the style frame for frame. Considering you seem to have only just learned this happened in this thread and are already acting like an expert, I'm forced to conclude you have some perceived personal stake in this.

>I've refuted this statement
Good for you?
I'm not sure I agree with that based on the limited interaction I've had with you.
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>>72047604
Rotoscoping means tracing footage frame by frame. So you're saying it was rotoscoping but also that it was not rotoscoping. Which is it?

>It wasn't based on Jeet Kun Do, it was copied from Bruce Lee, performing the style frame for frame.
I said Spike's fighting style is based on Jeet Kune Do. I was not talking about any specific scenes. My point was that they did not just randomly go "fuck it, let's just look up some martial arts movie and copy something." His fighting style is Jeet Kune Do and the series is influenced by kung fu movies. It wasn't a random decision.

>Considering you seem to have only just learned this happened in this thread and are already acting like an expert, I'm forced to conclude you have some perceived personal stake in this.
What are you talking about?

>I'm not sure I agree with that based on the limited interaction I've had with you.
Why do you not agree?

Also, nobody has actually posted any of the scenes that they say were taken from Bruce Lee movies. How many are there? To what extent do they copy?
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>>72047674
I really can't be bothered with your autism pal, the other dude had the right idea. The more you type, the more you seem like an asspie who's regularly on here screaming how much he isn't a weeb, yet proving it more and more with every post. In fact, on re reading I'm certain of it.

Here's a bit of polite advice. You aren't winning arguments. Your autism just exhausts people.
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>>72047763
>anyone who says things I don't like is autistic
Ok.

>The more you type, the more you seem like an asspie who's regularly on here screaming how much he isn't a weeb, yet proving it more and more with every post. In fact, on re reading I'm certain of it.
The only reason I tell people I'm not a weeb is because they claim I am one. And they're never able to explain why.

>Here's a bit of polite advice. You aren't winning arguments.
I just did.
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>>72047831
We aren't talking about cartoons, and anime is also television and film.
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>>72047847
Your autism just exhausts people.
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>>72047847
>My japanese cartoons aren't cartoons
n1ce 0n3
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>>72047877
I have no autism and you're just making excuses for running out of arguments.

>>72047882
Anime and cartoons are two different, unrelated things.
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>>72047945
You're literally one of the most autistic people on here.
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>>72048122
You literally have no arguments to back that up. You're just trying to change the subject since you lost the argument.
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>>72048159
I literally came back to this thread after a shower and it all went to shit because of your autism. I have no stake in whatever bullshit you're peddling today, but your shit ruins countless anime threads. Please, do us all a favour and become a tripfag so we can at least choose to filter you. Its not as though we can't recognise you anyways, this just gives us the option to allow threads to continue without your crap.
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>>72048245
I have no autism and I didn't make anything go to shit.

If people say something about anime that's incorrect, I'll simply correct them. Don't like it? Stop making incorrect statements. In fact, stop talking about anime altogether. Problem solved.

Stop blaming others for problems that you cause.
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>>72048457
>stop talking about anime altogether
>anime thread
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>>72048457
You reply to every single troll like the fucking world depends on it. They are baiting you and like a fucking moron you bite every fucking time.

If you're so fucking autistic that you think you will beat obvious fucking trolls by "educating them" you are beyond fucking help. They aren't going to stop baiting you if you keep fucking replying. You are the fucking problem because you're too much of a fucking autistic spastic to ignore them.
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>>72043873
This
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>>72047119
Waltz with Bashir is rotoscoped.
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>>72047079
>Every fight with Spike. Its not "rotoscoped" either. They just trace Bruce Lee fights.
They didn't do this. It's a meme that's spread to defame anime even though there's no evidence for it. Bruce Lee only made a few movies, it shouldn't be difficult to pick out the scenes that were supposedly traced and present a comparison, and yet no such comparison exists.

Yes, they based Spike's fighting style on Jeet Kune Do, but that's the extent of it.
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>>72048526
>>72048526
>>72048526

Learning this lesson is all it would take to save 4chan. 5% of the site having retarded pointless arguments with another 5% of the site creates 99% of the fucking content here. Anon you aren't smarter than the other guy or more educated, he's just saying shit that's wrong because you won't stop replying.

https://youtu.be/ZxQf_WXF0nc

FIGHT AUTISM! POST FUTUREFUNK!
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>>72048654
There's a video on YouTube that does so. Not saying its a direct copy, more a homage. Sadly, don't recall the name of the video.
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>>72048457
You, read this >>72048671
Especially the green text below.
>he's just saying shit that's wrong because you won't stop replying.
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>>72048692
>Sadly, don't recall the name of the video.
Well that's fucking convenient, isn't it?

