>>71697817
Azor Jon edition
>>71700691
Azor Dany!
Azor Bran
>>71700691
dat floppy scabbard
>yfw they just introduce a guy literally called Azor Ahai next season
>>71700691
That looks fucking terrible.
So who's this Preston guy that people keep talking about and why is he relevant?
Can anyone post the S6 Book vs Jaime image?Thanks.
I´m not going to watch season 7 for see her dying by Ms Mary Sue.
She's one of the few interesting and well acted characters left in this garbage show.
Azor Cersei best villain alive tbqh
Reminder that Dany is the villain.
Ending confirmed.
>>71700506
>Moralfag
>>71700753
She probably won't be killed by Dany. It'll either be Jaime or Arya, assuming she doesn't manage to ruse cruise everyone and escape to Casterly Rock.
>S07E10
>Dany and Cersei realise the true enemy is the patriarchal white walkers
>they join together with Queen in the North Sansa Stark
>Sand Sneks and Olenna join with them cause "Strong women need to stick together"
>Yara arrives at the last moment as they destroy the misogynist white walkers "the Nights King probably didn't think women are fit to rule"
>they all celebrate while having a glass of red wine and genociding males
>and who
>are you
I hope Drogon get fed up with Dany's bullshit and BLACKS her with his giant dick. As it expands to gigantic proportions inside her, her vagina ruptures due to its sheer size.
As she shits out blood and the ruins of her interior, Drogon then forces his big black pecker down her throat, and she gags on its girth, unable to breath or cry for help, while she bleeds to death.
And no I'm not projecting.
>>71700753
>>71700786
It's obviously Jamie. Prophecies always come true in this series.
>>71700723
>He's a swashbuckling roguish sillyman with a an American accent
>crash-lands on Westeros in his space ship
>Sansa: "You really are quite rude"
>Azor: "BABY, YOU HAVE NO IDEA" };^)
They'll probably get Chris Pratt
First for house Ball
>>71700813
Dragon's don't have dicks in GOT.
According to you, why did "A Man" give Arya this job in particular ? Do you think him giving her the task of killing the actress who plays the person responsible for her family's genocide was part of her mental conditioning ? It's obvious that all this "become no one, have no name" stuff is about giving up on identity and personal motives, so maybe the point of this task was to help her detach herself from revenge and grudges. It kind of works in a way, the actors are clearly making fun of the starks and depicting the lannisters as tragic heroes, and the laters gain all the sympathy of the crowd thanks to the actress's talent. yet Arya makes a difference between what's happening on stage and what's behind the stage thus leading her to not do the job, she even gives her tips on how to make her acting more genuine. The theater being an element of this story also implies that Arya could have found some catharsis in killing Cersei's actress.
Accomplishing this assassination in particular was against the direction of "A girl must have no name" transformation. So by not killing the actress, she proves she's given up on being the revengeful Arya and more importantly she proves that she achieved the required apathy to the world's events and politics that an assassin must have in order to be efficient. (the world being represented by the stage and its actor in this case)
So when she comes A man says "Finally a girl has become no one" so we can assume she actually did everything right. However her reply says the contrary, but he doesn't even react to that and lets her go away with a mask.
So what it is then ? Did she pass ? Is he manipulating her into some scheme serving the Faceless God ? Or does none of D&D writing make any sense besides giving fuel to memes ?
>>71700768
>>71700768
>Ice and Fire
>>71700813
>implying Arya won't assassinate Drogon and take his face to reveal herself mid-flight and murder-suicide Dany
And who
>>71700837
cancer:the post
I'm just importing some worthwhile discussion from the previous thread
>>71700506
>>71700785
>>71700800
how stupid can
>>71700506
be?
>>71700799
>E10
>>71700837
wasn't Aman shot and thrown out of the plane though? how did he survive?
>>71700837
>Or does none of D&D writing make any sense besides giving fuel to memes ?
I think this is most luckily. They only made 4 stories worse. Dorne, Ironborn, Arya, Stannis. They improved the rest.
>>71700856
>and whooo
>are youu
>>71700704
What's his endgame?
>>71700907
they destroyed Jaime's character
>You are the ship's captain Theon is travelling on.
>You want his gold but he is also fucking your daughter.
What you do?
>Jon discovering he's Rhaegar's kid and his mother is Lyanna will probably get Sansa just enough support to become Queen
>Jon will still probably have a lot of support in the North considering they chose him on merits over a trueborn in the first place
>Sansa's hold over the Norrth will never be secure so long as Jon walks those halls
Tell me one good reason Sansa shouldn't just marry Jon at that point to secure the North?
Remember to vote
http://www.strawpoll.me/10679088
http://www.strawpoll.me/10679088
>>71700929
CRASHING THOSE PUSSIES
>>71700743
anyone?
>>71700941
Kill him and steal his gold??
>>71700929
It's good to see he's a red-blooded hetero and not some poof
>>71700965
what a terrible pol
thanks for the vomit cunt
>>71700894
Is so annoying,one can´t like a fuckin character because muh is evil muh but she don't redeeming just kill themselves
>>71700956
Because Jon's small dick is canon now. No woman wants that
>mfw GoT fanhags constantly swoon over a character with a small dick
Who is the most redpilled character in the show?
Think it's the Hound with his "pretty birds singing pretty things" and critics on knighthood.
>>71701020
I'm not trying to say that one can't like Cercei.
All I argued is that comparing Cerceis and Robbs fuck-ups is silly, as they have fundamentally different meaning for the characters construtions.
