>unironically thinking Westeros stands a chance
LOL
O
L
that green fire stuff.
there. done.
>>71620164
*teleports behind the green fire*
Pssh... what now kid?
>>71620064
wild fire gonna btfo some of them
winter has come and there wont be any food or warmth for the shitskins
and the dragons gonna get lazy since i assume they're cold blooded
>>71620164
Didn't Cersei waste it all?
>>71620485
nope only the cache under the mosque
>>71620064
Dany will be BTFO when Euron [spoilers]attacks her fleet during a storm when her dragons and dothraki and unsullied are useless[spoilers]
>>71620064
At first, the 2 armies will rally together to fight against the Zombies.
(that should entertain an entier season...)
...Then the armies will fight each-other... Then the cycle would restart.
during the siege when stannis attacked kings landing varys did fuck all and basically said yeah im useless glhf tyrion
grey worm is a young boy if you measure in military years
kellyc is literally retarded and just wants to burn people alive and make them lick her feet (hopefully)
tyrion is a meme dwarf that is half as smart as he thinks he is and got completely outplayed by the slavers, then saved by dragons, completely outplayed by stannis, then saved by his father
yes they have a large number of soldiers and dragons, but those soldiers are sandniggers in rags or leather. westeros still has davos, jon, euron, who is a lot smarter than he's letting people believe, cersei, jaime, both of whom are a lot smarter and ruthless than people give them credit for and the fucking NIGHT KING
danny might btfo cersei, she might even take back the north but she is not aegon. far from it
>>71620483
Literally creatures made of magic, but I guess we still need to consider a realistic metabolic cycle
Will Dany be greeted as liberators?
>>71620844
hilarious if in desperation for food her dragons devour parts of her army
>>71620835
DUDE RACISM LMAO
>>71620844
>>71620855
>>71620866
checked
>>71620872
>>71620835
so close though
>>71620835
iirc aegon started with an army of 1600 men and went around beating the shit out of a limited number of people with dragons and making strategic alliances with everyone else and managed to take the whole continent in like a decade.
Of course Dany might fuck it up given she's incompetent.
>>71620866
>Green-Fire.
>Dragons.
They are both powerfull and unstable weapons.
>>71620866
Actually that would be a great way to stop her being so OP, I retract my previous statement
More than likely all those Dothraki are going to become a problem unto themselves, as well as the Ironborn. How do you take people who have lived generations built on killing, raping and pillaging, and put them under a woman and tell them all "Nah, you can't do it anymore cos we gotta be nice and shit." Fuck that. They're gonna rape, they're gonna pillage, and Dany's gonna have a popular xenophobic uprising on her hands.
Unless of course, "Strenght respekk strenght" and they write it off as a plot device.
>>71620527
The Unsullied are always useless
>>71621118
Yeah but Dany is horsefucker Jesus now
Kraken takes down one dragon.
The Night King takes down one dragon.
You just throw armored knights against Dothraki and they're done for.
You just throw armored knights against Unsullied and they're done for.
Of course this is fantasy and somehow armored knights will lose to Dothraki and Unsullied lol
>>71621366
Bran worgs into the last dragon and reks dany's """""army"""""""
>>71620835
Someone hasn't read their Machiavelli. Tyrion did his best with what he could and he made all the right political moves but then got fucked by Fortune in both situations you mentioned.
>>71620527
Dont forget he'll summon a Kraken who destroys ships and eats one of the dragons.
>>71620527
>>71621528
>thinking the writers would ignore the dragonhorn
>thinking the writers would forgot anything to do with the dragons because epic and the views will like that
he will randomly yell for his men to pull up the dragon horn and another character we know will be like "the what?!" and euron will explain its going to turn the battle and how he got it from his travel and use it, blow out dany cause her to flee and for defeating dany etc cersei will marry him
>>71620064
>7th season
>first episode
>big storm
>the whole army drowns
>dragons get hit by lightning
>the khaleesi arc was a filler
>>71622039
Well done D&D. Well done
>>71621500
>Fortune
>Implying the slavers weren't planning that the whole fucking time
Gray Worm and Missandei literally said "no, don't do that, they'll still fucking backstab you." Tyrion is way less cunning than he thinks he is. Listening to the people who actually know these people is doing the best with what he has, not coming up with some smug little pact that'll make him look like hot shit to the person he ran to the last time one of his smug little plots shat the bed.
>>71620064
>implying Euron won't come up with some storm bullshit to sink half of Dany's fleet
>implying Cercei won't pull some wildfire shinanigans
Come on, it's like you haven't been watching for 6 seasons. Stannis was all set to BTFO King's Landing and look what happened.
>>71622399
>I am the storm
Epic D&D, just epic
show is actual garbage now. why is anyone still watching?
>tfw Hitler invading Russia
>tfw Napoleon invading Russia
>tfw Kelly C doing the same shit but with Westeros
It's like autism is universal.
>>71622425
To keep the Drogon actor employed
>>71622425
it's fun just like capeshit
>>71620483
>cold blooded
they breathe fire you idiot
>>71620064
Bitch please.
Qyburn gonna build an army of undead dragons using those bones in the basement.
>>71622039
I wouldn't even be mad. The shitstorm that will follow will be priceless.
