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Essos Edition

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>>71938490
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Azor Robert
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Azor Dayne
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Why are they jewing us out of a season?
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Jonsa confirmed, GET HYPE

littlefinger dies
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>>71945472
Nice try imposter, but we all know Sophie lusts after that big CIA dick
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>>71945511
The producers told me, so my personal feelings don't factor into it.
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>>71945472
Well, if you say so Ms Turner.
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>>71945362
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>>71945585
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What would be the worst possible outcome for the series finale?
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Is there a better map than this in existence?
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>>71945672
yes
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>>71945645
>not gay
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>>71945645
the most likely one, jon and dany rule westeros and its happily ever after

cliche & gay
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>>71945511
She also lusted after Ramsay's
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>>71945645
Is he becoming a club kid?
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>>71945672
Yes, one that's not so fucking packed full of shit. It's like a scene from one of the Star Wars prequels

>so dense
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>>71945464
>>Dothraki are primarily horse archers
>Even in books only bone bows were mentioned.

Carl Drogo’s dragon bow is mentioned several times but the nature of the Dothraki (aggressive horse nomads) clearly implies bows would be their primary weapon, as it was for the Mongols and American Plains Indians.

>>Mongols
>Proofs please, because in show and in the book they don't have signs of mongols.
>Also, here is level of late antiquity nomads.

It’s a fantasy story, Dothraki are an fantasy analog of Earth’s Mongols and Indians, not a carbon copy.
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When will webmbro be back?
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>>71945645
Why do all of his friends look like Chernobyl babies?
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Essos is Besstos
http://klaradox.de/essos_jpg/ESSOS_by_Klaradox.jpg
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Why didn't Sansa go with the Hound?
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Yi Tish spin off when?
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>>71945645
is this a straight guy thing? I wouldnt know, I'm queer
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1st for Azor Tyrion
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The high sparrow is still alive. Prove me wrong.
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>>71945806
are you stupid or just lazy?
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>>71945796
Inbreeding
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>>71945861
Why can't it be both?
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>>71945838
Why does /got/ hate him?
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>>71945362
> there isn't a single Athenian or even Roman style republic in the whole world of ice and fire
> Certainly no representative republic
> either in the show or books

Is GRRM one of those "benevolent dictatorships are the best" retards?
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>>71945645
Realistic kind of worst? Like not "gendry comes back, stabs cersei the mad queen in the back and everyone cheers to credits."?

Worst realistic ending is probably Jon becoming the legitimate king of the seven kingdoms, azor ahai and riding a dragon into battle and his sword lighting up in flame against "the bad guys", defeating them with a small force left and then living happy ever after.
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>>71945918
Too many quips
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>>71945918
Because they think overt contrarianism sounds smart.
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>>71945818
She doesn't like being raped by people taller than her
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>>71945921
Is Volantis not a Roman style republic?
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>>71945852
He is alive in the hearts of all that spread the faith of the seven
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>>71945776
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>>71945956
No
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>>71945645
Does somebody need to tell them that only women do shit like this with their "friends"?
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>>71945921
>> there isn't a single Athenian or even Roman style republic in the whole world of ice and fire
>> Certainly no representative republic
>> either in the show or books

Braavos, Pentos and Volantis are all more or less republics, Volantis even holding full-on political campaigns.
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>>71945952
but they both knew he wouldn't hurt her.
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Reminder that Missandei is actually a faceless man
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>>71946085
Volantis is is the closest but us in no sense a republic. The others...a council of a few men does not constitute email republic outside of laymen circles
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>>71946085
>Braavos, Pentos and Volantis are all more or less republics
No they're not
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Aren't the unsullied going to get tucked by armored knights?
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>>71946202
As a general rule heavy cavalry gets stopped by disciplined professional infantry. There are exceptions but unmoving spear and shield walls have historically held against heavy cav
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If I wrote a novel set entirely in Yi Ti, then changed the names around before publishing it, could GRRM sue me?
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>>71946162
>Volantis is is the closest but us in no sense a republic. The others...a council of a few men does not constitute email republic outside of laymen circles

Neither Athens nor Rome would qualify "republics" as we understand them to be nowadays, in both (like the later Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth) political power was held by a minority of nobility / military / landowning class.