Go on, like the crazy bitch all you want
>>71700940
They still have time to make things right. Meanwhile you gotta give them credit for improving davos' story, ignoring Faegon, the entire king's landing story this season, and Brann's story was really interesting this season too. Season 6 redeemed everything imo. Dany still sucks and I want her to die though.
>>71701068
Syrio Forel
>>71700941
>vow revenge
>hire Faceless Man to take his sister's place and shame him into seeking glory
>he takes the bait and marches on Winterfell
>seek out the Boltons to take him out
>learn that the Bastard of Bolton likes to torture and mutilate people
>tell him about Theon's love for his diq
>be present in the dungeon when Theon gets his diq chopped off
>step out of the shadows with a grin
>"heh, I bet you don't remember me kid, but I sure remember you"
>take his diq back to Pyke because it was everything personnel
>and who
who dickon here?
>>71700741
He theorycrafts based on his understanding of the books. Unfortunately the show is completely lacking. It does create some gold-tier content like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_LfSe8k06M
>>71700753
Jaimie is confirmed killing her next season... she's a fantastic actress I agree the damn show won't be the same without her.
>>71701002
He is Lord Greyjoy's son and Robb Stark's friend I don't see how it is reasonable.
>>71701068
Bran. He's literally connected to the matrix
>>71701112
Who is gonna know? I am ain't telling.
>>71700929
Destroying the wall, with no survivors.
>>71701078
Delete yourself,i always will love my Cerci
>>71701078
>comparing Cerceis and Robbs fuck-ups is silly
why? both of them had short term successes but were ultimately doomed to failure because of their character flaws.
>>71700741
Some boy band singer from the 90's
>>71701050
Small compared to Tormund is nothing to be ashamed of
>>71700825
I don't buy that show Jaime would turn on Cersei for what she's done so far.
Tommen hero'd, and the rest of the ppl she killed were lannister enemies.
Jaime CONSTANTLY talks about how he is willing to kill everyone on earth for Cersei. He's said it every season since S1.
In ep8 he talked about how she would burn cities to the ground and was totally fine with it. And in ep10 she was basically acting in self defence.
It makes zero fucking difference that Cersei's chosen method of political vengeance ended up being the same as Aerys'.
That's like a Jewish guy turning on his brother for gassing a bunch of ppl in self defence.
>>71701111
>Jaimie is confirmed killing her next season
Bitch where
Preston is a fucking faggot
>>71701162
>Jaime CONSTANTLY talks about how he is willing to kill everyone on earth for Cersei. He's said it every season since S1.
I think he will kill herself too.
>>71701162
>I don't buy that show Jaime would turn on Cersei for what she's done so far.
There are 13 episodes for him to find an excuse. He'll find it and they'll exit the world just as they entered it, together.
>>71700885
>>71700901
Ah yes le cancer and le bane, sorry for not being an insecure buzzword bandwagon autists and not filling the threads with twitter pics of the actors while parroting memes
here are your (you)'s quality posting friends.
>>71701145
Robb is best waifu desu
>>71701146
Cercei owes her successes to Tywin, Tyrion, Jaime, Qyburn and Kevan. She's incarnation of incompetence.
Robb fucked up at certain point because of his morality and due to being a kid that acts like a kid.
If you can't spot the differences, you probably lack certain portions of brain
>>71701162
But sadly she is the villain now and is going to die anyways,what a garbage.
>>71700837
He's going to follow her to Westeros. Every time she kills she will owe another life. She'll have to kill Jaquen to defend the ppl she cares about.
>>71701166
Not that guy but it is fucking pottery anon.
Mad king goes crazy - > Jamie kills him
Mad queen goes crazy - > Jamie kills her
POTTERY
O
T
T
E
R
Y
>>71701092
Who is Dickon?
>>71700965
>Littlefinger becomes king
>gets bored as fuck having to do all that work
>wishes he was back to scheming
>literally starts inciting rebellions just so he can scheme to crush it
>eventually causes full-blown civil war like the good old days
>poisons himself to cause more chaos and let someone else climb the ladder
>>71701162
fine then tyrion will kill her and maybe Jamie too. The point is that prophecies are always correct in this show.
>>71701215
Cersei is kind of obsessed with being like Tywin. The problem is that she never understood what made Tywin so effective
Kelly C rape Cersei when
>>71701254
>The point is that prophecies are always correct in this show.
No.
>>71701267
Girls can't rape girl, silly
>>71701282
absolutely. show me a prophecy that went completely wrong.
>>71701166
"Is confirmed" is 100% just a meme in the context of /got/ threads. Literally nothing is confirmed for next season, nothing at all.
>>71701162
>Tommen hero'd,
because of Cersei
>and the rest of the ppl she killed were lannister enemies
I don't think he'd be okay with Kevan's death tbqh
>Jaime CONSTANTLY talks about how he is willing to kill everyone on earth for Cersei. He's said it every season since S1.
but he's had character development where he started to become a real human bean. Myrcella's death set him back to his earlier edgelord ways but his talk with Walder Frey and Cersei's Mad Queen shit indicates that the next step in his development is supposed to be human bean: part 2. the death of his kid (again) will be the catalyst because pottery.
>It makes zero fucking difference that Cersei's chosen method of political vengeance ended up being the same as Aerys'.
more pottery, can't disregard that
>>71701301
Stannis Baratheon being the prince that was promised
>>71701162
if cersei goes mad queen and tries to destroy kings landing with wildfire, then jaime will most certainly try to save the city again by killing her
jaime talks a lot of shit but when it comes down to it he will try to do the right thing, and he isn't going to just sit by while cersei burns everyone in kings landing
Reminder that GoT's not feminist
>>71701326
That was just a misinterpretation of the signs, when she was probably seeing signs related to Jon. Or maybe someone else, wtf knows.
