Find a flaw
Filled with straight white males
>no Arnold
the germans lose
>>72028023
I suppose from a historical perspective, the entire premise of the film is bizarre.
schmaltzy pandering american veteran worship movie that makes ppl believe that US stopped nazis. it's just bad art. they made stuff like this in soviet union
>>72028023
Can't. One of my war favorite movies of all time. Almost as good as band of brothers
>>72028023
Male on male rape scene
The brutal "realism" of battle doesn't gel well with the Hollywood plot.
>>72028023
It's garbage. There, that wasn't hard.
Do I buy that on blu-ray?
The good guys lose
Spielberg takes this weird sadistic glee in killing people. He's trying to horrify the audience and titillate at the same time, and ends up with a bizarre tone where graphic deaths are treated as punchlines.
It implicitly approves of killing POWs, and depicts violence as a write of passage into manliness
The scene with the collapsed wall is just strange, it's half a joke that isn't funny and half a real threat that is extinguished in seconds. It should have been a deleted scene
It was made in 1997 but has the politics and tact of a 1943 propaganda movie.
>>72028023
their mission to find matt damon's character
>>72029168
This is such a strange critique
SPR is one of my favorite war movies but I have no idea how to respond to this
>>72029168
>It implicitly approves of killing POWs
not really
>>72029168
This i hate that fucking weird wall scene
The tone is totally fucked you're right
Also all the scenes with old damon are fucking boring
>>72029168
Point 2 is wrong
Point 3 & 4 have some merit
Point 1 is bang on
>>72029306
>old damon
That's not Damns characters, It's Reiben. The story follows Tom Hanks character, not Damons. The old man at the beginning is remembering Hanks entire story, not just the part with Ryan. The only one to be with Miller the entire time and survive? Reiben.
>>72028099
Why did he never get a vidya?
>>72029274
I think so
>translator guy advocates letting the short haired german go
>later a different german who looks identical to the first kills his friend
>he is too much of a coward to kill the german
>captures and executes the german, and is shown as crowd cheering moment
Casting two identical looking men in the only significant German roles has a strong dehumanizing effect on them. They're all the same, and if he wasn't so moral (read cowardly) he would kill any German without hesitation.
That's really my issue with SPR overall. He tries very hard to portray war as an awful thing but makes the most rousing war film in decades, re-affirming all the myths of heroic warfare and justifying the violence because it makes men alternatively cheer and cry
It's a pro-war movie disguised as an anti-war movie, with the violence and the grittiness, and was certainly groundbreaking in that regard for later films in the same vein. It's not that good of a movie though, pretty generic apart from the opening, with plot armour heroes and nonthreatening inept stormtrooper villains.
>>72029543
It's the same German, ya dingus
![ab94537557cfc03ca1b0b6f43b4396b0[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/r4el4HG.jpg "ab94537557cfc03ca1b0b6f43b4396b0[1].jpg")
>>72028023
I liked the sequel more
>>72029687
Makes my point even more then
>>72028023
Directed by a jew
>>72029465
This might be the most retarded thing I've ever read about SPR.
Fuck off, Retard.
>>72029834
It makes perfect sense.
Reiben came to respect Capt. Miller a lot more than Damon did.
If you don't think "earn this" is one of the shittiest, corniest lines of all time get the fuck out of my face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1aGH6NbbyE
>>72029687
>>72029741
No it isn't, this is very commonly believed. It fooled me too at first, but finding out they were different improved it for me desu
>>72030147
You realize a film can still be shit even though it's historically accurate, right?
![Danson[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yW3oAGe.jpg "Danson[1].jpg")
>>72028023
>>72030644
i laugh so hard every time this scene is playing
>>72029168
This so much.
>>72030283
>>72029741
>>72029687
It's the same German how did you folks miss this. His last word is "Upham!"
>>72029168
This is why The Thin Red Line is the better WWII movie.
how did he blow the tank up with a pistol?
>>72031547
critical hit
>>72031547
Rolled a 20 three times in a row.
>Earn... this...
;_;
>>72031547
Deus Ex Machina
>>72028023
the last hour
>>72032877
The final battle included?
>>72028131
This.
Also Oscar baiting shit:
>Tell me I was a good man
SS fighting like Keystone cops at the end
Except for the Omaha beach scene, this movie was ass.
>>72029868
No at the end Tom Hanks told Matt Damon to "earn this", then at the end the old Matt Damon breaks down and asks his wife if he's a good man and led a good life
I dont get why the kraut let Upham go after stabbing that kike with a knife; Upham could've shot him at the back
>>72028118
???
>>72031491
And yet SPR is the one that affected war veterans to the point of having a bunch of old man crying and leaving the theater
>send number of guys to rescue 1 dude and they get killed in the process so 1 dude's mom can be happy
Shit doesn't make sense to me that they are making other moms sad by letting their sons die so they can make 1 mom happy.