Even here in the U.S. political franchise was tightly limited to White male property owners.
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>>71946270
No

Then again I'm a laundromat cashier wiyh a smartphone not a lawyer
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>>71946265
doesn't even need the horses, big guys in full plate armour are impervious to cutting weapons
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Is stannis alive
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>>71945511
>CIA
>Big dick

No one but the Mead King of Ruddy Hall has a big dick HAR!
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>>71946333
no
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>>71946300
> i took intro world history and now think i know my shit

Are you going to make me go on the wiki of ice and fire and start quoting shit faggot?
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>>71946198
>>Braavos, Pentos and Volantis are all more or less republics
>No they're not

They're (as well as Qarth) as much "republics" as Rome or Athens ever were, as all elect their leaders.
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>>71946333
in the books

in my heart
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>>71946314
Spears aren't cutting weapons
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>>71946085

Volantis, Myr, possibly Lys, and probably Lorath are Roman style republics. Braavos is not-Venice style merchantile oligarchy, pentos is not Florence style merchantile oligarchy, And the Tyroshi are all problem hair people.
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This season felt too Disney to me. I wish gendry was the baby.
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>>71946376
>Are you going to make me go on the wiki of ice and fire and start quoting shit faggot?

Knock yourself out.
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>>71946378
They should bring that guy back. He was great. He should have been there in every Dany scene carefully explaining why everything she has ever done is wrong.
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>>71946270

Was wondering where all the asian people are
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>>71946421
>I wish gendry was the baby.

Literally what did you mean by this?
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>>71946378
They are governed by triumvirates in some cases, by elected kings in others and still in others by unknown nebulous groups.
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>>71945918
same reason people hate justin bieber instead of just entirely ignoring his existence;

because retards like him and pretend he's the bestest thing that ever happened to television.

That was in s1-3.
Now we have a new (and more valid) reason to hate him : he's wasting 30-40 minutes of airtime every season doing absolutely nothing.
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So, does Winter actually effect places like Qarth and Volantis or are they all just Florida? I can't picture any of those places with snow.
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cast patchface
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>>71946202
They can't even handle masked faggots
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What is Ayra's end game? Does she want to get back to Winterfell now that Jon rules the North or does she want to off Cersei?
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>>71946558
It doesn't even snow in Oldtown and rarely in Kings Landing. With White Walkers coming though its recorded that even the Rhoyne freezes off.
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>>71946592
She will join her rightful king and head west of Westeros, where every man can be a king, and every woman, a queen.
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>>71946592
She wants to kill cersei
Then be gendrys lady and live peaceful
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>>71946592
>teleports behind bad guy
>"pssh... nothing personnel"
repeat ad nauseam
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If the Unsullied are primarily used by rich nobleman as personal security details, why are they trained exclusively as infantrymen? In every situation they've encountered since they were introduced, the Unsullied were basically useless. They talk them up like an unstoppable force, but they always seem to suck at everything.
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>>71946592
I doubt even Gurm knows
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>>71946592

she's gonna kill melisandre, especially after melisandre is exiled off the north to meet Arya in the riverlands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAyCpREHf6k
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Septa Nutella of the Most Devout is blessing this thread
even though it's full of heartless people who enjoy her suffering or think she loves being tortured and raped
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>>71946650
How much does she weigh
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>"battle of bastards"
>first battle shown in its entirety
>turns out to be the worst battle in terms of realism by far
>Bolton's cavalry units lose to a non-unified and far less numerous force of cavalry
>literally show a shot where Snow's army is tactically defeated
>immediately cut to Snow killing 20 men because valerian steel apparently makes you immortal
>spear wall has Snow's army surrounded
>they don't even advance, just stand around until the knights of the vale show up
>ripped from the Tolkein's big book of plot conveniences
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>>71945776
dothraki are just huns&bulgars
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>>71946270
Why don't you come to him with the idea, set it up on Yi ti and share the profits? You'll probably make much more money.
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>>71946666
Quads speaks the truth
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>>71946461
>They are governed by triumvirates in some cases, by elected kings in others and still in others by unknown nebulous groups.