And yet, examples of western animation outright copying Japanese animation are aplenty. But no, let's rag on anime, for being unprovably similar to live action...
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>>72048532

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2H_FsmxWzc

gorgeous

I wasn't a huge fan of the film itself, though. Got bored halfway through
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>>72048809
Well, not its pretty inconvenient but there's no need to be pissy. I literally say I disagree with the video that claims its lazy, its a homage. And if you can't search youtube that's not my issue.

And I'm pretty sure BOTH of those scenes have a common root. Boondocks didn't copy Naruto, they both copied a third original fight scene.
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>>72044485
>>72043836
Perfect Blue
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>>72048841
Sword of the Stranger has the best final duel in any film, LA or animu or Western animation.
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>>72048503
he probably incites anime arguments on /tv/ so much he forgets which threads are which
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>>72048841
>>72048858
You seem upset that people who animate shows are anime fans. I'm confused as to why.
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>>72048883
>And I'm pretty sure BOTH of those scenes have a common root. Boondocks didn't copy Naruto, they both copied a third original fight scene.
Oh yeah? From a Bruce Lee movie? A movie where Bruce punches a kid so hard in the face he lifts off the floor?
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>>72048895
Didn't Aronofsky buy the rights for Perfect Blue only for this scene then ended up giving it the Argento treatment for Black Swan?
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what's da shit on the bottom?
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>>72048913
I honestly don't recall, but that seems a likely candidate. I'm sorry for not having a photographic memory. IIRC a response video to the one I mentioned before covers this scene. But it was literally years ago since I saw it.
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never ending story
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>>72049058
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>>72045106
still have the VHS
still one of my favs.
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>>72048503
I mean if you don't want people explaining to you how you're wrong about something, then don't talk about anime.

>>72048526
Every single "trolls" starts whining about anime or some aspect of it like the world depends on it.

>They are baiting you
"They're only pretending to be retarded!"

>>72048547
It's also not anime.

>>72048751
"They're only pretending to be retarded!"

>>72048908
How am I forgetting which thread is which? And how did I incite this argument?
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>>72049168
look at this dude.

taking on like 5 different posters at once
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Vampire Hunter D:Bloodlust
Has great visuals, decent plot.I even cried at the ending.
Shame no one ever talks about it.
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>>72049168
FUCK THIS DISCUSSION POST EXPERIMENTAL DANCE MUSIC:

https://youtu.be/_0nxt7pcTN4
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>>72049188
What about it?
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>>72049279
Damn, that was a good sequence
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>>72049168
Yes, you spastic. They are literally pretending to be retarded because they see how easy it is to get you "upset". When I was a younger man who came here just to troll and shitpost a faggot like you would come along once in a blue moon. You are a goldmine to trolls. You need to try to read things like:

" Anime is cartoons."

You need to maybe apply your crticial thinking and say "are they really serious or is this just bait?" And if they KEEP saying it REPEATEDLY maybe you should err towards it being bait.
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>>72049306
That post was a good example of the kind of thing you should NOT be replying to.
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>>72049279
I must be some kind of mutant since I'm the only one in these shit threads who prefers the original. The ending to Bloodlust was nice but I consider it the Fury Road to the original Vampire Hunter D's Mad Max. It's flashy and fast but I feel like it skimps on substance for the sake of that.

The first one felt like a fantastic homage to Hammer-Horror/Mario Bava while doing its own thing and looking great. The new one's aesthetic felt too slick for classic horror. It's an incredibly nice looking movie but I'll always be more fond of the original.

Also post underrated pop-music since no anime discussion can lead anywhere good on /tv/.

https://youtu.be/FYLon-rki10
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>>72049355
>They are literally pretending to be retarded
You are literally claiming that because you are doing damage control on their behalf.

