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What happened to the absolutely ruthless savage Gordon Ramse
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What happened to the absolutely ruthless savage Gordon Ramsey of the 90s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1X11aLACso

Kitchen Nightmares is nothing compared to this shit, is Ramsey a Psychopath?
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>>71938557

Gordon was only 31 here. I bet he had those wrinkles and lines as early as 18.
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Its a common known fact that Gordon is an asshole about food. Hes a cool guy and nice and can be funny, but he's like way too serious about food. Like for real there's no point to be serious in anything as he is with food. It's kinda annoying cause food isn't even that important
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You should see Marco Pierre White.
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He's softened over the years. He's more passive-aggressive in the recent Hell's Kitchens than the older ones where he can get really personally mean.
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>>71938636
Well, he is Scottish.
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>>71938801
i cant find any footage of him going mad

Ive heard he was worse than ramsey
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>>71938824
>Your daughter probably got cancer from eating this

Howd he get away with this?
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>>71938762
>food isn't even that important
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>>71938887
He doesn't go mad. He's a sociopath. It's what makes him get under peoples' skin so much.
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>>71938801
>>71938996
Source?
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once he got that tireman award he cooled off since he knew he achieved enough
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>>71939018
>ywn have Marco's soothing voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsQtphI4vjM
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>>71939018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7h3PPpK9s4
>doesn't shake the hand of the faggot
>calls the manlet "boy"
>doesn't shake the hands of the women

He's too based.
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>>71938931
>Eating tiny portions that focus on looks and "high class" qualities rather than just giving your body what it needs to functions isnt completely retarded

Just cause our bodies need food doesn't mean people need to be assholes about it or make it all fancy dance gay bullshit. Make a fucking stew or grill a damn steak or eat a bears raw heart. But don't bitch at me cause I didn't make a fucking creme brulee to where it makes your nipples hard.
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>>71939284
jesus christ Marco is fucking intense

I would be happy to let Ramsey scream at me but Marco is genuinely terrifying
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>>71939363
>But don't bitch at me cause I didn't make a fucking creme brulee to where it makes your nipples hard

fucking kek
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>>71939284
>Looks at the hot chick who thinks shes the shit
>"I know about you"

FUCKING BASED
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>>71939075
jesus

why did they even ask a couple of chucklefucks like that to interview him
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>>71939284
Reminds me about one of my German Chefs at a previous workplace.
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>>71938557
he got sick of shitting on good food hence why he mellowed out a bit
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>>71939284
https://youtu.be/7IIewV85ajk
>i didnt make ramsey, he cried himself
ouch
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>>71939734
>that pizza
>good food

Sure, if you like a doughy plate of grease.
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I don't know why anyone wanted to work with him when he was such a raving lunatic.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lnP4ApEOiU

Marco is 100 times scarier than ramsay
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>>71939812
you have no passion or drive if you dont understand why working for him would be a golden opportunity
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>>71939734
>"what happened to the warriors in Thermopylae?"
>"Nigga dey ded"
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>>71939971
I don't like being around loud, aggressive assholes. I would attack anyone who acted like that towards me.
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>>71940025
>I aint no bitch, chef
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>>71939363
It's called passion, Anon. Paintings are just wastes of time people look at when they could be reproducing, should Da Vinci have calmed down about them? Music is just something people listen to so they don't have to talk to each other, should Beethoven have not been such a prick about it? Books are just things we distract ourselves with to give the illusion we aren't ultimately pointless, should Nietzsche have just wrote stories about turtles for kids?

Ramsay loves food. He's passionate about it. If you don't give a shit then you don't give a shit, he's not mad at you, he gets mad at people who tell him they love food just as much as he does but then fuck it all up anyway. It's sorta like how you get mad when someone tells you they're a real TV buff followed by my favourite show is The Big Bang Theory, or when someone says they love video-games and have put at least 50 hours into Angry Birds, or when someone says they love old music and start talking about the Foo Fighters, or when someone says they love internet boards because of all of 9gags hot maymays, or whatever other gay shit you choose to waste your time on whilst criticising what gay shit some other nigger wastes his time on.
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>>71940044
Yeah I don't know what's supposed to reference.
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>>71939971
Sure, an abused single mom's beta son with heavy daddy issues.
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>>71940063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzBnFutegJE

This is you, dicksucker.
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>>71939284
Marcos autobiography is so fucking depressing
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>>71940113
I'm not going to watch that. If you have a point then let's hear it.
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>>71938557
this is GOAT Ramsey

>who's the donkey
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>>71940129
Was he fondled by his uncle? Could you greentext the essentials, please.
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>>71940059
Im sure that anon is passionate about videogames or some other beta hobby

they dont know what it is to be a real man
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>>71940138
your a massive faggot
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>>71940113
>people argue in the comment section over a scripted TV drama
Why people are so gullible.
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>>71940150
>"STANDING THERE LIKE SOME FAGGOT"
>"OI SPIC"