>>71622523
chemical reaction mate
like the jihadi-beatle
>>71622578
no
magic senpai
>>71620064
they just have to pray the rosary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lepanto
> The Ottoman galleys were manned by 13,000 experienced sailors—generally drawn from the maritime nations of the Ottoman Empire, namely Berbers, Greeks, Syrians, and Egyptians—and 34,000 soldiers. Ali Pasha, the Ottoman admiral (Kapudan-i Derya), supported by the corsairs Mehmed Siroco (natively Mehmed Şuluk) of Alexandria and Uluç Ali, commanded an Ottoman force of 222 war galleys, 56 galliots, and some smaller vessels. The Turks had skilled and experienced crews of sailors but were significantly deficient in their elite corps of Janissaries. The number of oarsmen was about 37,000, virtually all of them slaves.
> An advantage for the Christians was their numerical superiority in guns and cannon aboard their ships, as well as the superior quality of the Spanish infantry. It is estimated that the Christians had 1,815 guns, while the Turks had only 750 with insufficient ammunition.The Christians embarked with their much improved arquebusier and musketeer forces, while the Ottomans trusted in their greatly feared composite bowmen.
>>71622501
Holy fuck that guy is living the dream.
>>71620064
They are sailing during winter.
If that fleet hits a winter storm a lot of ships are going to the bottom of the sea.
D&D are going to fuck up everything to appease the SJWs. The fucking logistics of transporting 200k soldiers who speak different languages and have different cultures across a ocean and keeping them well supplied and fed during winter when most sources of food is in cities and castles is in storage. If you take the cities to fed your army then the civilians will die, so it's a lose lose situation. Dany's welfare system should not work in Westoros.
>>71622501
holy fucking kek
>>71621366
Aren't the Dothraki swords really good against armored knights? I could be wrong but I remember Jorah saying that these swords were either really good or really bad.
And Dothraki will probably get btfo just by the winter.
>>71622512
it used to be a lot better than that though.
i find it hard to enjoy what its become
>>71621500
i actually have
>>71622501
>watch Lawrence of Arabia as a child
>grow up dreaming of becoming an actor
>Mum & Dad fund my career and send me to drama school
>take an additional loan and get into Juilliard
>finally got chops for my acting career to begin
>get cast as the cgi dragon in a meme tv show
>>71622548
that would be unironically fucking epic
>>71622501
Damn that guy has a sweaty crotch.
>>71622708
Jorah completely wrecked that one Dothraki cunt because their meme swords can't do shit against plate armor
>>71620064
>unironically thinking it would ever be possible logistically to even feed that many men much less horses crossing a sea
>>71622708
Really bad. The curve means it doesn't pierce plate, since it just loops around the armor rather than applying pressure.
https://youtu.be/WRYM6B7CTs8?t=39s
Dothraki would get absolutely owned in the GoT universe where everyone is an armored knight. Of course, in real life, medieval armies were primarily made out of peasant levies without full metal protection.
>>71620164
That green fire stuff is only to be used against King's Landing's citizens.
>>71622599
>>71622694
>>71622726
>>71622753
it's bobby moynihan from SNL you retards. it was a sketch.
>>71622548
>mfw dany's dragons vs undead dragons vs ice dragons
shieeet
>>71620064
All that shit totals up to less than 20,000 fighting men. And that's being generous.
She'd get BTFO upon landing if not for her plot armor.
>>71620064
This scene was shot like shit. I didn't even notice the Dorne, Greyjoy, and Highgarden emblems until it was pointed out to me.
>>71621366
>You just throw armored knights against Dothraki and they're done for.
>You just throw armored knights against Unsullied and they're done for.
the knights of the vale that we seen in battle of the bastards could absolutely destroy them.
but the winter would logicallly end the dothraki before anything else. 100k lads with no shirts on who have spent their whole lives in the sun are gonna drop like flies in westeros, assuming some sort of plague doesnt get them first. like what happened to the native americans when they were introduced to europeans
then again, all sense of logic and faithfulness to the established realism of the setting is gone since series 6
>>71620064
>Sieges are difficult and costly.
>All Daenerys has ahead of her are sieges.
Her idiosyncratic saving grace being the three dragons, of course.
>>71621658
They'll ignore the dragonhorn cause they can't let their pet Danny lose.
>>71622501
>me on the right
>>71622821
ruined the dream
>those faggy little drakes
they have balistas in westeros, right?
>>71622996
THEY'RE WYVERNS!!!
>>71622821
This on the other hand really happened
>>71622896
Stannis came close to conquering King's Landing with a fraction of what Dany has.
>>71623080
>dany will never ride you like a bull
>>71622891
The narrow sea is small and travel from Westeros seems pretty common so I doubt plague will be an issue. Winter will be guaranteed ofcourse.
>>71622764
It's called the narrow sea for a reason you dip
The roman empire's army was multiple times as large as dany's force is now as well
>>71622863
The Tyrells have the second largest army in all of Westeros. Dorne has a pretty large army too.
>>71621658
implying theyre ever going to let dany lose a battle
> WE R STRANG WOMENZ
>>71623080
Now THIS is podracing!
>>71623156
>1k ships
>100-120k soldiers
>70-80k horse
>+crews
I don't give a good goddamn how narrow that fucking pond is, aside from the fact they're not sailing across the narrow sea.
There's no way danys army wouldn't starve.
>>71623200
yeah, but dornish soldiers are top tier in seven kingdoms as far as actual armies go.
>>71623216
Well, they gotta have one strong woman lose considering it's a fight between 2 queens.