Why is he angry?
>>71701286
I thought Unella raped her
>>71701326
That was Melly's failure to interpret the signs. Or maybe R'hllor was actively trying to subvert the prophecy
From the viewer/reader's perspective, it's pretty obvious that the signs she talks about all point to Dany, because we've actually seen all that stuff happen
>>71700691
LIGHTBRINGER WHEN?
>>71700837
>So by not killing the actress, she proves she's given up on being the revengeful Arya and more importantly she proves that she achieved the required apathy to the world's events and politics that an assassin must have in order to be efficient.
Hot damn that's a pretty good point actually, and it explains perfectly why Jaqen would think Arya's become no one. Only why would he be ok with her fucking off after that.
And there's the thing about sending the Waif to kill Arya but it could be that Jaqen really just wanted to see which one would come out on top.
Still, I think DnD went way too far with the ambiguity. What are the fucking rules of house B&W? Are there any?
Why did the Ghost of High Heart see so much important and eventful shit but also see Sansa slapping Sweetrobin and ripping up some doll?
>>71701399
When Jon buries Longclaw in Dany's heart
>>71701395
>all point to Dany
and all of them also point to Jon. minus dragons.
>>71701232
rickons husband. they were the gay emporers of essos before rickon died
>>71700837
I think you're giving the writers much more credit than they deserve.
I will say that Arya's changing facial expressions during the performance (in particular when "Cersei" shows so much greif) prove that she's thinking more about her own vengeful desires in regards to the Lannisters. That much was made clear.
>>71701194
No, everyone's saying its already happened.
>"he hates her now, check out that dirty look he gives her in the throne room at the end of the season, he fucking hates her now. Valonquar when?"
Cersei's infidelities are what killed their relationship in the books, and in the show they aren't NEARLY as bad, and will never come to light now anyway.
>inb4 Tyrion
>that would be totally retarded writing
There's pretty much no one left whom she could hurt that Jaime cares about more than Cersei herself.
>inb4 Brienne
>that would totally retarded ugly girl wish-fulfillment
If Jaime and Cersei don't go down fighting together it would fuck up their whole characters. It could only happen if tumblr was holding the reigns.
>inb4 tumblr IS holding the reigns
Fuck, I'm starting to disbelieve my own argument, here.
>>71700691
>>71700701
>>71700704
>>71700760
We see you Azorautist
>>71701442
>buries Longclaw in Dany's heart
bravo anon, you made Dany cry.
>>71700768
> http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Maiden-Made-of-Light
>>71700835
Are these cunts of house Bad Pusay?
>>71700768
Sad thing is that the actual ending will be probably worse than this. Dany and Jon marry and dragons burn the bad walkers, everyone lives happily ever after.
At least his idea is somewhat original.
>>71701464
kek
where did this meme even come from?
>>71701475
How do you explain his look towards Cersei other than guarded concern then? Concern for himself, I might add. She massacred hundreds, including a Lannister, in destroying the Sept. Jaime might be in danger too, he doesn't know. She's never gone this far before.
>>71701486
>> http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Maiden-Made-of-Light
thanks for sharing.
>>71701135
More like building the wall. In the past.
>>71701215
Cersei owes her successes to utilizing her power at opportune moments. she's not incompetent at tactics, she's incompetent at strategizing. she failed at strategy because her character flaw is emotional self-righteousness.
Robb owes his successes to utlizing his military power at opportune moments. he wins battles because he's a great tactician. but he loses the war because he's a bad strategist and can't gauge the long-term consequences of his actions. he fails at strategy because his character flaw is also emotional self-righteousness.
the difference between Robb and Cersei is their moral code, but if you can't spot the similarities then maybe you're the one lacking certain portions of your brain.
>>71701512
Does the nine year long winter or whatever the fuck just not happen then? I mean, that's coming with or without the Walkers, right? It's meteorology.
>>71700691
>>71701355
> cause le FIRE AND BLOOD XDDDD
just had a sex dream with maise williams lads
amazing
>>71701148
I bet he's pissed off that Sweet Robin has turned out to be a nobody in the show, and will probably be a nobody in the book when all is said and done.
>>71701569
I don't know that Robb was self-righteous in his marriage, just oblivious to it's consequences. Probably due to his youth. I don't see the similarities you do.
>>71701630
I had a sex dream with Gwendoline Christie that revolved around her being a bus driver.
I bet mine was better.
>>71701135
But why? And how?
>>71701399
what is that from
>>71701458
he might still have dragons.
what is full prophecy of azor ahai/PTWP though? I only remember burn amidst salt and smoke because of le ham joke.
>>71701630
>tfw almost never get sexy dreams
I even had a dream of Maisie once but nothing sexual happened
I must be low test
I was making the Boltons great again as Roose, and I captured and reeked Stannis.
What now, Stanniscucks?
>>71701569
to be fair book robb made more sense as to why he married a westerling
>>71701639
>muh honor > your honor
>disregard consequences of pissing off your allies
he was self-righteous as fuck
>>71701680
can someone tells me who dies after hodor meme ?
>>71701569
>Cersei owes her successes to utilizing her power at opportune moments
What power did she use at Blackwater? WHat power did she use after Purple Wedding? What power did she use to get out of the Sept? What power did she use to end hostilities in Riverlands?
