So is this actually a good series or just a meme?
>>71697153
It's a space opera with factions and betrayals and military tactics. So it's shit.
Its a good series. Why do you think people are still talking about it 30 years later?
Anyone have that massive casting picture some jap made that had like all the characters (even minor ones that appeared in like one episode)
>>71697209
People still talk about Saving Private Ryan but that was mediocre
For something /Pol bangs on about as being pretty much the only acceptable anime in existence it's extremely homoerotic.
I watched the 1st 5-10 episodes.
The concept is good, the writing is incredibly high brow almost philosophical but it's far from entertaining at times.
S'good
The military stuff is a little dry
but the main characters are good, on both sides
The lore is interesting and there's a couple of episodes that work as history lessons for the galaxy which are fun
It's probably the least "anime-y" anime I've ever seen, no cute shit, no weird shit, Master and Commander in space
i liked it but also disliked how massive battles with tens of thousands of people dying that were happening over long periods of time weren't ever shown
>>71697153
This board is for television and film, child. No cartoons. >>>/a/ is where you meant to post this.
>>71697153
It's a great anine that happens to not belong on this board as it is neither television nor film.
>>71697266
>i liked it but also disliked how massive battles with tens of thousands of people dying that were happening over long periods of time weren't ever shown
There's only so many times you can see "crew members running around panicking before an explosion"
it's worth watching just for Bittenfeld's antics
>>71697153
I remember watching this when i was a kid,national TV for some reason thought it was great show and aired it even though they never aired again any other jap series.
Never finished it so might as well do it now.
Thanks for reminding me op.
Also here it was called "Horsemen Blade and the Star sheriffs".
This is in eastern europe ~20 years ago
At time it can be a bit silly, with formation arrangements for example (WOW I NEVER EXPECTED HE WOULD ORDER HIS SHIPS INTO A RECTANGLE FORMATION), but it's great overall, has interesting characters and so on
it ruined all other anime for me desu
Who would you cast in the live action movie?
>Reinhard - Young Leonardo DiCaprio
>Mittermeyer - Owen Wilson
>Reuenthal - Ben Stiller
>Schenkopp - George Clooney
>>71697304
>Horsemen Blade and the Star sheriffs
What?
>>71697153
/pol/ likes it which is a pit off for me. /pol/ media is fedora tier
>>71697330
you might enjoy azu manga diaoh
the pinnacle of japanese germabooism
>>71697330
there's this anime where there's 1 boy and a bunch of girls and all of the girls love the boy and every episode some lewd things happen
i think you would like it
>>71697153
Not a milestone in human achievement but some of the best space opera you'll see on tv.
>>71697240
>extremely homoerotic
I bet you've never even heard of Legend of the Blue Wolves you pleb.
>incredibly high brow
It's very solid but too much of it is flat to be great. It's handles politics and war far more gracefully than the shitfest that Game of Thrones has devolved into but that isn't saying too much at this point. It's no War & Peace but for tv it's about as good as you'll get.
>>71697368
>i don't like thing because group of people I've assigned attributes to likes thing
stay spooked. I bet you also don't like vaporwave because it came from tumblr you fag.
How many eps should I give it before deciding it is not for me? I'm like 2 episodes in and finding it dry, too many characters are being introduced all at once
>>71697474
Try 10
>>71697474
about 109 episodes
>>71697474
Did you watch the movie first? I think that My Conquest is the Sea of Stars and Overture to a New War are a much better introduction to the show that the first few episodes.
And maybe give yourself ten episodes or so, if things are kind of falling together but you still don't give a shit maybe it's just not your thing. I personally think that the show well and truly picks up before 20 episodes pass so if you don't care by then you probably won't really get into it.
I was digging it from the first movie but it's kind of unconventional and it can feel like your out of the loop for a fair while.
>>71697441
>it's no War and Peace but for tv it's about as good as you can get
Ahem.
>>71697231
if saving private ryan is mediocre what do you consider a good movie of the same genre?
>>71697521
Oh yeah, I've never actually watched a tv adaption of War & Peace before. Is the guy on the left with the glasses meant to be Pierre?
I watched the first two episodes and they were objectively awful. Couldn't keep watching any further.
>>71697153
Literally perfect
>>71697513
I've got the same prob with every other show that tries to introduce a shitton of characters and relationships from the get go, like Game of Thrones. I've heard good talk about the movie so maybe I'll try that first
>>71697280
>This board is for television and film
>television
>>71697441
I actually think vaporwavehas some good songs like all genres of music
Is it from Tumblr though? Didn't know that. Aren't autistic fan bases usually a massive red flag like MLP, Sonic and Steven Universe?
>>71697589
Yeah. I was joshing you, I actually love LotGH. Anyway I don't know about the novel, but the BBC series is excellent. I dunno if they got it all in 8 episodes though.
>>71697357
>What?
Mixed it up with another series on different tv station.
My mistake,it was so long ago.
>>71697623
Fucking brutal
>>71697630
The show should try to make the core elements of the story clearer from the get-go. The movies probably help here but I get what you mean and it can be a while before it's obvious.
If you just focus on the blonde guy in the fancy black uniform and the blue/black haired guy with the hat you should be fine. The rest comes together eventually.