>>71622788
oh sweet summer child, you think things like armor and weapon types matter at this point? we're past first few couple of season here, everything that happens happens in manner suitable for storytelling and dramatic effect.
>>71623289
You know Cersei will probably be betrayed by FILTHY PATRIARCHY represented by Jaime because D&D think that's deep and engaging. So she won't have technically lost.
>>71620483
Were that the case, the two locked under the pyramid would be dead by now.
>>71622039
More like
>Euron shows up with 2 ships
>Asha laughs at him
>Euron uses dragon binder
>Asha's fleet burns
>gg scrubs get good
>Asha kills Dany
>>71620164
>cersei baths dany in green fire
"no fire can burn me"
>kingslanding is in danys hand without one casualty
>>71622501
>>71620835
lmao who cares? dany will win because we say so
>>71623414
why dead though if they were feed enough they've could have slowed down their metabolism like hybernation
but it still wouldn't make sense since they would be too slow and lazy since they would have needed to warm up
But lets be honest she will just get to Kings Landing with no issue and wreck shop with ease.
>>71622788
That must be the first time I've seen armor being useful in a TV show (or a movie).
>>71622039
MAKE IT HAPPEN D&D
>>71620941
>nuclear war metafor
>>71622501
>>71623437
>>71622039
>season 7
>Euron BTFO Dany and Yara
>Jaime kills Cercei
>Jon and Tormund wreck Salsa and Brienne
>Ellaria and the sand sneks drown off-screen
>Euron, Bran and Jon save the 7 kingdoms
>the stronk womyn angle was a prank by D&D
>mfw
>>71622788
what happened jorah's armor? or sandor's? the way people on that show treat armor you'd swear they just handed out platemail before a fucking bar fight. you dont just throw away a suit of plate mail, especially not one as detailed as the hound's.
from metmuseum.org
"It is clear, however, that the value of armor ranged from low-quality or outdated second-hand items quite affordable to citizens and mercenaries, to the cost of an entire armory of an English knight, the contents of which were valued in 1374 at over £16. This was equivalent to about five to eight years of rent for a London merchant’s house, or over three years’ worth of wages for a skilled laborer, a single helmet (a bascinet, probably with aventail) being worth the purchase price of a cow."
you can imagine the value of the hound's full suit or armor and his sword was a lifetime's wages or more to the average peasant in GoT. and he just lost it, never mentioned again
stupid fucking show
>>71620064
it makes me sad that peopl watch this terrible, cheap, poorly written turd. it's popularity is going to affect the future of hbos programming which was already fucking grim.
>implying they aren't gonna get btfo by divine winds
ggrwurm likes using stuff from history I won't be surprised if this happens
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasions_of_Japan
this is how dany will get btfo
>she attacks kings landing
>theon/yara attack kings landing from the blackwater
>unsullied and dothraki attack from land
>dragons attack from air
>it's all going very well and dany breaks through the gates and starts fucking shit up
>then euron shows up at and starts wrecking theon and yara's ships
>cersei goes full mad queen
>she orders the mountain to BURN THEM ALL
>jaime kills cersei
>jaime tries to kill the mountain but fails
>jaime dies as the mountain lights the wildfire on fire
>kings landing is obliterated
>dany's army is completely fucked
>euron fucks theon and yara's ships up even more but they escape
>the only thing dany has left are her dragons
>>71620064
dothraki cucks thinking they survive winter
>>71622501
>>71623790
dothraki and unsullied aren't making it to the white walker battle. that's just not happening
>>71623762
This. Euron's going to fuck the whole fleet up with some kind of magic or wind-horn, finally establishing him as an actual threat without needing to put money towards a big sea-battle.
>>71623813
GRRM has said the ending is bittersweet. My suspicion is that there won't even be a war on the wall. The wall will come down when bran crosses it with the mark, and Jon being Azor Ahai the diplomat will forge a tenuous peace with the wights. It won't be a war that saves them.
>>71623767
>euron fucks theon
>>71623814
Euron is the first storm and the last. Wouldn't surprise me if he also brings Dragon Binder with him for extra lulz.
>>71623767
>implying Dany's dragons won't be the ones setting fire to buildings and ultimately setting off the wildfire caches as the fire spreads, with one dragon(probably one spewing fire right over the wildfire cache) getting engulfed in a green explosion and either killed or severely wounded
It's the ultimate irony to have her destroy the city when she's finally conquered it.
>>71623841
that's the very end of the series, there's most likely still going to be a gigantic white walker vs human battle at some point. the humans will probably lose though.
>>71620501
implying there's more, wildfire doesn't come out a tap you know
>>71622501
reddit and 4chan side by side
All these theorys and predictions make me sad because I just know the real thing will be underwhelming and generic.
>>71623841
>GRRM has said the ending is bittersweet.
Didn't he also say a major plot twist is happening in the books, that won't be featured in the show?
I think it's fairly safe to say the show's direction will be pretty different. Dany will probably sit on the throne with Jon as the warden/king of the North. Remember, there's only 13 episodes left, which will most likely be spent building up Cersei, Euron and the WW as the final bads of the series without any real twists in sight.