I miss the 90s man
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>>71940171
I'm a dicksucker and a massive faggot because I don't like being around loud, aggressive assholes? Why? And why does this make you so butthurt?
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>>71940165
What's so "alpha" about eating food?
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>>71940197
my butt is far from hurt but you can make it that way big boy
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>>71940197
wtf are you doing? Are you retarded?
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>>71940155
>mum died of brain haemmorhage when he was six
>raised by strict father who instilled him with discipline
>never knew how to relate to woman properly or form relationships with them due to having no female figure in his life
>literally never cared about anything except winning Michelin stars
>once he won them he realised he didn't even care about that
>almost worked himself to death in the process
>quits being a chef to be happy
>still isn't happy
>constantly losing friends because of arguments
>every one just stereotypes him as "le ebin bad boy chef"
>at the end of the book he says something along the lines of "I might have grown up to be a bad boy but when my mum was still alive i was a good boy because i was with the one woman who meant everything to me"
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>>71940197
You're a dicksucker and a massive faggot for not understanding why a man would get obsessive over a craft and considering it a complete waste of time whilst on 4chan.
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>>71940197
It's nothing to do with that you dumbfuck it's that you said
>I would attack anyone who acted like that towards me

You wouldn't do fucking shit if Ramsay was in your face you little scrawny cunt.
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>>71940197
watch the step
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>>71940218
>he doesnt realise that being a man and a great cook is the most alpha shit you can become

how are you this sheltered
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>>71940220
>>71940226
Confirmed butthurt. No idea why, though.

>>71940231
Where did I indicate in any way that I don't understand why a man would get obsessive over a craft? I just said I don't like loud, aggressive assholes.

>>71940240
But I would, and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>71940284
What step?
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>>71940229
Thanks, senpai.
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>>71940197
this is you
>>71940113
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>>71940332
Again, not watching it. If you have a point then let's hear it.
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>>71940303
listen you chip idiot
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>>71938762
>Like for real there's no point to be serious in anything as he is with food
It's because he used to be a footballer and had to quit because of an injury. Retired athletes don't lose their competitive streak and have to become autistically competitive over something else instead.
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>>71940303
2/10 troll
nice retard rage
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>>71940341
What are you talking about?
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>>71940369
Where did I troll? Where did I express rage?
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>>71940303
But the whole reason he's loud and aggressive is because he's obsessive. He's only this way about food because it's his passion. If you went to Mozart with your symphonies telling him you loved music like he did (and people did) and they were shit he'd tell you they were shit and to fuck off (and he did), and this is much the same. What are you passionate about, Anon?
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>>71940400
I don't care why someone is loud and aggressive.

>What are you passionate about, Anon?
Not relevant.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XDW6xo5scU
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>>71940416
PASSIONLESS MAN DETECTED
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>>71940448
Where did I say I'm passionless? How is this even relevant to what we're talking about?
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>>71938762
>food isn't even that important
b-but eating
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>>71940469
I think you gave a passion for bad argument technique. Stop asking so many questions -- most of them have been answered you just chose to ignore the answer.
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>>71938762
>food isnt even important
NIGGA, DO YOU BREATH?
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>>71940492
How have I argued in a bad way?

>Stop asking so many questions -- most of them have been answered you just chose to ignore the answer.
Where have either of those questions been answered?
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>>71939284
he's a scary guy
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>>71940416
>Not relevant
Very relevant.

For example if you're passionate about music and someone who claimed to be a musician and an aficionado played you some /mu/core existential shoefunk of an ice-block melting sped up that lasted for ten minutes (not sure if it lasted for ten minutes or if it was longer, but it's an actual thing) and told you it was not only better than all of your music but also better than all the music of every musician you loved, I'd assume you'd say more than just, "Well that's your opinion bruh," to that guy.

As a side-note, if you don't like people being loud and aggressive what the fuck are doing here?
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>>71940059
Anon here im passionate about fucking my wife and continuing my alpha genes. While you all make my food and TV for my enjoyment. Your passions are merely just things to entertain my life.
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>>71940469
Diffrewnt Anon here. I'd argue being a man requires very few thing, but i'd say those tihngs are hard to achive/maintain.

1) Be able to provide a stable life for yourself and any you share to share it with
2) Should you choose a hobby or as other anons put it passion, exel in this field, accept no second best. If man did the world would slowly stop and fall back into chaos.
3) The willingness to not die or martyr yourself for a belief but live for it. Struggle and claw your way through any challenge. Losers talk about trying their best winners do so or die trying.
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>>71940564
>Very relevant.
No.

>As a side-note, if you don't like people being loud and aggressive what the fuck are doing here?
Do you not understand the difference between a messageboard and real life?
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>>71939843
>its a bit racist innit
>pikey
jesus christ what a fag
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>>71939284
Let me guess, in the end the men smashed the women in this challenge?
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>>71940302
<Actually thinks it's alpha to do a woman's job

How can you be anymore cucked?
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>>71940564
>talking to a literal retard
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>>71940611
A woman's job is to cook for her husband you ignorant cunt

being a top chef is incredibly difficult, stressful and competitive
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>>71940611
Are you suggesting cooking is a woman's job? In which case you're the fucking cuck. Men should cook. Women should clean the dishes.
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>>71939284
>>71939843

fucking intense as hell
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>>71940569
>im passionate about fucking my wife
So are Tyrone and Jamal.