>>71697698
Autistic fanbases can be a red flag sometimes but if you go out of your way not to enjoy things certain people like you are spookimus maximus.
>>71697280
LotGH is not a cartoon.
>>71697330
It didn't ruin all other anime for you. You just don't really like anime.
>>71697745
>It didn't ruin all other anime for you. You just don't really like anime.
This. LOGH is considered an anime for people who don't like anime, because it doesn't have that many anime tropes
>>71697265
If you're looking for anime that aren't very anime, I recommend Monster. It drags a bit at the start but I'm sure you'll like it
>>71697153
first fucking /his/ and now /tv/?
are LoGHfags the most autistic weeaboos in the universe?
>>71698156
>just watching anime makes you a weeaboo
Ebin meme.
Besides, LOGH is an anime that weeaboos are unlikely to like since its so western
>>71697330
I find it daft that they've been at war for 140 years, yet haven't found a better way to control their fleets. Like shit even Yang relied on another commander to organise his fleet.
>>71698274
Why are semi-circles superior?
>>71698274
OH WOW THANKS FOR THE SPOILER GEEZ
>>71697550
hes literally trolling so you will never get an answer
>>71697153
It's a meme but it isnt bad.
It's good as a filler when you're eating or doing some chore.
It isnt dumb like many other animushits, but it can be boring
>>71697745
>>71697778
Anime goes in >>>/a/. Fuck off.
Leave space kino to me
>>71699550
There's no reason why there can't be some amount of anime on /tv/. Anime is TV and cinema, and some anime is of relevance to people other than anime fans (almost every anime thread here is like that).
>>71699580
>cartoon for little kids
>kino
You tried.
There's 2 reasons LOGH is shilled so much
One, the average quality of anime is rock bottom, despite this, weeaboos continue to watch most anime. LOGH is slightly better anime, even though it's still shit like all anime, so when weebs watch LOGH they're stunned and awed by it, and start praising it. 'A smart anime for smart people' is what they think.
Second, weebs are like tumblrinas, they desperately seek validation, but they're autists so despite this they act like cunts to nonweebs and new people. LOGH is one of the animes weebs try to use to shill anime to nonweebs and try to make them think that not all anime is shit, that anime is worthwhile, etc.
So basically, LOGH is the animu for weebs seeking 'smartweebcred' and validation from nonweebs. Atleast the screencaps they take are amusing.
Also >>>/a/
>>71697240
>it's extremely homoerotic
What do you mean?
>>71697153
>Not a single woman or POC in the picture
Really makes you hmmm
>>71697304
>Horsemen Blade and the Star sheriffs
Saber Rider?
>>71699631
LoGH isn't a cartoon and wasn't made for children.
>>71699662
>One, the average quality of anime is rock bottom
Meaning what, exactly?
>>71699711
yes i got mixed up.
But this show did run,my memory was just fuzzy.
>>71699733
meaning SHIT, dumb weeaboo
>>71699748
In what way? And how am I a weeaboo?
>>71699747
That show was awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awxKPdqLHGE
>>71699631
Are you George Lucas? Because this sure looks like something small children would enjoy >>71697623
>>71698379
You envelop the opposing side hitting them from 3 sides. It's less of a semi circle and more the center collapses in and the flanks move out if memory of the show is correct.
Yang is a genius because he realizes space is 3D pretty much, it's a new revolutionary idea and he's the first to come up with it.
And thats the biggest problem with LoGH, everyone is basically retarded and Yang gets handicapped in the most asspull waysto make sure he is defeated.
For example, when the Free Planets go on the offensive, who do they trust, Yang Wenli? The greatest tactical mind to ever live, or some fucking retard who's plan is so stupid a child could poke holes in it?
Or when Yang is needed on the front lines, suddenly the Free Planets grab him and interrogate him for fucking no reason while the front line falls to shreds, shit like this keeps happening.
Also LoGH is misogynistic as all living fuck, but it's 80s and Japan so that is to be expected.
Remember, if you're a woman and you're a highly decorated officer with years of combat experience, Sandwiches are the only thing you are good at doing. And if you are a woman who's tactical geniusWINS THE ENTIRE FUCKING WAR, why didn't you just stay at home and learn knitting like a real woman is supposed too?
>>71697521
What a classic show.
Legend of the Galactic Harem
>>71699662
Wow, really makes you think
>>71699999
checked
>>71699920
>Also LoGH is misogynistic as all living fuck
Aren't most of the female characters extremely competent and often more competent than men?
>>71699999
nice numbers
>>71699920
>Remember, if you're a woman and you're a highly decorated officer with years of combat experience, Sandwiches are the only thing you are good at doing
Did you even watch the show? That quote is taken out of context. Fredrika mentions "sandwichs are the only thing I'm good at making" to highlight how she's not a housewife but a strong independent womyn
>>71700077
Yeah, pretty much.
>>71697745
>LotGH is not a cartoon.
Not even the guy telling you to go to /a/, but anime ARE cartoons, you dumb weeaboo.
>>71699920
I think one of the points the show makes is that both systems are corrupted and full of either unqualified or completely egoistical people.
Not to mention the politicians in the Alliance are afraid of losing influence. That's why they started an offensive in the hopes of increasing their chances to be reelected. They were also afraid that Yang might start a coup d'etat, which is why they interrogated him in the first place.