>You need to maybe apply your crticial thinking and say "are they really serious or is this just bait?"
It's a very commonplace belief.
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>>72049405
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>>72049398
Why shouldn't I reply to it? Because he can't come up with a response and that makes him, and by extension your side, look bad?
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>>72049279
>curving crosses
>water freezing
Fuck, I can't remember when I last saw some anime with those visuals and details.
I think it was GITS movie
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Does anyone know decent animes revolving real -world events / places / items / believable shit?

more focused on war, poltiics etc.
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>>72049406
>>72049446
Anybody else suspect that these posts are actually just an even higher form of memeing that most anons haven't evolved to completely comprehend yet? It's either that or legitimate full-blown autism.

>>72049405
>>72049432
ye I like that movie too.

https://youtu.be/-QDKHkwM-0w
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>>72049480
You people keep saying over, over, over, over, over, over, over, over, over and over again that I'm "autistic" yet you're completely unable to back it up.
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>>72049406
I am, like a fool, attempting to give you some good advice in the vain hope you learn something.

Who cares if its a commonplace belief. You aren't going to change the mind of a troll. Because they are pretending to hold that belief purely to upset you.

And even IF they are sincere, (its 4chan so 99% of them are trolling you about the anime/cartoon thing) why care? What does it matter to you personally if a random anon can't tell the difference between animation styles? Literally nothing. So don't let it "upset" you.
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>>72049461
The premise of 'Legend of the Galactic Heroes' is future-history. Think 'War & Peace' about a space-war.

Mamoru Oshii loves himself some politics so you might want to look into his work.

Shit anon, why do you want a medium with so much potential to act as a pop-textbook for you? It's this kind of thinking that makes 'The Martian' a bestseller.

>>72049533
>unable to back it up
I think I just found some evidence. Here, look at this picture for a while.

https://youtu.be/-fHqWHlnQ0w
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>>72049480
You make an interesting theory. I really want to think he's some kind of meta troll just to give him benefit of the doubt
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>>72049459
Shame there is no enabled audio on /tv/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB-ik-Bpl0c
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>>72049533
OK, if you'll permit me a hypothetical scenario, I want you to prove I'm black. How would you go about it?
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>>72049461
Joker Game, Jin-Roh, Cockpit (haven't seen it though), Patlabor, Flag,

Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu, Noir and Riding Bean don't involve war or politics.
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>>72043836

Colorful!
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>>72043836
Kiki's Delivery Service is so comfy.
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>>72049539
Your "advice" is nothing but damage control on behalf of your allies.

>And even IF they are sincere, why care?
Why aren't you asking them that question?

>>72049598
How am I trolling?

>>72049649
I have no reason to think you're black.
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>>72049693
I have no allies here, we aren't a homogenous group mind out to get you. And I assure you I am being sincere.

You don't need to reply to obvious trolls anon, please try to apply yourself. Think before you reply "am I being trolled?" And if the answer is yes, don't reply.
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>>72049693
That's why its a hypothetical scenario.
PRETEND you are convinced I'm black and that you want to prove it. How would you prove it?
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It's a short in an anthology movie, but "Magnetic Rose" from "Memories" is a must watch
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>>72049756
You are doing damage control on behalf of your allies.

>>72049789
What are you expecting me to say? Even if I pretend I think you're black, I have no idea what the scenario is and what has made me think that way. Where are you trying to go with this?

Also it's funny that people accuse me of shitting up threads about anime by talking about anime, when what actually ends up happening is arguments like this where people argue about me and my supposed qualities. They start it and yet somehow I'm at fault.
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>>72049883
You are at fault. Because you reply. I'm not giving you any further advice, you can choose to try and learn or choose to keep being trolled, its up to you.

And for the last time, I have no "allies". You sound paranoid.
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>>72049817
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>>72049949
You are at fault because you start these arguments in the first place.

>And for the last time, I have no "allies". You sound paranoid.
You sound like you're doing damage control.
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>>72049693
Are you the same autist that hops in every anime thread on /tv/?
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>>72049817
>>72049954
Also, Genius Party and especially Genius Party Beyond are worth watching too.

And Robot Carnival

And the Animatrix and Gotham Knight...