>>71940596
>I can deal with people being aggressive on the internet but I can't deal with people being aggressive in real life
That just means you're a weak faggot, which makes sense given you can't understand what passion even is.
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>>71940611
Millennials everyone
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>>71940627
How does not liking loud, aggressive assholes make me a literal retard?

>>71940661
>That just means you're a weak faggot
I'm a weak faggot for standing up for myself? How does that work?

>given you can't understand what passion even is
Where did I ever say anything of the sort?
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>>71940564

No need to talk to him, he's clearly just a clever troll or he really is that ignorant.

If he refuses to watch a simple fucking video, why won't you just refuse to argue with him? It was pointless from the get go.
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>>71940703
Honestly just leave the thread bro, if the only thing you're passionate about is shitposting on 4chan you aren't going to understand what the men are talking about here
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>>71940691
unless you were born before 82 you're a millennial too
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>>71940653
Men just need to fuck bitches and kill. Woman need to clean cook and north then die.>>71940661
Sorry bud my bitch is based and redpilled as fuck too bad you'll never have a based-fu
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>>71940711
How am I a troll or ignorant?

>>71940731
> you aren't going to understand what the men are talking about here
I'm not female, and what are you even talking about?

It's really strange how mad everyone is over this.
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>>71940748
I wasn't calling you female I was calling you a child

we're mad because you're just baiting people into responses like some kind of autistic faggot
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>>71940737
Nobody uses the word like that because it makes no sense like that. The term was conceived long before anyone knew what it would mean, and the difference between someone born in 1982 and someone born in the late 90s is substantial.
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Remember when he blinded that "chef" with a fork?
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>>71940744
>fuck bitches and kill

You do neither of these things so why are you even speaking
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>>71940703
>I'm a weak faggot for standing up for myself?
Standing up for yourself against a threat that doesn't exist in a situation you'll never be in for reasons you can't understand is very manly, Anon.

>Where did I ever say anything of the sort?
You didn't. That doesn't make it any less true. Bill Cosby said he wasn't a rapist, does that mean he isn't? You don't understand passion because you cannot comprehend why Ramsey gets loud and aggressive in the first place, you think it's just food it's no big deal, you have no idea why he drives himself to be the very best and to make the best food and why people who consider themselves his peers producing utter shite disgusts him to the point of rage.
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>>71940764
t. millenial
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>>71940762
I'm in my thirties.

>we're mad because you're just baiting people into responses like some kind of autistic faggot
How am I baiting anyone into responses?

>>71940781
>Standing up for yourself against a threat that doesn't exist in a situation you'll never be in for reasons you can't understand is very manly, Anon.
Yes it's possible I'll never be in that kind of situation, and I hopefully won't be since I don't want to have to fight someone and go to prison. What's your point?

>You don't understand passion because you cannot comprehend why Ramsey gets loud and aggressive in the first place
I don't care why he does it. It's not relevant. That doesn't mean I don't understand passion.

>>71940785
I'm not a millennial.
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>>71938557
>threatens people with losing their job
>calls them ball-less/ women for giving for not giving him shit back
what a moron
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>>71940831
>in thirties
>on 4chan
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>>71940831
>I don't care why he does it. It's not relevant. That doesn't mean I don't understand passion.

Passion is why he does it, Anon. You not understanding that means you don't understand passion.

This could not be any simpler by now.
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>>71940691
>>71940653
>>71940641
>These fags actually think cooking isnt for women and men should pursue a life of doing g something women have been bred to do for thousands of years

>Will likely start saying men need to start breastedding and giving birth because its "challemging" or "difficult"

>Suggests I'm a fuck because I don't want to flambé some chicken and chop up lemons and grow herbs and spices just to make a meal that wont fill me up as much as just making a steak

>Makes food for their women yet they're still alpha

>Makes food for their wives boyfriend to give them energy to fuck their wives but the boyfriend just makes a steak because alphas don't eat gay bitch food
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>>71940880
>He got so mad he started misspelling every second word
Sorry you found this so challemging, you fucking moron.
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>>71940880
>women have been bred to do for thousands of years
>still shit at it

you're contradicting yourself senpai
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>>71940770
>Implying I don't
Captcha: select all the food
>All gay bitch food in the shape of dicks on plates touching each other
The irony
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>>71940880
>Eating what women call 'food'

No, Anon. You ever notice how barbecue is the best way to cook shit? You ever notice how barbecuing is a man's job?

No-one said you had to feed the bitch.
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>>71940781

Yeah, it's not like Ramsay is shouting because it's fun. He's shouting because it's frustrating to see people who do not respect you as the head chef, or in any other profession with authority.

And kitchens have a really fucking tight schedule to produce quality food for people who have paid a big price for it.

Guess who gets called the clown when shit hits the fan? The one with the authority, ie. Ramsay.

And the passion adds to the stress when you know what to do and how to do it when others, who are supposed to be your extra hands are just jacking about.
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>>71940851
>Passion is why he does it, Anon.
I don't care.