She fails on tactical level every time she moves, they are compeletly different character, including theyr morality, which in case of Cercei, is nonexistient
>>71701690
yeah I know, the romcom shit in the show was fucking stupid
>>71701680
Flay him
ok guys, we don't know about house dayne's words. Elio knows it apperantly, grrm told him but elio said he wasn't pleased with it.
Elio wants it to be "dawn brings light" but says it is too on the nose.
Dawn was the first lightbringer guys. and sword of the morning protects the sword until azor ahai reborn claims it.
>>71701322
No, mate.
He literally talks to Walder about how Walder is a coward and the Lannisters have done his fighting for him, and everyone fears the Lanns and not the Freys.
Nothing in it about being a good guy.
But that scene DOES contain him turning down qt wenches out of implied affection for... you guessed it.... Cersei.
And in ep8 (to Edmure), as well as ep1 and ep6 - that's THREE TIMES this season - he avows his willingness to slaughter other ppl in Cersei's name. HEAPS of people, including innocents, including fucking babies.
There are few things so explicit in the dialogue and so well established as Jaime's willingness to forsake all other moral considerations for Cersei.
>Winter is Coming
>Jon Snow knows Nothing
and
>The Lannister twins are in this together
>>71701680
>current year
>taking a picture of your monitos
>>71701680
> Diplomacy: 0
>>71701751
Being in jail gives you a -10 diplo, and being in oubliettes gives you -20
>>71701680
>not using puush
>>71701723
I tortured him ubtil he got the mutilated trait, as well as castrated him. I sent him home and he got the depressed trait. Roose likes the idea of a ruling lord who he's absolutely ruined.
SHOW ME THE BODY
>>71701751
>-10 when you're in the dungeon
What does it mean?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgT8CMJSTTw
>>71701050
>Is too autistic to understand brotherly bantz
>>71701714
>What power did she use at Blackwater?
tried to take out Tyrion. she failed, but at least she took him out long enough so he wouldn't be around for the power shift.
>WHat power did she use after Purple Wedding?
she used it to imprison Tyrion
>What power did she use to get out of the Sept?
Zombie Gregor
>What power did she use to end hostilities in Riverlands?
dispatched Jaime, removing him as a liability from her KL power play
>She fails on tactical level every time she moves
she doesn't, she uses every opportunity to make a power move and usually succeeds.
>they are compeletly different character,
they're not completely different as I've pointed out earlier
>ncluding theyr morality, which in case of Cercei, is nonexistient
I said as much, so what's the point you're trying to make here?
>>71701166
The prophecy that a witch gave for Cersei included the part that some day she will die by the hand of a "little brother"
Why was Jaqen a nights watch prisoner in the first place?
>feels she's not getting the appreciation and credit she "deserves" for getting the Vale cause without that they wouldn't have won
>wants credit for Petyr convincing Robyn to get the Vale
>wants credit for Petyr having come to her offering the Vale in the first place
>wants credit for sending a fucking raven to a army that was already camped out to fight the Boltons
What the fuck? Either Sansa's the dumbest bitch alive or D&D are absolute hacks who don't know what or who they're writing cause they just want shit to happen.
>>71701935
George couldn't think of any other way to get him in Arya's storyline.
>>71701655
noah
>>71701919
Tyrion, not Jamie will kill her.
>>71701919
I think the 'valonquar' can and will be Goldyboy because of the pottery with Mad Kings and Queens, but given Martin's fondness of red herrings it could be anyone.
>>71701542
Your first thought was that he's worried about himself?
Let's assume he's been made aware of the key events before he gets to the throne room.
He knows that the Tyrells and the Faith (along with Keven and Lancel) were killed by the Wildfire.
He knows that Tommen suicided.
He thought that Cersei was having a Trial by Combat. The reason that she couldn't have one is because Kevan and Marjory and the High Sparrow got Tommen to outlaw them.
Jaime's loyalty to Cersei WAY outweighs his loyalty to Kevan, as we can see in ep2 and ep3 in the Council scenes.
Jaime could give a fuck about Marj and actively wants to kill the High Sparrow.
So there's Tommen. Well, Tommen is just another one of his kids that he doesn't love QUITE as much as a father would, but probably more like an uncle would. He's been getting closer to his kids, sure, but he still has some emotional distance.
Cersei, meanwhile was fully a mother to Tommen, and so there's no reason that Jaime would have to suspect she would have acted this way if she knew it meant the death of her child.
She is suffering more than Jaime over Tommen's death, and it really wasn't her fault.
So, no, he's not going to think of her as a danger to himself, because he's not a coward and she only acted in self defense. If anything he's going to be relieved that she was able to defend herself while he wasn't there to kill them all himself.
They will grieve together, shortly, (probably off-screen) and move on.
>>71701904
How did taking out Tyrion benefit her? She weakened herself by antagonizing, and then removing a skillful manager, and missed the entire plot on Joffs life. Didn't even manage to kill him.
Zombie Gregor was actually Q saving her ass.
And in Riverlands it was Jaime who did everything.
She seems on top, but she's sourrounded by enemies and defensless more than ever.
You can like her, but arguing that she's competent ruler is funny
>>71701785
Is House Karstark extinct?