Anthology anime movies rock my socks
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>>72049982
I'm not an autist, and why is it a problem for people to participate in anime threads?
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>>72049883
>What are you expecting me to say?
How you would prove I'm black.
>I have no idea what the scenario is
You think I'm black and want to prove it
>what has made me think that way.
Not important.
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>>72048931
Pretty much. It's just a poor adaptation of PB.
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>>72050063
>Not important.
It is important. It's crucial, in fact. If there's no reason for me to think you're black then there's no reason for me to say you are, and even if I said it anyway there'd be no way for me to argue my case.
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>>72050014
Yes you are. You're the guy who's in denial about being a weeb. Even when having it explained to you why you're a weeb you were incapable of understanding why. You're that same faggot who defends moe cute girl shit.
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>>72049664

Thanks anon, some good stuff to go off.
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End of Evangelion
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Cowboy Bebop: Knockin' on Heaven's Door
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>>72050111
Its really not important for the purposes of the question.
God forced you, a wizard did it, your mom will throw you out of the basement, it is NOT important.

The point is that through whatever series of events, you have come to the conclusion that I am black and you want to prove it.

>even if I said it anyway there'd be no way for me to argue my case.
Why's that?
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>>72050144
Explain how I'm a weeb.

Oh, wait, you can't. None of you can. You keep making the accusation yet you're never able to back it up. Ridiculous.

>You're that same faggot who defends moe cute girl shit.
"You're that same faggot who questions the things I say and doesn't immediately accept them as self-evident truths and doesn't hate all the same things I hate!"
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Anybody who argues in these threads should kill themselves desu. It's the only crazy game, it's the only foolish dream.
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>>72050208
>Its really not important for the purposes of the question.
It's absolutely necessary as I just explained and nothing you say will change that.

>Why's that?
Because it's not based on anything.

Again, where are you going with this? If you have a point then let's hear it.
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>>72050268
Fine.
You can make up whatever scenario you find acceptable that means that here on 4chan there is doubt, but you need to prove I'm black.

How would you do it?
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>>72049993
>Animatrix
Second Renaissance was 10/10 in my book.
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>>72050312
Ok, here's a scenario: you upload a selfie proving beyond any doubt that you took it, and the selfie shows that you're black. Boom, done.

Again, where are you going with this? If you have a point then let's hear it.
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>>72048828
>Got bored halfway through
Holy shit you have some severe low-intelligence born ADHD.
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>>72050156
Angel's Egg > Eva
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>>72050381
I refuse to upload a selfie. Now how do you prove it?
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>>72050406
It's my scenario so I make the rules.

Again, where are you going with this? If you have a point then let's hear it.
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>>72050424
No, its my hypothetical question, with my hypothetical responses.

I said you can make whatever choice you want in order to ARRIVE at the scenario. Not to SOLVE it. That's the difference.

Having asked me to upload a seflie, I refuse.
How now do you prove what you wish to prove?
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>>72050486
You begged and pleaded me to be the dungeon master of this stupid roleplaying excercise of yours, and I did. If you don't like how I run the campaign then there's the door.

It's obvious that you are going absolutely nowhere with this and have no point to make.
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>>72050544
No player, you misunderstand who is the dungeon master.

Having asked me to upload a selfie, I refuse.
How do you prove I am black?
Can you prove I am black if I refuse to help you or cooperate? Yes or No?
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>>72050614
>blah blah blah
Uh huh.
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>>72050663
>Uh huh
OK, a yes then.

You believe that you CAN prove I'm black even if I refuse to cooperate.

How do you go about doing so?
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>>72050701
I didn't confirm or deny anything in that post.
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>>72050729
You gave an affirmative, so. Back to the campaign.

Having refused to give you a selfie, you assert you can still prove I'm black.

How do you accomplish this?
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posting anime in case anon arguing with himself is boring any of you

https://youtu.be/ElgUKFLoifA
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Anime must be the most overrated crap on 4chan. I'm guessing it's because of the origin of this site.
Fucking Hungary has more good films than there are good anime and yet I don't see any threads about Hungarian cinema.
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>>72050773
>You gave an affirmative
No, I didn't. You are lying.

>>72050805
Just because you once saw an episode of Dragon Ball Z on TV once doesn't mean you're an expert on anime.
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>>72049817
>not also recommending Cannon Fodder

Stink Bomb is trash, just skip it
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>>72050842
Uh huh is an affirmative, its a synonym for yes, especially a disinterested one.

I think you'd have more fun if you played.

So, answer the question. I think I know why you want to avoid it.