>You not understanding that means you don't understand passion.
I didn't say I don't understand, I said I don't care.
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>>71940906
>Thinks women are capable of learning
Sorry senpai that not right
>>71940898
It's hard to type when I got your girls sweat dripping on my tablet my god man she riding this dick good she say she can't ride yours cuz it too small tho ;)
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>>71940938
Then what are you even fucking arguing about you apathetic piece of shit?
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>>71940915
Oh alright as long as the bithc ain't eating my b. you guys are too easy to bait. off to another thread
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>>71940604
I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me. I have yet to meet a woman in my life that can cook.
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>>71940969
No, what are YOU arguing about? All I said is that I don't like being around loud aggressive assholes.
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>>71941012
But the whole point is you never will be. As has been stated repeatedly in the thread Ramsey's only a loud and aggressive asshole when it comes to food and his kitchen. Outside of that he's a very calm and reasonable human being. But you think that if someone is loud and aggressive about one thing then they're an asshole in general, because you don't have a basic understanding of what drives him to be loud and aggressive in the first place, which is why you'll never in a situation where someone is being that loud and aggressive with you aside from if you're randomly targeted by muggers you dipshit.
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>>71939284
name of the blonde semen demon?
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>>71940831
>"in my thirties"

>posting on 4chan

>is having to have people under 25 explain to him what real passion is and how to be a man

mate I know this gets thrown around a lot but seriously kill yourself
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>>71941005
Agreed.

Although in their defence I've met quite a few that can bake. Don't know what is about working with women, sweets and an oven but I've known a lot that excel with it.
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>>71941012
No, what you said was, "I don't know why anyone wanted to work with one of the world's greatest chefs because he's a bit angry sometimes ;-;"
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>>71941105
abby clancey
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>>71941151
>Amy's Baking Company

You might be onto something there, Anon, the cake was supposedly good even if the rest was shit.
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>>71940564

I can relate so much to the example you gave. I record acoustic guitar and make my own songs and instrumentals and shit. It's not mozart, but it's not bad either. I shared it once on /mu/ and all the fags there told me how this was a bad kind of music, so irrelevant, that I was "going for a feeling, which is lame". All the while they showed me their """"compositions"""" of noise core computer generated trash, mostly recordings from movies with a shitty atmosphere sound in the background. Literrally memes in the audio format. Not one of them knows what it's like to learn an instrument, to write and arrange a song, to hope that the recording turns out good and so on.

Fuck /mu/, let them rot in their own shallowness.
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>>71941068
>But the whole point is you never will be.
Good.

>you don't have a basic understanding of what drives him to be loud and aggressive in the first place
No, I just don't care. I believe I've stated this many times now. What is so difficult about understanding it?

>>71941136
I don't need anyone to explain to me what passion is and how to be a man. What are you talking about? And why are you so upset?

>>71941156
Yes, I said that as well. What about it?
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>>71941182
She bought in all her cakes. Total fraud. There's a bunch of posts on facebook or something with her defending it claiming that walmart does something similar.

That aside, I think women can bake. As for why, I don't know.
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>>71941182
she revealed she lied about that to Gordon later on facebook
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>>71940229
Fuuuuck
>>71939284
This guy should have been in hannibal season 4
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>>71941198
Serious question

Are you autistic or something?
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>>71941182

It wasn't even baked there, it was ordered from a distant bakery shop. But I believe it's because sweets are more often made for parties and such, and women feel like they have to bake them so they learn the recipes fairly well.

>>71941198

Mate, you are starting to sound like a broken record now.
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>>71941198
>No, I just don't care
Which is exactly the point. We're just going in circles here because you have no comprehension of what is being said. The fact you don't care is the exact indicator of everything people have been telling you throughout this thread. If you don't understand that, then I'll just let you be a retard in peace.
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>>71941198
>What about it?
Jesus fucking Christ. Let's try this from a new angle. Work with me here, Anon.

Gordon Ramsey is one of the most critically acclaimed and celebrated chefs in the entire world. He was trained by Marco Pierre White, also one of the most critically acclaimed in the world, who is known as the chef who makes Ramsey look like a big soft kitten in comparison.

So, bearing this in mind, why do you think people would want to be trained by Gordon Ramsey?
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How does one become as ruthless and ruling as Marco Pierre White?
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>>71941279
What makes you think I'm autistic?

>>71941286
Because you keep saying the same things and my responses to them won't change.

>>71941309
The fact that I don't care why someone is being a loud, aggressive asshole doesn't mean I don't understand what passion is. That doesn't make any sense. Being passionate doesn't even necessitate being a loud, aggressive asshole.

>>71941336
>So, bearing this in mind, why do you think people would want to be trained by Gordon Ramsey?
I don't think it's a sufficient reason to put up with his behavior.
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>>71941390
Pure autism
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>>71941409
How am I autistic?
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>>71941068
>tee hee Chad only beats me up when I deserve it
Get cucked faggot.
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>>71940229
People like that should just kill themselves when they're young enough not to fuck anyone else's life up yet.
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>>71941386
have your mom die when you're a kid, be brought up by your asshole dad, be unable to find satisfaction in life, reach the peak of a profession to realize you don't care for it
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>>71941390
>Being passionate doesn't even necessitate being a loud, aggressive asshole.
Bullshit. You happy-go-lucky glass half full faggots never have been and never will be successful. The people who are successful, who achieve their dreams, are the people who see the glass and immediately ask, "Why the fuck is that glass not full yet?"