>>71623868
that's very possible as well, but i think cersei going full mad queen and the whole jaime having to save the city and dying in the process is more poignant and is more likely what the show will do instead of dany accidentally fucking herself.
that will probably happen to dany in the books though, she will fuck it up herself
>>71623841
>>71623873
The ending will be bittersweet because nearly everyone's dead, but the Others are finally vanquished in full, meaning the end to wonky seasons and decades-long winters that keep killing everyone, ultimately giving the land a chance of growing beyond their stagnated technological position.
A Promise of Spring.
>>71623908
there's more
only burned a max of 2 of the 5+ stashes
also
>implying Qyburn hasn't learned the recipe somehow
>>71623767
Don't know about the other stuff but I feel jaimie will definitely have to kill cersei in the same way he did the mad king, would be a good completion of his arc
>>71623908
its d&d wildfire comes from wherever they want it too
>>71623948
there's caches under the red keep, and all over the city. as far as i know no one has removed much if any of those caches.
>>71623933
Cersei can still go Mad Queen. Jaime will just succeed in stopping her, just as he stopped the Mad King. But then Dany fucks everything over anyway, and Jaime is stuck knowing that he killed his queen, sister and the only woman he's ever loved for no good.
>>71620064
Literally all problems in the show would be fixed if those ships crashed into some rocks with no survivors.
>>71623948
Qyburn doesn't need to learnt the recipe. They've got alchemists to whip it up for them. It's just dangerous work so it takes a bit of time to do it safely.
>>71623984
>implying they're going to have Dany make any mistakes
I don't think so. The SJW backlash would put HBO in a coma.
>>71623984
it wouldn't make much sense for jaime to kill cersei and 'save the city again' only for dany to then accidentally light the wildfire on fire and fuck everything up. that would be slapstick-tier comedy bad
i wouldn't put it past D&D to do that though.
kings landing is getting destroyed though, we saw it in the season 2 dany vision finale
>>71623841
Yeah I feel like benjen knows the wall will come down by bran crossing, he was acting really strange
>>71623984
Doesn't Tyrion know about the wildfire though? I mean he used it before and if Jaime told anyone about the wildfire it would have been Tyrion.
We've been waiting literal years for Bran's meandering plot line to become relevant. The bare minimum is he wargs at least one dragon and seriously fucks something up. Best case scenario he singlehandedly neutralizes all three and then the northerners have to beat an army 10 times their size, a boast they've made more than once.
>>71623976
i'm not 100% sure on how the rest of the battle with play out, but i am absolutely 100% sure that is how jaime will kill cersei. that is the only way jaime killing cersei would make any thematic sense for both of their characters and end their arcs
jaime kills cersei to save kings landing once again, just like how he has done before, but he fails, dying a tragic hero of sorts
and it fulfills cersei's prophecy
it just all fits very nicely
>>71624087
Tyrion knows there's wildfire under the city, but like everyone else that wasn't Arys II or the Pyromancers (who jaime stupidly killed) no one is sure where exactly it is all buried. The mad king buried enough of it to wipe out the entire city. I assume that's a fuckton of wildfire. Of course he probably did it because the three eyed raven was whispering to him.
>>71624021
>that would be slapstick-tier comedy bad
No, it'd be typical tragedy stuff.
>>71624087
In the show he definitely knows, I don't remember how it is in the books because "where do whore's go" blotting everything out. Doesn't mean Dany or one of her dragons can't fuck up, though.
>>71624100
Bran's plot will become relevant when he crosses the wall while he's marked, giving the Others the same access he gave them at the cave.
>>71624087
i think varys tells him at some point in the books, i vaguely remember in one of the scenes when tyrion is going through the underground tunnels with varys that he mentions they stumble upon wildfire occasionally. i don't think he knows in the show.
>>71623999
no it wouldn't because the zombies would still be coming
>>71623935
I like this idea. Why do you think there's a link between the Others and the weird Seasons? Is it stated somewhere or it's a theory?
>>71624268
they made it a point in the show to show that the others were the cause of winter. when the children were making the others they did it in that spiral tree thing and it was all green, then they cut back to the present and show that it is completely covered in ice and snow now
>>71623696
Now I want to see an episode detailing the shenanigans a regular Westeros peasant would have to go through while trying to sell the Hound's suit of armor
>>71624294
Hm, you're right about that. Well that would indeed give the bittersweet ending that Martin talks about. Sounds good to me.
If you have a huge army but don't have the logistics to supply them, they're more a liability than anything. How the fuck is she feeding her Dothraki army? They're clearly going to resort to raiding and plundering
>>71624268
Just a theory, but I think it's a strong one. There's no way the first men could have built the fist of the first men north of the wall if it was as cold when they first spread across Westeros, they'd have trouble surviving at all if you had decade-long winters every so often before they'd have time to establish strong farming and storage facilities, and the Others being ice-elves and bringing snow-storms with them make it seem obvious that they're connected to the winter fuckery. So the obvious deduction is that the first men could spread much more easily across Westeros because the seasons were regular ones, and then the Children created the Others and the seasons got thrown all out of whack as the Others gained in power and rebelled. Perhaps the Children being killed off also had a part, if they're connected with summer in some way. I don't really believe that, though.
>>71624403
>he thinks men built the wall
it's made out of ice, it is 800 feet tall, and it has magical spells in it
the children and the other's built it
>>71624426
>the others built a wall to prevent themselves from crossing over the wall
It doesn't even fucking matter if dany somehow gets btfo'd. Which she might anyways because she's useless at leading, strategy, or tactics.