The point being that none are feudal heredity monarchies, making them essentially "republics" even though they preactive slavery and political franchise isn't available to all, just like Athens, Rome and the early U.S.A.
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Calling it, Jon and Sansa getting word that Margaery's been killed and Cersei rules King's Landing is gonna be what formally pits them against each other.

Sansa will want revenge for how shit Cersei treated her and for killing Margaery who was Sansa's friend.

Jon will wanna focus on the Walkers.
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>>71945918
He's an "ok" character that is so adored by the showfans that they cut/ruin everything else to make room for him.

Shows can only push so many characters they intend to be loved by the fans. So when fans like all the pleb ones, they make them perfect in every way, but at the same time they 'nerf' the good ones (books good) because they can't make them all perfect, that'd be boring.
So they make tyrion/dany/jon/brienne all perfect in every way, and they make stannis an incompetent retard, jaime a kinslayer for no reason at all, and so on. Not to say they would've made them good if it wasn't for tyrion&cie, but they kinda steal all the spotlight for the fans. Why write a bunch of scenes that show some of these (jaime, stannis, etc..) characters in a positive way, the same way that got so many book fans to love them? They already have so many characters that showfags love. So they use these for cheap shocking moments instead.
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>>71946664

>brown eyes
>blue eyes
>green eyes

omg bruhs

arya gone kill tyrion, jon, and daenerys
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>>71946666
SEPTA UNELLA LITERALLY CONFIRMED THE DEVIL

She 100% enjoy the rape and torture now you can't argue against that.
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>>71946644
>Then be gendrys lady and live peaceful

Does Arya have the power to legitimize Gendry?
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>>71946713
Jon will marry Cersei and Euron will give Sansa his big cock and then there will be a 4 kingdom alliance as the two great evils. Dany and the Night King.
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>>71946664
>she's gonna kill melisandre,

Melisandre isn't on her list.
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>>71946422
>Volantis is ruled by three triarchs, chosen by every freeborn landowner

Not even elected by a large council of patricians. No similarity to Rome or Athens.

>The ruler of the city is the Sealord, who lives in the Sealord's Palace in the northeast of the city. Instead of hereditary succession, the Sealord is chosen by Braavosi magisters and keyholders through a convoluted process,[2] and he serves for life. The selection of his successor can be highly contested and can resort to violence.
Braavos doesn't even have a dedicated election process. The "elected" king is chosen by might for all we know.

>Pentos is a city where wealth equals power, ruled over by a prince with a council of magisters. The prince has a mostly ceremonial function while the council of rich magisters rule. The prince is chosen from the forty families, and presides chiefly over balls and feasts.

This is the closest. Description indicates that magisters buy their "vote" as do the prince. It's just a merchant government with republican tendencies.
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>>71946774
>Jon will marry Cersei

CIA will marry Jon
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>look at the catalog
>can't find /got/
>"is it over" "is it finally fucking over"
>"can't be"
>look at the catalog again
>first fucking thread

so, now that the dust has settled, we can all confirm arya vs mountain, right? i mean, they are pretty evenly matched now.
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When were wheelchairs invented IRL? It seems like a stupidly simple concept. I would think making a specialized saddle to allow Bran to horseback ride without the use of his legs would be way more complex and intricate than putting wheels on a chair. Why couldn't Tyrion think of that? They have them in Dorne, but that wheel chair was dumb as shit. It should take all of about 15 seconds to realize it would be more effective to make the rear wheels big enough for the user to reach.
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>>71946774
But won't the Night King's dick explode on contact with an inbred fire resistant lizard woman?
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>>71946708
re·pub·lic
rəˈpəblik/
noun
a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.
archaic
a group with a certain equality between its members.
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>>71946813
Arya is immune to physical damage and can teleport. In what universe is her vs a zombie a fair fight?
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>>71945645
Dany surviving and ruling Westeros.