>>71701731
>He literally talks to Walder about how Walder is a coward and the Lannisters have done his fighting for him, and everyone fears the Lanns and not the Freys.
he says that because Frey gives him the "we're not so different" line and it pisses him off
>But that scene DOES contain him turning down qt wenches out of implied affection for... you guessed it.... Cersei
but that was before he saw the shit in KL, wasn't it
>And in ep8 (to Edmure), as well as ep1 and ep6 - that's THREE TIMES this season - he avows his willingness to slaughter other ppl in Cersei's name. HEAPS of people, including innocents, including fucking babies.
all that happened before Cersei's jihad and Tommen's death though. I explicitly said that his next character development would be triggered by Cersei's Mad Queen shit and Tommen's death.
>>71701680
wat game/mod
>>71701991
Do you think that D&D would not use readily made PLOT TWEEST if they could?
>>71701670
>When the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt to wake dragons out of stone.
>>71702015
She was afraid of him because of the prophecy.
>>71701068
Roose.
I would say Tywin, but he was delusional as fuck where his children were concerned.
>>71700691
Based Jon thread :)
/got/'s guy!
>>71701904
Fucking with Tyrion is easily one of the biggest things she did wrong. He won the Blackwater for her, and Tyrion would not have allowed the Faith Militant in power as hand or as master of coin. Using your power to hurt the people who are trying to help you is the name of the game for Cersei, just look at what she did to the Tyrells, who only ever wanted to protect the city and preserve a Lannister-Tyrell dynasty.
>>71702004
>She is suffering more than Jaime over Tommen's death, and it really wasn't her fault.
>really wasn't her fault.
It totally was. If she pulled her smug face from own ass she would have noticed that Tommen is absolutely in love with Marg, and is too weak to cope with his mother killling his beloved wife, her family, and hundrets of people.
>>71702059
What a bunch of bullshit
Reminder that Jaime will live happily ever after withMyrcella
>>71702017
Nope.
>>71702033
Crusader Kings 2 with Game of Thrones mod
Literally better than the show or waiting for books
>>71702080
/got/'s guy is Euron, with Qyburn close behind.
>>71702004
>Cersei, meanwhile was fully a mother to Tommen
Tommen is clearly shown to be drifting away from her and towards the faith. She is barred from small council meetings and the decision to outlaw trial by combat, clearly at the advice of the High Sparrow, was made entirely without her input. Tommen was becoming a problem.
>>71702017
who cares
>>71701333
alternatively...
>>71702110in the books
I want to marry Maisie!
>>71702015
>She seems on top, but she's sourrounded by enemies and defensless more than ever.
This, typically, seems entirely lost on feminist blogger shrills. Women lack the ability to think ahead.
>>71701333
What the fuck is this picture trying to show
>>71701731
>Good guy cannot be loyal to his sister who he fucks
Okay dude, you clearly missed the first couple episodes in which he was just this edgy dickhead that just loved to bait people into fights and get them pissed off. After he got his hand lobbed off, he lost the trait that made him the man he was and got pushed down a peg. Season 1 Jaime would have not returned to Brienne at Harrenhall.
>>71702015
>How did taking out Tyrion benefit her? She weakened herself by antagonizing, and then removing a skillful manager, and missed the entire plot on Joffs life. Didn't even manage to kill him.
what part of "good at tactics but bad at strategy" do you not understand? it means her power plays work on the short term but get her in deeper shit in the long term, which is exactly how it went down.
>Zombie Gregor was actually Q saving her ass
she was the one who placed Q in power to do that though. Q was her personal project.
>And in Riverlands it was Jaime who did everything
she didn't care about the actual conflict in Riverrun for fuck's sake, she just wanted Jaime out of KL.
>You can like her, but arguing that she's competent ruler is funny
when did anyone make this argument, ever?
>>71701652
Some think because he has the night king's curse on him, going beyond the wall; which has a bunch of spells and stuff cast on it preventing the white walkers from crossing will be dispelled if he manages to bring the night's king curse beyond the wall.
>>71702161
also
>She seems on top, but she's sourrounded by enemies and defensless more than ever.
which supports the point I made about her being shit at strategy. she got herself back in power (tactics) but lost everything else (strategy). she won the battle but lost the war, much like Robb.
>>71701050
He's a grower
>>71702161
If by "work in short term" you mean she's getting in deeper shit with every step she makes, but she's to smug to notice, then you're right.
I still fail to see how it makes her good at anything, besides tactics of antagonizing everyone at every occasion she gets
>>71702226
Jon, pls
>>71700929
even this obvious closet case gets more pussy than half of /got/. hows it feel
>>71701714
>Blackwater
Cersei's political form of power was the wrong currency for this kind of conflict, but she still managed to hold the kingdom together while Joffrey and Tyrion were at eachother's throats and was responsible for the creation of the wildfire they used.
She said herself that had the invasion been led by anyone other than Stannis she might have had a chance of stopping the slaughter through seduction.
>Purple Wedding
In her judgement, the culprit was Tyrion. She was successfully able to get an innocent member of her own family convicted and boxed out all of his possible defenders until freak chance (the Martell revenge) intervened, and even then Tyrion still would have been killed.
She was not successful in her manhunt for Sansa, but that's because Littlefinger's entire, considerable resources centre around Sansa as the focus of his plot.
>The Sept
What power COULD she have used, except for what she did, which was secure her own release on the basis of her love for Tommen?
If Lannister forces had tried to break her out she would have been killed by the Sparrow matyrs.
>Riverlands
The two major Lannister plays in the Riverlands have been by Tywin and Jaime.
Tywin called his own shots, but Cersei specifically makes Jaime head to the Riverlands in ep6, giving him her reasons why the mission was worthwhile. Before that, he wasn't going. And the Riverlands aren't even Cersei's field of play. She handles Kings Landing backroom shenanigans, not fucking military strategy.