But she's such a stupid fucking mary sue now that no matter what she'll never truly fall.
I was fucking livid at any scene she was in during season 6. It actually felt like she read the script beforehand and was acting like she already knew all the bullshit that was going to happen. everything she did was a complete leap of faith or a massive gamble with her life and she came out unscathed every time without even a second of suspense
Season 6 outside of GRRM's machinations (what little is left) was an abortion
Yes I'm fucking mad
>>71624445
they built it to keep humans out of their territory and the children put spells in it to keep the others from crossing it once they lost the war
>>71622039
That's what I expect as well
>>71623080
Holy shit, wasn't expecting that last part.
I'm fucking dying over here.
>>71623767
So basically wildfire is the most obvious Deus Ex Machina in all of media. It's pretty much just a "stop thing from happening" device.
Are they setting Dany up to be the hero or the villain? Getting mixed vibes here.
>>71624426
I didn't say anything about the wall. I was talking about the fist of the first men. The ancient hillfort the Night's Watch was attacked at.
The wall was obviously built AFTER the Others had been pushed back the first time. They even describe how each generation of the Night's Watch had built upon the wall by simple pouring water on it and letting it freeze.
>>71624697
Villain, but she won't make it to westeros with Euron controlling Dragon Binder.
>>71624722
you can't believe any of the ancient lore in the series, no one knows what happened they're just stories
>>71622489
>>71620835
Who the duck is kellyc
>>71624020
Yeha like when they killed Ros. I remember you guys saying the same thing. It's as if the tumblrites you fear so much are actually just the vocal minority because you actively look for people going "uh nuh muh stronk womyn died". It's honestly embarrassing that you've created this reality for yourself in which whiny SJW are the majority.
>>71623486
>Dany survives the fire
>whole army gets burnt to a crisp
>>71622226
>However
>>71624754
The Night's Watch have current ways of managing the wall, though. If there's one thing you can trust, it's that they've enlarged it over time. Otherwise they wouldn't have protocols for how to do it, and having a whole section who just work as stone-breakers to continually have gravel to put on top of the wall. They'd have just paved the fucking thing if it wasn't slowly growing with each season adding a new layer of ice.
What is obviously going to happen is white walkers vs a united Westeros Dany+Jon with Dragons.
How is this not abundantly clear to everyone
>>71624858
they could have enlarged it, sure, but they didn't originally build it.
the thing has weirwood trees at the base of it (night fort passage). the children and others probably built it first to keep the humans out. the children's source of magic comes from weirwoods.
>>71624944
There's an existing fan theory that the nightfort is under posession by a greenseer. That's why weird shit is always happening at the nightfort and why they build deep lake.
>>71623251
kek
>>71624944
>When someone approaches the Black Gate, the eyes open. They are white and blind, and then the door asks, "Who are you?" A man of the Night's Watch must repeat a part of his vow, "I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers. I am the shield that guards the realms of men." The door will open then, saying, "Then pass." The door's lips open wider and wider still until nothing remains but a great gaping mouth in a ring of wrinkles.
>>71623488
pretty impressive
>>71624944
> the children and others probably built it first to keep the humans out.
Fuck no. The Others obviously turned on the Children. The Children made the Others be really easy to kill with dragonglass, the weapons they used. But the Others learnt to raise the dead and rose up against the Children as well. Then, just like the stories say, the men and the Children brokered a peace because they couldn't survive otherwise. They managed to fight off the Others, and the children helped the men build the wall, with the children supplying the magic seal. It was in no way to keep the humans out, but to keep the Others contained. The Children and the men signed a peace-treaty and as war reparations the Children paid the Night's Watch, or its ancient version, a yearly supply of dragonglass, to make sure the Children couldn't use the Others against them again.
Then the Andals came along and fucked everything up with their religious fervour, cutting down weirwood trees and ruining the relationship with the Children, and writing down their own versions of what had happened, so that the heathen Children wouldn't get any accolades for having helped build the great castles and the wall. Maybe.
>>71625074
the pact was for the children vs human war, not the long night. the long night happened like thousands of years after the pact
>>71624127
Varys probably knows. Because why not.
>Jaime dying
Please, he is Azor Ahai reborn
>episode 1
>dany and the fleet have been lost for a week without supllies and the dragons have wandered off
>each episode hypes up how theyre going to survive and win
>danny and the crew drink saltwater
>they die
>>71624771
Say "Kelly c" out loud a few times.
>>71625202
>Because why not.
If anyone should know it would be Varys. He worked for the mad king and was all about information.
the pact was broken homie
they took the deep woods too, fucking filthy first men invaders
>>71625323
Godamnit
>>71621118
She didn't mention rape but when she has her pointless flying on the dragon speech she cheers them to kill them and destroy their homes, so she pretty much went "yay everyone let's go rape and plunder!"
>>71625323
Oh for fucks sake
how many episodes before dany actually steps foot on westeros?
me? 10
>>71625465
She doesn't. Euron uses dragon binder to fuck up her fleet, when she goes to renegotiate a fleet with him asha kills her. Her trope is the almost queen. she's never going to succeed.
>>71622788
Nice demonstration of why you should wear a helmet.
All hail His Grace, Stannis of House Baratheon, First of His Name, King of the Sandals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, Lord of Light, and Protector of the Realm.
>>71625519
>implying a helmet would save you from a proper swing like that
Dude didn't die from having his cheek cut. It was the blunt force being transferred to his head.