Also, that nigga gay.
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>>71946765
Are you trying to say devil would enjoy being raped?
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What did they mean by this?
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>>71946817
>wheelchair on natural terrain
not possible
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>>71946016
Women and gay men.
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>>71946890
What if you gave it mountain bike wheels?
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>>71946565
>pat
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>>71946877
I imagine it would really suck to be Jon with the amount of knowledge that we have. His marriage prospects are limited to a cousin whom he regarded as his full sister, another one that he currently regards as his full sister/family member and a conqueror with a record of taking lovers who also happens to be his aunt.
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>>71946931
Did he actually have booze in that? Rich Evans seemed to want to take it away from him at the end when he was visibly in a blackout state.
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>>71946807
> Volantis is ruled by three triarchs, chosen by every freeborn landowner

Just like Athens, Rome and the early U.S. "republics".

> the Sealord is chosen by Braavosi magisters and keyholders through a convoluted process

Just like Athens, Rome and the early U.S. "republics".

>Braavos doesn't even have a dedicated election process. The "elected" king is chosen by might for all we know.

It’s implied that Braavos has a form of republic, they are descended from former slaves after all and wouldn’t accept an absolute monarchy.

>>Pentos is a city where wealth equals power, ruled over by a prince with a council of magisters.

Just like Athens, Rome and the early U.S. "republics".
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>>71946713
>GoT pitting 'good' rootable characters against each others

You don't get how this show works.
Good characters always like other good characters and hate the evil ones.

See :
Dany likes Tyrion for no reason at all

Dany somehow hates Euron and team up with someone to kill him for reasons that basically just make him Khal Drogo Naharis.

Jon and Davos are bestest buddies for no reason at all. If what Davos really wanted was someone to lead the fight against the WW, he should've joined with Aliser. Aliser had support; Jon didn't (you know, he got killed for that).
But Aliser is a 'villain' and Davos is a good guy, can't team up together.

That's probably why Jon exiled Melisandre too. Can't kill her, because that taints his 'goodness' (killing the person who rez'ed you up) but he can't team up with her either because she burned shireen so she's a villain.

There's literally not a single occurence of a bad person teaming up with a good one in GoT (Unless it was a scheme for a future betrayal) or good people hating each others.
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Reminder that Bran Stark is a reincarnating character - he whispered "burn them all" to Aerys in reference to the others. Bran is also Bran the Builder who built the wall, the citadel, Storm's End, and winterfell about 2000 years ago before the events of GOT.

Bran was born again for the purpose of defeating the others, just like he was there when the First men defeated them many years ago.
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>>71946836
>re·pub·lic
>rəˈpəblik/
>archaic
>a group with a certain equality between its members.

And it's the archaic definition we're talking about here, as it was Athens, Rome and the early U.S.
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>>71946813
>arya vs mountain, right? i mean, they are pretty evenly matched now.

>mountain cut her in 10 bodyparts with his greatsword, and crush her skull against the wall
>arya then triplejumpstab him in the neck and kill him, then fly away.
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>>71946969
He's also extremely attractive.
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>>71946877
except sansa's going to get cucked by daenary
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>>71945918
Does anyone remember the Peter Dinklage poster that used to be on /got/ and start shit with Marcus when the Jonautist wasn't around? I wonder what happened to him.

>“Look at me!” he would shout as he ran laughing through the halls of the circus. “Look at me, god of tits and wine!,” or “Look at me, kuh kuh kuh!,” or “Look at me, look at me, I am guilty of being a dwarf!” The bold little man with wild black hair and laughing eyes was a man grown now, one-and-forty, and still he played his games. "Look at me, I’m an actor!", Stephen thought sadly. Oh, Peter, Peter, dear sweet child, do you know what you are doing?”
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How did sansa treat Jon in the books?
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>>71946952
>Just like Athens, Rome and the early U.S. "republics".
You're wrong every single time you used this.


The implication on braavos is a matter of perception not an established fact.
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>>71947018
No he isn't.
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>>71947039
She didn't associate with him at all (bad or good), much like the show.