>I don't think it's a sufficient reason to put up with his behavior.
You don't think that being one of the best in the world at the thing you love is sufficient reason to put up with a man saying words loudly, and you think you understand passion? Passion is going to any length to achieve a goal, it's living like a hobo whilst working three jobs to save up enough money to make films, it's vigorous training and strict regimes to beat your opponent at any cost, it's finishing the race even though your leg's broken, and sometimes it's putting your little baby feelings aside because the shouty man will teach you more than anybody else ever could.

Your apathy and general mediocrity disgust me.
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>>71941336
>So, bearing this in mind, why do you think people would want to be trained by Gordon Ramsey?
Because their daddy didn't love them?
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>>71941555
but he has achieved more than you ever will, if we go by pure benefit to mankind you'd be on the chopping block way before him
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>>71941565
>ASK ME ABOUT AYN RAND
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>>71941565
>Bullshit.
No. There is no reason why passion would necessitate acting that way.

>You happy-go-lucky glass half full faggots never have been and never will be successful.
This has nothing to do with anything, you're just lashing out and trying to make this personal.

>you think you understand passion
Yes.

>Your apathy and general mediocrity disgust me.
You seem upset.
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>>71941578
>le biggest rapist is le best rapist plz rape my asshole uguuu
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>>71941386
He reminds me a bit of Sean Bean in Equilibrium.
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>>71941609
>There is no reason why passion would necessitate acting that way.
And this is exactly why you don't understand it.

I am upset that people like you exist.
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If I weren't 24 years old I'd try to become a chef, but you gotta start early for that shit
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>>71938557
>is Ramsey a Psychopath?

Yes, undoubtedly.

Why?

He attacks, ridicules and humiliates publicly other people based on his perception of cooking food the wrong way or doing things wrongly.

He has no consideration whatsoever for how damaged the public perception and social status of that humilliated person becomes after he "helps them".

He just doesn't care about anybody else but himself, he could do things in another way, genuinely teaching and helping people without absolutely destroying their image and their self-confidence, but he doesn't help people, he shatters them and then he demands a "thank you".

Everything for himself, the show and the entertainment of the alienated masses and the huge profits they bring to him.

He is an absolute psychopath and above all a genuinely bad person.
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>>71939284
Pretty cringe to tbqph on Marco's part. I can picture myself walking out of there calling him a fucking greasy prick for not shaking my hand. No respect for dressing down bullshit like this and no respect for people who try to garner respect by doing so
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>>71941667
t. American

watch the british kitchen nightmares, he can't even compare
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>>71941647
>And this is exactly why you don't understand it.
I do. You're just making a ridiculous argument. You cannot justify why having passion makes it ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY AND UNAVOIDABLE to act like a loud, aggressive asshole. It's pure nonsense.
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>>71939284

His son fucked this chick on live tv last month
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>>71939757
that fake fucking laughing at the pig thing at the end

holy fucking cringe
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>>71939971
you could work with someone just as good at cooking who isn't constantly making a deliberate effort to be a prick.
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>>71938557
why is he calling people cummies?
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>>71941647
Being passionate does not necessitate getting extremely butthurt at everything and acting like an asshole.

The reason Marco acts like he does is not because of passion, but because he has major mommy-issues.
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>>71941667

You've got it all wrong, Ramsay only usually visits people who have nothing more to lose, ie. are in huge debt and are very close to being bankrupt.

And these people know how Ramsay is. And that IS the reason why they invite him. They want him to destroy the bad parts and sort out the good ones.
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>>71941735
vid?
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>>71941728
Look at the most skilled and successful people in their respective fields, and then kill yourself.
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>>71941704
>I can picture myself walking out of there calling him a fucking greasy prick for not shaking my hand.

I'm sure you have power fantasies like that a lot.
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>>71939843
DUDE YOU'VE ALREADY LOST AS SOON AS YOU'VE STARTED TALKING TO ME BECAUSE IM THE HOST LMAO
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>>71941706

I'm not American.

And I couldn't care less about the Brits or any other kind of despicable Anglo.

Anglos are psychopatic scum to my eyes, devoid of all type of kindness and genuine empathy, the Anglos have a culture of scorn, deceit and the idea that knifing your fellow in the back is ok as long as he exposed himself enough.
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>>71941789
Try explaining logically why you think acting like a loud, aggressive asshole is absolutely unavoidable when you're passionate about anything.
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>>71941609
>No. There is no reason why passion would necessitate acting that way.

Im fucking done seriously

Im so happy that you came into this thread and reminded me that no matter how down I feel, I will never be as useless and mediocre as you
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>>71941827
*tips*
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>>71941768

How delusional can you be.
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>>71941789
>all skilled people are aggressive retards

Wew lad.
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>>71941842
Try explaining logically why you think acting like a loud, aggressive asshole is absolutely unavoidable when you're passionate about anything.

>I will never be as useless and mediocre as you
But you are useless and mediocre. You're just projecting it onto me.
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>>71941818
>even in anons fantasies hes to scared to say shit to Marcos face
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>>71941883
He only acts like that when they do dumb shit like leave raw chicken next to cooked chicken and fuck up orders

If you ever worked in a busy kitchen you would know how common this confrontational shit is
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>>71941386
Have the respect and rules and boundaries and guidlines set up before hand by the shows creators and then just fill in the shoes of the "Gruff but firm culinary genius"

Has nothing to do with his actual personality.
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>>71941578
He's a fucking chef. The world would be a better place without his disgusting sociopathic kind.
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>>71941852

Huh? I'm only explaining how it is.