Call me a faggot, but I liked the politics and it all didn't seem too unrealistic for me.
>>71699920
>Also LoGH is misogynistic as all living fuck, but it's 80s and Japan so that is to be expected.
Anime isn't a replica of Japanese society.
>>71700129
Anime and cartoons are completely different and have virtually nothing in common.
>>71697153
Why ask? No-one on /tv/'s seen it.
>>71700142
>the politics didn't seem too unrealistic for me
well that's to be expected ssince they're carbon copies of what happens in every "democracy" worldwide.
>>>/pol/
>>71700149
>things made in different countries have different styles
No shit, Sherlock.
Cartoon = animated drawing. Anime = cartoon from Japan. That's all those words mean, they're not a fucking badge of quality. Not all cartoons are anime, but all anime are cartoons.
Also, fun fact. In Japan, they use the word anime for any cartoon regardless of origin. There's plenty of "favorite anime" Japanese lists that include Tom and Jerry.
>>71700289
/pol/ btfo
Anybody has the chart of how to start with this series?
>>71700242
It's not just a simple stylistic difference. Everything about anime and cartoons is different. Their most fundamental assumptions about animation are different.
>Cartoon = animated drawing.
No. Cartoons are a particular kind of animation.
>Also, fun fact. In Japan, they use the word anime for any cartoon regardless of origin.
Fun fact: this is a semantic argument that doesn't mean anything. And even in Japan there are people who consider anime to be a particular kind of animation.
>>71700325
>>71700483
is Golden Wings worth checking out?
>>71697153
It's pretty much the quintessential space opera between a crumbling democratic superstate and a (eventually) benevolent empire.
Yang Wenli is an aspiring historian that finds himself elevated to Robert E. Lee/Hannibal levels of stature through his strategic genius in battle. He is both the greatest advocate of democracy as well as its greatest critic and assembles a rebel alliance like cast around him in his fight against the Galactic Empire.
Reinhard on the other hand is the perfect statesman somewhat comparable today to someone like Vladimir Putin who revitalizes a decadent empire into a totalitarian state that able to balance benevolence towards it people while maintaining societal order.
It's important to stress the opera in space opera. While it has engaging battles it's far more concerned with the romantic but conflicting philosophies of its large cast.
>>71700406
>No. Cartoons are a particular kind of animation.
>[citation needed]
Ok, so what do you call animated drawings that are neither cartoons nor from Japan?
>>71700567
These are cartoons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM1DgihKHVI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YjpAQJirI8
They are not equivalent to any and all animation. Anime doesn't look anything like them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5CV71SD1s
>Ok, so what do you call animated drawings that are neither cartoons nor from Japan?
Animation. Are you being serious?
>>71700505
Unless you want to see Iserlohn Fortress depicted as an actual Death Star and all the fighters turned into X-wing and TIE fighter rip-offs then no.
>>71697153
>So is this actually a good series or just a meme?
what do you mean by "meme"?
>>71700622
The funny part is that you talk about anime being a "style", whereas in truth there's not a single all-encompassing Japanese animation style. Or would you argue that things like Panty & Stocking and Kill la Kill are cartoons? And the same way, I suppose Legend of Korra is an anime, right?
>>71699662
>Second reason why weebs like shilling LotGH so much
>It's because weebs like shilling LotGH so much
Noice
It's stupid, childish and too long. Don't listen to anyone who compares it to War and Peace, they are probably underage.
>>71700666
I specifically said that it's not just a simple stylistic difference, and these one or two outliers that people always post don't prove anything (Kill la Kill is not one of them however).
Anime is much, much more than character design. For example, the highly cinematic style of filmmaking in that anime clip is completely different from cartoon animation.
>>71700622
Not that anime hating dude but you're a faggot.
Anime = アニメ which comes from アニメション = animation. This is no interpretation here, the katakana is phonetically used to write engrish.
anime already means animations, obviously it's about animated drawings (like in french: dessins animés), chances are the ethymology of cartoon would lead you to the same definitions.
cartoon = anime
you say anime for convenience sake of not having to say "japanese animation" but that's it, they're cartoons, period.
>>71698212
> since its so western
thank fuck. 95% of anime is trash.
>>71700731
I know exactly where the word comes from and I never said or implied anime isn't short for animation.
You are making a semantic argument by claiming that two things are the same because they are called by the same name, ergo Mickey Mouse is anime if a Japanese person calls it that. And I guess Japanese flowers spew out water since hana means flower in Japanese and tap in Finnish.
The animation that we refer to as anime is a specific animation style, movement or system or whatever you want to call it. It has numerou features common and unique to it that can be traced back to Astro Boy in 1963.
Cartoons are another kind of animation.
>>71700771
It's not really western, though.
>>71698138
I second this for anyone itt.
Ghost in the Shell movie and series are another one
Patlabor movies
Cowboy Bebop, if by some weird turn of events you haven't watched it yet
>>71700832
And you're making an """""argument""""" of cartoon not being an all encompassing term because you say so.
>>71700771
Meme.
>>71700832
>You are making a semantic argument
No you, I came here to tell you it was retarded to argue about semantics here because everything you're talking about is animation, what changes is where it comes from.