Jon and Arya were closer in the books.
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>>71947063
Yes he is.
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>>71947039

Like he wasn't there. I don't remember them having a single exchange of words.
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>>71947000
In what way is an elected king equal to the people that elected him? In rome and Athens members of the senate were equal before the law. That's what that refers to. You havre no reason to believe that the same holds true for the fictitious "republics"
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>>71947089
Maybe a little.
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>>71947107
No, a whole lot.
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>>71947039
She doesn't even think of him as a real brother, just a "half-brother" and seems distant. Probably because Cat knew Jon was going to try and steal Winterfell from her kids.
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>>71947039
They didn't interact that much- that much is clear. Sansa taught him to talk to girls and when everyone mentioned anything about him she referred to him as her bastard/half brother.
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Why don't the Iron Born have cutlasses? Or at the very least, something that would lend itself well to close quarters fighting on ships?
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>>71946965
The Jon Davos thing I excuse cause Davos knows Jon is the only other leader besides Stannis who takes the Walker threat seriously and knows the Wildlings would be useful fighting them than joining the Night King's army.

Alliser doesn't care about the threat and isn't willing to forgive the Wildlings and work alongside them. He may have let them through the gates, but that's cause he's following orders and at that point didn't have enough support to disobey Jon or turn the whole Watch against him.
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>>71947006
>cue music
peeweweweweweeeeeeww din din din pweweweweee din din din
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>>71947018
Extremely gay
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Why did they change Viserion from White with Gold trim to all gold? It looks like shit.
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>>71947020
Betrayal for love anon. Dany's gonna get cucked
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>>71947106
WIKIAUTISM AHEAD

>Volantis is ruled by three triarchs, chosen by every freeborn landowner. They are chosen from amongst the noble families who can prove unbroken descent from old Valyria, and will serve until the first day of the new year.

>The Old Blood refers to some of the population in Volantis, noble families who can prove unbroken descent from old Valyria itself. Only those of the Old Blood are allowed to live within the Black Walls of eastern Volantis, and only they can invite slaves, freedmen, or foreigners to enter. Freeborn Volantenes with enough property can vote. There are precious few voters on the western side of Volantis, over the river.

That sounds like a system where all landowning freedmen are allowed to vote and choose their next rulers. Which sounds kind of like a republic.
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>>71947240
confiremed
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I'm the fat one, the call me George Martin. I should be writing books, but I'm always just fartin'
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>>71947240
>Jon engaged to Dany
>Arya knows the only way for her and Jon to be together would be is she was a targaryen herself
>puts on targaryen face
>cucks Jon out of Dany
It fits.
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>>71947172

a bunch of them use axes and daggers, which are good for boarding and fighting on ship
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>>71946969
>he whispered "burn them all" to Aerys in reference to the others

no

>Bran is also Bran the Builder who built the wall, the citadel, Storm's End, and winterfell about 2000 years ago before the events of GOT.

yes
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>>71945645

The Night King doesn't win and Bran doesn't have to restart the world
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>>71947384
Yes, but is he beautiful?
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>>71947408
all i know is he is bran the builder and bran the rebuilder
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>>71947050
>>Just like Athens, Rome and the early U.S. "republics".
>You're wrong every single time you used this.

Nonsense, you’re demanding a modern standard of a republic that didn’t even exist here on Earth until modern times, Mississippi for example, didn’t ratify the 19th Amendment until 1984.

From what we’ve been shown of Planetos, it’s FAR more egalitarian then Earth ever was.
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>>71946932
The sex and marriage would be awkward, but really fulfilling.

Get with Sansa, a proper highborn lady that he never thought he could or would get. Would be a good dutiful wife and mother to his kids and be fine with him naming them after Robb, Ned, etc since that's what she wants to do too.

Get with Arya, that's extra awkward since she was the closest to him, but she has that unladylike quality that he also likes.

Get with Dany, less awkward since they didn't grow up together, more awkward cause they're more related to each other. Tough in her own way, a conqueror, outspoken, good heart but can be crazy a lot.
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How many houses of the Iron Islands support Yara?

How many support Euron? If Yara managed to take all of their ships, she has a significant level of support there.
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>>71947454
Then you are useless. Get the fuck out.
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>>71947533
sorry..
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>>71947522
As many as the plot required for her to somehow steal the fleet without being able to win the kingsmoot :^)
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>>71945362
>>71945585
The scale of these maps makes no sense, the statue at Braavos seems taller than most mountains
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hush now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0xrS1Ma5WU
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>>71947522
She didn't take all their ships.