It's not a drama show where you can make everything up, you know? These are actual businesses, and they clearly state how they invite Ramsay to save their shithole in every episode.

What I'm saying it's not Ramsay's fault, regardless of how dramatised the episodes are.

Are you saying he's responsible for those people, their behaviour and their businesses? It's you who is delusional then.
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I'm gonna have to side with him here>>71941390

stop bullying him guys, not everyone has a hard on for authority.
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>>71941967
>He's a fucking chef.
>The world would be a better place without his disgusting sociopathic kind.

You can't really dismiss a person's impact on the world for just being a chef and then saying that th world would be better off without him.

At least not when you don't want to appear as incoherently brabbling child.
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>>71941973
It's not a hard on for authority, he's just never left his basement if he doesn't understand how a competitive community acts. This shit is normal everywhere, like football, ice hockey, the army whatever. When marco and gordon opened their flagship restaurants, there weren't just there to make money, but to be the best.
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>people actually think Marco White is based

His mom died when he was a kid and his father was a typical 'dude authority and discipline, art of manliness, i'm secretly a closet homosexual lmao' type of guy who raised him on his own.

That's why Marco acts the way he does. There's some mad Freudian shit going on.
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>>71942053
You've never left your basement if you think being passionate about something (or competitive) means acting like an asshole.
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>>71942053
>It's not a hard on for authority

but it obviously is. You praise a competitive society. First, bear in mind that what you call "competitive" society are actually hierarchical empires (yes, we live in one) and that this type os "society" is not the only nor the first one.

Not everyone has a hard on for successful (authoritarian) competitors, to put it in terms you may agree with.
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You don't get a kitchen running like this with smiles and hugs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrGY0xajUVE
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>>71938557
That was his restaurant mate, he was working as head chef there not as owner.
I want to see you in a 2 star michelin kitchen trying to make everything as perfect as the day before. you dont get to the top of chefs by being nice.
Also he leared at marco whites restaurant who is a notorious sadist and drill seargant.
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>>71942113
>asshole

grow thicker skin, faggot. You just don't understand banter and that a hectic environment like that causes your mouth to run off.

did you even watch boiling point? His employees can take a beating but they know he's fair in the end. They're not overly sensitive pussies like you
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>>71942058
This. His reputation totally precedes him, the only reason he has so much respect is scripted tv situations manufactured to make him look right all the time. Same goes for Ramsey.
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>>71942161
>grow thicker skin, faggot.
Learn how to behave in society, faggot.

>banter
I just love this meme.

>They're not overly sensitive pussies like you
If you're the one attacking me then you're the one who is at fault. Don't try to flip it around and blame others.
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>>71938557
It's pretty wel known that Ramsay will professionally destroy you but he's actually a pretty cool guy, if massively ADHD
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>>71942232
>banter
>meme

are you a grill?
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>>71942156
DAT COHESION

it has an almost army like vibe about it
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>>71942253
Yes it is a meme.

>are you a grill?
No. Why would I be?
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>>71942156
8 seconds in did that nigga gordon just put his finger on the cooking surface?
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>>71942232
>If you're the one attacking me then you're the one who is at fault.

top fucking kek. Sure thing, mr. sous chef
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>>71941972
Why are you making things up?

Ramsay has a show where every single time he attacks, insults, ridicules and humilliates the people he is "helping".

Like that kind of husband or wife who show how much they "love" their other partner by abusing them psychologically.

In the show, he has that kind of personality that creates a toxic environment wherever he goes, in his intimacy maybe he is a different person.

But this is his business, it's what people wants to see, Ramsay shattering people emotionally.

People likes this and they also like MMA or other bloody sports, this doesn't have blood but it has as much violence.

Do you think Ramsey genuinely cares about this people? Now that's delusional.

If you care about people, you also care about their emotional health and about not destroying their public image and exposing them so much.

Tell me about a single restaurant that succeeded with Ramsey help, how big is the percentage? Come on, don't be a fool.

Whatever the people whom he "helps" say, they say it because of the money and the contract they have with the producers of the show.
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>>71942291
>toxic environment

I wish tumblr would leave
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>>71942232
>Society must be an emotional safe space
>Banter is a meme
>Don't victim-blame!
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>>71942287
What are you trying to say?
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>>71942291
Have you ever had a real job?

Be honest
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>>71942337
>Society must be an emotional safe space
Where did I say that?

>Banter is a meme
It is.