The techniques are the same as well. Characters are drawn in frames and brackgrounds are panned. And now they share the same kind of CGI as well.
You're just asspained glorious nippon culture could be compared to filthy western kiddy shows.
>>71700876
The Patlabor movies 2 & 3. Way too derivative from the rest.
>>71700930
anime is for manchild degenerates.
overrated shit
>>71700960
I cant stand anime because of the tropes and cliches but the animation and detail is superior to western animation. Look at how shit the animation and detail is in all these Marvel and DC animated features of the past few years. The only animated western cartoons I can think of that could slightly compare is Spawn and The Max.
>>71701126
>superior to Western animation
Not really.
>>71700960
>>71701126
Meant that I hated the Patlabor movies 2 & 3.
Transforming my comical buddy-cops series into edgy horror drama, no fuck you.
>>71700927
Look at the Wikipedia articles for American animation, anime, Disney, Ghibli, Comics, and manga. You will see very pronounced differences in how much the word cartoon is used and in what ways.
And consider that we're even arguing about this. If cartoon and animation were simply synonyms and nothing more, why would we be talking about this? Then consider how often people make arguments like "you're just ashamed to admit you watch cartoons" or "you just want to pretend anime is something greater than cartoons." Enemies of anime also go out of their way to call it cartoons and children's cartoons, rather than animation or Japanese animation. Why would people say these things if cartoon just means animation? Why are there derisive terms like "cartoon villain"? Clearly there is something shameful and inferior associated with the word, and it cannot be just a synonym for animation.
When Americans developed their animation, it was called cartoons. But it was a certain kind of animation they were making, and it was that certain kind of animation that "cartoon" came to be associated with.
>>71700944
Two things being animation doesn't make them the same. Cartoons and anime have nearly nothing in common.
>The techniques are the same as well.
Cartoons and anime have very different animation and filmmaking styles. In cartoons what you typically see is characters moving left and right in a flat world that may as well be a stage and a matte painting. There's emphasis on exaggerated, rubbery and "expressive" motion and character acting, and the animation is high framerate, fluid and consistent.
Anime uses the same kind of filmmaking techniques as cinema, and the animation is more limited, restrained and realistic but also more varied and detailed. The motion is very different.
>You're just asspained glorious nippon culture could be compared to filthy western kiddy shows.
This is what I mean. Cartoon isn't just another word for animation.
>>71697357
If we take current actors, at current age:
Reinhard: Dane Dehaan
Kircheis: Jesse Plemons, no clue sadly?
Oberstein: Tom Hiddleston
Mittermeyer: Chris Pratt
Reuenthal: Mads Mikkelsen
Schenkopp: Josh Brolin
No Clue for Yang, Julian and the rest of the alliance.
>>71698138
Monster is legitimately overrated shit though. You can watch it, but it's one of those things that people recommend because it appears to be mature more so than it actually is. There are other animes I'd recommend far over it.
>>71701018
Meme.
>>71701179
Yes, really. Largely, the only thing Western animation has going for it is a higher framerate and more fluidness.
>>71701179
Modern western animation? Absolutely, I don't see how you could argue anything compares. Pinocchio and Fleischer shorts are still the high watermark of animation in this hemisphere.
>>71701179
prove me wrong
>pro-tip: you can't
>>71701264
Western animation is way more influential.
>>71701343
That's probably true, but also irrelevant.
>>71701319
Name modern anime that is better than Inside Out or Zootopia.
>my cartoon isn't a cartoon because I say so
Is there a more pretentious population group than weebs?
>>71701366
Inside Out and Zootopia are 3D animation.
>>71701423
See >>71701220
>>71701366
Monogatari series.
Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199.
>>71697428
Is this that one anime where each of the girls have a distinct personality trait and the boy is embarrassed every time something romantic happens?
>>71701432
>Monogatari series
Utter garbage.
>Yamato 2199
Haven't seen.
>>71697153
It's shit. Watch Mr. Pickles instead.
>>71697266
It was actually millions, and sometimes hundreds of millions. It is very difficult to scale that.
>>71701220
Another thing: I recently saw the trailer for Cannon Busters, and I thought the animation looked very Japanese. I looked it up on their Kickstarter page, and it's being produced at a Japanese studio. I have also often seen animation from American shows made in the 80s and early 90s, figured they were animated in Japan, and then confirmed on IMDB that that's indeed the case.
There's clearly some differences there.
>>71701195
Yeah but 2 had one of the best tension building scenes of all time
https://youtu.be/XHpzlBMfaeY
Also, did you not see the last few episodes of the original OVA? The ambiance of the movies are pretty in-line with those
>>71701890
There was a significant thread about this on /co/ a while back. I'll see if I can find it.
>>71697357
Reinhard has sharp features and pale skin. Leo looks like a tomato.
>>71702303
2 is where things really started going downhill with forced drama, 3 is where shit hits the fan so hard they every discarded everything that had done the series.
Sure the OVA series was much more "realistic" than the original series, as in darker, but it was still a buddy-cops series at heart much like the 1st lethal weapons (including its most darker moment) but with a bigger cast and about the same amount of humour.
>>71697153
I don't understand. Memes are good.
>>71699920
But who are these talented female officers? Because Frederika couldn't even fight. All she did was help Yang with paper work. You're also ignoring the female fighter pilot and other women fighting in the FPA military.