She took 100 of their best ships. But the Iron fleet is much larger than just 100 ships
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good tier: r'hllor
ok tier: old gods
shit tier: seven
debate me
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How did cat treat Jon?
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/Highgarden/ remembers
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>>71947579
Why didn't Euron immediately give chase to murder Yara's skeleton-crewed fleet with his superior forces?

Why did any of the ironborn continue to follow Euron after Yara stole his fleet and his solution was to build more?
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>>71947652

such a forgettable character

glad she's dead
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>>71947652

More like scorchfu
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>>71947627
Is the three eye raven an old god
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>>71947650
Like he didn't exist, until he directly spoke to her and she told him that he should have been the one to fall and get crippled. She resented him and his being raised in Winterfell until her dying breath.
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>>71947563
i like this theme song better for arya

https://youtu.be/3K_ksifTXMs?t=3m10s
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>>71947652
She wasn't aging well anyway.
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>>71947627
Where does the drowned god fit in?
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thank you, uncle benjen
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>>71947652
you are waifu a dead shit

go spam her elsewhere
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>>71947474
Would the Northern lords even follow Jon if he marries his sisters?
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>>71947743
you're welcome
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>>71947740
between old gods and seven
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>>71947740
>Implying Tier
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Best actor is who?
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Just read that Jon Con chapter where he reminisces on meeting Rheagar.... Is he gay? Normally I'm all for deep male bonds not being homosexual but Jon Con might be a different story
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>The Reynes had prospered greatly under Tytos's misrule. Both Roger and Ser Reynard extracted large amounts of gold from Tytos. After the War of the Ninepenny Kings, Tytos's son and heir, Ser Tywin Lannister, demanded repayment of the gold that was lent out, but Roger reportedly laughed and told his vassals to do nothing. This eventually led Tywin to summon the Reynes and the Tarbecks to answer for their crimes. They chose defiance instead and with it, started the Reyne-Tarbeck rebellion against their Lannister overlords.

Tarbeck Hall was the first to feel Tywin's wroth and House Tarbeck was exterminated, including Ellyn. After an unsuccessful battle against the Lannister host led by Tywin, Ser Reynard and the wounded Lord Roger took refuge in the mines underneath Castamere. Reynard, once his folk were safe, offered terms to Tywin. Instead Tywin ordered the sealing of Castamere's entrances and the diverting of nearby water into the mine, causing the deaths of all within.

B A S E D
A
S
E
D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9SIS6wBxpI
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>>71947809
Based NCW
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>>71947809
Stephen Dillane
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why is that every time arya does anything to survive, they use this melancholic theme to signify she is undertaking some herculean task

>she is nobility
>she is little girl

she is fucking murderer ffs! she killed

like a million people on her way to Braavos
the actress (yes, you dumb fucks, arya=waif)
etc etc
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>>71947817
Yep he's gay. He even goes why Elia couldn't live up to the prince rant later.
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>>71947809
God Actor
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>>71947832
Hes been pretty shit the last few seasons
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>>71947817
JonCon is literally in love with his memory of Rhaegar.

He's attempting to seat a boy he knows somewhere deep down isn't actually his son as a way to get over his guilt and shame over Rhaegar's death.
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>>71947824
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>>71947822
This is why I hated world of ice and fire, it's shitty fanfic shit like this. The mystery and subtle hints about the Reynes was better world building. Same with Duskendales defience and the Blackfyre rebellions.
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>>71947871
To be fair, they've given him literal shit to work with.
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>>71947661
Cause by virtue of having their best ships, Yara's fleet would be faster and they wouldn't be able to catch up.

And again, Yara didn't steal his fleet, she stole only 100 of the fleet's ships. Euron and the Iron born have more, they're just gonna build more too
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>The 13 refuse Dany and her barbaric horde entrance to Qarth because she doesn't even agree to show them her dragons (what efforts would it take?)
>She threatens to burn and destroy their city after she gains power

How can normies think she's not the villain?
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>>71947755
I think you mean cousins.

And yes.
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Since the show is pandering to normies Jon and arya won't happen because pedo. Same with salsa its too weird because sister.

Its gonna be Jon and danaerys
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>>71947976
And aunt/nephew won't be weird?
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>>71947103
that's emilia and she is lovely unlike bitch faced dany.
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>>71947976
Jon and Arya won't happen because it's fucking stupid.