>>72029465
Nope he wears a 101st insignia on his jacket in the old man scene it's Ryan
>>72028023
Is this the only Vietnam War movie where Fortunate Son doesn't play?
>>72035498
Not sure if troll.
But no.
Flags of our fathers doesn't
If you want to see a war film that portrays how US troops ACTUALLY act, watch Platoon.
>>72028131
>>72033274
>tom hanks has plot armor
He fucking dies
>mfw people tell me they didn't like that scene where Miller gives up and just start shooting the tank with his pistol, becase it's stupid that a pistol destroys a tank
>Point out that it was the plane that destroyed the tank
>Uhm no, the plane just happened to arrive in that moment
>>72028023
No radio man.
>No tigers were in that location during that time (fictional ramelle)
>Tigers have no protection on the drivers viewport
>SS is using a shitty urban warfare tactic (Ost division could be capable of doing so, but no the main jewel of the reich)
>Church tower is intact (US and Germans would blew them away because of the risk of snipers)
Omaha is a cool scene, but historically the movie is shit.
>>72035808
ok this is a very reddit post i'm just saying
>>72029868
you are fucking moronic or trolling hard.
>>72035425
>having a bunch of old man crying and leaving the theater
I can think of a dozen similarly shitty movies that had the same effect.
The Deus Ex Machina ending
>>72036358
>Deus Ex Machina ending
Nah, the 101st were waiting for backup the entire time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDn7zW8jTzw
>>72028023
The generic, cliche'd writing.
>>72029543
The german soldier who killed the jew with a knife and the wehrmacht soldier they captured and set free ARE NOT the same fucking person
One is SS and the other is wehrmact. You're a fucking retard, if you actually just paused the film you can clearly see they don't look at all alike other than having shaved hair
>>72035878
Your life is very reddit
>>72028023
the rape scene was a little over the top. a lot of people walked out of the theater at that point. overall it's not worth the time.
>>72037983
Not nearly as bad as Army Dog.
>>72038102
you're comparing rape apples to rape oranges
>>72038102
Thanks for perpetuating that shit meme.
>>72038204
Memes are fun.
>>72038204
my dog had to leave the room during that scene
>>72037983
Am I suffering from Mandela Effect? When was there a rape scene?
>>72038296
Sure, they're fun, but also some of them are really stupid and just not funny.
>20 Ameican soldiers miles from supply lines holding off a Waffen SS Panzer Company
>>72038437
Whatever nerd, I like what people do with Army Dog.
>>72028023
The only soldier left is me. ;_;
>>72028045
Came here to post this. One white devil is too many in a movie
>>72028023
The Movie has aged for me a little bit but there are a few scenes that still make the movie look great.
>>72029168
>>72029274
Actually, I got this impression from the movie also. What other conclusion are we, the audience, supposed to draw from the Nazi violating his "parole" and knifing the proudly Jewish soldier to death?
>>72038310
rewatch it and don't look at your cellphone the entire time
>>72037269
What? Seriously?
>>72038640
When is it though?
>>72038734
During Omaha Beach.
>>72038296
Me on the right.
>>72038915
Don't joke like that pls.
>>72038967
Sorry. I'll never do it again.
not enough black people
>>72030147
>Feeling sorry for the Czech draftees
Fuck that. Death to cowards.
>>72039015
Thanks.
>>72039081
She has a bf niggur
>>72038640
53 minute mark if you're watching the director's cut.
>>72039081
Me behind the plebputer
>>72039092
So?
>>72039134
Stop lying, liar.
>>72031547
.45 ACP stronk
>>72039092
Can confirm
>>72039152
But I'm not? Here's me at comic con :3
Here's a flaw for you: this woman has not done nudes and most likely will not ever do nudes while her body is in its prime
>>72039237
>>72039152
>>72039081
>>72038967
>>72029543
It was to show that even a peaceful man can be broken by the pain that war causes. That you call it a "cheer moment" is your personal interpretation and you wouldn't be alone in it, but I would say anyone thinking that needs to pay more attention. At the beginning of the movie we're shown prisoners being executed by Allied soldiers and it's a sobering, grim kind of moment. We're mean to judge them somewhat.
Upham's moment brings it full circle; we see the transformation of this person, not into a "real man/soldier", but into the morally grey savage that more experienced soldiers are depicted as.
superior
>>72040185
This. I truly wish I could have my memory wiped just so I could watch this for the first time again.
Only thing I didn't like was the concentration camp scene which wasn't in the book, and brought that whole episode down for no real reason
>>72039758
No she likely won't.But she is perfect die in a hole somewhere.
>>72035972
if this is the best complaint you can muster against the film then you have failed as a viewer.