>>71702407
>original series
You realise the OVA came out BEFORE the show, right anon?
The TV show was the odd one out, thoufg still fucking great of course
>>71697153
It's fantastic.
>>71700505
The first few minutes to see Reinhard's mom dying otherwise no.
>>71697295
>be ordered not attack
>enemy sets obvious trap
>attack
>get trapped
>ally comes to help
>ally dies
>escape
>don't get punished
Worst girl.
>>71702628
NEVER FORGET FAHRENHEIT!
>>71701432
>monogatari
Fuck off with your haremshitwaifufag.
>>71702736
Monogatari isn't really a harem series and it's about a lot more than your waifufaggotry strawmen.
>>71703396
yeah, it's also about incest.
>>71703434
A minor comedy element.
There are several story arcs where the main character doesn't show up or only makes brief appearances, and arcs with no fanservice in them. Monogatari is a lot of things.
>>71703434
#rekt
>>71703588
I was half joking, incest is actually one of my favourite part of this series.
>>71703611
I'm not. Moe is cancer.
>>71703629
Why is it cancer?
Where can I watch this in good quality?
>>71703651
It's degenerate. The Monogatari brand uses fantasies of pedophilia and incest to sell dolls and bodypillows to an increasingly emasculated male population. Shows like LoGH have themes like honor and heroism. The fact that moe cancer such a large portion of anime "culture" is a huge sign that our society has degraded. Censorship laws were keeping our civilization together.
>>71703651
It panders to the lowest common denominator, otaku neets who like watching ute girls doing cute things.
>>71697153
It's bretty good
>>71703810
>It's degenerate
Not a criticism.
>>71700242
I remember swing something on either /a/ or /m/ where the NGE creator said that Tom and Jerry woulkd be top 10 for his favorite anime list.
>>71703885
He literally explained why it's degenerate the sentence after you fucking moron.
>>71703926
"It's degenerate" is not a criticism whether you explain the statement or not.
>>71697153
I'll check it out after I finish Dougram probably. LOGH kind of gives me a Gundam '79 feeling, which would be my favorite weebtoon.
>>71703959
wtf...
>>71703810
>>71703813
Moe means a feeling of love or infatuation towards a fictional character. It doesn't say anywhere what the character should be like or what the anime she (or he) appears in should be like. It can happen anywhere.
Shows that could be called moe anime have no fanservice or almost none.
>The Monogatari brand uses fantasies of pedophilia and incest to sell dolls and bodypillows to an increasingly emasculated male population.
Those fantasies exist in anime, not in the real world. You should be more concerned with people who watch live action rape scenes for entertainment, but of course you aren't because somehow anything and everything is ok as long as it's live action.
Monogatari doesn't "use" those fantasies to sell anything. It's a light novel series to begin with, and the fanservice is only a small part of the series. Shows that are very heavy on fanservice don't even sell that much.
>Shows like LoGH have themes like honor and heroism.
So does Strike Witches.
>It panders to the lowest common denominator, otaku neets who like watching cute girls doing cute things.
A moe anime isn't necessarily cute girls doing cute things, which is a mischaracterization anyway. And moe anime isn't even the most popular anime, so it's hardly the lowest common denominator.
>>71704090
You should know that saying your sex fantasies exist "in anime" only makes you sound more pathetic.
>>71697153
180 episodes worth of politics.
If you liked Babylon 5 and Deep Space 9 you'll like LOGH too.
>>71704163
If someone has pedophilic and incestual fantasies in real life, they're degenerate. If they only have them in anime, they're pathetic. How convinient.
>>71703984
>Gundam 0079
They have some similarities, yes.
The main differences are
>a massively increased emphasis on space politics
>Tacticians instead of pilots as MCs
>Multiple MCs, on different sides of the fight
>No Char
>No mechs
>Space terror...err i mean Terraists
>>71704163
> debating who is more pathetic on 4chan
>>71698274
'Hole up
This isn't actually as crazy as you'd think, and definitely not at the scale of fleet sizes in LoGH
It's a throw back to napoleonic era naval warfare where organizing the line of battle was excruciatingly difficult to keep organized. Commanders who could organize their fleets (Nelson) could perform amazingly with lesser fleets against a superior foe who just happens to be slightly more disorganized.
It was a nightmare keeping a few dozen ships in a proper battle line, imagine how absurd it would be to keep several thousand mile long capital ships in close formation while still remaining agile. That's why Yang was so good, he could actually pull that off.
>>71704225
I like how you think you're trapped in some unfair dilemma, where both possible outlets for your pedo tendencies tendencies are denied to you, making you the victim here.
>>71704356
This. Plus the semi circle usually slightly enveloped the enemy fleet, thus exposing more of their flank to your fire, which is objectively superior.
>>71704506
I don't have any pedo tendencies. Did you mean to reply to someone else?
I always have trouble committing to long shows, anime or not.
Especially dialogue driven shows. I don't speak moon so I can't do stuff on my other monitor without pausing or having to rewind because I hate missing dialogue.
>>71705176
You have adhd
>>71703926
>>71704080
Oh god, do I really need to spell it out for you? I'm not questioning the veracity of the statement "this is degenerate", you might even be right for all I care. I'm just saying it's a completely irrelevant point towards its value as a work of fiction.