Same with Jon/Sansa and Jon/Dany.

There is only one true waifu for Jon.
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>>71948036
A dead woman?
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>>71948036
>There is only one true waifu for Jon.
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>>71948048
Val isn't dead, dumb summer islander.
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>>71948036
Euron?
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>>71948074
You posted the seastar.
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>>71947464
This is dumb and wrong. Westeros is said to be as large as South America.
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>>71948070
Why did you post an ugly shitskin for pure nordic qt Val?
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What was worse? Euron or the beautiful and deadly sandsnakes?
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don't 4get
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>>71947944
>Cause by virtue of having their best ships, Yara's fleet would be faster and they wouldn't be able to catch up.
I would think properly crewed ships would be much faster than skeleton-crewed "best" ships, especially since a lot of ironborn ships use slave oarmen.

Besides that, were all the guards in on it as well? Were there any guards? I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the fact that the 100 fastest ships were left alone or unattended with enough supplies for a months-long journey to Meereen.
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>>71947809
Nicest person.
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>>71948087
No I'm pretty sure it's a Val fanart.
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>>71948070
>>71948074
>>71948108
Val's been cut from the show.

bow down to Jonarya, Jonsa or Jonaerys
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>>71947652
All hail Lady Stonesmirk
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>>71948135
Its Shiera Seastar you fucking mong.
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>>71948127
>The Deeper Dorne pt 5 is an hour-long video of Preston slowly hanging himself.
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>>71948161
She's gonna show up next season. There's been plenty of characters who have been shown later then in the books, and not shown in the "crowd".

>>71948175
I got that picture from google images when I searched Val fanart.
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>>71948070
İf you really want Val to be in the show, Viva would be the better choice
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>>71948131
>I would think properly crewed ships would be much faster than skeleton-crewed "best" ships, especially since a lot of ironborn ships use slave oarmen.

How do you know they're "skeleton" crewed?

> I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the fact that the 100 fastest ships were left alone or unattended with enough supplies for a months-long journey to Meereen.

Power of the plot
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>>71947750
>spam
I want summer to leave
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>>71948205
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Shiera_Seastar

Why the fuck would a wildling be dressed in silken robes with fucking jewels. Fuck off back to where you came from.
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>>71946671
Sit her on my face and I'll tell you
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Why is he posing like that?
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>>71948215
>>71948070
Why do you have such terrible taste

Stop posting ugly brown eyed meds as Val
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>>71947039
she didn't care about him at all, and even insulted him for no reason at all when she was angry (at arya, not even at him)

Then after she went through some shit she thinks of him and how it'd be good to be with him again.

Like the worthless cunt she is.
>oh everything is nice and perfect I don't need some bastard half brother around me
>oh now that I'm all alone I would like you, would you like me too?

sansa is fucking toxic.
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>>71948205
>She's gonna show up next season.

No, she really won't.

Not enough time to do a romance and marrying Val gets Jon nothing that he doesn't already have or would be at risk of losing when R+L=J comes out
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>>71948205
>from google images
Well google images is wrong and you're a a retard faggot for not looking and admitting you are wrong.
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>>71948243
that woman you posted can't act. Viva however is really good.
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>>71948246
>marrying Val gets Jon nothing

It's his way of truly uniting the north and the wildlings. Val is the only wildling that the Westrosi adore and think of as princess.

>>71948270
Plenty of women can act, but that spic doesn't fit the look. Do you want another Cersei/Dany """"""blonde"""""" """""""""most beautiful woman in the world"""""""""?
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>>71948168
Nutella failed to protect her queen. She should seppuku
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>>71948307
Lena Headey is very attractive. I don't like all those air quotes anon.
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>>71948307
>It's his way of truly uniting the north and the wildlings. Val is the only wildling that the Westrosi adore and think of as princess.

He could do that by marrying any of the remaining OC umber girls or Karstark girls to a Wildling

And that gets the Wildlings nothing, they aren't one tribe, marrying Val does nothing for them.
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>>71948242
because he is so lovely
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>>71948348
>Lena Headey is very attractive

True, but not with a blonde wig, and certainly doesn't have the Cersei look.