>Don't victim-blame!
Why should victims be blamed? Do you believe, for example, that the victim of a robbery should be sentenced in court instead of the robber?
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>>71939284
He likes olive oil a lot
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>>71942291
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>Ramsay has a show where every single time he attacks, insults, ridicules and humilliates the people he is "helping".
>
>Like that kind of husband or wife who show how much they "love" their other partner by abusing them psychologically.
That's literally the same psychology, yeah. People like that are fucking scum.
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>>71942337
>Banter is a meme

...it quite fucking literally is?
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>>71942371
>>71942398
how is banter a meme?
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>>71942371
I believe that if someone cries when they are called a faggot then that person is at fault for being emotionally weak and/or unstable, yes. Someone taking your belongings away from you is very different to someone making noises with their mouth you whiny cunt.
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>>71942291
This is how every episode is

>ramsay comes
>all right let me taste your cooking
>uuh its fucking disgusting
>all right let's get to the food
>it was horrible, undercooked, bad ingredients etc etc
>"no no no no I make every dish with paaaasssion, there's nothing wrong with my cooking, you're just shitting on me for no reason" says the chef/owner
>all right then let's see how you operate in the thick of it
>turns out every customer hates the food, feedback is horrible or just won't get served
>"gee wiz i'm so sorry mr ramsay at least I truly see where I went wrong"

every fucking episode he deals with these morons and you wonder why he gets upset?

You just don't understand that he deals with denial, as long as the owners delude themselves into thinking everything is alright he'll try to burts their bubble. All they need to be is humble and come clean
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>>71942354
The fact that you are a couple of beta cucks who submit to the emotional abuse of their bosses doesn't make it ok or the way things should work.

No Alpha male should accept being insulted publicly and have his public image shattered by a psychopath like Ramsey because he cooked a pizza in a wrong way and say "t-thanks for your h-help".

Getting tired of the cuck apologists in this board.
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>>71942156
How is it even possible to command a bunch of people THIS well
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>>71942426
Sociopaths use it as an excuse for attacking people.

>>71942436
>I believe that if someone cries when they are called a faggot then that person is at fault for being emotionally weak and/or unstable, yes.
This is factually incorrect, and what does it even have to do with anything?

>Someone taking your belongings away from you is very different to someone making noises with their mouth you whiny cunt.
In this case they are equivalent.
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>>71942451
no you just turn the face when suffering emotional abuse not whine like a little cunt bitch

ever heard the adage sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me?
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>>71942291

I have not said anything about Ramsay's behavior, I'm just explaining how it ISN'T his fucking fault that these people invite him to their restaurant.

It's not like Ramsay is controlling their hand.

Get it through your thick skull that the reason they invite Ramsay is because of who and how he is.

They are not children in help, they are mature people who fucked up at some point and invited Ramsay over, knowing full well the risks involved and how it may or may not affect their businesses.

That's why a lot of restaurant's don't want to be involved.
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>>71942446
>it was horrible, undercooked, bad ingredients etc etc
>"no no no no I make every dish with paaaasssion, there's nothing wrong with my cooking, you're just shitting on me for no reason" says the chef/owner

Exactly, the owner is trying to save his public image after Ramsey shattered it.

You call it "delusional", he is trying to save his dignity.

You don't understand it because you have zero emotional intelligence.
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>>71942386
Why wouldn't he? It's healthy, tastes good, has a pretty great history.

Back in ancient Greece the price for winning the olympics were vases full of olive oil and a wreath made of the branches of an olive tree near Zeus' temple.

Olives contain 1-3% volcanic ashes. You're partially eating what inspired the Jewish god when you're eating olives.
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>>71942451
>beta cucks

nice meme

If my boss didnt show me how to do my fucking job I wouldn't be doing as well as I am

keep posting on message boards all day thinking your the shit then buddy, you have done nothing to earn the respect of anyone and yet im the cuck

If you think that people who are experienced in a field shouldnt teach newcomers how shit is supposed to be then good luck making anything out of your life
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>>71942486
I must be a sociopath then

oh wait you're just a clueless sensitive cunt with no resilience
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>>71942489
>no you just turn the face when suffering emotional abuse

Wrong. Grow up, kid.
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>>71942512
There is no diginity to have saved when they serve frozen microwaved food to customers
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>>71942533
>I must be a sociopath then
Sure. There's lots of them on 4chan.

>oh wait you're just a clueless sensitive cunt with no resilience
Based on what?
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>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/fameandfortune/6934757/Fame-and-Fortune-Marco-Pierre-White.html

> Firstly, I'm not materialistic. I'm the third of four boys and my childhood greatly influenced me because I lost my mother, Maria-Rosa, when I was six, two weeks after she gave birth to my younger brother Craig.

So, no matter how much money I make, it's not going to buy the things I want. It's never going to allow me to buy her a dress, to take her for lunch, get her flowers, anything that shows her kindness

All he ever wanted was a mom.
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>>71942536
>kid
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>>71942512
>Exactly, the owner is trying to save his public image after Ramsey shattered it.

If his public image was intact then he wouldn't have needed Ramsey in the first place. It's not like he forces people to call him up and sign the contract to be in his show, you know.
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>>71942536
So what do you do?

Speak up to Ramsey and get yourself fired? nice one
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>>71942529
Did your boss insult, humilliate and ridicule you and then recorded it and showed it to millions of people who will never take you seriously because of that? Did your boss make millions with your emotional abuse?