>>71705176
>he doesn't give shows his full attention
Could you be any more casual?
>>71699920
>Yang is a genius because he realizes space is 3D pretty much, it's a new revolutionary idea and he's the first to come up with it.
Except we see everyone else using 3D movement as well.
>everyone is basically retarded and Yang gets handicapped in the most asspull ways
Yang does get handicapped, but it happens only a couple times.
>or some fucking retard who's plan is so stupid a child could poke holes in it?
Yeah man, because the army let alone the army of a corrupt nation is impervious to politics and also armies always make good leadership decisions! That's why for example in Vietnam junior babbies straight out of camp never replaced hardened officers with weeks or months of experience.
>Also LoGH is misogynistic as all living fuck,
No.
The real problems with LoGH:
-not taking a proper stand about whether war is terrible or not
-dude earth cult lmao *tip fedore*
-retarded 1 man army battles
-JULIAN
>>71705176
Let me guess, you were born in the 90's?
>>71700406
>And even in Japan there are people who consider anime to be a particular kind of animation.
I'd like to see some citations for that. Pretty much every person I talked to about anime in Japan (and I talked to many) simply understood it as cartoons made in Japan. The most telling thing is that when talking about anime on an international scale, they always used the term "nihon no anime", never just "anime".
>>71706148
Miyazaki doesn't want his movies to be called anime. There was also someone else in the anime industry (Miyazaki's generation probably) who made a similar distinction. I read it in a book but I can't remember who it was.
>Pretty much every person I talked to about anime in Japan (and I talked to many) simply understood it as cartoons made in Japan.
And they were wrong.
>The most telling thing is that when talking about anime on an international scale, they always used the term "nihon no anime", never just "anime".
Nihon no anime means Japanese animation, literally. It has nothing to do with cartoons.
>>71706362
You really have a grip with "cartoons". Did Buggs Bunny rape you in your youth?
>>71706563
What are you talking about?
>>71706362
>Japanese, who live in the country anime is made and breathe the culture surrounding anime, are wrong
>Me, a Westerner on mongolian tapestry board who watches anime on stream, am correct
I've spoken to people of different generations, by the way. Not just young people. They all consider anime as Japanese cartoons.
Or alternatively, you can say that animation and cartoons are different things, and that they admit the existence of non-Japanese anime (and that every cartoon falls under this category, like American anime for Disney). Whatever floats your boat, but literally nobody considers anime as a separate kind of animation over there. Deal with it.
>muh Miyazaki
I like him but his pretensions are not important. In one interview Coppola said "my film is not a movie" about Apocalyspe Now, that doesn't mean the kino meme is confirmed.
>>71706672
>Japanese, who live in the country anime is made and breathe the culture surrounding anime, are wrong
>literally nobody considers anime as a separate kind of animation over ther
If a Japanese person claims that anime and cartoons are the same thing, he is wrong. It makes absolutely no difference that anime is made in the country he was born in. He is still wrong. You are merely trying to appeal to a perceived authority because you have no means of arguing anything else.
>I like him but his pretensions are not important.
I didn't say they are. I just pointed out that not everyone in Japan considers anime to be just short for animation.
>>71697550
Band of Brothers had the same visceral quality but tge story and characters were much better. Spielberg produced but did not direct.
>>71706772
>If a Japanese person claims that anime and cartoons are the same thing, he is wrong
You got any facts to back that up? I at least have an argument that is completely factual and solid, not concerned with some retarded theory about how somehow cartoons made in Japan don't count as cartoons.
>muh appeal to authority
I did that because you claimed that "in Japan there are people who consider anime to be a particular kind of animation". I asked you for proof. You didn't give any.
>I just pointed out that not everyone in Japan considers anime to be just short for animation.
And if you read my post carefully you'd understand that the Japanese don't give a fuck, what they call anime applies to what we call anime as well as what we call cartoons. Either you concede to the anime umbrella term, or to the fact that for them cartoons are simply American anime. Or you give me some facts.
>>71706937
I already explained here: >>71701220 and here >>71701890.
>I did that because you claimed that "in Japan there are people who consider anime to be a particular kind of animation"
That was in response to:
>Also, fun fact. In Japan, they use the word anime for any cartoon regardless of origin.
>I asked you for proof. You didn't give any.
I mentioned Miyazaki and you agreed that he said that.
>Either you concede to the anime umbrella term, or to the fact that for them cartoons are simply American anime.
Of course cartoons are American anime if you're using anime as shorthand for animation. Cartoons are American animation, yes.
But we don't use anime the same way they do, and the animation that we call anime (Sailor Moon, Evangelion, whatever) is a specific kind of animation that's different from other animation even if the Japanese have no name for it.
Dropped it on episode 44, good premise but like everyone said, not entertaining, no dramatic value
>>71707164
>But we don't use anime the same way they do, and the animation that we call anime (Sailor Moon, Evangelion, whatever) is a specific kind of animation that's different from other animation even if the Japanese have no name for it.
About this I agree 100%, but my point from the beginning was about how the Japanese don't make that "anime is special and is Japanese" distinction (except Miyazaki and a very tiny minority maybe, as you say) and that the other anon was right about that. I wasn't talking about how the English speaking world uses the term.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
>>71699920
>Also LoGH is misogynistic as all living fuck,
At the end of the show Hilda is the most powerful person in the galaxy and she was consistently shown as a smart competent person.