How donyou prove I am black if I refuse to give you information?
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>>72050842
Give me one reason why I should watch a cute little girl anime instead of something with a coherent plot and good storytelling.
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>>72050897
Cannon Fodder is a great 1984 adaptation
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>>72050842
Are you an expert on Hungarian Cinema?
If not, how can you compare?
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>>72050156
Yeah its great and all, but too bad you need to watch the show to understand what... oh wait, you still won't be able to understand (at least on first viewing)
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>>72050805
Post superior Hungarian animation ITT from now on.

https://youtu.be/0eSdOPcHum8

How the fuck can asians even compete?
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>>72050982
Hungary >>>> Nippon

https://youtu.be/OwzqtF2W6RQ
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>>72050904
>Uh huh is an affirmative
It also means something else and you know exactly what, so drop the act.

>>72050906
"Little girl anime" is a meme. In reality the vast majority of female characters in anime are in middle or high school or older. Little girls and "little girls" are also not mutually exclusive with storytelling. The tightly plotted Madoka Magica is an example. Not to mention, of course, that not all anime involves little girls or "little girls."

>>72050937
I didn't say anything about Hungarian cinema.
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Hey I think Jin-Roh's animation is pretty GOAT. Can any recommend more Hiroyuki Okiura-tier animation? Already seen Memories, Akira, Gits, and Paprika
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>>72051016
yo whats with these eva cells and shit
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>>72051034
You're the actor, I'm the dungeon master and you have a simple question to answer.

How would you prove I'm a black guy? I'm not giving you any information, but you still think I am. I'm telling you to prove it. How do you prove it?
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>>72051043
A Letter to Momo, directed by Okiura:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4KLGfBb_3M
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>>72051043
A Letter to Momo, IIRC.
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>>72051079
I don't have to answer shit because this whole thing is a farce. You have not explained ANYTHING about where you're going with this, because you're not going anywhere with it. I can't even fathom what your objective here is. It's totally inexplicable.
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>>72051111
>>72051112
ty nerds
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>>72051137
I'm going somewhere with it, but I need your participation. This hypothetical scenario is designed to make you think. You're capable of thinking aren't you?

So answer, if you're smart enough.

How would you prove I am black, if I refuse to help you?
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>>72051184
I've already told you many times now that this is idiotic and isn't going to go anywhere no matter how much you whine and cry about it. I have no reason to think you're black, therefore I'm not going to claim you're black, and even if I did claim that I couldn't prove it since the claim is not based on anything and nothing supports it. Pretty simple to anyone with basic reasoning skills.
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>>72051069
They look nice and I think it's neat to see how all of these unbelievably sleek looking images started out as sketches.
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>>72051232
> I couldn't prove it
Bingo.
You couldn't prove it.

If you wanted to prove I was black, you couldn't. No matter how much you tried.

Would that prove I was not black, or would it simply prove you CANNOT prove it...?
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>>72051286
>blah blah blah
Are you going tell me where the fuck you're going with this or not?
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>>72051256
Here's one animated by Hiroyuki Okiura.
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>>72051302
I've asked you a further question, are you even reading?

You have admitted you could not prove I was black.

Does that prove I am not black? Yes or No?
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>>72051034
>little girl anime is a meme
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>>72051338
Well obviously I can't fucking prove it. I don't even think you're black. I have no reason to think you're black. How could I possibly then "prove" you're black?

This is retarded.
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>>72051339
Yes it is a meme. That's what I just said. In the post you just quoted. I also explained what makes it a meme.
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>>72051354
Well done, you finally understand.

There is no possible way you could prove it.

BUT

Does that mean I am NOT black just because YOU cannot prove it?
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>>72051387
I don't know or care anything about your race. Maybe you should go ask someone on Tumblr instead.
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>>72051401
But does that mean I am NOT black just because you cannot prove it?
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>>72051418
I don't care about your race.

>>>/Tumblr/
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>>72051373
Any anime that relies on cute girls doing cute things, regardless of their age, is shit. Idolshit and haremshit earned their moniker for a reason.
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>>72051433
Anon, you were so close. So close.

You have admitted you cannot possibly prove I'm black, or white, or brown, or Chinese or Japanese or pretty much anything without my cooperation.

Just because you CANNOT prove a fact, does that make a fact untrue?

You can't prove where I am, how I'm sat or stood, who I am, what sex I am, what I'm using to post, you can't prove ANYTHING about me unless I give you further information.

BUT just because you cannot prove ANYTHING does that mean it isn't true?