>>71625599
>>71625323
kek
>>71622425
>show is at its peak
>show is actual garbage now
Why do people on this website try so fucking hard to have an unpopular opinion?
>>71620064
>dany's army will rape burn and pillage whats left of westoros AND be greeted like a hero for it. This show is bullshit if Tyrion doesn't kill he for being mad.
>>71625611
I wasn't referring to the butt naked guy, but the guy in full plate who manages to actually get hit in the face.
>>71620064
>sailing without any kind of formation
>cannot change the course without local smash-up
>perfect target for well trained fleet.
>>71626252
Nah man believe me Euron signed a alliance with the secret underwater Mermaid empire that fleet is dead
trust me I know
KRAKEN
WHEN
>>71626321
I know
>>71626389
Straight from source
>>71622788
> Dothraki would get absolutely owned in the GoT universe where everyone is an armored knight.
The Dothraki’s value comes from their speed and mobility as horse archers and while they couldn’t stand up to a Westerosi knight in a one-on-one fight, (being unarmored) they would prevent the Westerosi forces from deploying any kinda reconnaissance units (leaving them blind) while continually tearing up their logistics train, so that when they arrived on the battlefield, they’d already be bloodied and battered only to face clouds of arrows further disrupting their lines right up until Daenery’s Westerosi-type mercenary cavalry and Unsullied heavy infantry hit them.
>>71623080
Why air dont throw away this bitch from dragon back?
>>71623908
They have been producing it for a long time also the stash that Cersei burned was there from the Mad king era.
>>71626621
1) Dothraki are early Antiquity tier of nomads (according to their armor and weapon it's not even scythians level).
2) They don't have bows they using only spears and swords,
>>71624740
>book Euron
This one will wave his cock and make jokes.
>>71624403
> they'd have trouble surviving at all if you had decade-long winters every so often
I think GRRM has quietly dropped this idea, after belatedly realizing that humans (or anything else) wouldn’t be able to survive on a planet (at least in the northern latitudes) with winters that last for _years_ on end.
>>71624774
>It's honestly embarrassing that you've created this reality for yourself in which whiny SJW are the majority.
At the end of S05, we had Tumblerinas all over the Internet breaking down in tears and swearing to cancel HBO because Sansa got raped and we can all see the result of that; S06 was all grrl powah! all the time, with EVERY male character either a bumbling dumbass or a mustache twirling bad guy (who got his comeuppance).
HBO's only concern is insuring that soccer moms keep paying the cable bill.
>>71625323
Holy shit i've wondering why the fuck you faggots call her kellyc for years and i finally got it.
>>71626975
What gives you that idea? He even made a point of the castles having huge grain storages way bigger than anything regular castles had, with the long summers being spent hoarding grain and shit, and everyone expecting people to die off of starvation towards the end of winter even despite that.
And it's not the whole world that goes into absolute winter, anyway. And the southern parts of Westeros wouldn't be hit as hard. It's mostly just the North that gets absolutely fucked.
>>71623908
In the books the pyromancers have actively been continuing to produce it without stop
>>71620483
Snow nigger!
>>71624471
Why dont you shut your fucking yap and never post in got again then. Fuck you are not needed
>>71626975
>I think GRRM has quietly dropped this idea
Er, it's a major plot point in the books, what makes you think he dropped it?
>>71626779
> 1) Dothraki are early Antiquity tier of nomads (according to their armor and weapon it's not even scythians level).
No, the Dothraki use steel weapons like everybody else on Planetos (except maybe the savages of Sothoryos).
> 2) They don't have bows they using only spears and swords,
Nonsense, while GRRM’s knowledge of military history and tech is pretty slim, we have direct reference of Dothraki bows via mention of Carl Drogo’s dragon bone bow (that's handed down to one of Daenerys' blood riders) and it’s obvious that the Dothraki are a fantasy amalgamation of Mongols and American Plains Indians.
The Dothraki simply couldn’t be the threat they are if they weren’t horse archers.
>>71620064
>unironically watching GOT
L O L
O
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>>71625376
>>71625687
>>71625687
>>71627129
holy shit is it new in here today
>>71627900
Like i said, i've been on /tv/ for years, i'm just dumb.
>>71627802
> > I think GRRM has quietly dropped this idea
> Er, it's a major plot point in the books, what makes you think he dropped it?
It’s a background plot point and it’s stupid.
Even modern day humans with all our tech would have a very hard time surviving on Planetos if it were subject to winters lasting multiple years and there is no way in hell a quasi-medieval people could do so. Humans (and everything else) would have gone extinct a long time ago.
And before you mention “glass gardens”, even if the entirety of Winterfell was one huge geothermal powered greenhouse, it would only barely provide enough food the Stark family and their immediate retainers.
And how the fuck do the deer, rabbits and other wildlife survive? Exactly…
>>71628069
What is the Ice Age?
>>71620164
just wait until something happens right before the battle that prevents them from using that shit
And we will have successfully had a dues ex machina save the invaders from a dues ex machina
>people love this show
>>71628123
>What is the Ice Age?
The snow and ice didn’t retreat every few years only to return again, people and animals living south of the ice sheets.
>>71626621
>speed and mobility as horse archers
Isn't the south full of trees and hill and other obstructions?
>>71628069
>And how the fuck do the deer, rabbits and other wildlife survive?