>>71700149
>Anime and cartoons are completely different and have virtually nothing in common.
But they're literally the same thing
>>71699999
>>71707490
Can you explain what you think they have in common?
>>71707558
In English it's used to differentiate cartoons from different countries but they're both cartoons at the end of the day. Like Koreans use "manwha" for cartoons and comics.
I don't see the point in differentiating them.
>>71707622
This is a cartoon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dihJ1w48Jh0
This is anime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5CV71SD1s
How would you say that they are the same?
Or how about these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YjpAQJirI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR1cMPnMcaY
>>71697153
the best book adaptation in media.
very paced.
>>71707740
>How would you say that they are the same?
They're both animated drawings with sound and music? I really don't see your point, just because two works have different styles or genres it doesn't make them a different medium.
>>71706198
Fug off cuk. You just mad this show doesn't have cuking.
>anime
pls based straya spam this shit into oblivion with cuck porn
>>71707891
>They're both animated drawings with sound and music?
When that's the ONLY thing they have in common, it means they have practically nothing in common. It's like saying a bicycle and a truck are the same thing because they've both got wheels and a steering mechanism.
>>71697521
Stopped watching when glasses guy started talking like a commie.
It's pretty good.
>>71707958
But Pierre is a commie you pleb, he is aDecembristby the end of the novel
so /tv/ has become /a/?
>>71707940
But you could say the same things about novels or movies. The fact they're both animated are a DISTINCT characteristics that separates them from other form of art.
And how are they not similar? The narrative structure? The level of realism? There's a bunch of western animation that isn't "cartoony", one I can think of is Chico and Rita.
>>71708084
No, it has become /v/
But this is a nice thread about a good show for a change.
>>71708084
Has Europe become the Middle East?
Yes.
>>71697521
It's a piece of crap
Bunch of Russians acting like British
give a me fucking break the books even go muh slava russkie spirit which is a big part of it
>>71708112
>a good show
>>71707740
>>71707940
Let me guess, you also take seriously the movie-flick-kino meme?
>>71708093
Cartoons are shorts with simple self-contained stories. They are based on exaggerated physical comedy, singing and dancing. They often feature anthropomorphic animals and living objects. I already described their filmmaking style and how it's vastly different than anime. Their music style is completely different:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrjxtNYhTCc (this isn't even the most representative example, but close enough)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TawN_4icG_g
The character designs and animation are completely and fundamentally different. The editing, sound design and voice acting are different. The backgrounds are different. What the stories are about and how they're told are different. The culture, language and societies are different. Everything is different.
Even today's shows like Steven Universe are still heavily rooted in cartoon animation.
>>71708213
No, and that has nothing to do with this. It's not even remotely the same thing. It's just a meme that doesn't mean anything.
>>71708182
>>71708215
>>71708237
>>71708286
>>71708331
Here comes the damage control. The narrative is endangered and now it's time to shut it down.
>>71697153
Why did it rip fighter pilot suit design off from Star Wars?
>>71708332
>Cartoons are shorts with simple self-contained stories. They are based on exaggerated physical comedy, singing and dancing. They often feature anthropomorphic animals and living objects
You know how big the animation industry in Japan is? The shit that gets fansubbed and viewed by Western online communities isn't representative of the whole industry.
They have a shit ton of family shows that are exactly what you described that just isn't known to the Western audiences.
Again, you're generalizing both industries, cherry picking evidence that support your dumb claim.
>>71708364
It's exactly the same thing, an arbitrary distinction for two things that are the same medium, based on such subjective criteria as quality or "style".
>>71708332
>They are based on exaggerated physical comedy, singing and dancing. They often feature anthropomorphic animals and living objects.
I could name plenty of anime with all of those.
>>71708453
Virtually every show that isn't something inconsequential for little kids gets simulcast streamed these days, and even as far as old anime goes it's pretty rare to find stuff that has no subs.
>They have a shit ton of family shows that are exactly what you described that just isn't known to the Western audiences.
They constitute a tiny minority of Japanese animation.
>Again, you're generalizing both industries, cherry picking evidence that support your dumb claim.
No, you're just grasping at straws by bringing up irrelevant outliers.
Cartoons and anime are fundamentally radically different from each other. The closest equivalent to anime is live action cinema. Are you going to tell me Popeye is the same as Apocalypse Now next?
>>71708464
They are nothing alike. Everything about them is completely different. It goes far, far beyond simple stylistic differences.There is no basis for claiming they're the same thing. None.
>>71708495
Uh huh.
If only Kircheis were here.
>>71708605
>>71708605
If only
>>71708555
>Cartoons and anime are fundamentally radically different from each other.
No they are not, the Western and Japanese industries may be radically different in terms of demographic I give you that, which leads to different sorts of shows, but fundamentally they're both just animated pictures.
>>71708703
>>71708752
ABSOLUTE MADMEN
>>71708605
Oh, what would he do then, jerk off to cuck porn like the cuck he is? Kek.
>>71708762
>fundamentally they're both just animated pictures
Nobody said they aren't, but if that's the only similarity they have (and it is), then they aren't the same thing at all. There are so many, many things that make up an animated short, TV series or movie.