>>71948352
Marrying Val gives Jon the best woman in the north, that's enough for him.
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>>71947464
The description you gave in no way equates to what you claimed they did on any but the most rudimentary levels
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>>71947691
I really began to like Jon after that scene, when Robb knows they spoke, and asks how his mother treated him.

Jon, like a total bro, lies for Robb's sake.

I wish we had more Jon and Robb interaction. The banter alone could have been God Tier.
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>>71948392
>Marrying Val gives Jon the best woman in the north, that's enough for him.

No, it's not. You can't talk politics then throw politics aside.

Marrying a wildling could even hurt his image. He's already let the Wildling through and just got the North's backing after they failed to show up, the best way to get solidify the North is to marry a Northern girl from South of the Wall.
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>>71947822
I didn't know Tywin was a knight.
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>>71947244
So there is no equality between the two groups, the electors and elected, furthermore no equality implied between those elected and the pool they came from.
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>>71945362
With all that land why didnt Dani secure Essos then 30 years later steamroll Westeros. She has lost and will lose all her gains in Essos. No way will Meereen remain in her hands. What a stupid ruler. I hope the Kraken eats one of her dragons.
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screencap dis

Jon will marry a nubian princess from the wildfolk

my sauce tell me that Obama himself have met with GRRM and d&D to arrange this

the reasons are pretty obvious ofc
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>>71948440
I don't really give a fuck about politics tbqh, but it's obvious to anyone who have read the books that Val and Jon are OTP and GURM is setting them up together.
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>>71948340
She will resurrect her sweet little queen.
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>>71948541
>nubian

The word you're looking for is "nubile".
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>>71948489
>So there is no equality between the two groups, the electors and elected
The electors and elected literally come from the same first class citizen pool, those with the blood of old Valyria. Second-class citizens, those who merely own land, are definitely allowed to vote, though they aren't the right race to get elected triarch.

>furthermore no equality implied between those elected and the pool they came from.
In every republic in history there have been discriminatory laws/cultural/social norms designed to protect the interests of one group at the expense of all others. Racism and classism aren't incompatible with the classification of 'republic', unless you want to ebinly claim that there were never any "true" republics?
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>>71948434
Catelyn, Jon, and Robb were all butchered pretty hard. I have no idea why they made all 3 so brainless on the show.
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>>71948548
Except she is a blue eyed walking corpse now. And she wants to murder Shireen...
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>>71948608
You just know Qybyrn isn't letting her die for good. He will turn her into a zombie-onahole for the mountain's turgid zombie-cock. A rotting, broken whore that is fed paste from tubes and only knows frequent violation that she eventually comes to crave.
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>True, but not with a blonde wig, and certainly doesn't have the Cersei look.
shit taste
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>>71948427
>The description you gave in no way equates to what you claimed they did on any but the most rudimentary levels

Rudimentary compared to what; the U.S. and Europe today?

Because what we've seen of Braavos, Pentos, Volantis and Qarth, show them to be MORE egalitarian then Earth governments were until the modern day.
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>>71948548
She's gonna die.

If they wanted to have Val, they could've had her at Hardhome, then shown her same character again in that scene this season where Jon tries to convince the freefolk to help him fight Ramsay.

But they didn't, she's gonna die in the books
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>>71948707
>And she wants to murder Shireen...

The child is sick. If they'll keep her around long enough she will infect them. Enjoy your stone AIDS.
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>>71948787
apologize to your future queen
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>>71948639
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what if the wildlings win
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>>71948851
Good posts, thanks senpai
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>>71948434
I didn't really give much of a fuck about Robb as a person until he said he intended to name Jon his heir.

On a second readthrough, fovusing on what things must be like from his perspective rather than Catelyn's, Robb is legitimately a total fucking bro and a pretty cool guy for the most part.

I hope that when Jon comes back in the books he gets more introspective and reminisces about him a bit, I'd like to know more about their relationship.
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>>71948838
How can this be queen?
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>>71948930
DELETE

THIS
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>>71945362
What the fuck is between all of that empty space in Essos? I get that the Free Cities are the most important places in the region, but do they really just own all of the land?
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