By going south where the winter is less harsh, like lots of animals do? Dorne has deserts and shit, the winters are obviously less harsh the further south you get, except for when the Others go marching south. Not to mention that they've got decades-long summers to stock up on food during, with more arable land than they could make use of because of the continent being so fuckhuge.
And it's definitely not a background plot. The whole society's structure is based on that shit, and the final showdown with the Others that the story is building up towards is linked to it. It's not something you can just ditch.
>>71628239
> > speed and mobility as horse archers
> Isn't the south full of trees and hill and other obstructions?
While there are plenty of forests in Westeros, (and Essos) there is also plenty of open farmland.
And trees didn’t stop the Mongols here on Earth.
I can't wait for D&D to ruin the series even further
Did anybody see the making off of the two last seasons?
They are George Lucas tier, pretty embarrasing
>>71628360
>>And how the fuck do the deer, rabbits and other wildlife survive?
>By going south where the winter is less harsh, like lots of animals do?
Rabbits don't migrate...
>>71626684
Her pubic hairs are velcroing with her Dragon's scails.
>>71628416
Because they don't need to. If we lived in a world where winters required them to migrate because they lasted too long, they'd start migrating to survive or adapt to be able to survive on the little vegetation that'd stay around during winter(with the vegetation itself adapting to better handle long periods of winter).
Or do you think they just stayed put during the ice ages?
You might as well complain about direwolves still being around when they were extinct long ago in RL.
>>71628069
Except it's all explained in the books. The southern kingdoms helps the northern kingdoms with food and trading is still being done with the free cities. Every house also stockpiles food during the summer years. The entire world isn't covered in ice and snow, only the northern and middle parts are. There's a saying in A dance with dragons that goes something like "Summer is the time for squabbles. In winter, we must protect one another, keep each other warm, share our strengths"
>And how the fuck do the deer, rabbits and other wildlife survive?
If only we had a real life counterpart to year long winters to get our facts from... oh wait!
THEY ARE KILLING EVERYONE!!!
>>71628360
>they've got decades-long summers to stock up on food
How the fuck do medieval people preserve turnips for decades?
Even if anybody did somehow manage to survive, they’d all be toothless from scurvy.
>>71628069
>2 deers frozen while fucking.jpg
>>71628488
>they'd start migrating
Sorry, I forgot it was summer and all the kids are home from school...
>>71628597
Pickling
>mfw dany fans crying when she gets BTFO
>>71620930
the Conquest took about 2 years. he basically swept in with dragons, spread them out between his commanders and broke several kingdoms fast, either conquering them or causing rebellions in them that crippled their ability to respond (conquering them later). none of them ever really got a chance to go at them with their full strength, they were so shocked by the dragons, and each defeat swelled Aegon's army.
he just subjugated them with a few key displays of power. if they had been ready, they could've maybe killed a dragon or two and fought back. Dorne was able to resist.
so lads what if
what if
like what if guise
what if dany just cover herself in oil and run into kings landing with 10 suicidal men and blow it up with wildfire
she'll survive so it shouldn't be too hard right
even if somebody catches her she'll just detonate it or something
>>71628538
>The entire world isn't covered in ice and snow, only the northern and middle parts are.
We have mention of the snow at Castle Black and Winterfell _already_ so deep that channels have to be shoveled thru it just so people can walk around.
How the fuck are humans (let alone wildlife) going to survive multiple years_ of that?
>>71628597
They're not medieval in all parts. Winterfell has greenhouses heated by underground hotsprings and shit. They've clearly focused a lot of attention towards building storage facilities and maximising food production and preservation for the level of society they're at.
They preserve grains and salted meat in large quantities, and then there's pickling. Then they trade with the non-ice-covered cities to supplement things. But due to snow-storms and the non-snow-covered places not always having enough food for themselves that's not entirely efficient and old, young and weak always die off every winter.
>>71628669
Animals can't adapt to survive a changing climate or circumstances? I guess evolution doesn't exist. The animals you see in Westeros are analogies to ones in our world. They're not the same. Just as the cultures are analogies and not the same.
>>71628597
I don't know where you fags got this decades crap from. The longest season in the books was 13 years and that was especially rare. The books takes place during/after a 9 year summer and it's also refered to as rare and long. Most seasons lasts 3-5 years.
Decades my ass, you guys are morons.
>>71628745
They don't. They die off in great numbers. But enough survive to replenish the numbers when a decade-long summer of frolicking runs around.
>>71620164
Cersei used the entirety of the green fire on Kings Landing.
>>71628809
>Most seasons lasts 3-5 years.
Even a winter that lasted _one_ year, would result in the all the wildlife dying off.
Now if this were a sci-fi setting with weird sci-fi animals that had evolved on a planet subjected to multi years long winters, I could maybe accept it but we're talking about average everyday deer and rabbits just like we've got here on Earth.
It's simply impossible for animals and quasi-medieval humans to survive those kinda conditions.
>>71628745
>How the fuck are humans (let alone wildlife) going to survive multiple years_ of that?
By staying inside, eating, burning and drinking everything they've hoarded for the last years.
There are plenty of plants in that picture you posted that wildlife can eat of as well. The animals also band together by the way. "When winter comes the lone wolf dies, but the pack remains." They're sharing their warm and strenghts. No one said that the winter isn't harsh but it sure isn't impossible.
You forget that wildlife survived a harsher, longer winter during the ice age than what's in the books.