You've admitted you cannot prove things about a person without the other person helping you to do so. Do you get it yet?
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>>72051527
>Any anime that relies on cute girls doing cute things, regardless of their age, is shit
That's what the meme says, and how could we ever second guess memes?

>Idolshit and haremshit earned their moniker for a reason.
Are you saying those are about "cute girls doing cute things"? They're not. But yes, they have earned their monikers for a reason--just not a good reason.

The West is in a state of batshit crazy mass hysteria regarding anime, even as very few people watch it anymore.

>>72051545
>>>/Tumblr/
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>>72051606
Come on anon, apply that intellect you claim to have.

You have proven and admitted you can't prove anything about me unless I am honest with you and give you further information.

Don't you get what I'm getting at yet?

Are you really this stupid?

Can you really not see how this applies TO YOU?
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>>72051668
I don't care about your race, please go to Tumblr if you want to discuss your racial trauma or whatever issue it is that you have.
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>>72051698
Read my post, the scenario applies to you now.

It applies to you.

Do you get it?

You can't prove anything about me I unless I give you the information.

We can't prove anything about you unless you give us the information.

If I tell you "prove I'm black".
You can't prove it.
It may still be true.

If you tell us " prove I'm a weeb"
We can't prove it.
It may still be true.

If ypou really can't see how the scenario reversed applies to you, well, I can only say a lack of empathy is indicative of certain conditions.
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>>72051791
>If you tell us " prove I'm a weeb"
>We can't prove it.
Then stop making the claim.
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>>72051819
But it may still be true.

That's the crucial part you're choosing to ignore

Just as you cannot prove I'm black. But that doesn't prove its untrue.
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>>72051843
If you think it may be true then prove it. If you can't prove it then you must retract your claim.
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>>72051917
Are you retarded or something?
Don't you get it?

I can't prove you're black, that doesn't mean its not true.
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you should go drown yourselves
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>>72051974
So you read my posts, decide I must be a weeaboo based on what I've written, and then claim I am one. Yet you cannot offer ANY reasons whatsoever as to why you think I am one, and when I ask you to explain yourself you're all like "I can't prove it but that doesn't mean you aren't one!"

Millennials sure are special.
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>>72052022
You can't prove I'm black.
I can't prove you're black.

You may still be black.
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>>72052088
And on what basis are you suspecting I might be a weeaboo? Nothing. You have no basis. So why does the suspicion exist in the first place? What the hell is wrong with you?
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>>72050388

I have to agree with >>72048828

I enjoyed the movie the first time I saw it, but repeat viewings left me pretty cold. The very first part, the Yellowline race, is what I find the most interesting; the Redline race is so chaotic and broken up that it barely resembles a real race anymore and only gets tense again at the very end. The animation's amazing at times, but when I don't care for what's happening it doesn't really matter. The parts inbetween all the action can't really hold my attention in repeat viewings.

I would've loved a 'short' 45 minute movie with more race action like the Yellowline sequence instead of the overly chaotic and drawn out Redline race.
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>>72052124
You said it in your own post, that we base it on your posts.

But as I have said, at length, the fact we can't prove it or disprove it, doesn't prove anything.

Short of spelling it out with spaghetti letters, I can't explain it any further. So, yeah... Have a nice life.
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>>72052221
You base it on my posts yet you cannot provide any explanation as to what has made you think I'm a weeaboo. And yet still your accusation must be valid because "well you MIGHT be a weeaboo even if we can't explain how, who knows."

Imagine if I went to a political debate and told my opponent he must be a leftist and he asked me to explain what makes me think that, and I couldn't give any explanation at all. It would be idiotic.
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>>72052282
If I said something like "Japan is the best country on the planet, much better in every way than the shitty West, and I want to move there and watch and talk about anime with my Japanese bros" you could definitely say I'm a weeaboo. So it's not like you somehow can't prove it. You just can't find anything in my posts that would pin me as a weeaboo.
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>>72050897
You said what plebian?
Stink Bomb is Otomo best work.
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>>72052199
Yeah it's true. It's visually stunning, but Takeshi Koike isn't so good at directing.

After it was finally released, Madhouse fired him. People like to tout the meme that it took seven years to animate, but that's not entirely the case, it was in production hell for seven years, animation was only a couple. When Koike finally figured out what he was doing and actually got the film finished, it was impossible to recoup the cost caused by his dillydallying, and he got the chop.
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>>72043836
memories
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