>>72028023
He got shot in the gut and didnt die
>>72035252
In the middle of a critical invasion no commander worth their salt would risk a squad of highly trained rangers to find and rescue one low ranking grunt. They weren't even going to use him as a propaganda piece either it was literally only because the general who ordered the mission felt bad for Mrs Ryan.
>>72034822
He saw that he was no threat and despised him for it. He looked down on Upham and figured he wasn't even worth shooting.
>>72042854
>They weren't even going to use him as a propaganda piece either
What do you mean? He was literally going to be used for propaganda. Most likely it would've hit the news that all her sons were dead.
>Steven Spielberg's 1998 exercise in Oscar-mongering is a compilation of effects and impressions from all the war movies he's ever seen, decked out with precise instructions about what to think in Robert Rodat's script and how to feel in John Williams's hokey music. There's something here for everybody—war is hell (Sam Fuller), war is father figures (Oliver Stone), war is absurd (David Lean, Stanley Kubrick), war is necessary (John Ford), war is surreal (Francis Coppola), war is exciting (Robert Aldrich), war is upsetting (all of the preceding and Lewis Milestone), war is uplifting (ditto)—and nothing that suggests an independent vision, unless you count seeing more limbs blown off than usual (the visceral opening sequence, showing Omaha Beach on June 6, 1944) or someone getting graphically shot underwater. The story is about a squad trying to find and send home a private whose three older brothers have already been killed in World War II; it's a mission ordered by General George C. Marshall (backed by the authority of Abraham Lincoln, who's backed in turn by Spielberg) and executed by Tom Hanks, a captain named John instead of Joe. It has a few pretty good action moments (including a climax straight out of the Indiana Jones trilogy), a lot of spilled guts, a few moments of drama that don't seem phony or hollow, some fairly strained period ambience, and a bit of sentimental morphing that reminds me of Forrest Gump; it also lasts the better part of three hours. With Tom Sizemore, Matt Damon, Edward Burns, Jeremy Davies, Vin Diesel, Adam Goldberg, and Barry Pepper. R.
>>72042911
You can't possible know that in the context of the movie. All the movie shows is the general who ordered the mission doing so because he sympathised for Mrs Ryan and when the squad asks why they're looking for Ryan, Miller answering that it's so that Mrs Ryan doesn't lose all of her sons.
In terms of realpolitik this would probably occur but not once is it suggested throughout the film.
>>72042968
Just saying there'd be reasons for people to order a mission such as that, wether they explicitly say it in the movie or not is irrelevant to me desu.
I think a lot of things like that are done with people in command knowing the subtext but outwardly saying it's for this other reason instead.
Kind of like when a general knows deep down they're invading some country for a specific resource but gives a heartwarming speech about democracy and such to an army who inwardly know it's for that resource. But no one will say it out loud.
>>72028023
anti-tank sidearms
>>72029492
Because Arnie ain't a manchild.
>>72043095
I would agree with you in any other circumstance, but there's literally no other indication in the film that the general has ulterior motives for issuing this mission.
It's a real shame too, actually, as it would have made a great tragedy out of Miller and his squad's sacrifice if they genuinely thought they were doing this to help Ryan and his mother and it turned out it was just to use Ryan as the subject for a feel good story in the papers.
>>72028023
Patriotic shite
>>72043167
Yeah, movie could've been a lot better, but it surely would've been less successful. It was meant to tug on murrican feels, so you couldn't have shit against murrica.
At the end of the day, most directors are jews in all senses of the word, and movies are a business.
>>72043123
So you dont like when he shoots at the tank and the plane drops the bomb at the same moment?
>>72043399
two explosives hitting the same tank at the same time stretches credulity
>>72043123
those came way later in the war. immersion ruined.
>>72043167
You know it is clearly said in the movie that it's a "public relations mission" which pretty much means propaganda when it comes to war.
>>72043625
>Captain Miller: You and I are taking a squad over to Neuville on a public relations mission.
>Sergeant Horvath: What, you leading a squad?
>Captain Miller: Some private in the 101st lost three brothers and he's got a ticket home.
>Private Jackson: Sir... I have an opinion on this matter.
>Captain Miller: Well, by all means, share it with the squad.
>Private Jackson: Well, from my way of thinking, sir, this entire mission is a serious misallocation of valuable military resources.
>Captain Miller: Yeah. Go on.
This.
They aknowledge its a shit propaganda mission many times in the movie and everyone complains even after meeting Ryan.
It lost best picture to Shakespeare in Love. That's a pretty ww2 sized flaw.
>>72043399
The plane isn't equipped to drop bombs.
>>72043123
that was an experimental gun
its explained in the Expanded Universe.
>>72029259
>I have no idea how to respond to this
Well, grow a brain or some balls and have a go