>>71628972
>You forget that wildlife survived a harsher, longer winter during the ice age than what's in the books.
Alright, I'm done with you morons.
Euron will obviously be the villain next season and he will use the dragonhorn. this show is predictable as fuck now.
>>71622788
>The curve means it doesn't pierce plate
No sword can actually pierce plate. You are supposed to aim at weak spots.
But yeah, their swords would be crap vs armor.
>>71628926
>Even a winter that lasted _one_ year, would result in the all the wildlife dying off.
No. We have had long winters in real life and the wildlife is still here. Stop sharing your ignorance as facts.
>It's simply impossible for animals and quasi-medieval humans to survive those kinda conditions.
"I can't think of a way therefor it is impossible" sounds more like your way of reasoning. But please, if you have anything of substenance to base those opinion of yours on then share them already. If all you're gonna do is spout ignorant statements void of facts then just gtfo and make better use of your time.
>>71629028
A picture of a deer that died during winter and froze. Truly a perfect counter-argument.
>>71620835
>make them lick her feet (hopefully)
REEEE is there a picture of her feet like there is Cerseis? Pls say yes
>>71629124
Don't bother with him. He hasn't posted a single argument to back up his claims this entire thread, yet he throws insults whenever he gets proven wrong. Just another stereotypic wannabe.
>>71627840
>No, the Dothraki use steel weapons like everybody else on Planetos (except maybe the savages of Sothoryos).
Iron weapons, not steel.
> we have direct reference of Dothraki bows via mention of Carl Drogo’s dragon bone bow (that's handed down to one of Daenerys' blood riders) and it’s obvious that the Dothraki are a fantasy amalgamation of Mongols and American Plains Indians.
1) Bone bows useless even against leather armor.
2) There is no single references to mongols, who actually were capable to fight against knights and medival infantry.
>>71621366
>You just throw armored knights against Dothraki and they're done for.
Retards ITT don't know cavalry tactics.
Unless these knights have long spears and formations in anticipation for a cavalry charge, then these knights are no match for Dothraki on the open field.
>>71628362
But mongols have the good horses, equipment, a lot of chinesse engineers and god-tier warlords.
>>71629028
I wouldn't call other people morons if I were you. Didn't you claim that a 1 year long winter will kill 100% of all wildlife? How much of a shut-in are you, really?
>>71629261
Dothraki is unprepared for fight against medival weapon, theyr first open meeting with Westeros knights will ends, like picrelated (of dothraki will be lucky enogh).
>>71629261
Are you serious?
We know that Westerosi use shielded pikemen formations from the Battle of the Bastards and we also know that Westerosi heavy cavalry is standard from BotB and Stannis north of the wall.
If the Dothraki were bowman skirmishers I would agree but they are just a shittier version of mounted knights in armour. I don't get why so much creedence is lent to them in Westeros. Heavy cavalry destroys light cavalry easily if the light cavalry uses heavy cavalry tactics.
>>71627136
Why the fuck would anyone choose to live in the north?
>>71629255
> > No, the Dothraki use steel weapons like everybody else on Planetos
> Iron weapons, not steel.
Iron or steel, the point is the Dothraki aren’t using bronze weapons.
> > we have direct reference of Dothraki bows via mention of Carl Drogo’s dragon bone bow
> 1) Bone bows useless even against leather armor.
“The Longbow Vs Cuir Bouilli (Boiled Leather) - Video 22”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDvTXprbAO4
> > it’s obvious that the Dothraki are a fantasy amalgamation of Mongols and American Plains Indians.
> 2) There is no single references to mongols, who actually were capable to fight against knights and medival infantry.
Of course there is no reference to Mongols, it’s a fantasy story set on another planet but it’s obvious that the Dothraki are a fantasy analog for Mongols / American Indians.
>>71625957
DABID PLS QUALITY
>>71629519
> citing Dumb & Dumber as a reference for anything...
>>71620064
Who gives a shit when Cleganebowl literally CONFIRMED
>>71620483
>implying the jews wont let the shitskins win to condition the world for their takeover
>>71628721
dorne didn't resist shit. they bent the knee without fighting and aegon let them keep the kingdom because there's no need to conquer the land if the nobility surrenders.
Believe me folks notPoland will arrive and strike down foreign invaders
>>71629349
>pic related
Lol I hope you realize crusading knights got completely BTFO by a nomadic force.
I watched this whole show and still don't understand how Dany amassed this much power
>>71631185
They got buttfucked by some south slavs in the mountains.
>>71631185
Dothraki don't seem to be disciplined and tactically organised horse archers.
>>71620064
>>71620064
euron has a horn that enslaved and place it's victims as his thrallls.
So you'd have to be implying th reavers, dothraki, unsullied will make it past oldtown and her campaign won't be forced elsewhere seeking the support of others.
>>71631185
Crusader leadership was mostly shit. The first crusade was only successful because of Bohemond and Tancred.
>>71631247
by being a loli (in the books)
it would be better if she was a loli in the show too
>>71628225
Kek fuck Canada
>>71631457
>support of others
>Dany changes the evil way of ex-white men - The Others/White Walkers, becaus she is the saviour of Planetos
>they bend the knee and become the Blue Walkers, forsaking they old ways
>Blue Men of The Great Queen Daenerys crush patriarchy and the last white men of Westeros
>Valar Morghulis
>And who are you...