All your examples, though readily refutable, were also vaguely irrelevant and retarded.
Cersei does have legitimate skill in her sphere of influence/game of thrones. And, like the other anon said, it is tactical, rather than strategic, in nature.
She's a big one for the coup.
what black ghost busters actress thinks of got
IN THE NEXT SEASON OF GAME OF THRONES:
>Cersei gets informed about Dany's fleet landing at Westeros
>Long intense stare with Qyburn
>Suddenly poor people start to disappear in King's Landing
>Wa la an army of gregors
screencap this
ending twist is ygritte warged into ghost, jon marries dany and ghost, proceeds to rule over westeros
>>71702291
Nope.
>Winter has arrived in KL
>Tons of starving farmers, refugees etc try to enter city
>Cersei refuses to lets them in and becomes ultimate villain because of that as oposed to brown people loving Danny
>>71702026
So you're talking about shit that hasn't happened, which, if it DOES happen, will directly contradict every explicit verbal position Jaime has taken about this subject from the beginning of Season 1 right up until now?
>>71702277
why was i born handsome instead of rich?
>>71702084
>Fucking with Tyrion is easily one of the biggest things she did wrong
the same can be said for Tywin. if there's one thing she has in common with Tywin is her irrational hatred for Tyrion. I don't see how this disproves my earlier points though. I said she was great at opportunistic power plays but bad at strategy because she's an emotional bitch. she perceived Tyrion as a danger so she fucked him.
>just look at what she did to the Tyrells, who only ever wanted to protect the city and preserve a Lannister-Tyrell dynasty
come the fuck on now, the Tyrells were just as machiavellian as the Lannisters. recognizing the Tyrell threat was actually one of the few times she was right about something. they poisoned the king for fuck's sake.
>>71702333
>Cersei says she wants to Make Westeros Great Again and build a wall on the border with Dorne
>>71702158
What i'm saying is that he WILL be loyal to his sister.
He did become more moral and less douchy after the season 3 stuff, but he also didn't let up with his "I would kill everyone in the whole world for Cersei" shtick. He is still talking that way in season 6 and demonstrates no loyalties that are more serious to him than his loyalty to her. He is willing to murder for her. Not just sparrows and tully soldiers, etc, but a fucking baby.
His douchy behaviour is separate from that. The douchiness is what he lost when he ceased being the kingdom's best fighter.
>>71702280
>she still managed to hold the kingdom together while Joffrey and Tyrion were at eachother's throats
She? She had nothing to do with it. Eccpet for udermining Tyrions position at ever possible occasion.
>Purple Wedding
Her judgement was absolutely retarded bullshit, and it makes all her actions a fuck up, as he was a worthy asset
>The Sept
Dunno, she could have not armed a fucking army of religious lowborns in the first place.
>Riverlands
Cercei being oblivious to anything further than her own nose makes here even less capable ruler.
These examples are critical situations that came upon Lannister rule, in all of which Cercei was, at best, useless.
On the contrary, all the actions Robb took on a field of war were more or less successful. What fucked him up was a thing he considered unrelated to the politics and war.
Cercei makes tactical moves that make no sense, and put her and her family in danger.
Robb made a mistake when he didn't realize his cock is part of the war
>>71701357
Ugh, no, why would she do that?
So what's Arya gonna get up to now? I can't even remember who she wanted to kill, frankly. Aren't they all dead?
Book ironborn
>More important characters
>Strong and loyal warriors (they preferred to stay with Theon until death rather than run away with Yara and accepted Theon as their commander)
>Show ironborn
>filthy, backstabbing and undisciplined idiots
>ugly and stupid wafu
>half of characters are cut
What went wrong
>>71702236
>you mean she's getting in deeper shit with every step she makes
you still don't understand the distinction between short term and long term?
>besides tactics of antagonizing everyone at every occasion she gets
she's removing people she perceives as threats/obstacles. some of them are real, some of them are imagined threats. either way, she usually gets her way, which means she's good at short term plays.
>>71702400
>recognizing the Tyrell threat was actually one of the few times she was right about something
That might be the dumbest thing i ever read in a GoT thread. Congratulations!
Rickon's not actually dead right? It was a random farmboy wearing a glamour to impersonate Rickon?
>>71702495
Iron niggers are shit in every single way.
I can't believe that Gurm decided to waste 3 extra POVs on those retards
>>71700827
>Recasts Jon Snow with Pratt
>he unironically wears sunglasses
>when Longclaw transforms into Lightbringer, he just looks at it and goes 'Woah'
>Americans still lose their mind over it and start clapping
I'm starting to feel like I'm psychically linked with D&D with these predictions
>>71702489
They reduce her list to like 3 people this season. Cersei, Walder Frey and I don't remember the third one.
>>71702529
Victarion was the best part of ADWD
>>71702548
Melisandre and the Mountain were on her list
>>71702333
nope
>Cersei makes undead army from KL plebs to fight Dany
>Nigit King crashes the party
>two undead armies clash
>turns out they're both undead so no one can kill each other
>everyone gets bored of it and goes home
>and who
> next season
> Dany kils Euron
> Dany kils Cercei
> Dany goes on to conquer the north but then the #RealBaddies (tm) come south following All-Bran
Screencap this
>>71702548
>>71702577
also Thoros, Beric
>>71702291
I can't quite get over how much I dislike those fucking helmets
Why the fins
Why the lamellar scale instead of a gorget
Why the retardedly huge cheekguards
>>71702577
Not anymore, I don't remember if they ever were in the show. Now it's just Cersei and the Mountain.