These are completely different from each other:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOGhAV-84iI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhHoCnRg1Yw
Japanese Animation is shit these days because the OVA format pretty much collapsed in the 90s. Back in those days there were still a lot of great material of running manga's which had not been adapted. These days they are so desperate they adapt Light Novels which are the equivalent of MC Donalds Books
Not even kidding you
>>71708845
He probably had a more intimate relationship with Reinhard than Reinhard had with his wife.
>>71708898
You're not convincing anyone by cherrypicking shit. Yeah we know that animation in the West is generally targeted towards kids and all but there are also examples, mostly in movies and french animation, that contradict your point.
And all you've been showing me is that japanese animation is pretty low budgeted compared to the west.
>>71697153
Probably the best anime i've ever seen.
>>71708898
>Nobody said they aren't, but if that's the only similarity they have (and it is), then they aren't the same thing at all
There's a shitton of live action movies which have nothing in common other than being people on camera and the approximate running time, and yet we don't go around making up new names for them.
>>71707308
>Kircheis dies
>no dramatic value
>>71708957
Light novels, like anything else, can be good or bad. Manga isn't any different.
>>71709010
I am not cherrypicking anything. I am giving representative examples and describing the fundamental differences between cartoons and anime.
>And all you've been showing me is that japanese animation is pretty low budgeted compared to the west.
High budget:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtWeUNGdm54
Low budget:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92cesUa9ORc#t=0m56s
I'm not even kidding. Family Guy is much, much more expensive. More... high budget.
>>71709049
Cinema also has well-established conventions and is very different compared to cartoons or the earliest films.
Anime is so preposterously different from other forms of animation in so many ways that it's only right that it has its own name.
>>71708992
That's exactly what makes him a cuck. Also a fag.
>>71709189
That's true.
>>71709114
>Light novels, like anything else, can be good or bad. Manga isn't any different.
Yeah but on average Light Novel is the biggest piece of shit I have ever read in my entire life.
If I randomly pick some manga I might find something solid, in the realm of Light Novel it's I died and resurrected in magical world #999999999999 the plot plays out literally the same fucking way
Oh I got some cash il buy some slave/servant which is usually some cat girl/mutt or whatever and then we have the rest which is battle harem garbage #9999
>>71709237
Light novels are a meme. People have meltdowns over them because they just "know" they're bad and everyone agrees they're bad. They don't even watch any LN shows, because they already "know."
>I died and resurrected in magical world #999999999999 the plot plays out literally the same fucking way
Except Re:Zero, Konosuba, Overlord and Grimgar are nothing like each other even though they use that same basic premise.
>>71709302
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
blacked.com
>>71709369
Yes, that's my browser start page.
>>71700553
Reinhard would hate Putin..
>>71709392
dimi thats you?
>>71709302
I am completely serious no shit posting bullshit read about 7 light novels that played out exactly that way
I started getting confused and mixing them up I was not even sure which ones I have read and not it felt as if I could just randomly jump into volume 8 and understand what is going on.
>>71709408
Why? Putin booted the Bolsheviks by slowly raising in power from the inside.
Reinhard is essentially Putin except tall, pretty and with hair instead of small bald and muscular.
>>71709456
what aobut some BBC boi?
Some of these are pretty hot desu
>>71709536
Tony Blair could use some extra time on the BBC stage today.
>>71709456
Just because their basic premise is the same doesn't mean they're the same.
Re:Zero is about a guy who is transported to a fantasy world, and every time he dies he's resurrected at an earlier point in time, and that's what drives the story. Konosuba is a comedy about misfits trying to be adventurers (the main character is in a fantasy world after dying on Earth). Grimgar is a serious, semi-realistic and rather artistically done story about people struggling to survive (it's not explained what exactly the setting is and where the characters are from and why they're there).
>>71699847
It's fun for the whole family.
>>71700289
>>71700324
The irony is he dies in his early 20's due to a rare genetic disease
>>71701235
>>71697357
Yang
>spamming LotGH thread with cuck shit
why not literally any other thread
>>71709693
>>71709658
>>71709637
>>71709605
jesus
>>71709706
this so hard
also what the fuck are the mods doing
>>71709723
like it boi?
>>71709696
Not cute enough. Yang a cute. A cute!
>>71699677
why are americans so insecure
i'm a sissyslut for the bbc
>>71700324
I mean, if you can't tell Africans are of lesser intelligence you might be retarded
I guess it's impressive in a way that someone has amassed this many webms just so he can flood a thread with them.
>>71709706
Ironic, isn't it?
Cuck shit or 'Nazi punks fuck off' are literally the best things you could spam it with.
>>71709835
Why are space nazis so gay?
>>71709870
What a guy eh?
>>71709838
>sissyslut for the bbc
Someone needs to write a fic where Reinhard is this. Then post it in every LoGH thread. This will teach these LoGH fags not to spam /tv/
any advice on prep my bull?
>>71709685
>dies in his early 20's
Wut. I thought he was this in the 1st season.
Then how old was he at the beginning of the show? Was he underage?
you should be spamming /got/ with this shit they are the real cancer here, not an occasional anime thread
>>71710054
Show Reinhard fanart to him and say it's a grill.