'Aight.
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>>71942576
>buy her a dress,

Who buys their mother a dress, you sick fuck
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>>71938762
amerifat detected
some restaurants aspire to be something more than just calorie delivery systems for fatties
not that you've ever been to one
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>>71942386
Can you blame him? Easily the best all-rounder. Definitely has some significant weaknesses but if you don't have it in your kitchen and use it frequently chances are you're a big gay boi who enjoys relenting his boipussy to big, fat cocks.
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>>71939284
>/tv/ betas think this is scary

shameful
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>>71942683
Where did you get the idea from that anyone thinks that's scary?
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>>71938557

The guy is an absolute piece of shit cunt. Can't believe people like him and supports his disgusting attitude. He is a poor human being.
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>>71942661
>>71942517
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoV7lw7YBG4
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>>71938557
I would knock the fuck out of this pommy cunt lol
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>>71940915
So wait, you fuck bitches AND kill people? Man, living the dream right there.
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>>71938557
SAVAGE
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>>71938762
I agree but he is screaming at the people who have accepted rules of the game, not at regular people.
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>>71942827
I assume this means you want to have sex with him
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>>71942727
First response, dickhead

>>71939446
>Marco is genuinely terrifying
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>>71942827

Same lol, well actually I'd tell that faggot he ain't nothing but a bitch on camera and take solace in the fact that he'd never hit me. But if he had the balls to, oh man would I fucking eviscerate him
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>>71942486
>Robbery is the equivalent of someone being mean ;-;

Fuck off you whiny cunt.
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>>71943061
As I already said: in this case they are equivalent.
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>>71938557
ITS FUCKING

R A W
A
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YOU

D O N K E Y
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>>71943082

Not that guy but followed your argument - how?
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>>71942512
>saving dignity by making excuses for your failing business when everyone, often including your own workers and family, thinks your food sucks

There's no dignity to save. Emotional intelligence is manning the fuck up and saying, "Alright this is bad, how do we fix it?"
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>>71943105
We were talking about the principle of victim blaming. It doesn't matter what the offense is.
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>>71942606
He doesn't exactly know what is and isn't normal for a son to buy his mother. On account of, y'know, her dying and him growing up without her and all.
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>>71939284
>boy

That is just Chav slang. It is equivalent to pal, buddy, homes, etc. I've got plenty of ex-pat English friends who use the term.
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>>71942739
It's pretty easy to make chefs look like whatever you want when you boil down their hundreds of cooking scenes down to a few clips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtS2Ikk7A9I
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>>71943107

Ramsay also takes over the kitchen mentally as their temporary supervisor so that they'll listen to him.

If the chef or the owner is a stuck up cunt, what's the point? Let the ship sink then. Pride is a sin after all.
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>>71943139
Yes it does. Robbery is objective, insulting is subjective.

Robbery is someone taking something you physically own away from you without your permission; if someone took person A's wallet and took person B's wallet the crime is the same. Insults vary wildly, as does whether or not offence is taken; someone could say the same sentence to person A and person B and one will laugh and the other will cry.

If I called someone a big dumb dumb and they started crying and screamed that they were going to kill themselves because I was bullying them, is that me coaxing someone into suicide, or is that the person being a weak fucking bitch?

You're an idiot.
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>>71943316
>Yes it does.
No. We're talking about the principle of victim blaming. There is a victim and the victim is being blamed. The offense is not relevant.

>You're an idiot.
No, you are.
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>>71938557
How did he get away with this?
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>>71943302
Because sometimes stuck up cunts need help and helping them makes them stop acting like stuck up cunts. That's what Gordon Ramsey does afterall, regardless of what you think. He helps them. He takes their failing business and, if he can, he makes it successful.
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>>71943337
>There is a victim and the victim is being blamed.
So if someone is called a big dumb dumb and they commit suicide over it, it's not because they're mentally ill it's because of bullying?

Gotcha.
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>>71939284
>You'll never be this savage
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>>71943378
What was "fedora" about what I said?

>>71943379
If you attack someone and they commit suicide then yes you are at least partially responsible.
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>>71943340
It was the 90s

Before everyone became a pussy bitch
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>>71943343

I know, I'm on your side.

I'm just annoyed how people don't recognize the psychological factor when handling certain people, and that certainly includes most business owners.

Ramsay actually has a very nice way of handling people so that they won't boil over, put just enough to make them listen.

He's a bit of a cunt with the physical approach on the OP's video though.
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>>71943418
>partially responsible

Partial responsibility implies some of the responsibility lies with the deceased. That's victim blaming. Don't victim blame you shitlord.

No but seriously kill yourself at the first available opportunity.
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>>71941386
I sympathise watching him work, he obviously deserves his success but goddamn he's a cunt. His son is proof of what happens when there is no disciplined father figure around
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>>71941191
>HEYGUYS I RECORDED SOME SHIT MUSIC
>/mu/ wasn't impressed
>BAAAAAW
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>>71943418
Making yourself out to be a hard man if someone says nasty words to you... I'm sure you have a fine swing with your katana senpai
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>>71943464
He was in serious debt at the time, took out a bank loan worth tens of thousands just to open his own restaurant and the paparazzi were posting shit about him having an affair in the papers

Its very understandable when you watch the actual Boiling Point series
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>>71943496
>Partial responsibility implies some of the responsibility lies with the deceased.
In some cases perhaps.

>Don't victim blame you shitlord.
Do you think the concept of victim blaming is somehow unique to SJWs?

>No but seriously kill yourself at the first available opportunity.
Why?

>>71943517
I'm just telling it like it is. What is your problem?
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