>>71702344
sure, if you completely ignore his character arc around the time his hand got chopped off
>>71702591
where does Jonsa factor into this (I think it's totally plausible)
Sophie nips. Finnaly i can die in peace.
>>71702635
She rapes Jon
>>71702087
s6 ep1
>Tommen talking to Jaime about how he was a weakling for not saving Cersei
Jaime: Yeah, you were. You'll do better next time.
s6ep6:
>Tommen becomes Sparrow and chucks Jaime out of KG
Jaime: U wot m8? u weak little retard, get fucked, me and Bronn are gonna kill everyone in your whole fucking religion.
(can't remember the actual dialogue)
Either way: My point is that Jaime isn't some super-sensitive social worker who will say that Cersei's actions were irresponsible in the light of Tommen's propensity for suicide. Jaime himself didn't very much understand Tommen's choices either, and would not have seen the suicide stuff coming, would not have seen that he was "too weak to cope".
Jaime barely fucking knows the kid, and clearly thinks that he's a bit of a faggot.
So NO Jaime wouldn't blame Cersei for Tommen's suicide. That's just reaching for straws.
>>71702515
>Tyrells scheming
>dumb
are you retarded? both in the books and in the show it was abundantly clear that they were planning on taking over.
>>71702635
I believed Jon would step down to give way to Salsa but EP10 left me completely confused about that. I have no idea what's going to happen with that, but I'm sure it'll be even more retarded than LETS MAKE THE BASTID KONG OF DA NORF.
Do you think Victarion would be willing to kinslay Euron if he knew that Euron kinslayed two brothers and is going to kill Damphair?
>>71700753
>jaime didn't die in the riverlands
why even bother
>>71702124
Fine. She's way more of a mother to him than Jaime is a father. The point is Jaime won't be blaming Cersei for Tommen's death, or instigating some kind of moralistic vendetta against her. She's all he has and all he wants. In the show.
Guess what? Bran learns how to use his gift and is the one who prevents Dany's death during her birth and when they took over kings landing from the mad king. Just watch. Oh and she gon marry the king in the north niggas.
>>71702687
What about this: Oona Chaplin comes back and fucks Jon. We do a nice panning shot from her ankles up to her fat arse, then we pull back to a wide shot of her riding Jon's zombie mast. We show full penetration.
>>71702722
So it's all a helpless cycle of confusing time travel tricks?
>>71702731
>zombie mast
more like zombie stick
What the fuck am I supposed to do exactly when these threads inevitably get banned? This thread is going so slowly already how does this even happen? During on-season we'd have about 5 threads going at the same time with 100's of people discussing. Why the fuck does this even happen?
>>71702687
She's gonna conspire with Littlefinger to somehow unseat Jon or shift his support over to herself.
Pretty much start a war amongst themselves just like Jon told her they shouldn't be doing.
Pretty sure Bran coming back or Howland Reed coming and telling Jon about his real parents will get Jon to kneel to Sansa instead of fighting her like she'd probably expect of him.
>>71702769
Go on with your life?
>>71702654
I can't really see much. But what I can see looks, frankly, Margaery tier.
>>71702769
>Why the fuck does this even happen?
Are you retarded?
There's no new content to discuss. Ergo, slow threads.
Kill yourself summerfag
>>71702804
What happened to luscious full breasts? Why do pancakes dominate Westorosi chests?
>>71702775
>Pretty much start a war amongst themselves just like Jon told her they shouldn't be doing.
Too much pottery for D&D not doing it. I think you're right on this one.
>>71702635
Probably not gonna happen to be honest.
Sansa really has no use the closer we're getting to the end.
Guessing she'll die somehow, probably by Petyr's doing, or get exiled or something for treason
>>71702807
>5 books, 6 Seasons, theories confirmed and new ones happening every day
>Nothing to discuss
Nice
>>71702824
>>71702775
What possible reason could Sansa have for battling Jon on any level? She's not shown any real desire or obsession with power.
>>71702769
you can start to see what happens when the series goes off season. people are just spamming memes to keep the general alive and theres no real discussion going on. i hope the mods do their fucking job and begin banning got threads now
>>71702848
After what she has gone through, she should be happy with just a quiet life in Winterfell or an arranged marriage to a nice northern lord's son
>>71702633
I think you're saying that he's moral now so he will step up for Kings Landing when the time comes.
They might write it that way. Especially to conform with Gurm's ending for the books. But it will be retarded in the show given what we've seen/heard from that character.
>>71702495
Nothing, ironborn always were backstabing bastards.
>>71702654
>god tier legs
>tall
>cute stomach
>doesn't need to put on a ton of makeup or fancy clothes when going to the store
>great as a redhead
>gorgeous tits
Why is she so perfect?
>>71702848
She thinks Jon is getting the credit and appreciation that she deserves.
He gets credit for avenging the Red Wedding, and you can even see she's pissed when Wyman says Jon did it, and the Lords ignore how she's the one who got the Vale.that let them win.
She's jealous and feels Littlefinger would've given her the credit that the North won't that would've gotten her made Queen
>>71702722
What we will get is a graphic 10 minute scene of Bran aborting Dany's drogo-baby with a huge smug smile on his face.
It will probably be the final scene of the final episode. I expect they'll play George Baker Selection's 'Little Green Bag'.
>>71702819
Probably all the bong casting. They need more Melly's.
>>71702897
I don't know about gurm's plans, but in the show they clearly went for non-linear character development. so it's asshole Jaime -> human bean Jaime -> reverts to asshole Jaime -> human bean Jaime makes cathartic return.
all his conversations in the Riverlands were setting this up. first he gets reminded of his friendship with Brienne, then Radmure calls him the fuck out, then Walder Frey points out they're both ruthless conniving fucks. he tells them all to fuck off but these conversations clearly get to him. when he returns to KL and sees the damage Cersei did is the moment of his cathartic realization.
>>71702961
Jesus, the Vale did all the work all Sansa did was write a letter to someone that wants to fuck her and owes her a favor while Jon was fighting in the frontlines.
Northerners of course would rather suck up to a new king than give all the credit to foreigners.
How long do you all think Bronn has left before "Bad Pussy" kills him
>>71702909
>doesn't need to put on a ton of makeup
I agree that makeup doesn't really help her. But it doesn't help fucking John Cena, either. Neither one of them looks feminine.
and
>great as a redhead
Yeah, until fucking 2018, when her hairline has receded to the top of her skull and she has to play men for the rest of her career.
>>71702961
I assume Lord Royce led the cavalry. So really, he should be the KING IN THE NORTH
>>71702961
Sansa is shown out of focus after Wyman credits Jon with avenging The Red Wedding. Although, her and LF's facial expressions are puzzling. I think it's designed that way.
>>71702685
Because the Lannisters are completely unfit to rule.
A retarded psychopath killing everybody who wants to put them out of office is also not a good person and is not justified, when their job is to rule over the people who want to kill them. All the Lannisters had to do was dial it back and everything would be fine but then Cersei went and armed the faith militant with the express desire of undermining the people who kept them on the throne because she didn't want any single person except herself to have any power, including the King Tommen who is in his right to make decisions Cersei herself would not make. What were the Tyrells going to do, murder the Lannisters systematically and displace them?
Not to mention your speculations against the Tyrells are exactly what Cersei did to put herself in power. The Lannisters pulled the most illegal and violent coup against the Baratheons that started a war between five fucking factions that still hasn't ended. The Lannisters have no right to their throne and hey should be ducking thankful that the single most powerful nation in the Seven Kingdoms completely bailed them out, instead of trying to kill them for filling the offices that Cersei herself assigned to them happily.
>>71703115
What the fuck did you just say about my waifu?
>>71703198
where did you get that giraffe from
>>71703107
>I bet you thought you could put your dagger in me
>but I'm putting mine in you
>stabs Bronn
bad poosi line of S7 confirmed
>>71703198
Truth.
I get the feeling D&D are gonna have Sansa completely forgive Littlefinger for the stuff he's done and sleep with him.
I see a similar thing happening in the books where she might marry Harry, have sex with him, but he's not as affectionate or intimate as Petyr is , see how he drops Cissy cause she gained weight and how he has multiple bastards and isn't likely to keep to one bed, and she'll fuck Petyr on the side or after Harry gets framed for killing Sweetrobin. Like a Robert/Cersei/Jaime or Robert/Lyanna/Rhaegar type triangle except it's Harry/Sansa/Petyr
>>71703223
*blocks your path*
>>71703158
No, we do see her face or enough of it.
https://youtu.be/rs4XR4fbY8U?t=180
Right around 3:02
>>71703261
Why did Jon and Sansa magically forget CIA killed their dad?
>>71703238
Thats just Singer's fault or whoever the fuck chose that style for her
>>71703302
It's hard to discern her expression because the focus is so soft.
>>71703305
no one knows that. Seriously it's a major point Little Finger started this entire shit storm before S01Ep01
>>71703115
Sophie looks plenty feminine to me anon
And she's not balding, it's just the damage from dyeing her hair all these years and being a blonde irl
>>71703069
Nein nein nein
Jaime and Brienne
>I'm choosing the Lannisters over you, my friend, even if that means that the next time we see eachother it will be with swords drawn.
>Edmure
Surrender, cunt, or i will pulp your fucking baby.
>Walder
You're a coward, I'm a tough guy.
>Cersei on the throne
Fuck, a lot of dark stuff has happened.
Jaime has no reason to blame Cersei for her actions, and would never hold the death of Cersei's child against her, whom she both knew and loved more than Jaime did.
Besides, he's not just "realising" that she's evil. He fucking knows. They share the same moral code: Lannisters (meaning Cersei and Jaime) before EVERYONE ELSE.
They talk about this in the show.
So, yeah, Jaime is morally conflicted. I would even agree that he is INCREASINGLY morally conflicted. But Cersei is everything he is fighting for and he hasn't been given a credible reason to turn on her, and there is nothing for him to have a revelation about: he knows what right and wrong is, and he knows where things stand with Cersei. He always has.
So nice work with the character development pottery. But it wouldn't work the way show Jaime has been written. I'm not saying its impossible. Just that it would be shite.
Jaime is both the good-guy Brienne-friend AND the vicious Lion of Lannister. But he constantly states his priority as being the latter, because that's what Cersei needs him to be.
Any other ending than him dying in front of her in a castle somewhere surrounded by a huge shitpile of unsullied and reachmen would be an injustice to this character as they have been written so far.
>>71703316
It's true. the pulled back hair look never looks good on Sophie. It doesn't help that them blonde roots create the illusion that she's balding. Soph should never tie her hair back again on camera and she'll do alright
>>71703316
>literally a comb-over
>>71702879
That's only because people let it happen because people start leaving the threads during off-season. Fucking bullshit honestly
>>71702654
>you will never see her get blacked
